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666XZ
Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSVbwgTKE6s I don't know what is realy happening but i think that they are talking with the grey.

There is not way that i can say this is true or false because if we all are living in a ollusion then nothing is real. I don't even know if I am real. by the way whats the definition of real and not real or true and false?
Elite
looks VERY fake to me i mean why would it be so dark
looks like its cgi
i hope its not real cus if aliens first experience of humans is being strapped to a chair and laughed at theyd probly destroy us
Moonie2012
That's obviously a fake, come on. It sounds like somebody found a recording of people making some animal try to "talk" and they decided to have some fun with the audio.
Teufelhund
why oh why are they filming in the dark? rolleyes.gif fake, duh
itsnotoutthere
QUOTE (Elite @ Apr 23 2008, 09:12 PM) *
looks VERY fake to me i mean why would it be so dark
looks like its cgi
i hope its not real cus if aliens first experience of humans is being strapped to a chair and laughed at theyd probly destroy us



but...but...but....they are all fake
SkepticalEd
QUOTE (666XZ @ Apr 23 2008, 05:06 PM) *
Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSVbwgTKE6s I don't know what is realy happening but i think that they are talking with the grey.

There is not way that i can say this is true or false because if we all are living in a ollusion then nothing is real. I don't even know if I am real. by the way whats the definition of real and not real or true and false?

You know, this forum is flooded with videos that always turn out to be a poor choice by the OP thinking that, somehow, we are going to be convinced that they are real or of real objects. This is one of them.

It's a fake video! First, I don't accept that aliens look like they were created by humans and IF they even exist. Second, no one has any video of a real alien IF they exist. IF they existed I'm sure that they would look a hell of a lot different than big-eyed "greys." Third, notice how the camera person keeps moving around as if they were shooting a music video! If real the camcorder would have most likely been fixed or if handheld, it would have resulted in a steadier video. FAKE! Get over it.

How would you know that the definitions supplied you, to satisfy you, would be real?

SkepticalEd

itsnotoutthere
QUOTE (SkepticalEd @ Apr 23 2008, 11:38 PM) *
You know, this forum is flooded with videos that always turn out to be a poor choice by the OP thinking that, somehow, we are going to be convinced that they are real or of real objects. This is one of them.

It's a fake video! First, I don't accept that aliens look like they were created by humans and IF they even exist. Second, no one has any video of a real alien IF they exist. IF they existed I'm sure that they would look a hell of a lot different than big-eyed "greys." Third, notice how the camera person keeps moving around as if they were shooting a music video! If real the camcorder would have most likely been fixed or if handheld, it would have resulted in a steadier video. FAKE! Get over it.

How would you know that the definitions supplied you, to satisfy you, would be real?

SkepticalEd



Ditto
Robbo
It's CGI, the textures are similar to some ST:Voyager CGI aliens....ie: it's not impressive CGI lol
Bill Hill
QUOTE (666XZ @ Apr 23 2008, 09:06 PM) *
Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSVbwgTKE6s I don't know what is realy happening but i think that they are talking with the grey.

There is not way that i can say this is true or false because if we all are living in a ollusion then nothing is real. I don't even know if I am real. by the way whats the definition of real and not real or true and false?


Look, I'm a very, very busy man.... don't waste my time again.
Thanks.
WraithGod
666XZ - I'm sure we all apologize for our rude responses to this thread. I do remember this being posted, and it has been debunked, though I will admit I'm not going to spend time looking for the link.

If you thought that was cool, this one's even better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf19L6DjnTQ

As far as I know, it hasn't been debunked yet - people in different fields are for and against its authenticity.

This is a documentary on the interview that explains the situation and conditions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G4KnhYuWD8 Watch it if you're going to make any kind of statement on this vid here, as it will most likely answer your complaints and concerns. Hold the questions until the end of the presentation, please. =)
Bill Hill

QUOTE (WraithGod @ Apr 24 2008, 12:51 AM) *


Please don't be the 'area 51 Alien interview'... please...

Oh...... it is the Area 51 alien interview.

This has been debunked.... bunked and de... de plus bunked and then debunked after that, until there's nothing left..
And what was left was.. yep you got it...
Debunked.
oh and then it was debunked even more.... and finally proven to be fake.
REBEL
QUOTE (666XZ @ Apr 24 2008, 06:36 AM) *
Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSVbwgTKE6s I don't know what is realy happening but i think that they are talking with the grey.

There is not way that i can say this is true or false because if we all are living in a ollusion then nothing is real. I don't even know if I am real. by the way whats the definition of real and not real or true and false?


After the government had no further use for em they were left abandoned to fend for themselves in our unforgiving city streets...




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666XZ
QUOTE (WraithGod @ Apr 24 2008, 12:51 AM) *
666XZ - I'm sure we all apologize for our rude responses to this thread. I do remember this being posted, and it has been debunked, though I will admit I'm not going to spend time looking for the link.

If you thought that was cool, this one's even better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf19L6DjnTQ

As far as I know, it hasn't been debunked yet - people in different fields are for and against its authenticity.

This is a documentary on the interview that explains the situation and conditions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G4KnhYuWD8 Watch it if you're going to make any kind of statement on this vid here, as it will most likely answer your complaints and concerns. Hold the questions until the end of the presentation, please. =)


I already saw does videos
666XZ
QUOTE (REBEL @ Apr 24 2008, 01:16 AM) *
After the government had no further use for em they were left abandoned to fend for themselves in our unforgiving city streets...




linked-image



XD
Bill Hill
laugh.gif lol
InHuman
Aliens might be real but that video certainly wasn't..
WraithGod
QUOTE (Bill Hill @ Apr 23 2008, 09:14 PM) *
Please don't be the 'area 51 Alien interview'... please...

Oh...... it is the Area 51 alien interview.

This has been debunked.... bunked and de... de plus bunked and then debunked after that, until there's nothing left..
And what was left was.. yep you got it...
Debunked.
oh and then it was debunked even more.... and finally proven to be fake.


Can you link me please? =)
Syntax
yes this video has been torn apart many times.

I am still trying to figure out why youtube has become the accepted norm for evidence in this day and age....

however as the UFO enthusiasts grow larger and larger, the fanbase will inevitably get younger and younger...

my only hope is that the original research (when UFO and UAP sightings were actually considered scientific) will not be forgotten about among a sea of dodgy videos.
SkepticalEd
QUOTE (WraithGod @ Apr 23 2008, 08:51 PM) *
666XZ - I'm sure we all apologize for our rude responses to this thread. I do remember this being posted, and it has been debunked, though I will admit I'm not going to spend time looking for the link.

If you thought that was cool, this one's even better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf19L6DjnTQ

As far as I know, it hasn't been debunked yet - people in different fields are for and against its authenticity.

This is a documentary on the interview that explains the situation and conditions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G4KnhYuWD8 Watch it if you're going to make any kind of statement on this vid here, as it will most likely answer your complaints and concerns. Hold the questions until the end of the presentation, please. =)

Oh, come on! That video is just as fake as the OP. It's old and it has been debunked time and again from first showing. No one in their right mind would argue for authenticity. First, it's very easy to make such a video. Better ones have been made where you see full-figure "aliens" with real skinny bodies interacting with humans and we know it's a production. Second, why was it filmed so dark? So that you can't see the trickery. Again, I challenge anyone to come up with REAL footage of an alien. Nobody will ever accept the challenge 'cause no one has any evidence of aliens, especially footage.

"Just gimme some truth." John Lennon
ninj
It just like rubber johnny thats all probably the same person that made him.
~ MacDDT ~
QUOTE (ninj @ Apr 24 2008, 02:50 AM) *
It just like rubber johnny thats all probably the same person that made him.

I was thinking that too, It has that same look about it
DrunkDwarf
Any actually real video of an alien or alien spacecraft will always be determined to be fake. There is no acceptable "proof" that can be reasonably obtained. Its all too easily faked with modern computers.

if the footage is clear, then its obviously a fake, because its so clear and detailed it must've been CGI.

if the footage is unclear, then its obviously a fake, because its so unclear and blurry it must've just been a plane or refracted light or other natural occurance.

What then, would be considered real footage? How many burdensome and unlikely criteria must be present before it would be undoubtedly real?
Blacksabbath
QUOTE (DrunkDwarf @ Apr 24 2008, 03:29 PM) *
What then, would be considered real footage?


Something that's not CGI for one, like this obviously is. You can see it clearly when he lifts up his head. rolleyes.gif

And yeah, does look like it's made by the same maker of rubber johnny now that I think of it. Even the noise it made.
Marcus
Personally I think it's fake! Come on.. Who would calmly film in alien sitting in a chair. Most people would probably try to run from the thing.

Also even if these images or video clips are real, no one would believe you because it's so easy to fake things these days with computer graphics and various software. So I don't care how credible something is, no one's probably going to believe you anyway until you bring a dead alien to their house and even then.. no one would probably believe you.
Solarbite
Animatronic alien! I want one!
WraithGod
QUOTE (SkepticalEd @ Apr 24 2008, 01:59 AM) *
Oh, come on! That video is just as fake as the OP. It's old and it has been debunked time and again from first showing. No one in their right mind would argue for authenticity. First, it's very easy to make such a video. Better ones have been made where you see full-figure "aliens" with real skinny bodies interacting with humans and we know it's a production. Second, why was it filmed so dark? So that you can't see the trickery. Again, I challenge anyone to come up with REAL footage of an alien. Nobody will ever accept the challenge 'cause no one has any evidence of aliens, especially footage.

"Just gimme some truth." John Lennon


... No need to be rude. Mayvbe you can link me to it, then, because I've only seen about three videos on it and both were pretty inconclusive. I'm not saying I believe or disbelieve either way, but when someone posts a video I'd like to explain to them WHY it's fake, as I'd like someone to do for me now.

I think of the "alien" (as in, actual beings) videos out there, it's the best, personally - show me these "better" ones while you link me to debunking pages. =P The other ones are fairly obvious but despite the fact that it being an alien makes you go NUH-UH FOO' right away, they did a pretty good job. The darkness was actually explained in one of the videos. If there were real aliens with eyes that big they wouldn't interview them under bright fluorescents, so though it should add suspicion it's not a zinger.
Bill Hill

wraith god... give it up...
it's just so.. gay
theSOURCE
QUOTE (Bill Hill @ Apr 25 2008, 05:27 PM) *
wraith god... give it up...
it's just so.. gay


Don't you mean gey?
Akatsuki-pein
your kidding right?
Bill Hill
QUOTE (theSOURCE @ Apr 26 2008, 12:42 AM) *
Don't you mean gey?


laugh.gif nice one grin2.gif
WraithGod
QUOTE (Bill Hill @ Apr 25 2008, 07:27 PM) *
wraith god... give it up...
it's just so.. gay


Well, that's certainly conclusive. I don't see a problem with playing the Devil's Advocate, and if someone from the believer perspective put that sort of argument up, he'd be ripped to shreds. A little worrisome, actually. =/
Bill Hill

QUOTE (WraithGod @ Apr 28 2008, 03:19 AM) *
Well, that's certainly conclusive. I don't see a problem with playing the Devil's Advocate, and if someone from the believer perspective put that sort of argument up, he'd be ripped to shreds. A little worrisome, actually. =/


laugh.gif twas a weak argument.
I just get so frustrated with the Area 51 interview. I just can't believe people would take it seriously...
'victor' smuggled it out of Area 51....
Robbo
I'm a skeptical believer (if there can be such a thing!)...but what always gets me is that whenever there is a photo or video of UFOs or ETs, people will jump up and down saying its fake...

Where was the videos of Saddams WMD? They weren't filmed, yet more or less the whole world just took it to be true.

People are always going to choose what they want to believe...Its pointless to rip someone's argument, evidence, or whatever to shreds just because you don't like that particular idea. Saying something is 'gay' isn't really a debate
Bill Hill

QUOTE (Robbo @ Apr 28 2008, 11:46 PM) *
Saying something is 'gay' isn't really a debate


I know, I know first one to say it and then the debate is over. wink2.gif
Moonie2012
QUOTE (Robbo @ Apr 28 2008, 05:46 PM) *
I'm a skeptical believer (if there can be such a thing!)...but what always gets me is that whenever there is a photo or video of UFOs or ETs, people will jump up and down saying its fake...

Where was the videos of Saddams WMD? They weren't filmed, yet more or less the whole world just took it to be true.


That's a terrible example - it's like comparing me saying I have a gun in my apartment to me saying I'm in direct contact with aliens every Thursday.

Which are you going to believe without a whole lot of convincing?
Robbo
Terrible examples are a result of it being 1am. I'm not going to believe anything without a LOT of convincing.
darkninja
QUOTE (666XZ @ Apr 23 2008, 04:06 PM) *
whats the definition of real and not real or true and false?

real
–adjective
1. true; not merely ostensible, nominal, or apparent: the real reason for an act.
2. existing or occurring as fact; actual rather than imaginary, ideal, or fictitious: a story taken from real life.
3. being an actual thing; having objective existence; not imaginary: The events you will see in the film are real and not just made up.
4. being actually such; not merely so-called: a real victory.
5. genuine; not counterfeit, artificial, or imitation; authentic: a real antique; a real diamond; real silk.
6. unfeigned or sincere: real sympathy; a real friend.
7. Informal. absolute; complete; utter: She's a real brain.
8. Philosophy. a. existent or pertaining to the existent as opposed to the nonexistent.
b. actual as opposed to possible or potential.
c. independent of experience as opposed to phenomenal or apparent.

not real
-opposite of above definitions

true
–adjective
1. being in accordance with the actual state or conditions; conforming to reality or fact; not false: a true story.
2. real; genuine; authentic: true gold; true feelings.
3. sincere; not deceitful: a true interest in someone's welfare.
4. firm in allegiance; loyal; faithful; steadfast: a true friend.
5. being or reflecting the essential or genuine character of something: the true meaning of his statement.
6. conforming to or consistent with a standard, pattern, or the like: a true copy.
7. exact; precise; accurate; correct: a true balance.
8. of the right kind; such as it should be; proper: to arrange things in their true order.
9. properly so called; rightly answering to a description: true statesmanship.
10. legitimate or rightful: the true heir.

false
–adjective 1. not true or correct; erroneous: a false statement.
2. uttering or declaring what is untrue: a false witness.
3. not faithful or loyal; treacherous: a false friend.
4. tending to deceive or mislead; deceptive: a false impression.
5. not genuine; counterfeit.
6. based on mistaken, erroneous, or inconsistent impressions, ideas, or facts: false pride.
7. used as a substitute or supplement, esp. temporarily: false supports for a bridge.
8. Biology. having a superficial resemblance to something that properly bears the name: the false acacia.
9. not properly, accurately, or honestly made, done, or adjusted: a false balance.



QUOTE (Bill Hill @ Apr 23 2008, 07:40 PM) *
Look, I'm a very, very busy man.... don't waste my time again.
Thanks.

LOL I concur
DONTEATUS
Wheres Sky eagle? he needs to call his Air Force data guys in on this one
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