Listen,

in 1900's people stood in utah on a mountain they thought it was the end of the world..
did it happen?
NO

2000 - y2k?
did it happen?
NO

in 1998, people though that time was going to repeat itself through the dawn of time..
did it happen?
NO

june 6, 2006 theory
NO

1954 (armaggedon man), a man predicted the end of the world to be on 1976, nothing ever happened on that day..
didn't happen
NO

2007 on july 4, apocalyptic nuclear bomb from iraq??
NO

1986 zombie attack blowing out the human race that wont be contained
NO

there are at least (population counted by scientists) 967,000,000,267,572,831,573 doomsday theories in 1 year - now there have been aprox. 950,002,462,628,163,636,115 doomsday theories that have become widely popular, even more popular then all of this 2012 crap..

listen im 13 and when people mention "2012" i dont want to think about it because i am depressed when i think about it
it ruins my day and everythng, plus i think of my baby sister burning in flames - or something terrible (varies all the time)

please stop all of this stuff, i mean feel free to continue to do whatever and post stuff, i will look into it, post some replies like :POSSIBLY MIGHT HAPPEN THAT 2012, I DO WONDER IT MIGHT HAPPEN...

but what im trying to say is: IT PROBALLY WON'T HAPPEN

Hi.

It is not 'fake'. People believe it, for real, therefore it is. This of course does not mean that anything at all will happen. Does that make sense?

Anyway in my opinion, definitely, undeniably miscommunicated. There is no DOOMSDAY. It isn't about that. It's the uneducated that believe in Doomsday. THe truth of it is, we are entering a new age. That's all. Probably nothing will happen at all to show this.
Something might. *shrugs*

People seem to have always believed that the world was about to end. I sometimes wonder if it's a sort of arrogance, as if people don't want to believe the world will go on after their lifetime and that they will be there at that end of everything. During the English Civil War some people believed the world would end if the King was executed - for them the executionof a King by his subjects was such a monumental thing. But the world didn't end, except for Charles I! As has been already said there have been no end of gloomy predictions in recent years, especially in th 90s, due to the ending of the century. Much the same happened in the 1890s. Who knows what will happen in 2012, but my two predictions are that there will be an Olympic Games in London and that many people will hve to find a new date to predict the end of the world! So don't let the mention of 2012 ruin your day!

You are 13 and you are right you do not need to be thinking about all this stuff.

When I was 13 I knew the world would end in 2000, everyone was talking about it. I really had a 'why bother live for today attitude'. Maybe every teenager has one, but I know that if I truelly belived I would live past 17 I would have seen life a little diffrent. When you buy into doomsday beliefs it changes the way you live.

Don't buy into any of it. If the world ends in 2012 (doubtful) Then it does but when it don't you need to be preparing for college and a bright future.

967,000,000,267,572,831,573 = Nine hundred sixty seven trilion two hundred sixty seven thousand five hundred seventy two.

thats more than there are people in the world, thats a lot of theories, by my reconing about 1000 each. did you perhaps add too many digits?

Aww sweetie! Dont let it make you depressed!

The theories surrounding 2012 are real, but can anyone be certain? Nopers.

I think there may be something to the ideas surrounding 2012, but death and the end of the world? I dont think so! I think (and i sort of hope!) that humanity will enter a new age, and hopefully all get together and sort out our planet!

Whatever happens, happens for a reason. No need to fret about it. It is after all...4 years away. A long time when you think about it!

Be a little more optimistic!
Try and get a varied look at these theories of 2012 if you want. Dont just dwell on all this "fire and brimstone" nonsense!

How many times do I have to say this:
December 21, 2012 is the day the flying monkeys will emerge from my bum and wreak havoc on all mankind. Fear the Flying Monkeys!!

It's most likely nothing's going to happen at all. But we'll only really know when/if we get to 2013.

i doubt anything will happen even the suposed amayan prophecy thats meant to say its the end of the world on 2012 it doesnt say that it just sais that mankind will be enlightened

That's the single most spurious thing I've seen posted here in a long time. Belief is /completely/ detached from reality: you can believe whole-heartedly, for instance, in Angry Mauve Giant Chickens from Uva Beta Uva 12 but that doesn't make them real.



Really? I've never heard that one before.

--Jaylemurph

The only things that will happen:

Truckers/transport, they will either go broke or sell out to the larger corporations (same as the airlines).
btw... thats a great way to create monopolies...

People will end up reshaping their transport habits within the next couple of years.
Food shortage is a real event today. UN warns we have consumed more in the past 3 years than what has been grown (wheat/rice/corn) already semi-developed counties are experiencing riots due to these shortages and price hikes.
So we are really facing a real crisis... combine this with the US economy going down a toilet, means things will become very bad.

As for wounding our youth with these concerns? Well these are real things happening today, thats the way life is.
Myself, I'm doing something about it, I'm selling my house in the City and building a new home on 10 acres... using Solar/wind/geothermal, and I'll be growing vegetables, canning raising chickens and other farm critters.
I'm doing this for my kids, ensuring that they have a home that can provide for itself.

Yes it is sad that young people are going to be facing this, however hiding this does not commit people to create a solution.
Kids need to know, it takes hard work to pay the bills, money doesn't grow on trees, ....

This has nothing to do with 2012, it has to do with what is really happening today.
Prepare, don't stick your head in the sand and pretend nothing is wrong.

Goodog, yes it sucks, and there are people trying to do something REAL to help solve problems that the media is hiding (or barely reporting on) So it isn't all that bad, things ARE going to change in the next 2 years.

I hope for my sake it doesn't happen... I'll only be 22! And only by seven to seventeen days at that! >.>

I believe you missunderstood me. 2012 is an idea, a theory, and nothing more than that. People believe that something will happen, people also believe that nothing will happen. Therefore the word 'fake' cannot be applied to the so called 2012 Doomsday. As I said, just because people believe does not mean anything will happen, on the contrary. But even if nothing happens, it does not mean that the theory of doomsday is fake. It simply is something people are worried about.
2000 was not fake, it was just a mistake.

I think the point was made very well to be honest, who cares if the OP's statistics were out, these doomsday predictions are at the very least big piles of steamy **** and at the worst very dangerous scaremongering. This is just another example of how much young people have to teach us so called mature sensible adults.

I often wonder what is wrong with society today. 65 years ago the world saw the biggest, worst and most devastating war in the history of mankind. But it was not the end of the world, in fact most of todays gadgets and science that make us so lazy were a result of that conflict. So come on give yourselves a bit of credit, and instead of assuming we will not be here in 4 years time start thinking about how we can improve things post 2012. I can garuantee that the world won't end in 2012

and if I am wrong I will pay everyone here £1 million pounds each.

Heavens, you're quite right; I /grossly/ misunderstood what you were trying to say. Please accept my apologies!

--Jaylemurph

The malayns and Nostradamus both disagree with you, but I hope your right. I am not for sure that they gave it the twist that people today give it though.

No apology necessary jaylemurph!

Pup,

Did you steal this idea from me, or did I steal this idea from you?



Both you and the OP, especially the OP, need to know the following.

There exists no Mayan prophecy anywhere concerning anything happening on any day or any time period in 2012.

Nostrodamus predicted nothing at all that came true, and his predictions continue beyond the year 2012 so he obviously never, ever predicted the "end of the world" for that year.

I don't think he predicted anything at all for the year 2012. If you believe he did, please provide a link to the pertinant quatrain showing why you believe it was meant for the year 2012.

The OP is right - the "Mayan Doomsday Prediction" is fake.

The Mayans made no predictions for the year 2012 that we know of.

Harte

The theory of December 21, 2012 is not "fake" because people believe its real. Therefore, its real. We have no evidence that it will be fake, and no evidence that it will be real. We'll have to wait and see.

So can you show actual and reputable evidence to back up that up.

Im only 16 but i heard all sorts of different doomsaday stuff in fifth grade from the teacher.i hated it everytime she talked about that stuff. WE WERE JUST LITTLE KIDS!
she told us told that the world will be destroyed by a black hole or that bombs will blow up everywhere. i hated it

Who's the one who came up with this so-called theory anyway?

Who are the malayns?

huh I never heard this, who on earth predicted a zombie attac in '86?



LOL doomsday prediction are always wrong. That's a fact.

Actually I can be certain, the Mayan calender just ends on 2012, not the world. I don't cry doomsday every time I look at my own calender and see that there's nothing after Dec 31st. Countless doomsdays have come and gone, nothing happened then, nothing will happen in 2012.




How unbelievably naive. Look at the past hundred years, and all the chances we had to 'enter a new age'. We had the counterculture in the 60s, the fall of the soviet union, two perfect chances to step into enlightenment. We had John Lennon, Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr. all murdered. We had Bill Hicks who was too 'tasteless' despite having a positive message, cut down by cancer. We have had our chances to sort our planet out, but we as a species are too greedy and arrogant to change, 2012 will be no different. All we have left as a species is to wait for some wacko to get their hands on a nuke and begin a chain of Mutual Assured Destruction leaving the universe free of the arrogant and destructive species known as Homo Sapiens.

When I was 13 we all knew that the world could end any day - and we'd have just 4 minutes warning .....

People have it so much easier these day in comparison

Anyway, it's more likely a mutant space goat will eat the sun in 2011 so there won't be anyone around in 2012 to know if the world ends then or not.

Well it appears your teacher may be quite a disturbed woman then, if shes talking about that to kids!



Your quite right, but i think you misunderstood what i was saying! I was referring to the topic title, i meant that the theories about 2012 and"the end of the world" exist and that "fake" is the wrong word to use for they are neither proved or disproved.



It wasnt necessarily naive, it was more a hopeful, optimistic comment. I wasnt saying it will happen, only that i hope it does. We obviously need something to give us a kick up the bum and motivate us to sort our planet out. Although neither being "naive", hoping something good comes along or wallowing in negativity is going to help much! My comment just meant that i still have faith in humanity, despite how disgusted i am at times with our species.

guess we wo'nt know til' it gets here aye???

Yes, you're making an argument about semantics.

It's obvious to me what the O.P. meant.

That's why in my response I stated that "The OP is right - the 'Mayan Doomsday Prediction' is fake."

Of course, there are idiots out there that believe that such a prediction actually exists. It is they who are (unfortunately) not fake.

Harte

well i don't believe in all the doom theories unless they have conclusive evidence to back them, or unless i make them from evidence and possibilities.
For example i could say. That in 2012 yellowstone will erupt and spread a blanket of burning ash in the atmosphere covering the world in two weeks creating a nuclear winter for at least a year or more. The winter will kill a large number of crops and weak-unprepared people. Then the ash will fall down burning the forests of the world causing the C02 levels to rise. This in turn will casue temperatures and sea level to rise. The thing is is that doom theories are so easy to make but the chances fo them happening in the given amount of time or at all is little. Though one day yellowstone will erupt, it can be now from another 100,000 years before then.

It will Happen, everything that has gone on before is to prepare you for this event. How lucky you are to be here now at this time, if you survive until 21.12.2012 you will witness the time, when You, as a human being will move to the 4th dimension or else where. Think about it countless millions of millions of people have died, since humans were created, (all of them have spirits that have lived on somewhere else, sometime else )
You will see the end of mankind and wonder at the rebirth of this world. Witnessing that moment is something the people who have all died before you where searching for , ALL OF THEIR LIVES

I think its meant to say the belief is very real, which it undeniably. NO one is claiming to know exactly what though....... well except for gullible people that cant think for themselves.

Dude, live every day to its fullest, dont worry about what may or may not happen just enjoy every moment!

I tend to take these things with a grain of salt.It's mainly and mostly hoaxes,like the Y2K thing.I wouldnt worry about them,there just dates to me,no real significant meanings.So just think to yourself:It's just another normal day.That's what I do.

please come back and give us an update on january 1st 2013 okay???

Hah Hah, Spurious huh, no, man thinking he is the greatest thing in the universe is that. ( And believing it )
Believing your candidate has your interests at heart, believing you can quit smoking, making a resolution every new year, Voting against the European Treaty and believing that will be that. Is spurious. Hell i beleved in Father Christmas and Mickey Mouse and for what they are , they are still real.
Maybe i believe that because of the way the Earth and other Planets are lining themselves up, we will never as a human race recover from the effect ..... But the world is telling you, you are not the most important thing, only part of a thing, your life is part of something more massive. Maybe you are not feeling something odd, reading something odd, sensing something odd. Maybe we are quietly being conditioned not to freek out in the next few years when evidence of different things enter our lives. It's not about living eveyday to the fullest, hell you should be doing that anyway, your alive for gods sake enjoy it. Search yourself ,ask questions, you will find your own answers and they are true answers because you cant lie to yourself.
speak to you soon

Ah...the good old days.. .when you were advised...in the event of nuclear
war to damp down the fire......brush off the radiation.....we were made of tougher stuff then !!

The amusing but strangley spooky 'Protect and Survive..>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6677Eppc-sk

You have a point though Essan....your comment made me think.....anyone living through the 'Cold War' era
has had '2012 fever' training....there was an odd feeling then of living on the brink....always on the brink.

I can remember when the news of the Kennedy assassination came on the TV as a newsflash....I was
sitting on my Dad's lap and he said..."If the Russians did that it'll be World War Three.." I hardly knew
what he meant...but I was scared.....everything felt weird and scarey....

Magnatude this is the best advice I have heard yet. Fear of the unknown and negative talking makes people begin to feel they have no way to care for themselves. Your idea of building a new home on 10 acres is great. I rent a small home with a little backyard that I have already converted into growing fruits and vegetables. We have to learn to get out of the "instant gratification" thinking. Get out there and just do it!

Peace,
Justice

I have a soulution to the 2012 thingy-ma-bob, what about we skip 2012 and just go to 2014 (-just incase). There problem solved, everybody happy?

Everybody except the London 2012 Olympics planning team....

My ruined credit rating will help me how?

Wars and famine in some distant country "prep" me for the end of the world? Who preped the people involved in the wars and famine? Perhaps the lack of war and famine prepared them?

Um- no.

I can't believe people actually believe the world is going to end in 2012, but yet they are not even sure how it will end. It's ridiculous. And it's not the first time in history man tries to predict the end of the world, and has failed.

Yes I know the Mayan Calendar ends in 2012, but if you had a Mayan here I'm sure he would say: "You think we would continue making the map forever?" They had to stop some year.

In ancient history people actually believed the world was going to end in the year 1000. This idea spread through the public like a plague. This however obviously never happened.

A small tip to the OP...if you fed up with it, just don't mention it....else you have to live with it for another months while everybody exchanges the known arguments...again.

No the world will not end in 2012 , because the Hadron colloder LHC thingy will blow us all to pieces

Seriously though one of those 9 billion doomsday theories ought to be correct. Thank god I don't have to sift through them to find the right one.

I remember the hype with Y2K. I remember my grandma stocking up on food and water. lol.
I really don't think anything is going to happen but I still think the theory and everything is interesting.

I do have a question, where do people get the date and everything? Wouldn't the Mayan calender be different from our own? Or is the date the translation from the Mayan calender?

I was just preparing to ask if the Mayans actually said "world will end 2012" or if it was assumed because the calendar ended. Question answered. Thanks.

I LOVE the bolded answer. Made me chortle at work. So wonderfully logical and obvious!!

HN

this could be it.

You don't know that it won't happen in 2012.
Nobody can say either way.