Check it:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352241,00.html

Repoman, this is not the place to post this. I ask the Moderators to move this post.

wow this is cool

I can understand why Repoman thought the Space News forum was the correct place to post this, but I tend to agree with Mekorig.

I am moving it to the Science & Technology forum, where similar posts topics have tended to be posted.

Edited to add:
rather than post a request to move a topic within the thread itself, where it may take a long time to be seen by a moderator, or even missed altogether, a better option is to use the report button where it will be brought to our attention more rapidly.

Read this, this morning on Foxnews. This is going to drive some people nuts.

Same article.

What only five replies on this subject? If you say that the temps are going up your the "messiah" anyone saying that it is not human caused "has an agenda" to say that it is time to brace for an iceage, your completely nuts. It's not that people cannot think for themselves, but sometimes I believe that they should'nt.

Sorry, I thought the discussion by an astronomer about sunspot activity and their potential ramifications belonged in astronomy.

There are statistical hiccups in any data. I've heard this claim before. What HAPPENED was that several areas in the northern hemisphere had a particularly cool winter. Lets see if this continues for more than a few months - I very much doubt it.

From the link/article;

"This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930," Chapman wrote in The Australian Wednesday. "If the temperature does not soon recover, we will have to conclude that global warming is over."


Bullsh*t!
Here in Australia for example the we've had the worst droughts & heat waves this year in recorded history with stats clearly showing from previous years it's rapidly getting worse. I hope they figured it wrong tho and that it might be just 'natural global weather patterns/cycle'(?)


Then this;

''The Bureau of Meteorology says temperatures in Australia have been warmer than the 1960-90 average since the late 1970s, barring a couple of cooler years, and are now 0.3 degrees Centigrade higher than the long-term average.''


More bullsh*t, the article seems to contradict itself especially with other sources/findings. Sometimes i think they have way too much time on their hands.

About Australia: I read somewhere (I can't remember where, I'd have to search the net) that Aborigines of the past, in their slash and burn methods of agriculture, had disrupted the Australian ecosystem. Basically, by destroying vegetation over the course of several hundreds (or one or two thousands) of years, changed the precipitation patterns over Australia. This resulted in severe droughts in the past and the destruction of a major inland lake in Australia. Basically, much of the outback desert is a recent construct (destruct) brought about by Aborigine activity in the past. Do you know about this?

With respect lmbeharry;
Think that sounds like over the top flatulence from whoever wrote the article. The indigenous Aboriginal weren't stupid, they are/were very much like the American Indians, 'living in synch with the lands'. Sounds like a desperate & lame attempt from them to shift the blame backwards.

Maybe. If I find the article or whatever, I'll send a link...

While your looking lmbeharry, heres something to confuse us a little more...


The Independent - Australia has warned that it will have to switch off the water supply to the continent's food bowl unless heavy rains break an epic drought - heralding what could be the first climate change-driven disaster to strike a developed nation.


For a warmer future, Australia employs Aboriginal wisdom.

Faced with its worst drought in history, meteorologists are plumbing the Aborigines' 40,000 years of lore.
For millennia, Aborigines have known that subtle changes to plants and animals provide clues about the weather. Aboriginal weathermen claim that their predictions are 90 percent accurate and as reliable as the evening television forecasts watched by millions of Australians.

Aborigines claim 90 percent accuracy.

Australia's epic drought: The situation is grim.

Global Warming / Global Cooling - whichever, $20 says they still want to add in a new tax for it.

I can't find anything online. My vague recollection is that it was David Attenborough in Australia narrating the Aborigine slash and burn which allegedly resulted in the shift in precipitation in Australia some 2-10 thousands of years ago. And I say vague recollection.

lmao

Scientists new info states that global cooling is not just sum theory, it is actually possible.Think of this for a moment.The earths climate is controlled by by a delicate balance of seawater and fresh water in the sea currents,now the currents are what controls the climate.This works like a giant escalator carrying warm fresh water to the low lying areas and cold salt water out to sea.The mechanism that drives this is the warm fresh water floates at the top picks up salt (transform to salt water) from the sea and at the same time cools then it sinks.Now the problem is this mechanism can stop.The reason,as the earth gets hotter more ice melts releasing more fresh water this intern slows the escalator down because the cold fresh water does not allow in warm sea water and now that there is more fresh water than sea water the fresh water freezes again and fresh water floates cutting of the incoming sea water and brings the escalator to a grinding halt.This means that we lose our climate control and so the thing runs away and we end up with a ice age.Pretty rough stuff aint it.

I'll believe it when it comes from a reliable news source.



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global warming or not pick up your garbage!!!

Global warming is an U.S. conspiracy.

Somewhere between the 1990 - 2003, a document was written and signed by the Anti-Global-Warming Leader (or whatever, he has a kind of connection about fighting global warming - "that global warming is only conspiracy") to effect panic and "global stress" to the whole world.

That is why, anti-global-warming campaigns are being put up everywhere - it's part of the globe's conspiracy! Fact is, you never know - scientists are in the conspiracy. Earth is actually cooling - and this has gone for years.

Every facts, every data, everything we knew are likely to be wrong.

Oh so that explains how we never get snow anymore in southern England even though 30 years ago we used to get loads

That can happen in a lot of reasons, including "global warming". Try this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2005....climatechange1

And, oh yeah, it rains ice (literally) on Jakarta - a tropical country's capital! - a few months ago, precisely February.

Yeah, whatever, Rebel.

EVERYONE knows that the Southern Hemisphere simply doesn't count!

Right, everyone?

Harte

That's just an excuse created by people who try their best no bothering to care. I haven't heard so much garbage in my life.

^^^A lot of people do care that don't believe in global warming. I'm a tree-hugging hippie from way back and have always been very environmentally conscious. I fell for the new ice age that was being predicted in the 70's, but I'm not falling for this.

It's narrow-minded people that think that you can't be both.

edit:a duh moment...

Why?

It has to do with science, doesn't it?
It also happens to be correct, as pertains to the quantitative data contained in the report.

However, I would have to say that any speculation about a global ice age being any whjere close to being imminent is about as silly as speculation about man-made global warming melting greenland in the next twenty years.

No such extremes, either way, will be seen by humans in the lifetime of anyone on this planet.

I sugest we all simply endeavor to live our lives, and stop with the baloney. We're going to see droughts, and floods, and cold as hell winters (like the past one in the United States) and hot summers, just as we have our entire lives--someplace, some time.

It's not that "duh", Michelle. You're simply being rational.

But there's nothing to believe about global warming. It's been a fact for the past 10-12,000 years. What requires belief is the idea that man has had something to do with it, in the same way that belief had everything to do with the projected disaster of an ice age that came out (prompted by the same sort of irrational, and perhaps similarly motivated people) in the 1970s.

The fact is, the Earth doesn't care about humanity. It does what it does, and there is no force that man could muster which will have any effect on the climate of this planet. We sure can screw up a local environment if we try (visit any major city for a classic example), but the planet?

No way.

Not buying it is a sign of rational thought processes.

...further, I think that 30 years from now, people will laugh at Al Gore and his whacky ideas, just as today we laugh at the doom-and-gloom prophets of the 1970s ice age...




p.s., there's nothing wrong with hugging a tree. I have the feeling trees appreciate it...after all, they share the same DNA we do (different nucleotides are active there, but we're all made of the same stuff).

Its true, any chance they have to can squeeze money out of you they will. Global warming/cooling is a issue, but they are milking us. Gas is a fake shortage. Theres plenty of it. In the upcomming years prepare to be screwed like uve never been screwed before.