Earth gives off a relentless hum of countless notes completely imperceptible to the human ear, like a giant, exceptionally quiet symphony, but the origin of this sound remains a mystery.

Now unexpected powerful tunes have been discovered in this hum. These new findings could shed light on the source of this enigma.

http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/080416-earth-hum.html


With the hollow arena amplifying sound and the civilisation there creating it. Surely conclusive proof?

Many believe that this noise actually comes from either the oceans while churning or a rolling atmosphere. I read on this hoping to find a new theory connecting it to the earths natural electromagnetic field. This is not the first time that scientists have played with these enigmas. There have been many scientists in the past that have already puzzled at these sounds and concluded that it was indeed electromagnetic in nature.

Ummm, doesn't sound conclusive to me.

Do you have a model which would explain how a civilisation living on the inside of a hollow Earth could be creating these types of sounds, and data explaining why this is a better explanation than an oceanic or atmospheric source? Or are you thinking more along the lines of "anything unexplained must come from the hollow Earth civilisation, which I have previously decided does exist'?

Words like 'mystery' or 'unexplained' in a news article reporting scientific work do not give complete carte blanche to go out and make the 'mystery' fit one's pet theory.

Heh heh. 'Round here is does. But then again, 'round here, actually knowing what you're talking about isn't strictly necessary for "scientific" or "historical" thinking, either.

--Jaylemurph

I believe Pythagoras addressed this phenomenon in his treatise 'Music of the Spheres' 500BC

Hi all....new here....Just want to say relative to just about any subject on this forum there is someone who claims that the "mysterious" or "unexplained" has been "explained" by science or by ones respective religions or beliefs....now I can respect everyones opinion, but what bothers me is when a skeptic of one form or another claims that something has been explained when indeed it has not....in fact...in regards to this thread for instance....the scientists investigating the "HUM" of the earth...."BELIEVE" it may be the ocean or atmosphere.....and they are still looking into it.


So...in conclusion....SCIENCE HAS NOT explained the strange unexplained myterious earth's hum....and until they do....it very well could be anything....EVEN a civilization inside a hollow earth.

indeed it could be anything. but then again the OP said it was "conclusive proof". which it certainly is not.
proof would be that a hollow earth has been found and is indeed emitting these noises. as that has not been proved it is a theory and not "conclusive proof".
i like to have an open mind about these kind of things but i've heard this "hollow earth" theory so many times and never has any form of proof been posted.
tbh, i'm getting quite bored of it.
that aside, the existance of a "hollow earth" just seems absolutly rediculous to me.

Well said thruthseeker68......and welcome to the forum........

That's funny, because it bothers me when some dopey believer (and I'm not suggesting, TS68, that you personally are one) insists that something that is simply and perfectly explained /isn't/ because it doesn't agree with their pet theory, or because they simply don't know what they're talking about.

Although, to anticipate the inevitable response from bee, there's no reason to rush to an answers and believe /anything/ about something for which there's no proof.



Well, it could be, in defiance of virtually all of our understanding of science. But it probably isn't. Just because something is /possible/ doesn't mean it's probable. Or even likely.

--Jaylemurph

Aheh, awesome post.



It could be Coca-cola's sekret bottling facility!

It could be due to tectonic shifts or magma displacemant

I've seen some interesting material regarding the hollow earth theory, but I can't say I've seen enough to say there's such a thing or not. And even if the earth is hollow, that doesnt mean there's anything interesting there. Though it could be of course, havn't been there so don't know =)

I hate to rain on your parades, but 'gravity'.

I'm not a scientist but I dont think gravity would rule out any hollow earth. As far I even know, gravity itself still a mystery with several theories behind it. I'm not imagining an earth hollow as an egg though, but with perhaps a hollow core, meaning that most of the earth is solid, and only a small inner part would be hollow. I'm certainly not an expert in this field though nor have I really studied this much so for all I know that might be completely wrong =)

Please, we know that gravity is linked to mass, if the Earth wasn't solid we wouldn't be able to stand on it. In addition to that, if we didn't have a big core of iron, we wouldn't have a magnetic field, and if there wasn't a huge layer of molten rock we wouldn't have plate tectonics.

There's also the glaring problem of how a hollow planet could have formed naturally and if it did, how it didn't collapse before now.

Well, that's partly true; but these competing theories, and the corresponding scientific debates, are of a much higher order than using known laws and principles to model mass and density based on gravitational information. It's like saying that we cant calculate the electrical resistance of a conductor because of the lack of a unified field theory.

Here you go - Earth Sciences 101, courtesy of Liverpool University, explaining some basics of Earth's internal structure and how we know.

Thanks for the info and link mate!

I'll check it out! Cheers and peace!

Round here knowing what you're talking about is seriously frowned upon!

A new theory - Atlantis has described inner earth.

E-I, did you deliberately re-label that drawing of Atlantis to turn it into a "hollow Earth" map or did you just paste it from somewhere else?

--Jaylemurph

Pasted. Unless that's EI's site, someone else has done the absurd relabeling and nonsensical commentary.

Wow even I have to agree that this Atlantis-Hollow Earth theory is one of the silliest I've seen regarding both those topics.

My tinfoil-hat off for that one!

You know, bee came up with a theory that the Inner Earth existed in (or was a metaphor for) another dimension/plane of reality. Of all the sundry Inner Earth ideas, I always thought that was the best.

--Jaylemurph

Im with you on this one. I think they are stress related.

Hey all, I'm new here also. But, I have to say, I have read some pretty intersting info on the hollow earth theory, that tells me perhaps the jury is still out on this one. Check out a site called Ascension. Specifically a conglomerate of bucu theory called Convergence. Could it be that as it is on the micro scale, so it is on the macro scale and everywhere in between. Check it out, Mulder might have been right. Most scientific theories absolutely leave no room for variation. It is supposedly known that the center of the earth is molten magnetic material, swirling all around with currents much like in the oceans. But.........whats the deal. I have also read that magnet materials, when in high heated molten states, no longer retain thier magnet properties. Well just that single tidbit throws a big wrench into the stew. Do you know of any researchers who have been down to the center.........no.In the hollow earth theory it is thought that in the very center of the earth and actually ALL planetary bodies, that there is an atomis type reaction or nucleas, just as in the center of an atom or on a larger scale, just like the sun is at the center of a solar system. In the spirit of keeping an open mind, check it out.
Believe it or not, there IS some interesting science backing up SOME of this hollow earth business. If there is a reaction in the center of the earth, when that reaction recieves incoming energies from the universe and increases in intensity, then it does not seem unreasonable that this energy increase COULD cause an outward pressure from within and cause the planet to grow a little bit larger. Over vast time scales this could account for the reason that the continents have drifted apart from where they originally started, ALL CONNECTED. Each time the energy level increases, they spread out further as the planet has gotten larger.

Mulder was (is?) a fictional character.

--Jaylemurph

Blimey! As the saying goes.....you could have knocked me down with a feather...when I read this!

Anyway.....I have been having a little ponder on how the mysterious hum could fit in with the
Inner Earth=another dimension theory.

This is what I've come up with....for now.....

If the earth resonates at around 7.8Hz......and this is the natural frequency of the planet.
This might be the 'hum'.

Then if the theta brainwave that we humans have when we go deeper than relaxation....when
we dream, daydream, and go into similiar states....is around the same frequency....then at those
moments in time we will become 'one' with the planet (and others in the theta state) resonating together.

I suggested (in a thread on hollow/Inner Earth) a few months ago.....that the Inner Earth dimension could be
where we go when we dream and when we first die. So if the hum is the earth itself....and theta brainwaves
are resonating with the earth......and we go into 'theta' when we dream and the dream dimension is somehow
accessed within the earth.....then there may be a connection with the hum and Inner Earth.

The hum may be a pathway, of sorts.......to the inner earth dimension and to our 'higher selves'.......??

The hum that is used during deep meditation could also be a pathway to the Inner Self and Inner Earth ??
Resonating at around 7.8Hz.....?

All together now.....AAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

Theres one big problem with the hollow earth theory and thats volcaneos and magma
if the earth is hollow where does all the magma come from Hmm

Back at the turn of the 20th Century Nikola Tesla supposedly transmitted electric currents clear through the Earth, "bouncing" them off the antipodes.

If that's true, wouldn't Tesla have noticed if the Earth was hollow? Wouldn't his math have gotten all screwed up? As it is, his send and return rates seem to have been what standard math predicted and that math was based upon a solid Earth.

All my life I've been hoping that in the afterlife we get the entirety of the Universe to muck around in.

But now I learn that the New Jerusalem is in the center of the Earth!

How claustrophobic!

I'm just saying lets keep an open mind here. Why not check out www.divinecosmos.com then convergence and read. Pretty interesting theory I thought

I took a look at divinecosmos.com

"David Wilcock the re-incarnation of Edgar Cayce".... at this point I knew there would be nothing of value to read in any of his ideas right there!!

I bet that book's a gripping read... Why I Am A More Interesting Person Than I Appear And Can Pontificate On Any Subject, by David Wilcock.

Still, I wanted to find out what he had to spout about the Hollow Earth, but I can't see the 'convergence' link.


I think this thread so far has indicated pretty open minds all round, seeing as we're discussing a claim with nothing going for it whatsoever, and lots and lots of reasons to think it's not so.

How open a mind do you think we have to keep on this? I can't see that it should be treated as an equally viable hypothesis to its alternative (the solid Earth hypothesis/theory/fact). In fact, it's barely believable that we're discussing this as any more than an historical curiosity, really.

Welcome, btw

Some people will insist on believing something clearly against all reason and proof, merely for novelty's sake. And then demand equal respect for their belief, no matter how unlikely or improbable because "it's possible".

--Jaylemurph

Yup. Not to mention the lengths people will go to to stretch the meaning of the term 'possible'.

Look, there are very few things, possibly none, which I look upon as being more unlikely than that the Earth is hollow.

But as a Fortean I try to be willing to as objectively as possible examine the evidence for just about anything, and that has to include Hollow Earth theories.

That way if the newspapers do someday carry the headline EARTH IS HOLLOW! THERE ARE PEOPLE INSIDE! I'm not going to go out and blow out my brains with a revolver, as I'm afraid some orthodox geologists might do upon seeing their entire belief system crushed into shambles.

No they wouldnt

And again, no they wouldn't.

Personally, as (I hope) a person of at least average intelligence, I'd like to think that I too would objectively examine the evidence for any claim which is seriously made, including Hollow Earth theories; indeed, that's what this thread is about. A new piece of evidence was touted as 'proof' for the claim, so many of us here came over to objectively examine that evidence. Is this different to what a Fortean would do? Hey, the Fortean Times is one of my favourite publications, maybe I am a Fortean!

But I suspect also that, whilst you are willing to look at any evidence for the claim, you would not place the belief on an equal footing with the Solid Earth Theories? Of course, in discussions like these we all have the luxury of being able to assert what we like in an idealistic fashion... but say for a moment it actually mattered - maybe a Hollow Earther becomes the US president (I won't be surprised for a moment), and begins to make changes to textbooks and school curricula to put the Hollow Earth hypothesis on an equal footing with the soulless Solid Earth proposition in science classes. Or proposes a trillion-dollar expedition to make contact with the Inner-Earthlings. Would you still be so even-handed? Or is your position in fact identical with mine, where I will happily look at any evidence given, but am very clear that this is not in any way an idea comparable to mainstream science, either in methodology or conclusion?

I also have read other things which pertain to the same theory...it makes you wonder when you really delve into the info here....don't just speak out of ignorance...educate yourself on the subject first before professing an opinion please.

What makes you think we haven't?

Maybe the earth has an ulcer due to all the stress and thats the hummmmm, gergle gergle

I'm by no means as certain of that as you and Nucular seem to be.

I regard this as a Fortean list and you as one of the leading Forteans on it.



Actually I do exactly that while studying the evidence. That way if the author does say anything worth remembering I'm not going to miss it. Afterwards, though, the overwhelming evidence for the Solid Earth immediately re-asserts itself.




No President of the US would have that authority. (Well, he/she could "propose" anything.)

But what that expedition would do is to establish the Solid Earth for all time. Maybe that would be worth a trillion dollars. <g>

I have since checked the meaning of the term which I should have known anyway, so I take that as a considerable compliment, thank you




Fair enough. Though, I guess what I was driving at with my (admittedly flawed) hypothetical situation was whether you're simply suspending your disbelief or genuinely placing the ideas on an equal footing - you've answered my question clearly, however. Probably a better example though would have been a Hollow earth lobby trying to get school textbooks changed as per the ID parade.


Actually, there is a shadow of a chance I might be able to agree with that tongue-in-cheek sentiment, if I thought for a second that the expedition would achieve that. However, 'digging in the wrong place', 'government cover-up' and so forth would be shouted loud enough to cast doubt again.

Mind you OTR - if you raise the trillion, I'll bring the spades

No i googled hollow earth in images, lol.

The way I figure it, the earth must be hollow. That's the only place Osama bin Laden could be hiding for all of these years. Ya figure that the U.S. has spent tens of billions of dollars (the Afghanistan War and elsewhere) looking for this guy. Where else could he be hiding? Unless, that is, the earth is hollow.

In a cupboard in the White House?

If my (humble ) 'theory' of the Inner Earth being another space/time dimension.....a place where we
go when we dream......and when we first die......then maybe Osama IS in the Inner Earth dimension.....probably
thinking........"Oh, s***, I think I got this jihad business all wrong."......perhaps it wasn't such a good idea to
encourage the killing of all the 'disbelievers' after all."

(karma and all that jazz.......)

Good positive comeback. I like the bit about a cupboard in the White House. I hadn't considered that...