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clem
here it is!.. crop circle season 2008 is underway. looks a lil bit broken so theres a chance its a hoax . but first circle reported april 19 at Waden Hill, Avebury Wiltshire.
first formation 2008 reported
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clem
Promethius
I reckon its a hoax, it doesnt seem... authentic looking if you know what i mean.

crop circles are generally quite easy to hoax from what i've heard. it looks like it's just been made with weedkiller or a similar substance, or perhaps has been photoshopped.
its good to see some new circles even if its not likely to be genuine. thumbsup.gif

oh BTW you've just inspired me to try photoshopping a crop-circle to see how easy it is, i might post it in a while... thumbsup.gif
clem
QUOTE (Promethius @ Apr 20 2008, 03:45 PM) *
I reckon its a hoax, it doesnt seem... authentic looking if you know what i mean.

crop circles are generally quite easy to hoax from what i've heard. it looks like it's just been made with weedkiller or a similar substance, or perhaps has been photoshopped.
its good to see some new circles even if its not likely to be genuine. thumbsup.gif

oh BTW you've just inspired me to try photoshopping a crop-circle to see how easy it is, i might post it in a while... thumbsup.gif

you should read up a little on crop circles- they are generally NOT easy to hoax. real ones are not broken and even interwoven and swirled, and contain PERFECT math. not close. PERFECT.
but if you dont believe you dont believe. nothing i could say would convince you. so good luck w/ the photochopping.
clem
Ghost Ship
I have always believed that crop circles are being made by the aliens to keep people intrigued about the possibility of alien life. Humans want to mimic any amazing creative effort made by anyone. I wonder who the real original makers of the first crop circle really are? Even if they are human.

Does anyone know the exact first crop circle ever made?
clem
QUOTE (Ghost Ship @ Apr 20 2008, 04:03 PM) *
I have always believed that crop circles are being made by the aliens to keep people intrigued about the possibility of alien life. Humans want to mimic any amazing creative effort made by anyone. I wonder who the real original makers of the first crop circle really are? Even if they are human.

Does anyone know the exact first crop circle ever made?

they've been reported for centuries.. they've been called devil circles, fairy circles, etc.. not sure how far back that goes exactly. lemme investigate.
Promethius
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so good luck w/ the photochopping.


Thanks, I think i'm gonna need it, its turning out harder than I thaught.
I think i might take heed of what you said about their difficulty to hoax, I don't know anything at all when it comes to crop circles, so i jus' made assumptions. thumbsup.gif
Promethius
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Does anyone know the exact first crop circle ever made?


Is anyone else thinking 'Nazca lines' here?

mind you, im pretty sure that they were human built. thumbsup.gif
clem
QUOTE (Ghost Ship @ Apr 20 2008, 04:03 PM) *
I have always believed that crop circles are being made by the aliens to keep people intrigued about the possibility of alien life. Humans want to mimic any amazing creative effort made by anyone. I wonder who the real original makers of the first crop circle really are? Even if they are human.

Does anyone know the exact first crop circle ever made?

here we go..
early crop circle

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Ghost Ship
QUOTE (clem @ Apr 20 2008, 09:12 AM) *


A Very interesting origin of the crop circle theory. Good find. It makes the crop circles seem like something mystical and having origins from somewere other then space or even Earth. Maybe it's something that has a spiritual or dimensional origin wereas it's a communication of some sort from another realm.

They may even be incidental in some way. But how i do not know.
clem
QUOTE (Ghost Ship @ Apr 20 2008, 04:34 PM) *
A Very interesting origin of the crop circle theory. Good find. It makes the crop circles seem like something mystical and having origins from somewere other then space or even Earth. Maybe it's something that has a spiritual or dimensional origin wereas it's a communication of some sort from another realm.

They may even be incidental in some way. But how i do not know.

cool theory.. although i (personally) dont think there's much of a difference between space/earth/spiritual/dimensional.
ive also read more lately of planets/suns etc having their own form of consiousness, on a macro lvl. what if this is earth communicating... just another theory to throw in the mix.
Heartagram3200
QUOTE (clem @ Apr 20 2008, 11:12 AM) *



Well, thats the first "recorded" crop circle...I bet they go back further than that though...And, what were those lines in the middle of the desert in south america called? They create like huge images like spiders and other stuff...I forget the name though, but arent thye supposed to be like really really old?
clem
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Apr 20 2008, 06:07 PM) *
Well, thats the first "recorded" crop circle...I bet they go back further than that though...And, what were those lines in the middle of the desert in south america called? They create like huge images like spiders and other stuff...I forget the name though, but arent thye supposed to be like really really old?

oh ya.. i wouldnt doubt they go back as far as we do- however far THAT might be..
and those are the nazca lines-as promethius mentioned
bee
QUOTE (clem @ Apr 20 2008, 02:30 PM) *
here it is!.. crop circle season 2008 is underway. looks a lil bit broken so theres a chance its a hoax . but first circle reported april 19 at Waden Hill, Avebury Wiltshire.


Thanks for that.....but I agree.....it looks like a hoax.

I like your avatar, by the way.
Clovis
Crop circles were never called faerie circles. They are two unrelated phenomena. Look up fairy forts to find out what faerie circles are. This one crop circle reminds me of the milky way.
=Jak=
Why it happens only in crop??
Clovis
I believe it has something to do with our food supply. Why do cattle mutilations only happen to animals? While one is a symbol the other is a ritual. We can be certain both serve a purpose and I suspect both are connected as opposite ends of a polarity.

Crop circles are messages I believe for certain people with the knowledge of what they mean even if those people have not come into full understanding themselves of that meaning. I also do not believe these are sky phenomena attributed to UFOs but earth mysteries. Even if UFOs do appear one day and say we did them I would not believe them as I do not believe they are from another far away planet but like us are from this planet.
bogcreeper
QUOTE (Clovis @ Apr 21 2008, 06:20 AM) *
I believe it has something to do with our food supply. Why do cattle mutilations only happen to animals? While one is a symbol the other is a ritual. We can be certain both serve a purpose and I suspect both are connected as opposite ends of a polarity.

Crop circles are messages I believe for certain people with the knowledge of what they mean even if those people have not come into full understanding themselves of that meaning. I also do not believe these are sky phenomena attributed to UFOs but earth mysteries. Even if UFOs do appear one day and say we did them I would not believe them as I do not believe they are from another far away planet but like us are from this planet.

I agree. I also believe non man made crop circles are messages. I have thought out this theory for quite some time. I also do not believe they are connected to ufo's even though earthlights (willow wisps) have been connected to many circles and they are unidentified. There are a few ways to make sure that a crop cirlcle is not a hoax. Number one if you get there fast enough, you will hear a sizzling sound radiating from the circle which is most likely water vapor being pressured out of the plant. Number two the plants will not be broken. In hoax cirlces, you can tell that the grass has been stepped on, in the real circles the plants almost look like they were melted into place. A number of leading crop circle scientists today say that sound itself plays a great role in these developments. I had a post recently dealing with this very matter.
SoulFire

the aliens that did that one were obviously drunk.
clem
QUOTE (Clovis @ Apr 21 2008, 09:40 AM) *
Crop circles were never called faerie circles. They are two unrelated phenomena. Look up fairy forts to find out what faerie circles are. This one crop circle reminds me of the milky way.

k so there's mushroom circles called pixie rings.. or fairy rings.
there's fairy circles that are kindof related to crop formations in appearance- (i guess both are)
and fairy FORTS are different altogether..

fairy circle in africa
fairy rings
fairy forts
i gotta go back to work alien.gif
clem

(edited for spelling)
Light'sShadow
I've never really understood Crop Circles. I don't see the point, just makes us think more about UFO's and alien life forms out there. *chuckles*

It's interesting though. As for the perfect math, who's to say the farmer didn't calculate it all? o.O?
Sag!ttarius
QUOTE (StagnantTempest @ Apr 21 2008, 04:31 PM) *
I've never really understood Crop Circles. I don't see the point, just makes us think more about UFO's and alien life forms out there. *chuckles*

It's interesting though. As for the perfect math, who's to say the farmer didn't calculate it all? o.O?


No way some of these crop circles can be man made. The math and geometry is way too perfect to be made overnight by a bunch of creative tricksters with 2x4's and plywood. Just looking at last few year's complex geometry embeded in those circles, not a chance in hell. Some of the lesser complex ones, no doubt they are hoaxes. The only thing I find annoying is, those hoaxers are actually discrediting the whole phenomena, just as UFO hoaxers are doing to the UFO phenomena Sheesh! alien.gif
clem
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Apr 21 2008, 01:11 PM) *
I agree. I also believe non man made crop circles are messages. I have thought out this theory for quite some time. I also do not believe they are connected to ufo's even though earthlights (willow wisps) have been connected to many circles and they are unidentified. There are a few ways to make sure that a crop cirlcle is not a hoax. Number one if you get there fast enough, you will hear a sizzling sound radiating from the circle which is most likely water vapor being pressured out of the plant. Number two the plants will not be broken. In hoax cirlces, you can tell that the grass has been stepped on, in the real circles the plants almost look like they were melted into place. A number of leading crop circle scientists today say that sound itself plays a great role in these developments. I had a post recently dealing with this very matter.

ya. adding to that ive heard of a high pitched twilling sound related to the formations being made. (AND the lack of any wildlife nearby- i guess the fakes still have critters crawling all through the broken stalks.)
clem
QUOTE (Sag!ttarius @ Apr 21 2008, 09:49 PM) *
No way some of these crop circles can be man made. The math and geometry is way too perfect to be made overnight by a bunch of creative tricksters with 2x4's and plywood. Just looking at last few year's complex geometry embeded in those circles, not a chance in hell. Some of the lesser complex ones, no doubt they are hoaxes. The only thing I find annoying is, those hoaxers are actually discrediting the whole phenomena, just as UFO hoaxers are doing to the UFO phenomena Sheesh! alien.gif

i know.. dont you hate that. what sux is it worked like a CHARM with the crop circles - those 2 guys with boards really messed things up. i cant believe how many people still believe it was/is them. i show peeps at work my crop circle books, and they say they are hoaxes before they look at the pictures of the last 10 years. and STILL cant quite believe it- thinking it was the 2 guys.
i hope with all the ufo coverage w/ stephenville that they show something on (pick) your favorite headline news about a major formation this year, THEN people'll start believing .(cause the news said so).
LightningMunk
psh i know what the aliens were saying.....they're fans of James Bond and can't wait for the new James Bond flick, Quantum of Solace original.gif

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linked-image

...or smart advertising tongue.gif
clem
QUOTE (LightningMunk @ Apr 21 2008, 11:12 PM) *
psh i know what the aliens were saying.....they're fans of James Bond and can't wait for the new James Bond flick, Quantum of Solace original.gif

linked-image
linked-image

...or smart advertising tongue.gif

lol omg he cannot be stopped
yvan
If these are done by them aliens, they should be praised for the cool designs. Those designs are really out of this world.
=Jak=
When exactly this happen in the night or in the early morning??
Finity
I once saw one a couple of miles from where I live years ago, looked fake though tongue.gif

Still, would have been nice to go back and get a photo.
almeisan
QUOTE (=Jak= @ Apr 21 2008, 11:00 AM) *
Why it happens only in crop??



why it does not wink2.gif

ice


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almeisan

all the hoaxer need do is take a photo of a half completed one.

pinOi32
I dont believe in crop circles...the farmers can just do it themselves just so they can attract attention to their farms.
mystery mystique
QUOTE (Promethius @ Apr 20 2008, 08:09 AM) *
Is anyone else thinking 'Nazca lines' here?

mind you, im pretty sure that they were human built. thumbsup.gif


the nazca lines were the ones in Peru, right? did you know that they only make sense from a sky view, and that when looked at from a sky view, they resemble a man in a space suit
bogcreeper
QUOTE (pinOi32 @ Apr 28 2008, 04:19 PM) *
I dont believe in crop circles...the farmers can just do it themselves just so they can attract attention to their farms.

some of these farmers do not want to lose their crops from neither man made hoax's or non-manmade crop circles. There is a difference in these two. Look up Cymatics and crop circles or just google non manmade crop circles. I have not personally witnessed any but the evidence is there.
Danzig
Maybe crop circles have something to do with natural harmonics...... here's an interesting video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOMiowrff0Y
bogcreeper
QUOTE (Danzig @ Apr 30 2008, 01:40 AM) *
Maybe crop circles have something to do with natural harmonics...... here's an interesting video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOMiowrff0Y

Google (cymatics non man made crop circles) a good deal of scientiests are already on it or go to my profile and look at my posts as I wrote about it recently.
Aeria_Gloris
I think that crop circles are a message, wherever they come from.

I mean, if you interpret that: linked-image

the way I did, it's pretty unnerving. The outer ring's probably the asteroid belt, by the way. And the strangely small center circle would be our lovely sun.
inkblot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_circles

This article gives several reasons most crop circles are fake. One interesting one is that since crop circles have appeared in the media, they have gotten more and more complex, as if the hoaxers were trying to out-do each other.
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