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SOLANUM
I cant say I've ever read one like this.

http://www.kentuckybigfoot.com/counties/union.htm

I found it to be a very intresting read, I've never seen a "bigfoot" described like this, its alot like a mix between a standard sasquatch and a Beast Of Bray Road report.

The actual report is near the botom of the page btw.


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Clovis
Looks more demon than bigfoot. It could have been someone just possessed.

I think bigfoot and sasquatch are just bodyguards and scouts of what we consider aliens and where they land in wilderness areas. Not that all aliens always travel with them.
Tia
Bigfoot with mange? Honestly, I've never heard a report like that.
Yorgmiester
Hmm sounds very fantastical to me...but if it is real sounds much more like a demon or demon-possessed person to me.Not really much resemblance to BF at all.That would be freaky if it was real sad.gif
MUM24/7
He's got a nice six-pack and rippling muscles for a Bigfoot...... tongue.gif
Camozotz
Lol, it sounds pretty fake. I think she was just seeing things, it doesnt sound like anything we've heard of before.
Otterclaw
Hmmm, creepy. I would hate to meet that BF on a dark night. It doesn't sound like a BF though, more of a demon/alien creature. It actually looked like a female, to me. blink.gif
WraithGod
Am I the only one getting a 404 error? lol
Otterclaw
QUOTE (WraithGod @ Apr 21 2008, 04:26 PM) *
Am I the only one getting a 404 error? lol

Whaaa...?
Yorgmiester
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ Apr 21 2008, 09:21 PM) *
It actually looked like a female, to me. blink.gif

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Maybe you should study up on your physiology buddy tongue.gif
kenshinx
QUOTE (WraithGod @ Apr 21 2008, 09:26 PM) *
Am I the only one getting a 404 error? lol


maybe grin2.gif

beautiful pics, creepy-bloody-long-haired-bigfoot... hmmm... need more hair
Otterclaw
QUOTE (Yorgmiester @ Apr 21 2008, 08:32 PM) *
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Maybe you should study up on your physiology buddy tongue.gif


Yikes! I just meant...when I first looked at the picture it just reminded me of a woman.
snuffypuffer
I certainly wouldn't want to meet one of those, but there's so much description of what the thing looked like and next to nothing on what it was doing and how the poster happened upon it. Yanno, perhaps there's a bit of embellishment there.
Yorgmiester
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ Apr 22 2008, 01:49 AM) *
Yikes! I just meant...when I first looked at the picture it just reminded me of a woman.

Lol ik i was joking tongue.gif

But yea this 'thing' is either non-existent or an embellished drunk.Or a demon devil.gif Or maybe it is a hairless starving red-eyed BF thumbsup.gif
Elite
it looks more like a werewolf than bigfoot to me huh.gif
Otterclaw
Oh, dear. I think I should round up my brother before he starts to convince everyone he's a hairy, woman-looking red-eyed bloody demon/bigfoot. Whoops, too late.

On a more serious note (Wait...I was being serious) either someone is making this up, some drunk saw a person walking down the road (how would you remember all those small details?), or we are in a lot of trouble.
fatrobot
i think it is rejected Iron Maiden cover art
bogcreeper
QUOTE (SOLANUM @ Apr 21 2008, 06:23 AM) *
I cant say I've ever read one like this.

http://www.kentuckybigfoot.com/counties/union.htm

I found it to be a very intresting read, I've never seen a "bigfoot" described like this, its alot like a mix between a standard sasquatch and a Beast Of Bray Road report.

The actual report is near the botom of the page btw.


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That is not the only bigfoot sighting with the similar "mange" qualaties here in Kentucky. My mother is the director of the Senior Citizens center here about 10 miles west of the Red River Gorge in Kentucky, (look it up Powell county sighting on the same website, there is also a pictoglyph"cave drawing" of a big foots foot here) anyway I remember a time ago when as a child, they would tell me that the hairless apeman would get me in the woods. I also remember them talking about the odor that came with peoples encounters with it. Bigfoot is as a whole out of my "forte" but I will never forget those stories. To edit and get to this story erase "union" befor the htm and insert powell. This will take you to the site.
makaya325
skeptics, go ahead, REJECT any sighting, bc "EYE WITNESSES are unreliable", but in a court on law, they are counted as evidence. im telling skeptics to look into similiarities between reports of an 8ft bipedal ape, and if u dont even give it consideration, then ur not a skeptic, but a debunker
SquiggleVonNoodle
Was there a serial killer roaming the area at the time?????
Unknown hunt




wow creepy
psyche101
QUOTE (makaya325 @ May 2 2008, 07:37 AM) *
skeptics, go ahead, REJECT any sighting, bc "EYE WITNESSES are unreliable", but in a court on law, they are counted as evidence. im telling skeptics to look into similiarities between reports of an 8ft bipedal ape, and if u dont even give it consideration, then ur not a skeptic, but a debunker



What ya been smoking lately?

Did you read the thread? This encounter only shares a bipedal similarity. Nothing else seems very biff about the story. Werewolf wannabe gone wrong I'd say. Bet the author is spewing it was not picked up and touted as another Werewolf blurb. Maybe in time..... The observer seemed rather fascinated by the claimed creatures genitals. Just wierd.
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (psyche101 @ May 8 2008, 10:53 PM) *
What ya been smoking lately?

Did you read the thread? This encounter only shares a bipedal similarity. Nothing else seems very biff about the story. Werewolf wannabe gone wrong I'd say. Bet the author is spewing it was not picked up and touted as another Werewolf blurb. Maybe in time..... The observer seemed rather fascinated by the claimed creatures genitals. Just wierd.

As is usually the case in threads with misspellings in their titles.
The Maharaja
QUOTE (makaya325 @ May 1 2008, 09:37 PM) *
skeptics, go ahead, REJECT any sighting, bc "EYE WITNESSES are unreliable",

Okay consider it rejected grin2.gif
fallenangel327
I think it sounds like a hobo.

Come on, it makes sense!
Nik Xues
Wendigo?
Syntax
QUOTE (Yorgmiester @ Apr 22 2008, 01:01 AM) *
Hmm sounds very fantastical to me...but if it is real sounds much more like a demon or demon-possessed person to me.Not really much resemblance to BF at all.That would be freaky if it was real sad.gif


On the contrary, these are actually a typical encounters.

I think the big misconception is that because we hypothesise that Bigfoot is a cryptid, then it must behave/look like a animal. In fact history is littered with accounts that contradict that idea.

There was a quantitative study undertaken by several well known Bigfoot researches during the years following 1976 (supported by researchers such as Grover Krantz) which showed some startling results. The first is taken from Loren Coleman's Mothman and other Curious Encounters:

"The patterns that we hoped to see just weren't there".

"The computer showed us that the most common form of sighting is on shore, from a boat"

"The Most common form of sighting in California is from a car on a back road"
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Surely the pattern of sightings would be more 'random' than a pre-determined series of events if BF truly behaved like a terrestrial animal.

There are some other sightings that I have posted in another thread that I will show here:

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- Roachdale, Indiana 1972. Randy and Lou Rogers were disturbed one night by a loud banging on the walls of their home. This occured several nights in a row. Soon a six foot 'Bigfoot' was described limping away from the scene. For the next two to three weeks it returned, letting it's prescence be known with a foul rotting garbage smell. Mrs Rogers would leave it food (it stopped the banging when done), sometimes it would stay to watch Mrs Rogers through the windows of her kitchen. It left no traces of its existence, could run at incredible speeds, made no sound when it passed through undergrowth and sometimes was transparent.

- One day after the sighting of the 'Flatwoods' monster in Flatwoods W.VA in 1952, a young man was driving home through Braxton when a 7 foot tall hairy Bigfoot-esque creature suddenly appeared in front of his car. He slammed on the brakes and the creature calmy approached the front of his car and began to tap the windscreen. He put his foot on the accelerator hitting the creature before speeding off to the nearest police station. A 'V' shape was burned into the grill of his car (something that you will notice was included in the 'Mothman Prophecies' movie) and apart from a few overturned stones, no evidence of its existence was found at the scene the next morning.

- Australia, Gold Coast Hinterland, 1980 (A spot notorious for Yowie sightings). Three friends were camping along Tallebudgera creek when they spotted several hovering lights in the skies above. Soon, from the beach a large Bigfoot-esque creature approached the campers and attacked them. One man was cut on his arm, and the campers fled in terror.

Supposed Bigfoot inhabitable zones actually pool a lot of magentic interference. For instance here in Australia both the Blue Mountains and the Gold Coast Hinterland are interconnected to larger mountain range systems. On magnetic maps (available from your local State Department of Natural resources website) they are indicated as areas with high concerntrations of magnetic interference. While investigating the Mothman flap of 1967, John Keel noticed that West Virginia (home to a large number of bigfoot and other assorted Cryptid sightings) was dotted with magentic hot spots. This shows either a selective habitation (evidence of great intelligence) or the fact that Bigoot is just as much nonsense as the Mothman, Lizardman and UFO sightings that have plagued states such as West Virginia.


Bigfoot does however follow a pattern on where it is sighted, normally in areas that frequent other types of paranormal phenomenon.

The more I read on the subject, the more I am convinced we are running around in circles trying to catch something that can not be found. The 'Ultra-Terrestrial' hypothesis really shines through for me.

There is anothr great book to keep an eye out for called 'Portals Of Sedona', it features the story of a benevolent BF type creature that haunted a farm in Sedona, Arizona (Itself a hotbed of other types of phenomenon). In 1992, much like the Indiana case outlined above, it would rap on the walls for food. A trait which extends itself back to Faerie lore of Celtic Britain and Saxony, and today in the Poltergeist phenomenon.
Mattshark
QUOTE (makaya325 @ May 1 2008, 10:37 PM) *
skeptics, go ahead, REJECT any sighting, bc "EYE WITNESSES are unreliable", but in a court on law, they are counted as evidence. im telling skeptics to look into similiarities between reports of an 8ft bipedal ape, and if u dont even give it consideration, then ur not a skeptic, but a debunker

Oh, that is not really true, witnesses are considered unreliable in law and the further from the event the more unreliable they become considered original.gif. The helpfulness of having your best friend as legal professional. Maybe you should comprehend the difference between scientific and being ignoring the inconsistencies of the proffered eyewitness report. Humans are extremely unreliable as witnesses and both law and science recognise this. In fact there are some excellent studies showing beyond reasonable doubt that eyewitnesses are likely to embellish and outright lie.
snuffypuffer
Until somebody brings back a live Sasquatch I'm calling bull on the whole deal.
Dienasty92
That picture makes me want to keep a 12 guage in my car at all times.
Soullite
QUOTE (Nik Xues @ May 18 2008, 07:10 PM) *
Wendigo?

Yeah, thats the first thing that popped into my mind. Kind of short, but legends tend to exaggerate such things. Also pretty far to the east, given the similarities to the more skeletal 'southwest' Wendigo tradition.

Or, probably more likely, some local saw a large wolf, bear or coy-dog with mange and got scared. If it were totally made up, I'd expect it to sound more like a traditional bigfoot or the more well-known Algonquin Wendigo. Some poor Appalachian schmuck wouldn't be likely to pull a perfect description of an obscure south-western variant of the legend out of his ass in 1983 unless it was based on something he actually saw. I'm voting for a mangy Bear, personally.
The Maharaja
Aren't Wendigo's sopposed to be 13ft tall
makaya325
QUOTE (Mattshark @ May 19 2008, 01:44 AM) *
Oh, that is not really true, witnesses are considered unreliable in law and the further from the event the more unreliable they become considered original.gif. The helpfulness of having your best friend as legal professional. Maybe you should comprehend the difference between scientific and being ignoring the inconsistencies of the proffered eyewitness report. Humans are extremely unreliable as witnesses and both law and science recognise this. In fact there are some excellent studies showing beyond reasonable doubt that eyewitnesses are likely to embellish and outright lie.


so ur telling me every species on earth isnt reliable? but people get judged based on eye witnesses? im not saying accept reports as true, im saying dont EVEN criticize someone before u know them and consider a real explanation, like a ape unknown to science

mattshark, so ur just saying ur right and everyone who thinks its possibly real is wrong? do u know anything about prehistoric great ape behavior, diet, and habitat? no,
Mattshark
QUOTE (makaya325 @ May 22 2008, 10:22 PM) *
so ur telling me every species on earth isnt reliable? but people get judged based on eye witnesses? im not saying accept reports as true, im saying dont EVEN criticize someone before u know them and consider a real explanation, like a ape unknown to science

mattshark, so ur just saying ur right and everyone who thinks its possibly real is wrong? do u know anything about prehistoric great ape behavior, diet, and habitat? no,

What the hell are you on about? I was pointing that your assertion about eyewitness being reliable is just plain wrong and is even considered so in legal cases as well.
I can be assured though Makaya, that I know about them than you.
makaya325
QUOTE (Mattshark @ May 22 2008, 10:40 PM) *
What the hell are you on about? I was pointing that your assertion about eyewitness being reliable is just plain wrong and is even considered so in legal cases as well.
I can be assured though Makaya, that I know about them than you.


yeah RIGHT! did i ever tell u that i worked in the bronx zoo specializing in chimpanzee and gorilla care? did i tell you that experts at the museum of natural history say a sasquatch could be real?

eyewitnesses should then be considered bs in legal cases and in science then? i know they dont "count as evidence in science, but what scientists are unable to do is look into reports and go to areas where the reports are frequent, which they dont do!

at least 90 percent of the fosill record is incomplete. tell me, why havent we found truck loads of skeletons of giganto, which lived in a good fossils preservation area, and all we have is a couple of fragments? why would an animal want to be killed, instead of going to extreme lengths to avoid detection, yet still be seen and video taped?
Mattshark
QUOTE (makaya325 @ May 23 2008, 12:15 AM) *
yeah RIGHT! did i ever tell u that i worked in the bronx zoo specializing in chimpanzee and gorilla care? did i tell you that experts at the museum of natural history say a sasquatch could be real?

eyewitnesses should then be considered bs in legal cases and in science then? i know they dont "count as evidence in science, but what scientists are unable to do is look into reports and go to areas where the reports are frequent, which they dont do!

at least 90 percent of the fosill record is incomplete. tell me, why havent we found truck loads of skeletons of giganto, which lived in a good fossils preservation area, and all we have is a couple of fragments? why would an animal want to be killed, instead of going to extreme lengths to avoid detection, yet still be seen and video taped?

I seriously doubt this following your previous posts. Especially since you think most zoologists work in Africa and unreservedly refuse to believe there is any scientific study in the PNW of North America.
And yes a witness alone is not enough for a legal case, you need more evidence than that.
You idea holds not water Makaya and it has been explained many times, you just choose to ignore the (lack of) evidence.
Did I tell you I'm a professional zoologist?
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