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Mad Hatter
NOTE: This theory is my personal opinion. No scientific evidence is there to suggest this. I am putting this out there for discussion.

What if Bigfeet are "lost time travelers?" I know those who read this will think I am crazy, but Bigfeet have been linked to Neanderthal-man and other primitive equivalents. Science suggests that time travel is only possible through "nakedness." In other words, people cannot time travel unless they're naked, as clothes seemingly don't have the properties to "disintegrate" at the speed of light. Now, Bigfeet, according to reports, are hairy and very tall. What if time travel has side-effects, like growth in height and added hair? Look, I am putting this out there because I heard of this from a professor of mine and thought it was interesting. Take from it what you wish.

WraithGod
That's a little out there for me, considering I don't see time travel as a very plausible concept for any civilization, nor a profitable one. And said time travel would probably have to cause insanity or mental regression/r******ation of some sort, because such a super-intelligent species would seek out civilization, aka humans, and would not exhibit such bestial behaviour.

I think a figurative time-travel - a hominid species that simply didn't advance the way humans did and appear primitive - would be more plausible should Bigfoot be found to exist.
The Maharaja
Time traveling bigfoot,hmm thats right up there with ninja polar bears
snuffypuffer
Did your professor get the "clothes don't time-travel well" idea from Terminator? Because that's the first thing I thought of when I read this.

I think if you were to travel back in time, you'd go back to a time and place that you found interesting. Going back to the middle of bfe and going r******ed/feral doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Orcseeker
QUOTE (WraithGod @ Apr 22 2008, 12:36 PM) *
That's a little out there for me, considering I don't see time travel as a very plausible concept for any civilization, nor a profitable one. And said time travel would probably have to cause insanity or mental regression/r******ation of some sort, because such a super-intelligent species would seek out civilization, aka humans, and would not exhibit such bestial behaviour.

I think a figurative time-travel - a hominid species that simply didn't advance the way humans did and appear primitive - would be more plausible should Bigfoot be found to exist.

well, you wouldnt really know if youve timed traveled walking in a snowy area.

QUOTE (snuffypuffer @ Apr 22 2008, 02:47 PM) *
Did your professor get the "clothes don't time-travel well" idea from Terminator? Because that's the first thing I thought of when I read this.

I think if you were to travel back in time, you'd go back to a time and place that you found interesting. Going back to the middle of bfe and going r******ed/feral doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

the question is, where did terminator get that from?
lmbeharry
QUOTE (Mad Hatter @ Apr 22 2008, 02:27 AM) *
NOTE: This theory is my personal opinion. No scientific evidence is there to suggest this. I am putting this out there for discussion.

What if Bigfeet are "lost time travelers?" I know those who read this will think I am crazy, but Bigfeet have been linked to Neanderthal-man and other primitive equivalents. Science suggests that time travel is only possible through "nakedness." In other words, people cannot time travel unless they're naked, as clothes seemingly don't have the properties to "disintegrate" at the speed of light. Now, Bigfeet, according to reports, are hairy and very tall. What if time travel has side-effects, like growth in height and added hair? Look, I am putting this out there because I heard of this from a professor of mine and thought it was interesting. Take from it what you wish.

But most space-time philosophy discounts time travel to go backwards (to avoid the dilemma of affecting your own conception, in which case you would not have been alive to have traveled backwards in the first place) - unless you consider the multiverse (which is not true time travel, it's really travel to parallel dimensions). Anyway, you are writing about The Thirteenth Warrior meeting Terminator.
Blind Atrocity
I have to agree, time-travel does seem a bit far out.
Elite
QUOTE (Mad Hatter @ Apr 22 2008, 02:27 AM) *
NOTE: This theory is my personal opinion. No scientific evidence is there to suggest this. I am putting this out there for discussion.

What if Bigfeet are "lost time travelers?" I know those who read this will think I am crazy, but Bigfeet have been linked to Neanderthal-man and other primitive equivalents. Science suggests that time travel is only possible through "nakedness." In other words, people cannot time travel unless they're naked, as clothes seemingly don't have the properties to "disintegrate" at the speed of light. Now, Bigfeet, according to reports, are hairy and very tall. What if time travel has side-effects, like growth in height and added hair? Look, I am putting this out there because I heard of this from a professor of mine and thought it was interesting. Take from it what you wish.

plz explain this
also if clothes were 'disintegrated' by time travel then wouldnt the time traveler disentegrate as well
this whole nakedness thing sounds to much like the terminator to me
Nocturnal
QUOTE (Orcseeker @ Apr 22 2008, 02:24 AM) *
the question is, where did terminator get that from?


Probably as a means to explain the plot hole for why the human and terminator don't bring back advanced technology to deal with each other.

Also to give an excuse for the scene with the naked terminator beating up the gang members for clothes just to show how bad a** he is.
bogcreeper
QUOTE (Mad Hatter @ Apr 21 2008, 09:27 PM) *
NOTE: This theory is my personal opinion. No scientific evidence is there to suggest this. I am putting this out there for discussion.

What if Bigfeet are "lost time travelers?" I know those who read this will think I am crazy, but Bigfeet have been linked to Neanderthal-man and other primitive equivalents. Science suggests that time travel is only possible through "nakedness." In other words, people cannot time travel unless they're naked, as clothes seemingly don't have the properties to "disintegrate" at the speed of light. Now, Bigfeet, according to reports, are hairy and very tall. What if time travel has side-effects, like growth in height and added hair? Look, I am putting this out there because I heard of this from a professor of mine and thought it was interesting. Take from it what you wish.

Time rifts at sacred sites let bigfoot come and go as they please. I wonder how many people have walked through a time rift. Interesting theory, illogical but interesting.
Eric Raven The Skeptic
QUOTE (Mad Hatter @ Apr 21 2008, 08:27 PM) *
NOTE: This theory is my personal opinion. No scientific evidence is there to suggest this. I am putting this out there for discussion.

What if Bigfeet are "lost time travelers?" I know those who read this will think I am crazy, but Bigfeet have been linked to Neanderthal-man and other primitive equivalents. Science suggests that time travel is only possible through "nakedness." In other words, people cannot time travel unless they're naked, as clothes seemingly don't have the properties to "disintegrate" at the speed of light. Now, Bigfeet, according to reports, are hairy and very tall. What if time travel has side-effects, like growth in height and added hair? Look, I am putting this out there because I heard of this from a professor of mine and thought it was interesting. Take from it what you wish.

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Then maybe your professor has been hitting the weed.
wolfknight
What no showers where they come from. I think they are interdimensional creatures
counterveil
QUOTE (Nocturnal @ Apr 22 2008, 10:27 AM) *
Probably as a means to explain the plot hole for why the human and terminator don't bring back advanced technology to deal with each other.

Also to give an excuse for the scene with the naked terminator beating up the gang members for clothes just to show how bad a** he is.


I'm with Nocturnal; especially the bit about the naked terminator acquiring clothes via naked-Arnold-badassery
Celumnaz
I've read a few things where they're supposedly interdimentional creatures. Also some where they're aliens that have ships coughwookie. Time travellers isn't That wierd.
The Invaluable Darkness
To me time travel would be impossible period just becuase time is a man made thing. There was no idea of time before man came up with it, time is just an idea nothing more. That's my opinion anyway.
Armite
QUOTE (Celumnaz @ Apr 22 2008, 02:41 PM) *
I've read a few things where they're supposedly interdimentional creatures. Also some where they're aliens that have ships coughwookie. Time travellers isn't That wierd.

Maybe Patty is Chewies girlfriend. Maybe his sister. Mother-in-law? Hm...
Otterclaw
I don't think there will ever be such thing as time travel. I mean just think of time travel and then say "Okay...how wouldl would you be able to do that?" You can't. You'd have to take all the molecules around you and stuff them through time or something, and time is ireversible. Time isn't really a thing that you can just stuff people through, it is just a word that we have for the way things seem to just go...on. People die, things wilt, other things change, you can't change that. You can't just go and zap molecules, and "voila." Think of all the things you would have to change for that. And even if it was possible, people surely couldn't survive while going in the machine.
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (The Invaluable Darkness @ Apr 22 2008, 04:55 PM) *
To me time travel would be impossible period just becuase time is a man made thing. There was no idea of time before man came up with it, time is just an idea nothing more. That's my opinion anyway.

Some old guy named Albert Einstein disagrees with your opinion.
Shankpin
That's far-fetched.
Grey Area
QUOTE (Mad Hatter @ Apr 22 2008, 02:27 AM) *
NOTE: This theory is my personal opinion. No scientific evidence is there to suggest this. I am putting this out there for discussion.

Science suggests that time travel is only possible through "nakedness." In other words, people cannot time travel unless they're naked, as clothes seemingly don't have the properties to "disintegrate" at the speed of light.


Eeerm Yeeah okay.

Tbh science has never suggested anyhting of the sort. The concept of time travel is well known within the media, but as for science well its kinda universally accepted as a theoretical impossibility in terms of the popular conception of the 'time machine.' It is generally held that you can time travel in fashion if you were able to travel at reletivistic speeds, but only forwards in time.

As to clothes, well if you could explain a bit more about why you have to 'disintegrate' at the speed of light would be helpful and what is it about the properties of clothes that prevents them from travelling in time, it is also probably worthy of note that clothes are very diverse in their constituent componants. so a man in a 100% wool jumper would lose the jumper? So then if we sent a sheep time travelling would they be without their wooly coat?

I love the mystery surrounding Bigfoot, its plausable, and reletively harmless. My Grandfather used to have a friend who was about 6ft 6'' and very very hairy, grotesquely so. I am pretty sure he wasn't a time traveller, but if you stripped him down and sent him into the wilderness he would have been a prime candidate for Bigfoot.
fatrobot
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Apr 23 2008, 06:26 AM) *
Some old guy named Albert Einstein disagrees with your opinion.


einstein was a time traveler, thats the only explanation for his hair

Undeadskeptic
QUOTE (fatrobot @ Apr 24 2008, 01:04 AM) *
einstein was a time traveler, thats the only explanation for his hair


(Appluades)
BigDaddy_GFS
QUOTE (The Maharaja @ Apr 22 2008, 06:40 AM) *
Time traveling bigfoot,hmm thats right up there with ninja polar bears


What's up with you unbelievers? Ninja Polar Bears DID EXIST once, though in small numbers. They were a last-ditch effort by Imperial Japan to create a biological weapon that could tilt the tide of WWII in their favor.

It could've worked, too. They had at least two companies of NPBs deployed in the Aleutian Islands in Sapt 1944. However, the Canadians, too, were working on Bio-Weapons. Their experiments in cybernetics created the Beaveroni, a hideous pairing of genetically-engineered -- and terribly ill-tempered -- beavers and armor-plated Zambonis equipped with 4 .50-cal machine guns and a turret-mounted flamethrower. While the details remain shrouded in mystery, there are rumors of a horrid three-day battle in which all combatants eventually perished.

After that, the US and Great Britain scrapped their plans to develop rocket-powered flying squirrels.
bball
When did they replace the definition of 'interesting' with the definition of 'insane'?
Blue Water
It's an interesting concept, but it's impossible to know either way at the moment. I think it's more like a traveler of different dimensions, as some believe, but more likely than that simply another species which we have yet to discover (or yet to accept.)
bigdog112
QUOTE (Blind Atrocity @ Apr 22 2008, 01:17 PM) *
I have to agree, time-travel does seem a bit far out.


wouldn't any other explanations even the more widely believed one be thought of the same by most people?

I would assume you would have to time travel naked considering you might get pulled into atom's then reintegrated together again at you're disiered time. Being naked would help make sure you don't get you're shoe in you're head when you put back together.
Otterclaw
QUOTE (Grey Area @ Apr 23 2008, 07:10 AM) *
Eeerm Yeeah okay.

Tbh science has never suggested anyhting of the sort. The concept of time travel is well known within the media, but as for science well its kinda universally accepted as a theoretical impossibility in terms of the popular conception of the 'time machine.' It is generally held that you can time travel in fashion if you were able to travel at reletivistic speeds, but only forwards in time.

As to clothes, well if you could explain a bit more about why you have to 'disintegrate' at the speed of light would be helpful and what is it about the properties of clothes that prevents them from travelling in time, it is also probably worthy of note that clothes are very diverse in their constituent componants. so a man in a 100% wool jumper would lose the jumper? So then if we sent a sheep time travelling would they be without their wooly coat?

I love the mystery surrounding Bigfoot, its plausable, and reletively harmless. My Grandfather used to have a friend who was about 6ft 6'' and very very hairy, grotesquely so. I am pretty sure he wasn't a time traveller, but if you stripped him down and sent him into the wilderness he would have been a prime candidate for Bigfoot.

Eh hah! LOL! This topic is very interesting and funny indeed.
Otterclaw
QUOTE (BigDaddy_GFS @ Apr 26 2008, 08:57 PM) *
What's up with you unbelievers? Ninja Polar Bears DID EXIST once, though in small numbers. They were a last-ditch effort by Imperial Japan to create a biological weapon that could tilt the tide of WWII in their favor.

It could've worked, too. They had at least two companies of NPBs deployed in the Aleutian Islands in Sapt 1944. However, the Canadians, too, were working on Bio-Weapons. Their experiments in cybernetics created the Beaveroni, a hideous pairing of genetically-engineered -- and terribly ill-tempered -- beavers and armor-plated Zambonis equipped with 4 .50-cal machine guns and a turret-mounted flamethrower. While the details remain shrouded in mystery, there are rumors of a horrid three-day battle in which all combatants eventually perished.

After that, the US and Great Britain scrapped their plans to develop rocket-powered flying squirrels.

I know, I mean, come on! How do people not know about that? And the Australian Jumbo Crocs? And the Maine Angry Swamp Moose? It was shocking when I watched the battle between them on my wireless set. How did people not notice jumbo crocs stomping around with huge rocket launchers and full spiked armor from the 1500s? And the moose were incredible! Full speeding rocket boots on their hooves, with huge electro-magnet antlers...wow. Well, when the armor was attracted to the swamp moose's magnet antlers...it wasn't pretty.
The Invaluable Darkness
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Apr 23 2008, 12:26 AM) *
Some old guy named Albert Einstein disagrees with your opinion.


Of course he would it's only my opinion, but time travel is only based off speculation there isn't any proof that it's possible (none that I know of anyway).
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (The Invaluable Darkness @ Apr 27 2008, 10:40 AM) *
Of course he would it's only my opinion, but time travel is only based off speculation there isn't any proof that it's possible (none that I know of anyway).

Your opinion is a fine one!

Einstein's legacy is a universe in which space and time are woven into a single fabric. Space and time are inseparable. Traveling through space is traveling through time. Now, if I can just locate Mr. Peabody, things will be peachy!
Otterclaw
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Apr 27 2008, 11:44 AM) *
Your opinion is a fine one!

Einstein's legacy is a universe in which space and time are woven into a single fabric. Space and time are inseparable. Traveling through space is traveling through time. Now, if I can just locate Mr. Peabody, things will be peachy!

Hmm, perhaps I should study up on Einstien a little more. I have heard many theories about "fabrics" and "rips" in space and time, but I never really took it very seriously. It's all so confusing, really, the concept of time. If you just start thinking about it, it's so overwhelming.

I really doubt that Bigfoot has anything to do with time travel, though. I just think he is an undiscovered species of ape/human.
Syntax
QUOTE (Mad Hatter @ Apr 22 2008, 11:27 AM) *
NOTE: This theory is my personal opinion. No scientific evidence is there to suggest this. I am putting this out there for discussion.

What if Bigfeet are "lost time travelers?" I know those who read this will think I am crazy, but Bigfeet have been linked to Neanderthal-man and other primitive equivalents. Science suggests that time travel is only possible through "nakedness." In other words, people cannot time travel unless they're naked, as clothes seemingly don't have the properties to "disintegrate" at the speed of light. Now, Bigfeet, according to reports, are hairy and very tall. What if time travel has side-effects, like growth in height and added hair? Look, I am putting this out there because I heard of this from a professor of mine and thought it was interesting. Take from it what you wish.


While time travel is a bit far fetched, and the fact that Neanderthal's were a seperate species of human that resided in Europe only....

your post raises some interesting ideas, more so because it gets my mind thinking on the fact that Bigfoot might not be a physical entity at all...but perhaps one of those many cryptids that reside in Keelian law of Ultra-terrestrials...

take this quote for example:

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In my travels I noted odd variations in the name game. Spectacular sightings and landings occurred at places called Misery Bay, Misery Point, Mount Misery and Misery Hollow. In each case I found the places had been so named because, logically, weird and miserable things had been happening in them for many years - Hauntings, Murders, Strange Noises, bizzare phantasms, disappearances of children and animals without explanation. Sightings in Point Pleasant West Virginia were followed up by sightings in Point Pleasant New Jersey. Sometimes UFO and monster appearances will occur in two widely scattered places with the same name at the same time. - John Keel 'The Eighth Tower' (1977).


We can even attribute this 'name game' with places associated with Bigfoot.

Take this for example:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=123602

Hills Point is located a close distance to Point Pleasant, the original sighting of Mothman in 1966; another supposed cryptid that leaves very little evidence of its journey through our world except visual sightings.

Patrick Harpur in his book Daimonic Reality also mentions a bizzare bigfoot encounter revolving around a small farmhouse that was terrorised by an ethereal invisible creature that would bang on the walls of the house during the evening. The encounters were usually followed by a visual sighting at long distance of a tall black hair covered creature...this is not typical bigfoot behaviour that can be attributed to how we believe a bigfoot should act. Bigfoot lore is littered with sightings such as this....hikers who could feel the prescence more so than see it.

The witnesses also play a big part as well; Crytozoologist Loren Coleman and Ufologist John Keel oddly note that many witnesses share the same family name, and in the mothman case of 1966 - 1967, mothman witnesses actually shared bloodlines with UFO witnesses in New York during the great east coast UFO flap of the early 70's.

This shows intelligence on behalf of the cryptid....something that places it far above a terrestrial animal, especially considering they are able to orchestrate these plans under our technologically advanced noses.
HoaxenToxen
QUOTE (Syntax @ Apr 27 2008, 11:48 PM) *
While time travel is a bit far fetched, and the fact that Neanderthal's were a seperate species of human that resided in Europe only....

your post raises some interesting ideas, more so because it gets my mind thinking on the fact that Bigfoot might not be a physical entity at all...but perhaps one of those many cryptids that reside in Keelian law of Ultra-terrestrials...

take this quote for example:



We can even attribute this 'name game' with places associated with Bigfoot.

Take this for example:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=123602

Hills Point is located a close distance to Point Pleasant, the original sighting of Mothman in 1966; another supposed cryptid that leaves very little evidence of its journey through our world except visual sightings.

Patrick Harpur in his book Daimonic Reality also mentions a bizzare bigfoot encounter revolving around a small farmhouse that was terrorised by an ethereal invisible creature that would bang on the walls of the house during the evening. The encounters were usually followed by a visual sighting at long distance of a tall black hair covered creature...this is not typical bigfoot behaviour that can be attributed to how we believe a bigfoot should act. Bigfoot lore is littered with sightings such as this....hikers who could feel the prescence more so than see it.

The witnesses also play a big part as well; Crytozoologist Loren Coleman and Ufologist John Keel oddly note that many witnesses share the same family name, and in the mothman case of 1966 - 1967, mothman witnesses actually shared bloodlines with UFO witnesses in New York during the great east coast UFO flap of the early 70's.

This shows intelligence on behalf of the cryptid....something that places it far above a terrestrial animal, especially considering they are able to orchestrate these plans under our technologically advanced noses.



put it in me......... wub.gif
Syntax
QUOTE (HoaxenToxen @ Apr 28 2008, 03:19 PM) *
put it in me......... wub.gif


HA!

on another note, i'm currently compiling some really bizzare Bigfoot encounters (with the sources provided) that i'll post up at a later time. One that comes off the top of my head involves an encounter in my home town of the Gold Coast, Australia.

The Gold Coast Hinterland far beyond the suburbs has produced its own plethora of strange Bigfoot-esque encounters; one calm summer evening in 1980, three friends were camped along Tallebudgera creek when they noticed a large black figure approach them from the sand. Suddenly it charged them and took a few swings at one of the unlucky campers with its arms. After the attack, the black hairy form disappeared and the campers quickly packed up and moved to a different location.

I found this encounter lodged arbitrarily in the back of a UFO compendium. Upon reading on, I noted that the witnesses had observed strange arial lights for several hours beforehand. I'll try my best to find the original source again.

Another keen observation I made, was that the majority of Australian bigfoot sightings were located in areas that had high elevations above sea level; the Gold Coast Hinterland and NSW's Blue Mountain regions are prime examples. Secondly, if you look at these areas on a magnetic map (available from your local State geographical department website) you notice that they are highlighted red, designated as an indicator for high concerntrations of magentic disturbance.
Otterclaw
Wow, thank you for all that info, Syntax. That raises some very interesting questions and theories. The "name game" is especially interesting. It makes you want to look closely into all of these accounts.
Syntax
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ Apr 29 2008, 08:23 AM) *
Wow, thank you for all that info, Syntax. That raises some very interesting questions and theories. The "name game" is especially interesting. It makes you want to look closely into all of these accounts.


well it certainly does get the mind working
makaya325
QUOTE (Mad Hatter @ Apr 22 2008, 01:27 AM) *
NOTE: This theory is my personal opinion. No scientific evidence is there to suggest this. I am putting this out there for discussion.

What if Bigfeet are "lost time travelers?" I know those who read this will think I am crazy, but Bigfeet have been linked to Neanderthal-man and other primitive equivalents. Science suggests that time travel is only possible through "nakedness." In other words, people cannot time travel unless they're naked, as clothes seemingly don't have the properties to "disintegrate" at the speed of light. Now, Bigfeet, according to reports, are hairy and very tall. What if time travel has side-effects, like growth in height and added hair? Look, I am putting this out there because I heard of this from a professor of mine and thought it was interesting. Take from it what you wish.


stop the comedy here! that theory damages the reputation of serious theorys regarding it.

time travel hasnt even been proved possible. the inter dimensional being theory, which is crazy, has more crediblity than this!

why cant it just be an animal that learned somehow to avoid people after witnessing slaughtering of its species by humans 10000's of yrs ago
Col. Kurtz
I think id rather face bigfoot than a naked arnold the terminator saying,,give me your clothes.Btw anyone notice bill paxson as one of the 3 punks?
Camozotz
Its an interesting theory, but theres no evidence to suggest this at all. I dont think its correct.
Syntax
QUOTE (makaya325 @ May 3 2008, 05:50 AM) *
why cant it just be an animal that learned somehow to avoid people after witnessing slaughtering of its species by humans 10000's of yrs ago


This raises two points that are hard to avoid:

1. The ability to avoid detection shows an incredible amount of intelligence, perhaps far more than ours to avoid detection by us with a wide variety of technological equipment. Some will bring up the argument, "But there are places in the world that are still yet undiscovered" etc etc. We are not talking about the foothills of Madagascar or the tundra of Greenland here, it is the scrub of California and the farmlands of West Virginia. The fact that there are sightings in the first place means they traverse in areas where humans have populations, or where humans have access to woodland on foot. If they were somehow able to avoid detection by utilising areas of the woods that we can't see, then, we wouldn't be seeing them in the first place.

2. After thousands (actually even more, our ancestor Cro-magnon man was a dominant species of human 40,000 years ago) of years, there is no existence of it on the fossil record. There is no field devoted to it in paleontology.

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