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In 2001, Whitley Strieber began to hear of a large number of mutilation murders taking place in northern New Jersey—in fact, within about forty miles of his old cabin. These were absolutely terrifying stories, to say the least. At first, he thought they must be a hoax, but subsequently was forced to place them in the realm of the unknown.

These true stories involved the remains of street people being found mutilated like cattle, on the roofs of buildings . Worse, they had been drowned by being taken to such a depth in the ocean that their lungs showed pressure damage. So these street people were being taken, having their genitals and tongues and eyes and lips cut off, then being plunged into the sea a hundred miles away and drowned, then dropped back on the roofs of buildings.

At first, it appeared that he had a direct line to the coroner involved. Then that collapsed, and he was left unsure about what had happened. He could not believe that the murders were done by some sort of serial killer, because how could a serial killer mutilate people, then drown them by taking them down in the ocean, then bring them back and put them on roofs? It struck him as impossible.


Whitley Strieber has now teamed up with author Craig Spector to make a graphic novel called The Nye Incidents inspired by those true events. Following is a description of The Nye Incidents:

"Lynn Devlin is a medical examiner who thinks she has seen everything Nye County has to throw at her. She copes with methodical, rational logic. But when a grotesque murder of a supposed alien abductee occurs that cannot be solved with her scalpel and microscope, Lynn finds her detachment is shattered, and her dreams haunted by large, dark, oval-shaped eyes. Now, only one thing is certain: There's a killer loose in the alien abductee community... human or otherwise!"

Since the novel is written in comic book form, Whitley Strieber recommends purchasing it at your local comic book store, although the book is also available at Amazon.com.

Click the following link to see a preview of the book in .Pdf format.

http://www.beyondcommunion.com/covers/nye22.pdf


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Mademoiselle
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lmbeharry
Hadn't Whitley Strieber written some strange "alien abduction" book years ago?

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In 2001, Whitley Strieber began to hear of a large number of mutilation murders taking place in northern New Jersey—in fact, within about forty miles of his old cabin. These were absolutely terrifying stories, to say the least. At first, he thought they must be a hoax, but subsequently was forced to place them in the realm of the unknown.

These true stories involved the remains of street people being found mutilated like cattle, on the roofs of buildings . Worse, they had been drowned by being taken to such a depth in the ocean that their lungs showed pressure damage. So these street people were being taken, having their genitals and tongues and eyes and lips cut off, then being plunged into the sea a hundred miles away and drowned, then dropped back on the roofs of buildings.

At first, it appeared that he had a direct line to the coroner involved. Then that collapsed, and he was left unsure about what had happened. He could not believe that the murders were done by some sort of serial killer, because how could a serial killer mutilate people, then drown them by taking them down in the ocean, then bring them back and put them on roofs? It struck him as impossible.


Whitley Strieber has now teamed up with author Craig Spector to make a graphic novel called The Nye Incidents inspired by those true events. Following is a description of The Nye Incidents:

"Lynn Devlin is a medical examiner who thinks she has seen everything Nye County has to throw at her. She copes with methodical, rational logic. But when a grotesque murder of a supposed alien abductee occurs that cannot be solved with her scalpel and microscope, Lynn finds her detachment is shattered, and her dreams haunted by large, dark, oval-shaped eyes. Now, only one thing is certain: There's a killer loose in the alien abductee community... human or otherwise!"

Since the novel is written in comic book form, Whitley Strieber recommends purchasing it at your local comic book store, although the book is also available at Amazon.com.

Click the following link to see a preview of the book in .Pdf format.

http://www.beyondcommunion.com/covers/nye22.pdf


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Isis2200
QUOTE (lmbeharry @ Apr 22 2008, 03:29 AM) *
Hadn't Whitley Strieber written some strange "alien abduction" book years ago?


Yes, he did. He's written both non-fiction and fiction books. I've enjoyed all his books. :-)


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BlackFrost
OMG....
BlackFrost
...ooopppps ~ hit the wrong button and my first message took off before i was done....

OMG.... is that the cover of Whitley Strieber's new book... the picture looks as horrifying as the topic. I heard he asked Craig Spector to co-author with him (maybe to write the gory parts) ... heard them both on Coast to Coast AM. Chilling stuff!
ValkyrieVoice
QUOTE (Isis2200 @ Apr 21 2008, 02:52 PM) *
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In 2001, Whitley Strieber began to hear of a large number of mutilation murders taking place in northern New Jersey—in fact, within about forty miles of his old cabin. These were absolutely terrifying stories, to say the least. At first, he thought they must be a hoax, but subsequently was forced to place them in the realm of the unknown.

These true stories involved the remains of street people being found mutilated like cattle, on the roofs of buildings . Worse, they had been drowned by being taken to such a depth in the ocean that their lungs showed pressure damage. So these street people were being taken, having their genitals and tongues and eyes and lips cut off, then being plunged into the sea a hundred miles away and drowned, then dropped back on the roofs of buildings.

At first, it appeared that he had a direct line to the coroner involved. Then that collapsed, and he was left unsure about what had happened. He could not believe that the murders were done by some sort of serial killer, because how could a serial killer mutilate people, then drown them by taking them down in the ocean, then bring them back and put them on roofs? It struck him as impossible.


Whitley Strieber has now teamed up with author Craig Spector to make a graphic novel called The Nye Incidents inspired by those true events. Following is a description of The Nye Incidents:

"Lynn Devlin is a medical examiner who thinks she has seen everything Nye County has to throw at her. She copes with methodical, rational logic. But when a grotesque murder of a supposed alien abductee occurs that cannot be solved with her scalpel and microscope, Lynn finds her detachment is shattered, and her dreams haunted by large, dark, oval-shaped eyes. Now, only one thing is certain: There's a killer loose in the alien abductee community... human or otherwise!"

Since the novel is written in comic book form, Whitley Strieber recommends purchasing it at your local comic book store, although the book is also available at Amazon.com.

Click the following link to see a preview of the book in .Pdf format.

http://www.beyondcommunion.com/covers/nye22.pdf


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In "comic book form"? Something doesn't add up to "real" in this for me.
goalienan
It's supposed to be taken from true facts rolleyes.gif for ages 15 plus...all I found were comic book versions... original.gif Too bad, it looked like it may have been an interesting story.......
Clovis
I tuned in to the Coast 2 Coast AM show when this was being discussed. It is most puzzling why the main characteristics of cattle mutilations would be appearing on vagrants and then add in they were drowned in the deep sea to top it off. They also mentioned people that were being followed day after day and when someone would go approach the older model car following them they would see what appeared to be foreigners inside. If someone got closer and actually saw any of their faces they would see something not human. His advice was for anyone having this happen to them to leave as far away as possible from their homes and never come back. Still the original topic of why this is happening to vagrants is puzzling...
Isis2200
QUOTE (Clovis @ Apr 28 2008, 11:26 AM) *
I tuned in to the Coast 2 Coast AM show when this was being discussed. It is most puzzling why the main characteristics of cattle mutilations would be appearing on vagrants and then add in they were drowned in the deep sea to top it off. Still the original topic of why this is happening to vagrants is puzzling...


Yeah, Clovis, this is what struck me as odd too. It makes me think that the government may either be doing this or is in cahouts with the aliens.

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They also mentioned people that were being followed day after day and when someone would go approach the older model car following them they would see what appeared to be foreigners inside. If someone got closer and actually saw any of their faces they would see something not human. His advice was for anyone having this happen to them to leave as far away as possible from their homes and never come back.


I heard that part too. Do you remember what the foreigners said to the man in one case when he approached their car and asked them what they wanted with him??? This is why I think we may be dealing with a demonic faction of aliens.

Clovis, what do you think about this?


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Clovis
QUOTE (Isis2200 @ Apr 29 2008, 08:47 PM) *
Yeah, Clovis, this is what struck me as odd too. It makes me think that the government may either be doing this or is in cahouts with the aliens.



I heard that part too. Do you remember what the foreigners said to the man in one case when he approached their car and asked them what they wanted with him??? This is why I think we may be dealing with a demonic faction of aliens.

Clovis, what do you think about this?

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First of all your small signature image of Isis, or is that a winged Maat?, is pretty.

I do believe it is demonic, alien phenomena in itself, and that certain elements of governments are in contact with these entities. Under what guise they appear to the government is a matter of speculation. For that I only have a couple of biblical scriptures to lead me to that conclusion besides the common sense that tells me if these things are happening why are they swept under the rug so to speak?

What the 'foreigners' said to that person...was it not something like 'I am going to cut your head off?' Per the cattle mutilations they happened to my uncle and aunt's ranch in the 80s. I saw all the pictures of the aftermath and my sister was there so she described the night it happened. All she heard was much wind and one cow banging up against the side of the trailer all night mooing away. It was the only animal to survive. There was no blood traces anywhere and all the animals had no blood in them at all.

I tend to wonder if cattle mutilations are related to crop circles. This story though and reports of vagrants does add a whole new layer to it. Times are changing. What do you think about all this? Any theories?
Shadygeneral
Here is a story with pics of a human mutilation case in Brazil:

*WARNING! IT'S PRETTY GRAPHIC*

http://think-aboutit.com/mutilations/Human_Mutilations.htm
Isis2200
QUOTE (Clovis @ May 1 2008, 05:48 PM) *
First of all your small signature image of Isis, or is that a winged Maat?, is pretty.


Thank you, Clovis. Your avatar is pretty cool too! :-)

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I do believe it is demonic, alien phenomena in itself, and that certain elements of governments are in contact with these entities. Under what guise they appear to the government is a matter of speculation. For that I only have a couple of biblical scriptures to lead me to that conclusion besides the common sense that tells me if these things are happening why are they swept under the rug so to speak?


I believe they are demonic too. I wrote a thread on my forum that talks about something I stumbled upon while researching Reptilians (Archons), as it pertains to the Bible. This piece of evidence led me to believe that Satan and his minions are very real and active in our world today.

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What the 'foreigners' said to that person...was it not something like 'I am going to cut your head off?' Per the cattle mutilations they happened to my uncle and aunt's ranch in the 80s. I saw all the pictures of the aftermath and my sister was there so she described the night it happened. All she heard was much wind and one cow banging up against the side of the trailer all night mooing away. It was the only animal to survive. There was no blood traces anywhere and all the animals had no blood in them at all.


Yeah, and I thought it was strange that the person stated they looked asian. He didn't say "alien", but he felt they were alien once he looked into their eyes. He could tell they were not of this world. In my opinion, a person would know right away if they were dealing with an alien gray EXCEPT if the Gray were a hybrid. I don't know if you've ever read David Jacobs's book "The Threat", but in his book he talks about 1st stage 2nd stage and late stage hybrids. According to Jacobs, with each succeeding generation of aliens, i.e. from first to second stage, they may look similar but less like a gray. It could be the man and lady who encountered these beings in two separate accounts could've been dealing with 2nd or third-stage hybrids.

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This story though and reports of vagrants does add a whole new layer to it. Times are changing. What do you think about all this? Any theories?


I still believe that the vagrants are chosen with the help of the government and/or the government in cahouts with the aliens. The failure of the government to seriously follow up on these mutilations and UFO sightings makes me think the military is heavily involved.

And I'm adamant that there's heavy satanic influence in these mutilations, for both human and animal mutilations.


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Clovis
Speaking of reptilians do you consider them as hybrids or just perfectly possessed people? I do not know much about reptilians. Me and my wife were discussing our suspicions regarding (edited name out) just earlier. I may just be scratching but she does not give me a good feeling for some reason.

I will have to try and get that book to read it. So much to read so little time =( But I definitely want to know more concerning hybrids. Are they cloned are they mating with humans? Just reading your post and pondering it is done with a bit of dread knowing 'aliens' are no longer relegated to the realm of the spiritual. Abductions stories always gave me the impression they occurred in the spiritual plane even if they saw material ships and crafts and such. The thought did not strike me when hearing about the 'foreigners' on C2CAM but while reading your post it did strike me that they are now in the physical plane. Truly dreadful.

With the vagrants as I said it completely perplexes me. Are they researching, testing, doing it for the shock value? Anyways if you can elaborate on any of these things it would be most appreciated.
Isis2200
QUOTE (cartman1 @ May 1 2008, 07:05 PM) *
Here is a story with pics of a human mutilation case in Brazil:

*WARNING! IT'S PRETTY GRAPHIC*

http://think-aboutit.com/mutilations/Human_Mutilations.htm


Whoa, Cartman. Yeah, I've heard about that one. When I saw the photos for the first time a couple years ago, I was haunted for weeks. unsure.gif


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Isis2200
QUOTE (Clovis @ May 1 2008, 08:20 PM) *
Speaking of reptilians do you consider them as hybrids or just perfectly possessed people? I do not know much about reptilians. Me and my wife were discussing our suspicions regarding Barbara Walters just earlier. I may just be scratching but she does not give me a good feeling for some reason.


Clovis, I don't like to discuss Reptilians too much on this forum any more because people post on the threads and from my experience here, I know they can be pretty mean. I've been researching reptilians for years, and I would like to invite you to join my forum(link at bottom), and i'm sure we could have some very interesting discussions regarding them. I also have a surprising rather terrifying thread I'd like to show you if you join.

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With the vagrants as I said it completely perplexes me. Are they researching, testing, doing it for the shock
value? Anyways if you can elaborate on any of these things it would be most appreciated.


My belief is that most of the mutilations are being done for the shock value(and I'm not talking about shocking the public per se). Most of the researching and testing of humans is done in underground labs.


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Clovis
Thank you for the invitation and I will join very soon. I am equally likewise unwilling to discuss Reptillians and even wrote the name of the person I suspected with great hesitation and have since edited out of my post. People can be harsh as well but I can understand their views even if at times I disagree with their expressions of disbelief once they cross over into cruelty. Sadly. Anyways cannot wait to fully sign up at your forums.
Isis2200
QUOTE (Clovis @ May 1 2008, 08:50 PM) *
Thank you for the invitation and I will join very soon. Anyways cannot wait to fully sign up at your forums.


Although I don't claim to be a know-it-all by any means because there's a lot I'm still learning, I've made it sort of a mission of mine to let people know about these Reptilian Archons and the part they play in not only mutilations but the rule of our very society.

I'm so happy you plan to join. :-)


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StarOcean1983
It seems kind of strange that the aliens would mutilate someone and then take them to the bottom of the ocean and then drop them off on the roof of a building.
Wouldn't it make more sense if the person was abducted and then taken deep under the ocean, mutilated during experimentation or whatever and then dropped on top of a building?
It is obvious that whoever (or whatever) did this wanted people to know about what they were doing because they could have easily just left the bodies under the sea and they would never be found again.
I have been trying to find information about these mutilations that the "Nye Incidents" are based on and I cannot find anything.
If anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
I like Whitley Strieber and after I read communion, I cannot look at the subject of alien abductions the same ever again.
I am pretty much convinced that what he wrote in that book was the truth.
Which makes me wonder why he would publish this new story in the format of a comic book rather than an actual novel?
I like comic books as well as novels but to me, publishing this as a comic makes it seem like he takes it a little less serious than his other work.
Either way I am still going to order a copy and read it but this is such a bizarre story that I would like to learn some more facts about the real life events that inspired this.
If the government were involved then I am sure there was some kind of conspiracy or something to cover it all up anyway and we may never know the truth for as long as we live.
Clovis
Comic books have a way of reaching a larger audience since the material would be more accessible. The underwater business makes me wonder if this has anything to do with theories that aliens are not really based in outer space but instead under the sea. I do not believe they are from other planets myself but have not heard too much about the under water theory but I do consider them inter-dimensional so having to breathe underwater would not pose a problem for them but it would for anyone they take under.
Shankpin
QUOTE (cartman1 @ May 1 2008, 06:05 PM) *
Here is a story with pics of a human mutilation case in Brazil:

*WARNING! IT'S PRETTY GRAPHIC*

http://think-aboutit.com/mutilations/Human_Mutilations.htm


I have to honestly say that I don't believe in any other world critters.. but now I've seen these photos.. I'm not sure what to think. Psychologically speaking (considering the photos are not manipulated, and the information is correct regarding the autopsy report..) it doesn't compare to anything that I'm aware of profiling wise.
Solarbite
QUOTE (cartman1 @ May 1 2008, 06:05 PM) *
Here is a story with pics of a human mutilation case in Brazil:

*WARNING! IT'S PRETTY GRAPHIC*

http://think-aboutit.com/mutilations/Human_Mutilations.htm


Next time it says: WARNING PRETTY GRAPHIC I'm not going to open the link... grin2.gif gaping bloody buttholes bother me alot.
StarOcean1983
Wow, you were not kidding when you said the images were pretty graphic!
Holy crap!
If that was done by a person or persons, then they are some seriously sick individuals who need to be tracked down and put to death right away.
Well, at least you pointed out what I was looking for.
But after seeing those pics, I kind of regret asking about it.
Then again, this is the reality that we are forced to live with.

Yeah, I guess comics can reach a much broader audience because I know some people are put off by big thick novels.
I also find it strange that its called the "Nye" incidents because (as I am sure some of you know) it just so happens that Art Bell lives in Nye county which is in Nevada.
But I thought that Whitley said it happened in New Jersey?
Is this some kind of inside joke or something?
I would not think it would be very funny considering that these mutilations are real.
Anyways, I agree that alien beings could be inter-dimensional because no matter how advanced technology gets, it would still take a long time to get from one side of the galaxy to the other.
They must use some other method of travel that we cannot imagine or that we are just over-looking.

If these mutilations are caused by alien beings then what are we supposed to think of them?
Many abduction cases claim that they are given new insights into things they never knew and others are told to help protect the environment and things like that.
Is it possible that there is a race of malevolent aliens?
Because this is just the complete opposite of what most people say about aliens.
Well anyways, thats my two cents for now.
Over and out!
kraken
QUOTE (Isis2200 @ Apr 21 2008, 08:52 PM) *
In 2001, Whitley Strieber began to hear of a large number of mutilation murders taking place in northern New Jersey—in fact, within about forty miles of his old cabin. These were absolutely terrifying stories, to say the least. At first, he thought they must be a hoax, but subsequently was forced to place them in the realm of the unknown.

Are there any news articles to give these 'hearsay' stories some validity, because i can't seem to find any, although putting Whitley Strieber and comic book in the same sentence i think just about sums this fictional story up. mellow.gif

sincerely: Kraken
theSOURCE
I really hope no one is taking this latest nonsense from Strieber seriously. He provides absolutely nothing to corroborate his claims even on his own web site. He says that he "heard stories" about a coroner who dealt with the mutilated remains, but then claims that said coroner had been "silenced". In fact, he admits to never having spoken with the mysterious coroner at all. How convenient for Strieber. No links, no witnesses, and no documented official reports make this one smell like a 20 lb cod rotting in the hot summer sun.

Also, by not only fictionalizing the account but also making it into a comic book shows that not even he believes the story is true (unless he's more whacked out than I thought).

It makes me wonder if he was listening to Intense Mutilation (a band out of New Jersey - interesting coincidence) when he got the inspiration to write this story. rolleyes.gif

Sweetpumper
I'll check this out!
Isis2200
QUOTE (StarOcean1983 @ May 4 2008, 05:07 PM) *
It seems kind of strange that the aliens would mutilate someone and then take them to the bottom of the ocean and then drop them off on the roof of a building.
Wouldn't it make more sense if the person was abducted and then taken deep under the ocean, mutilated during experimentation or whatever and then dropped on top of a building?


Yeah, this is what is believed could be happening. At first I thought it was strange. Why would entities take them to a deep-level area of the ocean UNTIL it began to make sense. It is believed that there are alien bases under the ocean so this would make sense that the humans Are being taken to the bases, being mutilated and returned atop buildings rather than being the victims of random purposeful drownings. It was also believed that cattle were also removed from the initial location, mutilated, and returned......sometimes with evidence of having been dropped from high in the air.

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It is obvious that whoever (or whatever) did this wanted people to know about what they were doing because they could have easily just left the bodies under the sea and they would never be found again.


Yeah, this is exactly what Whitley and Dr. Leir were saying in a recent interview. But the question is Why do they want us to know what they're doing? Is it a cat and mouse game like "I'm doing this, catch me if you can?" or is it they're trying to toy with us like "I'm doing this and there's nothing you can do about it."

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I have been trying to find information about these mutilations that the "Nye Incidents" are based on and I cannot find anything.


Whitley stated that usually any type of murders are added to the national database, but for some strange reason, these were not added. Both Whitley and Dr. Leir found out about them by talking to people who had done autopsies on these people.

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If the government were involved then I am sure there was some kind of conspiracy or something to cover it all up anyway and we may never know the truth for as long as we live.


My opinion is that the government is involved. If they're not the ones doing this, then they are allowing it to happen. The reason I believe this is that when investigators tried to talk to people regarding the "murders", they were later informed by the interviewees that they were instructed not to discuss the case further. This seems highly suspicious to me.

StarOcean, if you would like more information about this, here is a link:

http://ashiana.conforums.com/index.cgi?boa...2572&start=


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HollyDolly
sad.gif If they are indeed mutilating and experiementing on humans,the homeless would be an ideal choice. Many of these people if they have living relatives,haven't seen them in years.They drift from place to place and town to town,so there is indeed a great deal of difficulty in locating them. They won't have family come knocking on police doors looking for answers.Think of all the people who disappear from earthly causes who are never found. Some become murder victims,
women and children kidnaped and sold into the sex trade industry, others disappear becuase they want a new life somewhere,etc.Many of these people are never found.if ever. The homeless are rip for the pickings.
Are there good and bad aliens yes. There are some who believe that aliens are actually angels and demons,just coming to us in a different guise. Shifting shapes if you will.
The bible mentions the sons of God coming down from heaven and mating with the daughters of Man because they saw them pleasing to the eye and flesh. Certainly the DNA would have to be compatable for this to happen. Some feel this is what gave a jump start to civilization.The Bible mentions the Watchers,Nephlim or what ever you want to call them.
They were said to be the fathers of the giants. There have been reports of giant skeletons being reported in the past,especially in the United States,not sure about overseas. Could some of the reports been hoaxes,yes, but I'm sure there were many that were not.

Yes,there have been reports of ufos at sea. I seem to recall one of the British Royal Family,I think Prince George,late King of England saw one while on a british naval ship in the Indian Ocean.
There have also been other reports of mysteries lights under the sea.
Don't know really how much the government is invovled in all this,but it is fascinating to say the least.
Isis2200
QUOTE (HollyDolly @ May 23 2008, 12:09 PM) *
sad.gif If they are indeed mutilating and experiementing on humans,the homeless would be an ideal choice. Many of these people if they have living relatives,haven't seen them in years.They drift from place to place and town to town,so there is indeed a great deal of difficulty in locating them. They won't have family come knocking on police doors looking for answers.Think of all the people who disappear from earthly causes who are never found. Some become murder victims,
women and children kidnaped and sold into the sex trade industry, others disappear becuase they want a new life somewhere,etc.Many of these people are never found.if ever. The homeless are rip for the pickings.
Are there good and bad aliens yes. There are some who believe that aliens are actually angels and demons,just coming to us in a different guise. Shifting shapes if you will.
The bible mentions the sons of God coming down from heaven and mating with the daughters of Man because they saw them pleasing to the eye and flesh. Certainly the DNA would have to be compatable for this to happen. Some feel this is what gave a jump start to civilization.The Bible mentions the Watchers,Nephlim or what ever you want to call them.
They were said to be the fathers of the giants. There have been reports of giant skeletons being reported in the past,especially in the United States,not sure about overseas. Could some of the reports been hoaxes,yes, but I'm sure there were many that were not.

Yes,there have been reports of ufos at sea. I seem to recall one of the British Royal Family,I think Prince George,late King of England saw one while on a british naval ship in the Indian Ocean.
There have also been other reports of mysteries lights under the sea.
Don't know really how much the government is invovled in all this,but it is fascinating to say the least.



HollyDolly, I feel as though I had written this post myself. :-)

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Are there good and bad aliens yes. There are some who believe that aliens are actually angels and demons,just coming to us in a different guise. Shifting shapes if you will.


After researching the Reptilians and the Grays for years, I would say this is exactly what they are.

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The bible mentions the sons of God coming down from heaven and mating with the daughters of Man because they saw them pleasing to the eye and flesh. Certainly the DNA would have to be compatable for this to happen. Some feel this is what gave a jump start to civilization.The Bible mentions the Watchers,Nephlim or what ever you want to call them.


I think this is happening again....mixing their seed with the daughters of Man. I definitely believe in the Watchers, and from what I've read there are benevolent Watchers and malevolent Watchers.

And I believe the government is more involved than people think. This is just my own personal opinion.


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