"It's the end of the world as we know it!!!"
you've probably heard that from a Song before (i cant even remember the band that plays it)
Anyways im' not sure if a discussion wide open on this topic has been open yet, but here it goes

December 21st, 2012 is said to be the end of the world by many prophecies especially the Mayan prophecies as foretold by the calender
but what exactly does this mean? the strange weather we've been getting, tornados during winter, earthquakes in the middle of america, giant tsnuamis off the coast of a small inhabited island, deep cold and harsh winters hitting the world.
The idea of another planet that comes around once every 10,000 years called Nibiru which will disrupt the rotation of the planet and the earths gravitaional field. Fire raining from the heavens down to the earth, a plague whiping out thousands in the planet, or a struggle between two forces Good and Evil for the control of the planet and life, God and Lucifer. Whats your take on the idea 2012, many prophecies point toward this date as the end of humanity as we know it....
...but could it be that it could be a new beginning? a new age/era for human kind to enter and develop new technologies? travel through space and time? contact with another intelligent species??
what do you think could happen? lets open it up now
please feel free to post what you think and feel

(again im' not sure if a topic like this has been started, first post on this part of the Forums)

***This is an Open Discussion on what you think***

Did you do a search?

on this forum? if so no i didnt not much time cause class is starting and i got programs to create...so little time had a test to make up.

Go here... You'll get better answers...

http://www.december212012.com/phpBB2/index...51664afb6ed5988

oh i'm not looking for awnsers i'm looking to make this topic and open dicussion on what everyone else thinks about this, what there thoughts about this is. I know pleanty places i can get awnsers at, but im' making this open dicussion.

REM. It's REM.



Dozens. Literally. Dozens. Use the search function.

--Jaylemurph

Use the search button, this topic has been beaten to death, no need for a new discussion.

Have you ever concidered the Mayans Calender, is just that a Calender? All these special events you
read on this subject were just added in later. The Mayan Calender just simply ends and starts again just our
current calender does.

yes i know about the mayan calender having an end on 2012 Dec 21st, but the one thing that makes it different from ours is ours always have been recreated every year and goes from Jan. 1st till Dec 31st, as where there's ends 21st, so i mean it's just open thought that bout how it ends on different date as from ours does. One thing only that sounds strange though bout those stories just is past stories that talk about whats happen (aka as some say the Bible) or the other religions stories that began years ago during ancient civilization.
This is open forum for everyoen to share thoughts
plus i just revived it possibly thinking there were many about this topic, i just revived cause i was just interested in others thoughts bout what they think and other stuff on this topic.

Well, Dec 21st 2012 will be my dads 57th birthday.

2012; The year Britain (London) hosts the Olympic Games...

London will become the first city to host the modern Olympic Games three times, thats if the planet isn't blown up first.

I'll admit I havn't read to much on this subject because I can't figure out why anyone thinks 12/21/12 will be the end of the world just because some ancient civilizations calender ends on that day...

I thought it was December 12th, 2012 (12/12/12)? That's what the Doomsday documentary I saw said...

Why the hell does there need to be SO many threads about this??? If you search for 2012, you get 4397 results. Do we seriously need more?

December 12,2012 is the day the flying monkeys will emerge from my bum and wreak havoc on all mankind. Fear the Flying Monkeys!!

Hi.

On 12/21/2012, I will either be finishing my holiday shopping or baking cookies....

again...


btw, from what i've heard 2012 is the year the mayan calendar ends. How do we know that the calendar makers just couldn't be bothered to make it go any further...

If things go to planned I'll be at my first year of university on that day.

Heed my warning...the Flying Monkeys are coming!! And I will be in serious need of a good proctologist!!!

That will be my son's 12th birthday! He asked me yesterday if the world was really going to end before he becomes a teenager and how much that would suck.... his words.... What I think sucks are all these wingnuts throwing around these end of the world theories to the point that a child in grade 1 thinks he won't make it to 13! There have been sooooo many end of the world theories that have come and gone, what makes anyone think 2012 will be different?

December 21, 2012 will be followed by....December 22, 2012.

There have been hundreds of specifically-dated end-of-the-world predictions over the past 200 years.

Not a single one of them has ever come true!

Why should December 21, 2012 be any different?

I just told you...flying monkeys will emerge from my bum and take over the world.

Hundreds? More like thousands. And every single one of them has been wrong, down to Jesus saying he'd be back before his original cult members were dead. It takes a lot of credulity to believe an "end of the world" prediction.

--Jaylemurph

hahaha, I thought the same, except....I remember sitting there and I was like, I believe flying monkeys will fly out of muddpuppy's bum on 12-12-12, and I am assuming at 12:12pm...just be ready for that

Srsly?

On Decembe 21st 2012 I expect to be finishing off my Christmas Shopping. Being in the shops at that time can be a bit of a nightmare, but not quite on a par with the end of the world! I suppose it could be the end of the world, there may be flying monkeys, but personally I think flying pigs are more likely!

The last thing that will happen in 2012 is that the world will come to an end.
However, the Mayans saw their own end in the stars, why did they continue their Gregorian Calendar directly to this date, this year? There IS a reason for that. Ask yourself that, and you might come to some realisations.
And they were not, by far, the only civilization to give us this date, of course since all older civ's used different ways to tell time, it's hard to put the dots together.
But they saw, in the stars at this date, something important.
Perhaps it is the solar planetary alignment, which only happens every 13,000 years? Perhaps this will have an impact on humanity, as it was supposed to 13,000 years ago. Perhaps it is the entering into the new zodiac age, the age of Aquarius (as to right now we are in the Age of Piecies, the fish, or Jesus).
Maybe nothing at all, and they just got bored of telling time.

It is interesting in the least that there is going to be a galactic alignment, as well we will be entering a new age, "Aquarius" on this year, that amazingly enough has alot of ancient history behind this controversial date.

It does make you think...

There have certainly been thousands of end-of-the-world predictions since the time of Christ. But I spoke of the past two hundred years rather than two "thousand."



The view that Christ told his listeners that he'd return while they were yet alive is generally regarded as the single most common New Testament mis-reading. Every in-depth theologian (Roman Catholic and Protestant) I've ever questioned about this has agreed that when Christ revealed that "THIS generation shall not pass away" He referred to the people living during the future End-Times generation He'd just been talking about, and NOT the people TO whom he was speaking.

The first time I was informed that we had left the Age of Pisces and already entered the Age of Aquarius was 1962.

You know, i have no true idea. It really kinda depends where you get your source, because i don't think there is an actual way of telling. The movie Zietgeist, for example, explains that the new Age of Aquarius starts in 2150..
It's just a theory.

Well, clearly they're going to say that. It sounds a great deal better than shrugging your shoulders and admitting an allegedly perfect saviour dropped the ball on the prophecy front. Hell, Sitchin gets stuff wrong too, and his followers are almost as quick to correct the "mis-reading". Granted, Sitchin's racket isn't quite as massive as JC's (yet)...

--Jaylemurph

I like your answer. SO comforting.

Actually, the fact that all of these "prophecies of impending doom" have been wrong in the past serves to comfort me a great deal!

As a moderator I thought you would have enough sense and knowledge to realise that the Gregorian calendar was adopted many centuries after the the Mayans failed to see their own demise.
Look... the so-called galactic alignment (which you have mistaken for planetary alignment) ocurred in 1997... I think we are still here.

The age of Aquarius will not happen for 400 years yet!!

Go and do some homework

Mind stating your sources?
I just spent a year doing my homework, all over the world. And none of the information I learned from books, science and other people is anything like what you say.

(Taken from wikipedia, the most basic and unreliable of sources obviously, but it makes the point)
"Many experts believe that the Age of Aquarius has arrived recently or will arrive in the near future. On the other hand, some believe that the Age of Aquarius arrived up to five centuries ago, or will not start until six centuries from now. Various ages are described below, such as the "Age of Aquarius".

Why is your word more exact than the thousands of other guestimates that say we're already in it, we're nearing it, or we're no where near it?

Why is it that when i do several searches for Galatic Alignment 1997, there's is absolutely NOTHING, anywhere, stating anything like this happened. You'd think this would have been a big deal, just like it is a big deal and everyone is talking about it happening in 2012. Which is the possible reason in the first place that the Mayans kept their calandar going until then. And yet, even searching Galactic Alignment 1997, i still get a whole massive chuck of hits for Galactic Alignment of the December solastice in 2012, and yet nothing at all in 1997. How about that. You're right, i got solar and galactic mixed up. But you wanna know what happened in 1997?
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap971204.html

For one night, all the planets in the sky were visible.
That's it. Nothing else at all.



Apparently, i'm not the only one who needs to do some after school.

Most of these people are Greek and even Aramaic scholars and they tell me that the Greek supports the "future generation" interpretation much better than the "present generation."

They also point out that the members of the infant Church themselves don't seem to have resonated with the "present generation" interpretation, since there are no records of disappointment at its "failure." By the time of the Church Fathers in the Second Century the "present generation" reading was no longer tenable (if it had ever been, that is), but they saw neither need nor reason reason to explain it away.

it's just the fact that the mayans calender is ancient and it's much more accurate than our calenders and how it's quiet odd that it ends 21st not 31st

good thoughts, i believe not as it to be the end, but the beginning of a whole new ERA of life, such as if you look at all the other ERA's in the past that have changed us in history, maybe 2012 will be a dramatic change in humanity and well yeah.

hey there's many sources out there on this info so it's really hard to exactly trust certain info we find anywhere on the interenet thus why forums are good thing to share thoughts and ideas.

It's not really that much more accurate.

It ends on Dec. 21 because that's the Winter Solstice.

Look up what solstice means if you don't know.

See, it has to do with astronomical observations, and not on some collection of days squeezed into arbitrary time periods (months) named after some pagan gods like ours is.

The Mayan calendar had several cycles within cycles. That date is when all the cycles come back around to their starting positions. It's based in part on solstices and equinoxes (equini?) so you'd expect it to begin or end on one, rather than on a completely arbitrary date like Dec. 31 the way the Gregorian calendar does.

Harte