Ok, i'm getting kind of fed up with the fact that every1 relates things to the Loc Ness Monster, and not the Ogopogo

Now to fill in those who do not know about the Ogopogo, it is a monster much described like Nessy the only major differace being that it would be found in Lake Okanogan which is found in Canada

and the reason i put this here is because i have found no topics dealing with the Ogopogo but soooo many dealing with The Loc Ness Monster, and im sick of Scotland getting all of the attetion, for once i am saying that it's not just the other parts of the world that are interesting but Canada is too!

also to any one who has any information or pictures please post them, i for one would love to see what you have either seen or found

edit: misspelled name

We use to have a member on here who was very up to date on this topic but unfortuently he hasn't been on for a ling time.

Yes Canadian Rottweiler was pretty up to date on the Ogopoga.. here is one of the older discussions: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...&hl=ogopogo

Hope this helps.

I am extreme in my Ogopogo knowledge. Ask me anything about it and I will answer correctly.

Hmm heres a toughie whats his favourite type of frosting on cakes, also whens his birthday

Vanilla, Janurary 6th.

When did the first sightings occur?

Excluding local legends from the Native tribes before colonization by white man, the first sightings documented were in the 1860's.

You wanna try Out-Ogopogo me? Bring it on man. Bring it on! This is SPARTA!

The reasons why Scotland is getting all the attention may shed some interesting light upon the truth of the Loch-ness monster and Ogopogo.

Is not the reasons for attention being that greater evidence is being found? Why then complain about Canada not getting as much attention when it must be true that Canada must not have as much startling evidence for the monsters as Scotland does?

For your argumant to hold any water it would seem that you believe that Canada has better evidence for the monsters then Scotland does?

As well though it may just be that Canada is less interested in discovering the Ogopogo.

NO THIS IS UM but i digress is it allways the same type of creature or does it vary

As with almost every cryptid, sightings vary from an enormous fish, to a plesiosaur, however an overwhelming amount of reports are of a serpentine animal in the lake, remeniscent of the extinct Basilosaurus.

Is there video evidence? also has there been any efforts with sonar as there has with Loch Ness

There have been two genuine videos recorded of a large creature within the lake however no sonar efforts have been used to try and locate the monster.

Its unbeleiveable that they have,nt tried sonar is the lake privately owned or something?

Loch Ness lends itself far better to sonar probing, due to its shape, long and narrow. Much more difficult with most lakes.

Still the most modern forms of commercial sonar would do the job

Mainstream scientests don't really see the need for investigating a quite possibly make believe creature.

And yet they have done it a number of times for Loch Ness, thats favouriteism for you

And we all know the Loch Ness Monster doen't even exist!

Of course, but with Loch Ness, they had the available boats to make a concerted sweep, eliminating the possibility of a large creature evading their sonar. Such simply isn't feasible elsewhere, no matter how sophisticated the equipment.

Its a clear cut case of ogo not being "cool" enough to have the proper resources devoted to it

All I have to say is that my dad and his family grew up near the lake, which is spelled Okanagan, not with a 'c'. My brilliant uncle said he saw the monster, and to try and prove it, he shot at it. Yeah....anyway, I grew up around Kootenay Lake, and the area I grew up in did not have any natives camping there to fish. There was a story that a monster lived in the bay there and the natives were terrified of it. There are all kinds of caves that lead off this lake, which has an average depth of 350 feet (it was thought bottomless until they brought sonar in to see if they could find the bottom). A theory was that this monster would travel through the tunnels between Lake Okanagan and Kootenay Lake, hunting. But, due to a large tremor, the tunnel it travelled through collapsed and it was stuck in Lake Okanagan. It is a fun theory.

Ok i'll edit the first post so that i have spelled the name of the lake proper

and thanks for a bit of information, any1 have an oppion

Fasinating! That is a funny theory.
So, the lake is certainly big enough to hold a monster. But what about food supply? One problem with the Nessie theory is that, supposedly, there arn't enough food resources for a huge creature to survive. What about Lake Okanagan?
And if there is caves that lead off of the lake, it would be hard to find a creature living down there.


Undeadskeptic, what day are we going to disprove/prove the existence of Ogopogo? And who came up with that slightly ridiculous name?

I beleive the name is derives from the local native peoples, also wasn,t the lake open to the ocean as well in the past?

Open to the ocean? That would definitely give this monster more credibility. We really have no idea what goes on in the ocean, half of the time.

It was open to the ocean at the end of the last ice age now that raises possibillities

Stop being Jealous! You Canadians go grab a bottle of syrup and cry in a corner! We don't need you!


Hahaha...That was quite fun!

I don,t get the syrup bit?

Ok well you go buzz off, and Maharaja canada's main export is maple syrup (or at least thats what were known for) and he make a bad joke bout it

and Otterclaw it does raise a bunch of idea's about the possiblity of it being connected to the ocean

Do i sense a racist-alike jealousy there? There are a LOT of sightings of Nessie, every day, but almost no-one sees the Ogopogo as if it doesn't excist. Maybe Canada should put up more videos and stuff.

We have sturgeon, ling cod, and all kinds of trout in our lakes. So, the food could/would be there, especially if it could travel through tunnels. I highly doubt any of this, but imagining it being real is fun.

Yes, I agree. So we have a pretty solid prey population to sustain him/her (why does everyone think Nessie is a "she" and all the other sea-serpents are males? Maybe Nessie just is one pissed off guy.) And a large enough lake to hold him. The tunnels are very interesting factors. I'll look into them.

The day will be Janurary 5th 2013, duh thats like basic knowledge

But seriously the name, strangely comes from a totally unrelated musical number called Ogopogo the Funny Fox Trot:

I'm looking for the ogopogo
the funny fox trot
his mother was an earwig
his father was a whale
I'm going to put a little bit of salt on his tale

(No really those are the lyrics)

It was often performed at the lakeside, and people began to think the song was based on the monster sightings. Considering there's no obvious connection to a whale/earwig/fox trot and a serpent monster I'm thinking it took a bit of time...

Ogopogo isn't the creatures original name.. the natives called it 'N'ha-a-itk', and there have been pictographs of by the natives of a snake like monster in the lake.

There have been recent sightings of the Ogopogo (a dozen or so since 2000), but to me all the pictures look like standing waves. Though an interesting story is of a marathon swimmer who swears a large creature was swimming along with him while he was training in the lake. He motioned over his spotter in a near by boat.. but it was gone when the boat got to him. He continued swimming and later on swore he again saw a creature, this time with an eye the size of a grapefruit. There have also been a number of sightings where large groups saw the Ogopogo.

As far as doing sonar sweeps.. Compare the size of one lake to the other: Loch Ness Max Depth is 230m, Surface Area of 56.4 km², and Volume of 7.4 km³... the Okanagan Lake is Max Depth (assumed, could be lower beneath shelves) 230 m, but Surface Area of 351 km² and Volume of 24.6 km³ (roughly as deep as loch ness but 6 times longer and twice as wide). Another way to put this in perspective.. the Okanagan Lake has only slightly less volume than all the Lochs of Scotland combined (which is 28 km³ , as cited from http://www.nls.uk/maps/early/bathymetric/information.html) - and Loch Ness alone is considered to have as much fresh water as all of the lakes of England and Wales.

Also as people have mentioned Lake Okanagan is considered to have been a Fjord lake at one point - which would mean it was connected to the Ocean at the end of the last ice age.

The tunnels and the theory that it could have been connected to the ocean really contribute to its credibility. If it was connected to the ocean, that would explain how one could manage to get in. The tunnels would provide a suitable place to hide, as well.

It would be extremely difficult to do a sonar sweep, but I bet we could probably pick up something. That would take a massive amount of effort, though. Still, it would be fun if we could manage to do it someday soon...

But that would ignore the issues associated with changes in salinity.

Oh thought I would also mention.. there are no confirmed reports of Sturgeon in the Okanagan Lake (though the river system it was formerly connected to has them) - and the Lake has been dammed of from the river since 1920, which would prevent any sturgeon from reaching breeding grounds if they were in the lake when it was dammed off. So it's possible it could be a sturgeon.. but it would be getting on into it's 90's as the youngest. Also as far as I can tell there are no eel's in the lake.

This also doesn't solve the issue with biomass.. which is still an issue even with a lake as large as this. I wonder why Lake Superior never picked up an lake monsters..

Ha, I've been there before. Or was that Lake Eyrie? Tis' a big difference between the two...

Video

Thanks for the pictures! Personally, they all just look like...waves, to me.

No problem..

The video is really convincing. Personally, I think Ogopogo is a basilosaurus.

A salt water cetacean in a fresh water lake eh?

yeah, that is what they look like to me, too.

Either that or a gigantic river otter!

You do know either of those would be easy to find and that a sustainable population would be very obvious and more importantly the basilosaur would die due to osmoregulatory issues.

Not to mention the fact that even if this was a branch of whale that managed to evolve back into a freshwater mammal in such a brief period.. the odds are high they would have been spotted by now when they surface to breath. The argument that they would be afraid of people seems unlikely since they were greatly feared by the natives (according to legend) and you think there would me more stories of Ogopogo hunts since then if they continued to be spotted.

I believe at least some Ogopogo reports are genuine, but that its probably a stranded cetacen or possibly an abnormally large fish or just freak waves.

Or has it?