Ive noticed little tidbits and referances here and there and thought it interesting to start a topic like this up .

Its well known that kids shows like barney , teletubbies , most disney movies / programs protray the world in an unrealisticly much nicer way then it actually is . Kids who watch these shows appear to be happy ... but does this really help them at all ? Does blocking the minds of youth from the truth a good thing ? Or does it cause problems later in life when they figure out the truth , particularily in their teenage years .

I would have to say it helps them slightly in giving them a happy childhood , but I know many young people who watched these shows when they were little and I also know many who did not watch these shows . It seems to me , kids who have their minds blocked from the truth are much more likely to use drugs on a regular basis and live a sexually immoral lifestyle ( I know "sexually immoral" is subjective , so we will just say having sex with multiple people while they are still minors / considered to young for sex ) . The people I know who did not enjoy / watch these shows seem to have a much more down to earth view of the world and its problems , I have talked to many people in my school and its pretty obvious that some of them have no clue of what the real world is like in any way shape or form . As I check through multiple people it seems like the correlation between watching unrealistic / simplistic childrens shows and stupidity later in life is disturbing .

What would you prefer? What do you think is more appropriate?

Sure those programs seem unrealistic/silly to a teenager or adult. They are not meant to be viewed for adult entertainment. Watch the show with a 3 1/2 year old.


You can't really believe that "kids shows like barney , teletubbies , most disney movies / programs " cause kids to grow up promiscuous & use drugs?

Dot9M

the argument lies in that because they are unrealistic in terms of the real world they grow up with false outlooks on life and have to make up for it when they discover the truth . These shows may make the kids happy at the time , but in reality just delay the inevitable . Im not saying all kids who watch disney are guaranteed to start having bong parties , Im just saying these TV programs that are supposed to lead to a healthier development are not exactly living up to it .

How can you mature if you views originate from deception ? To answer my own question , you can still mature , but it seems to stunt their maturity process . Especially with disney ... seriously ... I would suggest you watch what they have put on the zoog disney channel as no words can describe the recent insanity they are trying to peddle off to todays youth ( a hint to the obsurdity would be to look towards what is considered politically correct . If you dont know how bad PC has gotten lately maybe I should write it on a blackboar.... oops ! not allowed to say that anymore ! )

It's a parents job to raise a child, not Barney's.

On a side note... I am completely dismayed that my 3 1/2 yr old loves Power Rangers. The worst is that I cannot get those darn theme songs out of my mind

Dot9M

Its seems people are not realizing Im not really generalizing here , I know many kids will grow up fine and this wont matter ... but it definatly seems like the kids who have consumed the media to a certain point seem to end up clueless about real life .

You have a good point with age appropriateness , which brings up the real question here - what should kids be allowed to see ? In my opinion , the shows that are out today for the youth are just too ridiculously stupid .

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Dot9M

If we're discussing strictly the 'sheltered life' aspect...quite frankly, children usually 'grow up' all by themselves...I think if you're still seeing the world in the colours of Barney the Disosaur by the time you should have matured a little, then there's something seriously wrong.

I don't think children's programs in any way 'harm' a child in later life...as they grow, they should be exposed to life, and learn more about what it's all about for themselves...exactly how much they're exposed to, and how quickly, is far more likely to influence how they end up. Whether they grew up watching Rainbow or not seems like a pretty trivial factor

Would you rather Barney the Dinosaur started with:

"Hey kids! Today, we're going to reinact what occured between former president, Bill Clinton, and Monica Lewinsky. Later in the show, we'll show you where hamburgers come from "?

There IS a limit to exactly what we can expose children to, before they're mature enough to understand or accept it.

limit does definatly affect it , your right in that . But far too many families are letting their kids watch this garbage , the shows should still restrain a little , ( as with your point on talking about clintons affairs would be a bad idea ) but "LA LA LALA LALLAAA LAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU !!!!!! *insert subliminal and repetitive happy song here* " isnt on the brink of intellect either . A real problem lies in parents underestimating their childrens minds and believing they cant handle something that they really would have no problem with . Would it hurt to talk about morality a bit more in treating others in place of a repetitive song about a blue snuffle creature that does not exist ?

Just one question.. Why did you post this in the Conspiracies section??

sera , it was clear she knew what she was doing in her life , despite whether or not it was ethical . Are you proposing that a movie that only had about 3 seconds of nudity in total is going to change anything ? I think that by her parents not allowing her to see it they probobly caused her teenage rebellion phase of life to get worse , on top of that aside from the very low account of nudity the movie was fairly good in my opinion .

Xenojjin,

you take life a bit too seriously. Let kids have their fun



you generalise too much too

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did not mean that as a generalization , made it clear a few posts back I am not claiming to be right 100% at all .

Actually what I was trying to do here was get two people who didnt agree besides myself and then watch them exchange logical blows from the sideline while eating popcorn , my own views were just a trigger ... I guess it didnt work out too well

I've got two cents , I've got two cents ..... And I also have two children who I put through there early childhood education almost entirely on my own . With there not being a kindergarten in the country , it was all done through the correspondence school, with me being primary teacher .
All I can say is teaching is a lot more indepth than most of us realise. There have been years of research into the things that trigger a childs brain and what stages of delopment occur during certain ages .
After doing a little research or raising a couple of little geniuses it becomes far more apparent that repetative boring songs help children to develop regular speech paterns , songs with finger movements help with eye hand co-ordination and most of all these songs and programs can help a child develop confidence and social skills . These are only a few examples of the things a child can learn from programs like barney.
Granted the television is no substitute for actual human contact but programs like Barney are more beneficial than harmfull .

When I was a child I used to watch a program called Humphrey B.Bear . Humphrey was of course a large bear and there where several different hosts , my favorite host was a rather effeminate man by the name of Glynn who liked wearing Tu-tu's .
I miss Humphrey

*shudders* barney......thats just cruel to make kids watch that.

Firstly, as a parent, I belive that too many people use the TV as a babysitter.

We only allow our son, Tom, to watch an hour of kids tv a day, the rest of the time he listens to music, paints, goes for walks and plays with other kids.

The tv he does watch is designed to entertain and educate him (his favourite is the Fimbles, which drives me up the wall, but he adores it).

What should we do? Tell him how as he gets older he will have to deal with all the crap that awaits him in the big, bad world? How people basically dump on other people, rape, murder, war, drug addiction, aids?

I think he should be aware of these things one day, but the 'lil monkey is only 19 Months old for God's sake!

The poor little fella will have to grow up quicker than me, society seems to expect this these days.

I say let them enjoy their time of innocence while they can.

I have some questions on how you base your conclusions, Xenojjin. How old are the people you're asking these questions? If they're all 15 and 16 then you don't quite have an accurate analysis on the end result, because they haven't finished their own natural "Rebellion" phase. Also at that age it is not considered "Cool" to admit to liking a kid's show. It is natural for kids to rebel as teenagers, even to challenge their parents in many ways, including the guidance they received from childhood. This can be disastrous, but the results won't be apparent until they have reached adulthood, because (hopefully) we learn from our mistakes. But the more guidance they receive from their parents, the more they will realize that their parents were looking out for them and not trying to keep them prisoner. Barney and Teletubbies, along with the shows that are with them, like Sesame Street and Arthur, can be very educational. And life is defined by how a person chooses to live it, not by the forces that surround the individual. If the opposite were true we would never have people like Martin Luther King Jr. and many others who stood up to immense adversity, and challenged the "Reality" of their times.

One aspect of the topic could be viewed like this: If a child watches these shows and sees how people love each other on the show, and then looks at their own family and doesn't see that love expressed as openly, or at all, they may then question their family's values. This could lead to a rebellion against the family later. On the other hand, if they see even more love expressed in their family, then this will aid them in the future, always knowing they have a family and values to turn to in times of turmoil.

The 15 year old girl who sleeps with older guys may have deeper issues than simple rebellion or fascination with children's shows. She may be trying to fill the father figure role that is missing in her life. She may have been sexually abused as a child, and that is how she has come to identify showing affection. She may have low self esteem and is trying to make herself feel better. Once again her life is not defined by the forces surrounding her, only when she seeks some kind of help will her wounds heal. I honestly hope your friend does heal.

oh crap, i promised my self i would never, ever visit another conspiracies topic again, after having a near-nervous breakdown thinking that the american school system brainwashes kid, but im back now. crap.

Yes but a child relies on their parent for affection, attention, and guidance. Even in the animal world, without these things the child will have very little chance of survival. But I do see your point, you may want to talk to this friend, this girl, and try to help her help herself. All morality aside, the physical danger she places herself in is astronomical in consideration of how common STDs are these days.

this is another type of brainwash. 'they' get kids to think that everybody is going to like you, youll all get along just fine, and there will always be some one there to help you - and the kids crash when they realize that its not like that. there is always some body who wont like you, youll always have disagreements, and nobodys going to help you because your on your own. the kids are emotionally scarred for life. it may seem un-believable, but when i was in the age for those sorts of TV, i had an inkling of this and wouldnt watch barney, seasame street, ect. born paranoid.

I say it helps them, but only up to a certain age. You eventually need to begin to expose them to the real world.

Children shows are great way for kids to learn how interact with envt.

It's true the the great childrens shows ended in the the early 90's.

the new cartoon have just killed any learning or creativty bar, but they dont in way hurt children.

My godkids shouldn't have to be worried about people murdering, raping and hunger. Hell, i am an adult and i don't want to know about these things.

A lot of things that the goverment may be hiding are in childrens cartoons. The types of teleportation they use and some of their abilities that may seem impossible, something they would put in a cartoon because cartoons are assumed to be fake and impossible things occur in them. The truth is there is people around the world that can transport themselves around. Just because you haven't seen it in the news doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If i had the power to teleport I would never let anyone know...think about it

I have video proof!

except for people online , because nobody who doesnt believe will care .

I have a 6 year old girl and when she is allowed to watch 'anything' on TV her
attitude goes downhill. It doesn't matter what the 'kid show' is. One would
think that Arthur for instance is relatively mild and safe. That DW though. For some reason my daughter misses all relative points and emulates DW (who if you don't know is just a really awful kid)

TV .................bah humbug....

ah yes the most ingenius method ...