Hi there.


I hope so. Last time I got overloaded; this time I'm resting more and I'm having less side-effects.


I'm curious as well. The other thread was quite lively with everyone posting so fast that I could barely keep up. Now its just evenly paced. I'm grateful for it. However, I can only learn what I'm doing right or wrong if people voice their opinions.



I thank you for the compliment. I enjoyed the last challenge very much.

Same here.

i'm up to it if you can thanks!

I also wondered why no one has replied yet, to voice their judgment on a reading they've been given. It seems the least they could do and also provide more interest in the thread. I will certainly be happy to give you my response, maybe that will help get the ball rolling.



This could go either way I guess. I don't feel I have a lack of trust in my intuition, but I generally live my life and make decisions by rationality and reason and deliberation - if doing so in favor of using intuition could be interpreted as mistrust, then I'll give you this one.



These definitions are pretty subjective, but I'll answer anyway. Although my grandmother used to take me to her Pentecostal church and my mom took me a few times to a Baptist one, organized religion never clicked with me though I consider myself some form of "Deist". I've used the Ouija board, done automatic writing, psychic sending/receiving experiments, used a pendulum, done numerology, bought and used an ESP/Zenar test kit, been to a psychic fair, been to a new-age church lead by a Rosicrucian, got to go with an established local group to an abandoned haunted hospital, went more than once to see "the Hornet Spooklight" in a neighboring state, gone "ghosthunting" in graveyards (rousted by the cops once) and also just taken a leisurely stroll around one after midnight, had pictures taken by my parents' graves - no phenomena to report, just for the record.



"Recent past" is kind of ambiguous. I'd like to think I have been, and am, a generous person, but everyone likes to think this. Being on a forum for a few years and having over a thousand posts to your name just on one site indicates someone likes to "share their knowledge" (aka be a know-it-all) so while this is all true, it's too broad for me to consider your statements significantly accurate.



I have a grandmother who is a very negative and paranoid person (this is greatly irritating to me), and her daughter (an aunt) has a sort of short-tempered negative streak (not nearly as bad thank goodness). Although the idea of someone who does NOT have someone they know (of each gender) that is particularly negative, is laughable, and who "specifically" uses negative words (we primarily communicate consciously with words so this is not much of a reach), in the interest of benefit-of-the-doubt, I'll give you credit on this one.



Again, I feel this is far too general and subjective to judge.



I really have no way to rate this, as I'm not sure what a "theme of fear of transformation" would entail, and I'm not sure how that applies, in a causal way, to thinking one cannot get the happiness they want, which again sounds too universally applicable.



D'oh! Let's hope not, I've only got a couple of practical or significant things I'm working toward right now!



Again, more specifics in these kinds of statements would be much more remarkable and helpful to figure out if they're applicable in any particular way. Everyone has some fear of reflection, major or minor, because we all have fear and secrets and darker, less noble or desirable motives and urges or interests, which we prefer not to think about. The rest of your statement, being a simplistic generalization of progress in life itself, and advice, cannot be evaluated as part of a reading.



In conclusion, while everything could be considered to be passably accurate inasmuch as a website personality analysis or newspaper horoscope is "accurate", nothing in my "reading" suggests to me that you have any extraordinary insight into me or my life specifically, but I still very much appreciate your time and effort - thank you. =). Please, may I reproduce my reading as-is for my own website/blog, with credit to you?

hey, can you read me please?

I'm game; see if you can pull out any of my secrets I will be sure to reply and let you know how accurately you can read me. Thanks

I'm in too
You can take all the time you want, i have all eternity

thank you

for those of you that doubt the validity of this, and the abilities of people to cold read over the internet.

in your recent past you began to doubt your intuition and languished in a period where you felt worthless.

this is all tied in with band and music for me. i have been on the fence about quitting music all together ( for the past year ) i am no slouch when it comes to playing, i am in the leauges of the likes of billy sheehan when it comes to ripping it up on bass, i have been a basment case for some time as i have been working on releasing my bands next album, the events around recording and band mates quitting and noty being up to snuff with playing abilities have kept me in a state of frustration. when metalica was looking for a new bass player i was desperatly trying to get info on where and when tryouts were. never got a reply as to my inquries ( connections as well as pestering the hell out of them ) thus started the self doubt ( friends from bands that know them not putting in a word, causing doubts about abilities playing ) these doubts about my playing abilities started the sense of worthlessness.

Currently I see you spending too much time indulging in taking your life for granted rather than being thankful for what you have.

this is also tied in with the feelings of worthelessness, i am taken care of, the universe puts before me what i need when i need it, and i have not been gratefull for it, to damn much time mopping about the small crap in life ( a selfish act to begin with )

You feel blocked on your life's path and often frustrated. However, this will come to an end soon.

we have been trying to find the right drummer for our band for about 9 months since the last guy quit. don't get me wrong. there are good players out there, but where i live there are to many guys that take it for granted that there is a drummer shortage and expect everyone to kiss their buts to get anything done. we have had a couple of tryouts for the band, but it all goes south because we don't sound like what is popular.
also, i have been trying to maintain a schedual of meditation, and it seems that every time i try there is something that blows it all to hell ( kneed in the ribs by the wife, blah blah blah ) in my life there are two paths that run paralel, i play music ( there is nothing else that i want to do, i have been on a path to make a living at it for over 20 years now, i turn down really good paying jobs because it would interfere with my quest of music, i don't expect anyone to understand that statment )
i do readings and help people with health issues, these people that i do them for come to me, and i don't charge them anything. my wife has a hard time with this at times, because i will go out of my way to help, it has always been my nature.

You will receive messages from others that will stop the fears under the surface of your consciousness.

there are a couple of you that i have shared some of what i went through growing up, and those of you that have read what i have shared will understand what and how with this statment.

i would just like to add that those around me that are somewhat tuned in are not able to read me with any degree of acuracy because they are to close to me, and all that they may pick up is colored by the closeness to me ( their view of me and how i am, coloring interpritations of what they are picking up, leading to inacuracies in what i "need" to hear )

once again, thankyou.
and for those of you that have doubts, she is good at what she does.
this little reading that i have recieved from her is right on the money.
there is more to all of what is said that i don't really care to share with the world, as it is to personel.
but i share what i will for the sake of argument for all you skeptics

I would love for you to try to read me. Now, if you read my blogs and posts you could find alot about me so it have to be something beside that. Boo ya.
Please be very specific and not generalized. Otherwise you would just be doing a cold reading.

I'll let you read me...I practice telepathy and stuff, so I guess I "project" my thoughts and feelings all the time, so I may be a little easier than some of the others...Have fun!

Thanks for the reading you gave me. People want feedback on this, so:

I read and reread it, and I tried to glean some deeper meaning out of it, but after some reflection I'm sorry to say it really had nothing to do with me or my life at this point.

EDIT: I read it again for good measure, and I guess while some of it could be true, it was all general enough to be true for nearly anyone.

I would really love to be read, but it seems I have to wait for sometime since everybody want to be read. Read me when you have time

I understand that youre busy, but when you get the chance, would you mind reading me? Its interesting stuff

I would be interested to know what you see for me. I will let you know how you do. (see how I tried to give nothing away? )

More cold reading. These "readings" can apply to almost anybody in the world. I'll take an example post.



Everyone has trouble communicating, everybody feels misunderstood by other people on some level. This is natural, as words are not a complete method of communication.



Young woman can mean anything, from a little girl to a 20-something. It would be quite uncommon to find a person who doesn't have a "young woman" relative. Naturally, since you specified relative.. they will be close with that person. Next, they'll take your communication of wisdom prediction and fit it to an event or feeling regarding that person within the past few years. With someone you know well, you experience a large range of emotion regularly, and there are always miscommunications.



Mothers are always in distress on some level, and nobody has the power to achieve the things they long for. Everybody has to settle short of their dreams, because their dreams are wild and irrational.



The person will have long forgotten about you predicting this by the time this prediction comes true, if ever. And even if it did, it's another generalization. Everyone will have monetary ups and downs in their life.



Again, everybody could apply this to themself, because we all notice the negative a little bit more than the positive... and everyone has to do things that other people don't like.


I'm not even trying to say that Tannenisis believes she is cold-reading. It would be very easy to feel genuine but to get used to saying things that will always apply, while sounding specific. It's the same way horoscopes are written, it's the same way any other psychic does it. The reason you can't ACTUALLY get specific is because there's no power there. If you truly had the power to know things about a person so remotely, there would be no reason that you could only know general things about them and not specific things, such as their name, their appearance, etc... since information is information.

Infomation is infomation? I think not. It is you who think that way because of your prejustice towards towards things you don't believe in. Your opinion, your facts and none of others.

To the assumption of cold reading, I will ask you this: If I am sitting here attempting to read several strangers at a time, just how specific would you have me be? I give a general overview and have asked for no other information. If I were to read only one person and one person only, I could give you pages of information. But there are too many people in this thread who wish to have a go.

In the last challenge, I gave more specific readings to those who wanted either clarification of their reading or further insights via PM. I can still do that for those who wish. Just be patient with me.

One person here said that my reading was wrong, which as I said: I am not infallible. I am human the same as everyone else. This is as much an experiment for me as it is for all of you. Now if you want specifics, then ask a specific question. Even an Ouija board will not give you an answer if you are not direct on a chosen subject. I am no different. People want to see what I "pick up" if anything. So I'm doing that.

Furthermore this is only the second time that I have attempted to read online. I am usually do this face to face. And I have read more people in this thread since its beginning than I do in any given month.

It is also very hard to "tap in" via online as it is to "shut it off." My sleep patterns have been disturbed since I started this. I'm also very drained, which is why I have to take periods of rest (I also have two kids ages 5 and 2 to take care of all day!). And one person in particular had the effect of completely unnerving me early in this thread while trying to read him. I had to stop immediately because of it.

If you feel I am wrong, so be it. But do not attempt to pass me off as a charlatan infusing you with false hopes or overstating who I am. I'm here opening myself up to all sorts of negativity and ridicule for no other reason than to learn and be open. My spouse is a solid atheist and a skeptic so I've heard much of this before and ended up convincing even him.

In a forum where many with professed powers are told to "put up or shut up" I believe I am doing my part to put my ability where my mouth is.

Can you say the same?

I doubt you could, because you see, you could have set it up so you did only one reading at a time. But instead, you chose to do many. I notice how they're all relatively the same length as well. What you give is something so ambiguous, that it can be applied to anyone if they read too deeply into it.

I responded defensively. I apologize.

At this juncture, I withdraw from the challenge and concede your point. Choose the avatar, foolosophy, and I will change it.

Thank you all for your time and your patience. I apologize again and regret that I have not made the thread more fun.

Tannenisis

Well I think it is interesting and while the mentions of cold reading are suitable considerations to be mentioned, I do feel those type of assertions can be made in a more conversational, casual manner, rather than accusatory and inflammatory.

I missed the first "challenge" so I don't know how it went, but I don't see anything wrong with a thread doing a more complex reading for each person, on a first-come, first-served basis. Have people WAIT and NOT sign up until a reading has been given and Tann indicates she's ready, then the next person who happens to be reading the thread can jump in and be next if Tann still felt like it, so there's no backlog or additional stress or anxiety for Tann.

Dear Tangie,

Please don't let this person get under your skin and chase you away from the challenge. I clicked on his avatar and looked at his other post (all 22 of them.) He seems to make it his goal to criticize others and try to shut them down. You didn't even read this person, did you?

For those who doubt I am going to post a link to my reply from the first challenge. It was a short reading but spot on as you will see. In my reply I talked about some personal stuff openly in the forum. I did this mainly to show everyone just how on target she was. And since I am a big mouth that will say anything anyplace, I don't care to air my dirty laundry in public (so to speak). Later on we spoke further via PM. And I can not say enough that this woman is amazing! Here is the link to my post in that first challenge. Check it out!

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t&p=1781383

Hope this message finds you well Tang! If not, cheer up! Don't let one person spoil everyones fun here. I really think that was his goal.

Take care,
star****

Tannenisis,

I would apprecitae it if you would read me before you give up. There are things you should be able to pick up that only a very small handfull know. If you are able to do so, then I would say you win.

everyone-
general readings that may seem to apply to anyone are not proof of cold reading, or inability to read. as she stated she would do general readings, so asking for one, then complaining that it is a general reading makes it appear you are looking for a reason to claim "fake". I can also tell by some repsponses that alot of people do not understand what she is saying.

Perhaps tannenisis you could take a moment, and make a post to explain some of the terms you used to help others understand what you are saying.

If I remember the other thread correctly, she did do more in depth readings, and was very accurate according to the responses I remmember.

I would appreciate an in-detail reading.

I have some important things I would like hints about from someone with such abilities.

oh btw- I recently was trolled by like 10 people here, and I saw them in this thread. Don't listen to them- their negativity isn't worth your energy.

Welcome back Tann

Pfftt, some people like to take the fun away from threads

Indeed, in the other thread, tanm was actually very accurate.
And I agree with her, if she's doing too much people at the same time and online, she only get generally info, that doesn't mean she don't have a gift.
I praise the atitude of step to the front to prove her ability, but some people only exists to take people down...
Don't give those people the pleasure of you giving up tanm.


And to all: if you were hoping to get reading Professor Xavier(x-men) style...I'm sorry to disapoint you all, but things don't work like that...

So generalized statements that apply to everyone work for believers. So sad.

How is it taking the fun away?

The thread was introduced as a challenge to skeptics, and the skeptics came and performed as expected. That is exactly what was supposed to happen in this thread, no?



Of course they don't. That would require supernatural abilities



When someone issues a challenge, they are expecting someone else to meet the challenge. It's not about "taking people down", it's about attempting to come to a conclusion as to the real truth of the matter.

Hello Tannenisis, I am interested in a reading.

(Please and thank you!)

-Dot

Was it a reading from her to you that you are nitpicking? Please. Wait till she reads you before you talk about how accurate it is. Using other people's readings? Next time, wait till its your turn.

That's what i was gonna say too, if she didn't read you, how do you know she's wrong?

I'm not a total believer..that's why i wait for my turn to make a judgement.
If she read me and she goes wrong i'll be the first to tell that here.

I thought the skeptics only believes in the facts right? So if you don't let them prove their right, how can someone prove something??
I think the ultimate test is living the experiences by yourself to total believe it, is it not?
I'm saying that because like all skeptics, i like proof...but i also like to believe in people until i can through evidence prove them wrong.
So like i said before, don't expect too much, and only say it is false when you experience by yourself if you can.

In truth, I have not been altogether with this thread since I read Mr. Nobody. It was an entirely unnerving experience in and of itself, like looking into a funhouse mirror with a black background. I literally shut down my computer and walked away from my desk after that. And I again apologize to those I have not read and promised to read but never got to as you all deserve more than that for your patience and time.

I have to ask myself if even issuing this challenge is somehow immoral. Certainly the Tibetans I've fellowshipped with would think so. Their Geshes and Oracles know many, many things they should not know otherwise. Yet they carry themselves with humility and quiet wisdom. I wonder if I dishonor them in this fashion, though I'm sure others may think my conundrum is more flash and fanfare.

It is not the same to read someone online. It just isn't. There is a lot of "noise." Perhaps I should have let all of you decide the terms that would judge whether or not I am valid and capable, especially since I am hearing how I have invalidated myself by the length of posts and that I set it up to read so many people. I was merely doing what I'd already done before. The previous thread was very successful and allowed me to make several interesting connections with others. And it was fun. Perhaps the tone of the board has altered in my absence, but I don't feel that connection this time around. It isn't as if I expect others to merely believe me for the sake of it; it is just that I don't feel the openness I did before.

I am leaving town for a week. I probably will have some level of internet service during this time. But I will ask all of you to come up with the terms of the challenge as it seems I am not the best to determine such things. If it is in accordance with All That Is, I will do my best to fulfill what you've asked.

Okay ma'am, here it is. I read over like the first (ish) page and saw alot of vauge overviews that could apply to anyone, but I'm intrested. I'm a staunch third party who will admit when I see somethign that could be real (U.F.O's/Ghosts) but psi-powers have yet to really grab me.

Read me (its hot, you might want to sit down with a cool drink) and tell me what ya think..

Err she is not reading anyone anymore.

arg.

Why is this thread dead?

Because !!



Tangie,

I am happy your husband is comfortable with who you are and who he has chosen to be.

Harmony for diverse thoughts and beliefs are not that easy for most of us. The tone was very different the last time. It was fun and insightful. Who knows, maybe next time it will be again.

John

Eaxactly what I was thinking hmm. Kind of reminds me of horoscopes. Cool trick though, for those oblivious imo

So how do you know for sure that it is cold readings? Did you say the same as many people else? They said it was real and you said it was not.

Hi Tannenisis,

I'm really interested in a reading . So if your up for it, I'm in.

Quit reading my mind !!


Yes, I agree in that it's all very generalized.

All these readings can apply to my personal life and practically anyone.

They remind me very much of Tarot readings.

I feel that being in the presence of that person and reading their face and eyes will disclose much more

It is all in the FINE DETAILS

Well, I do Tarot also. Would it be better if I did Tarot instead?

The generalizing is the problem. I feel you are a super nice human being and that any powers that you do have are probably greatly magnified on a personal level.

I did have a tarot reading once. I think she used more then the cards though. And I don't mean cheating.

She said I would meet someone (a man) that would have a big influence on my life and that he was fair haired and that I would meet him at a social gathering within the next couple of days. Well, I met the future father of my son that night at a party. I wasn't even attracted to him at first, he actually repulsed me with his laughter. Funny that he had that same insane laugh right before he would beat me, it must have been a warning I didn't heed.

She also told me of another fair haired man with whom I was emotionally involved and that he had left town and that he would be returning soon. True he moved back to my town within a few weeks.

I knew another man a lawyer who was very fond of me ,who claimed to have psychic abilities and who was a Wiccan. He hardly knew me though but yet knew everything about me. He was always guarding me & looking out for me like a big brother. The strange thing was that I wanted to go to the Bell, Book and Candle (an occult store). (I used to be interested in the occult/paganism) I HAD never DISCUSSED THIS WITH ANYONE BECAUSE i WAS ASHAMED OF IT. I felt very drawn to the place.

One day he told out of the blue " I know you want to go to the Bell, Book and Candle." "I want you to stay away from that place, they are very negative and practice the dark arts and they are trying to lure you to them, please promise me you will stay away !" He claimed they would try to use me for their own purposes.

Then he traveled to Mexico and brought me back a huge crystal out of some cave (I really don't believe in this,by the way) for protection. He said he didn't let anyone handle it with their hands and that I must let no one touch it except myself. I still have it.

Of course these stories are strange if not interesting.

If you are psychic you will know if these stories are true.

Maybe it was all coincidence or a little of both.

Either way it's a pleasure to meet you

I must say, it really bothers me that some of the people who Tannenisis posted a reading for, have not come back to state any sort of response. It kind of defeats the purpose of the thread in my opinion.

Like some other people, I do think it might be a good idea for you to try and do a more specific 1-person reading.

I been read with tarot cards 3 times (all by different people). The first one was ok - accurate in parts, not so much in others. The second one was complete garbage. The third one was dead-on.

If someone is going to complain about how "generic" their reading was, in my opinion they themselves are the only ones to blame. If they had an actual question, instead of just "hey, do me! do ME!" it would probably be quite different.

I was impressed with your reading of mrnobody. I've never seen a reading like that. I don't know anything about him, of course, but as I said above - that's why it bothers me that some people haven't come back to the thread.

I wish somebody would do a reading of me
*Hintedy Hint Hint*

hmm.. read me. But i wish to impose certain conditions on you. I want you to be as specific as possible. I don't quite want it as general as others have been in your past.

I'd like for you to read me! I'll post back with comments after the reading

I wouldn't mind a reading, if you are still going?

Yes. I've never had a reading. And I would be very interested in one.