Seems to me, nearly everyone on the planet agree's that Scientologist are out of their minds....but after reading whats it's all about, who here is open minded enough to accept the possiblity that it is true?
Source: Wikipedia
In Dianetics, Hubbard proposed that the cause of "aberrations" in a human mind was an accumulation of pain and unconscious memories of traumatic incidents, some of which predated the life of the human. He extended this view further in Scientology, declaring that "thetans" have existed for tens of trillions of years (several orders of magnitude greater than what mainstream science generally estimates the age of the universe to be). During that time, Hubbard says, they have been exposed to a vast number of traumatic incidents, and have made a great many decisions that influence their present state. Hubbard's 1958 book Have You Lived Before This Life contains descriptions of past lives given by individual Scientologists during auditing sessions. According to an early lecture of Hubbard's, it is, as a practical matter, both impossible and undesirable to recall each and every such event from such vast stretches of time.[66] As a result, Hubbard's three-decade development of Scientology focused on addressing only "key factors."
According to Hubbard, some past traumas may have been deliberately inflicted in the form of "implants" used by extraterrestrial dictatorships such as Helatrobus to brainwash and control the population. Hubbard's lectures and writings include a wide variety of accounts of complex extraterrestrial civilizations and alien interventions in earthly events, collectively described by Hubbard as "space opera." There is a huge Church of Spiritual Technology symbol carved into the ground at Scientology's Trementina Base that is visible from the air.[67] Washington Post reporter Richard Leiby wrote, "Former Scientologists familiar with Hubbard’s teachings on reincarnation say the symbol marks a 'return point' so loyal staff members know where they can find the founder’s works when they travel here in the future from other places in the universe."[68]
Scientologists who have achieved the State of Clear may continue onto the Upper or OT (Operating Thetan) Levels. These levels are available by invitation only after a review of the candidate's character, ethics and contribution to the aims of Scientology.[69] Individuals who have read these materials may not disclose what they contain without jeopardizing their standing in the Church.[69] Presently, there are eight such levels, OT I to VIII.[70] Church management has promised to release a ninth OT level once certain expansion goals are met.[71] The OT VIII designation is only granted at sea, on the Scientology ship, the Freewinds, which was established to provide a "safe, aesthetic, distraction-free environment" for this purpose.[72]
The organization says that it enforces confidentiality. Excerpts and descriptions of these materials were published online by a former member in 1995 and then circulated in mainstream media.[69] This occurred after the teachings were submitted as evidence in court cases involving Scientology, thus becoming a matter of public record.[73][74] In the previously confidential OT levels, Hubbard explains how to reverse the effects of past-life trauma patterns that supposedly extend millions of years into the past.[73]
Among these advanced teachings, one episode revealed to those who reach OT level III is the story of Xenu (sometimes Xemu), introduced as an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy." According to this story, 75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living and continue to do this today. Hubbard called these clustered spirits "Body Thetans," and advanced-level Scientologists place considerable emphasis on isolating these alien souls and neutralizing their ill effects.[75]
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Scientology is a cult. You cannot have a cult of individuals.
It's not their beliefs I find "nuts". It's the fact that they deny that these are their beliefs(until you've coughed up the roughly $300,000 US) that I find loony. That and the way they practice their "religion"(disconnection, fair-game, RPF, having to pay through the nose for their services, etc).
Scientology makes a lot of sense to a point. Then it just goes off the deep end.
Tom Cruise is a moron.
Tom Cruise is a moron.
Scientology practices open belief system. If you can think it, there's a possibility.
Bhudists philosophy tells of Shangra-la, where aliens exist. Western approach is the same...with Dianetics.
L. Ron Hubbard, did in fact help design the Hubble Telescope, which is pretty big right now.
They look for things...
Bhudists philosophy tells of Shangra-la, where aliens exist. Western approach is the same...with Dianetics.
L. Ron Hubbard, did in fact help design the Hubble Telescope, which is pretty big right now.
They look for things...
Eh... I suppose it'd help if I believed in UFOs and Aliens first, wouldn't it?
QUOTE (Live Free or Die @ Apr 26 2008, 03:50 AM) 
Seems to me, nearly everyone on the planet agree's that Scientologist are out of their minds....but after reading whats it's all about, who here is open minded enough to accept the possiblity that it is true?
Source: Wikipedia
In Dianetics, Hubbard proposed that the cause of "aberrations" in a human mind was an accumulation of pain and unconscious memories of traumatic incidents, some of which predated the life of the human. He extended this view further in Scientology, declaring that "thetans" have existed for tens of trillions of years (several orders of magnitude greater than what mainstream science generally estimates the age of the universe to be). During that time, Hubbard says, they have been exposed to a vast number of traumatic incidents, and have made a great many decisions that influence their present state. Hubbard's 1958 book Have You Lived Before This Life contains descriptions of past lives given by individual Scientologists during auditing sessions. According to an early lecture of Hubbard's, it is, as a practical matter, both impossible and undesirable to recall each and every such event from such vast stretches of time.[66] As a result, Hubbard's three-decade development of Scientology focused on addressing only "key factors."
According to Hubbard, some past traumas may have been deliberately inflicted in the form of "implants" used by extraterrestrial dictatorships such as Helatrobus to brainwash and control the population. Hubbard's lectures and writings include a wide variety of accounts of complex extraterrestrial civilizations and alien interventions in earthly events, collectively described by Hubbard as "space opera." There is a huge Church of Spiritual Technology symbol carved into the ground at Scientology's Trementina Base that is visible from the air.[67] Washington Post reporter Richard Leiby wrote, "Former Scientologists familiar with Hubbard’s teachings on reincarnation say the symbol marks a 'return point' so loyal staff members know where they can find the founder’s works when they travel here in the future from other places in the universe."[68]
Scientologists who have achieved the State of Clear may continue onto the Upper or OT (Operating Thetan) Levels. These levels are available by invitation only after a review of the candidate's character, ethics and contribution to the aims of Scientology.[69] Individuals who have read these materials may not disclose what they contain without jeopardizing their standing in the Church.[69] Presently, there are eight such levels, OT I to VIII.[70] Church management has promised to release a ninth OT level once certain expansion goals are met.[71] The OT VIII designation is only granted at sea, on the Scientology ship, the Freewinds, which was established to provide a "safe, aesthetic, distraction-free environment" for this purpose.[72]
The organization says that it enforces confidentiality. Excerpts and descriptions of these materials were published online by a former member in 1995 and then circulated in mainstream media.[69] This occurred after the teachings were submitted as evidence in court cases involving Scientology, thus becoming a matter of public record.[73][74] In the previously confidential OT levels, Hubbard explains how to reverse the effects of past-life trauma patterns that supposedly extend millions of years into the past.[73]
Among these advanced teachings, one episode revealed to those who reach OT level III is the story of Xenu (sometimes Xemu), introduced as an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy." According to this story, 75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living and continue to do this today. Hubbard called these clustered spirits "Body Thetans," and advanced-level Scientologists place considerable emphasis on isolating these alien souls and neutralizing their ill effects.[75]
Source: Wikipedia
In Dianetics, Hubbard proposed that the cause of "aberrations" in a human mind was an accumulation of pain and unconscious memories of traumatic incidents, some of which predated the life of the human. He extended this view further in Scientology, declaring that "thetans" have existed for tens of trillions of years (several orders of magnitude greater than what mainstream science generally estimates the age of the universe to be). During that time, Hubbard says, they have been exposed to a vast number of traumatic incidents, and have made a great many decisions that influence their present state. Hubbard's 1958 book Have You Lived Before This Life contains descriptions of past lives given by individual Scientologists during auditing sessions. According to an early lecture of Hubbard's, it is, as a practical matter, both impossible and undesirable to recall each and every such event from such vast stretches of time.[66] As a result, Hubbard's three-decade development of Scientology focused on addressing only "key factors."
According to Hubbard, some past traumas may have been deliberately inflicted in the form of "implants" used by extraterrestrial dictatorships such as Helatrobus to brainwash and control the population. Hubbard's lectures and writings include a wide variety of accounts of complex extraterrestrial civilizations and alien interventions in earthly events, collectively described by Hubbard as "space opera." There is a huge Church of Spiritual Technology symbol carved into the ground at Scientology's Trementina Base that is visible from the air.[67] Washington Post reporter Richard Leiby wrote, "Former Scientologists familiar with Hubbard’s teachings on reincarnation say the symbol marks a 'return point' so loyal staff members know where they can find the founder’s works when they travel here in the future from other places in the universe."[68]
Scientologists who have achieved the State of Clear may continue onto the Upper or OT (Operating Thetan) Levels. These levels are available by invitation only after a review of the candidate's character, ethics and contribution to the aims of Scientology.[69] Individuals who have read these materials may not disclose what they contain without jeopardizing their standing in the Church.[69] Presently, there are eight such levels, OT I to VIII.[70] Church management has promised to release a ninth OT level once certain expansion goals are met.[71] The OT VIII designation is only granted at sea, on the Scientology ship, the Freewinds, which was established to provide a "safe, aesthetic, distraction-free environment" for this purpose.[72]
The organization says that it enforces confidentiality. Excerpts and descriptions of these materials were published online by a former member in 1995 and then circulated in mainstream media.[69] This occurred after the teachings were submitted as evidence in court cases involving Scientology, thus becoming a matter of public record.[73][74] In the previously confidential OT levels, Hubbard explains how to reverse the effects of past-life trauma patterns that supposedly extend millions of years into the past.[73]
Among these advanced teachings, one episode revealed to those who reach OT level III is the story of Xenu (sometimes Xemu), introduced as an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy." According to this story, 75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living and continue to do this today. Hubbard called these clustered spirits "Body Thetans," and advanced-level Scientologists place considerable emphasis on isolating these alien souls and neutralizing their ill effects.[75]
My froot loop alarm is going WHAA WHAA WHAA WHAA!...
Try not to buy into it too much Live Free or Die...JMO.
QUOTE (Blind Atrocity @ Apr 25 2008, 10:46 PM)
Eh... I suppose it'd help if I believed in UFOs and Aliens first, wouldn't it?
So, uhhh, I take that as a no/none/none of...well, keep checkin'. Budget sweep---ALERT!
I'm afraid Tom Cruise and co. are in the whack job category- a cult if you will.
I believe the Roswell incident happened, and I see no connection between the two.
Tom Cruise, actually well pronounced, not that I'm a fan; that Scientology approved of statistical affectuate forms of treatment for Medical-Mental State conditions. Where, Dianetics teaches the favored see if it presents a problem. as opposed to prevents a problem.
No umbrella talk from this guy, right chere, but ya's sees, 'tis of simple mind, for simple pleasures, is of a simple foolish walk. Now, if you're to jump that they're fantastic in their approach, and highly Therapeutic, They do resolve issues. Everun' got 'em.
To say you've attained Eternal Bliss and dwell in your own Heaven. Stay, eat of the Tree of Knowledge. If, however, you face loss, despair, stress!, or even difficulty, they're well known for the practical approach: For a fee.
So, find one suitable, initial intake to see, out of pocket expense, if their services are of need=around $50US. Check in, and talk,
No umbrella talk from this guy, right chere, but ya's sees, 'tis of simple mind, for simple pleasures, is of a simple foolish walk. Now, if you're to jump that they're fantastic in their approach, and highly Therapeutic, They do resolve issues. Everun' got 'em.
To say you've attained Eternal Bliss and dwell in your own Heaven. Stay, eat of the Tree of Knowledge. If, however, you face loss, despair, stress!, or even difficulty, they're well known for the practical approach: For a fee.
So, find one suitable, initial intake to see, out of pocket expense, if their services are of need=around $50US. Check in, and talk,
I read dianetics and the only thing I got out of it that even remotely made any sense was their belief that if someone is unconscious because of trauma you should not talk around them because they go into suvival mode and anything you say can be misinterpreted and create phobias. If Hubbard really did have anything important to say I sure didnt get any of it.
QUOTE (Live Free or Die @ Apr 25 2008, 07:20 PM)
Among these advanced teachings, one episode revealed to those who reach OT level III is the story of Xenu (sometimes Xemu), introduced as an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy." According to this story, 75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living and continue to do this today. Hubbard called these clustered spirits "Body Thetans," and advanced-level Scientologists place considerable emphasis on isolating these alien souls and neutralizing their ill effects.[75]
And people just up and believe this stuff...without any supporting evidence of it being reality? Astounding, utterly astounding!
QUOTE (Lilly @ Apr 26 2008, 06:02 PM)
And people just up and believe this stuff...without any supporting evidence of it being reality? Astounding, utterly astounding!
Yea...kinda like the whole UFO/Alien/Jesus/God thing....
There's plenty of evidence - just no proof
QUOTE (Robbo @ Apr 26 2008, 08:39 PM)
There's plenty of evidence - just no proof
I'm sure the scientologist can give you plenty of evidence as too...........well.......for $300K
Well, there are those who just pick and choose their 'evidence' I will never pay anyone for evidence as by its very nature suggests the other person is out only for monetary gain.
There IS evidence for the existance of UFOs, not as much for aliens or God however. I believe we are not alone in the universe, after weighing up the evidence - thats the answer I came to. However, some people are just top of the class, 'A' grade nutters...like those who thought they were aliens and had to commit suicide to get back home on Haley's comet. Or that tiny idiot Tom Cruise who thinks aliens shat us into a volcano or something years ago.
There IS evidence for the existance of UFOs, not as much for aliens or God however. I believe we are not alone in the universe, after weighing up the evidence - thats the answer I came to. However, some people are just top of the class, 'A' grade nutters...like those who thought they were aliens and had to commit suicide to get back home on Haley's comet. Or that tiny idiot Tom Cruise who thinks aliens shat us into a volcano or something years ago.
QUOTE (signal7 @ Apr 25 2008, 05:42 PM)
Scientology practices open belief system. If you can think it, there's a possibility.
Bhudists philosophy tells of Shangra-la, where aliens exist. Western approach is the same...with Dianetics.
L. Ron Hubbard, did in fact help design the Hubble Telescope, which is pretty big right now.
They look for things...
Bhudists philosophy tells of Shangra-la, where aliens exist. Western approach is the same...with Dianetics.
L. Ron Hubbard, did in fact help design the Hubble Telescope, which is pretty big right now.
They look for things...
I got curious after reading your comment that L. Ron Hubbard helped design the Hubble telescope so I googled that. Guess what? Yours, here, is the only reference that came up! So, please, can you provide a reliable source that agrees with you? Will appreciate it.
Skeptical Ed
The only time Scientology helped me is when I requested permission to metal detect around their Los Angeles headquarters and I received it. Didn't find anything of value.
Whatever goes on inside their buildings is for the weak minded.
Skeptical Ed
Whatever goes on inside their buildings is for the weak minded.
Skeptical Ed
QUOTE (SkepticalEd @ Apr 26 2008, 10:26 PM)
I got curious after reading your comment that L. Ron Hubbard helped design the Hubble telescope so I googled that. Guess what? Yours, here, is the only reference that came up! So, please, can you provide a reliable source that agrees with you? Will appreciate it.
Skeptical Ed
Skeptical Ed
Indeed. He wrote science fiction (and not even good science fiction) and never even got his engineering degree, so the idea that he should have had a hand in designing the Hubble space telescope is, at best, ludicrous in my honest opinion.
Cheers,
Badeskov
QUOTE (badeskov @ Apr 27 2008, 12:38 PM)
Indeed. He wrote science fiction (and not even good science fiction) and never even got his engineering degree, so the idea that he should have had a hand in designing the Hubble space telescope is, at best, ludicrous in my honest opinion.
Cheers,
Badeskov
Cheers,
Badeskov
Obviously you've never seen Battlefield Earth starring John Travolta...the greatest movie ever made.....
As for Hubbard never even finishing his engineering degree so he couldnt possible help develop the hubble....I dont think Einstien even finished Highschool....I'm not comparing the two...just saying...education has little to do with intelligence.
QUOTE (Live Free or Die @ Apr 28 2008, 12:35 AM)
....I dont think Einstien even finished Highschool....I'm not comparing the two...just saying...education has little to do with intelligence.
Nope, Albert Einstein had a PhD in Physics from the University of Zurich, Switzerland. He's often referred to as 'Dr. Einstein' for this very reason.
QUOTE (Lilly @ Apr 27 2008, 06:51 PM)
Nope, Albert Einstein had a PhD in Physics from the University of Zurich, Switzerland. He's often referred to as 'Dr. Einstein' for this very reason.
Tom Cruise is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of someone going off the deep end with their belief system. As far as Scientology goes? Some of it makes sense, some of it doesn't. How does this connect up with "How Many U.F.O./Alien Believers Here Also?"- the original question? Oh, God! Am I missing something again? Pfft!
QUOTE (ValkyrieVoice @ Apr 28 2008, 12:47 AM)
... God! Am I missing something again? Pfft!
And, I must be missing something as well...what does your opinion (which is quite rational BTW
) have to do with quoting me about Dr. Einstein's educational credentials?
I can't resist
coo coo for cocoa puffs
coo coo for cocoa puffs
QUOTE (SkepticalEd @ Apr 25 2008, 07:23 PM)
Scientology is a cult. You cannot have a cult of individuals.
I agree with you....It is a cult..........period.
QUOTE (Live Free or Die @ Apr 27 2008, 11:35 PM)
education has little to do with intelligence.
Education does have little to do with intelligence, but in tandem they work quite well.
"I dont think Einstien even finished Highschool"
Check your facts on that one.
I have no interest in "CULTS" or "RELIGIONS"
I find it hard to believe that there are not UFO's or Aliens for that matter.
I find it hard to believe that there are not UFO's or Aliens for that matter.
QUOTE (KissMyTwinkies @ Apr 28 2008, 03:26 AM)
I have no interest in "CULTS" or "RELIGIONS"
I find it hard to believe that there are not UFO's or Aliens for that matter.
I find it hard to believe that there are not UFO's or Aliens for that matter.
Hale-Boppe event, 28 people murdered, suicide by perpetrator. It was a cult, and they made the news.
He, the killer, kept telling them, to create a fear, in single file---that they were going home, on a space ship.
He then administered a approximate 15 minute lethal dose...
QUOTE (signal7 @ Apr 28 2008, 11:12 AM)
Hale-Boppe event, 28 people murdered, suicide by perpetrator. It was a cult, and they made the news.
He, the killer, kept telling them, to create a fear, in single file---that they were going home, on a space ship.
He then administered a approximate 15 minute lethal dose...
He, the killer, kept telling them, to create a fear, in single file---that they were going home, on a space ship.
He then administered a approximate 15 minute lethal dose...
erm.....what has that to do with beliefs in Aliens or UFO's? hmmmm? Some crazy cultist starting his own thing? Pahleeeze! LOL
Below is a link to Einsteins Education, the actual background on his "schooling" starts about halfway down....Cliff NOte version is below:
Did not finish HS
Failed College Entrance Exam
Accepted to "technical school" for engineering upon completion of "GED Equivilant School"; school did not require standard graduating criteria (language, ect...)
blah blah...
Basically...I was right.
http://employees.csbsju.edu/cgearhart/Cour.../Ein_Symp92.pdf
Did not finish HS
Failed College Entrance Exam
Accepted to "technical school" for engineering upon completion of "GED Equivilant School"; school did not require standard graduating criteria (language, ect...)
blah blah...
Basically...I was right.
http://employees.csbsju.edu/cgearhart/Cour.../Ein_Symp92.pdf
Most of you know squat about scientology, and I'm willing to bet you guys haven't met Tom Cruise either.
Yet, so strong are your views and opinions on them.
Talk about an unexplained mystery!
Yet, so strong are your views and opinions on them.
Talk about an unexplained mystery!
I wouldn't want to meet that tiny, arrogant man. Scientology is a cult - so people are probably expressing their views on cults on the whole rather than just scientology.
All I know is that I wouldn't be parting with so much money just to join them. The Church asks for donations, but it doesn't cost thousands to be a Christian in the first place.
It may be more of a scam then a cult
All I know is that I wouldn't be parting with so much money just to join them. The Church asks for donations, but it doesn't cost thousands to be a Christian in the first place.
It may be more of a scam then a cult
QUOTE (Robbo @ May 1 2008, 08:08 AM)
I wouldn't want to meet that tiny, arrogant man. Scientology is a cult - so people are probably expressing their views on cults on the whole rather than just scientology.
All I know is that I wouldn't be parting with so much money just to join them. The Church asks for donations, but it doesn't cost thousands to be a Christian in the first place.
It may be more of a scam then a cult
All I know is that I wouldn't be parting with so much money just to join them. The Church asks for donations, but it doesn't cost thousands to be a Christian in the first place.
It may be more of a scam then a cult
And having a free mind is free!
I love the scepter Rod, don't believe, cause you're stupid.
Serious, why Shake, Rattle, and Roll. Like a bunch of Momma's Little Boys, because you need to spill yo' head.
Serious, why Shake, Rattle, and Roll. Like a bunch of Momma's Little Boys, because you need to spill yo' head.
QUOTE (Live Free or Die @ Apr 30 2008, 10:05 PM)
Right about what point? That education has little to do with intelligence, or that Einstein did not complete High School in the usual manner? The problem here lies with the implication that Einstein somehow arrived at his ground breaking theory with little education; which is simply incorrect. Also, keep in mind the time period involved (late 1800s, early 1900s) formal education a this time was a bit different than what we have today.
Scientology is an excepted cult religion sect cult religion sect...bunch of psychotic freaks that have only survived this long by recruiting the rich famous & powerful (helps sway public acceptance ya know) while hiding out in the open. Otherwise they would have gone the way of Peoples Temple, Branch Davidians(?) etc, gagged bagged and hung out to dry. The only god they worship is The Almighty Dollar & keep'n control/tabs of their flock via it's sinister www.
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Judicial statements regarding the Nature of Scientology (around the globe)
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Judicial statements regarding the Nature of Scientology (around the globe)
Its all going to hit the fan soon,when ? I cant say but soon.time is something we invented so the et`s and other mysteries of this wonderful universe will unfold for us as we accept the knowledge. Look at the first page today,what new atomic elements are still out there to futher our growth in ths cosmic events to come? This is why you cant say there are no FTL ships and jumpers,little green men,and women. We know this to be trun just look around any nite at your local bars LoL DONTEATUS 
People are always saying we're (light) years away from FTL travel. But you never know, it might just be that one equation, just like Einstein...but this equation might suggest Einstein should have gone to school afterall!
All it will take is the penny to drop, so to speak, and the limitation thus far of FTL travel would be removed. We may be closer than you think.
All it will take is the penny to drop, so to speak, and the limitation thus far of FTL travel would be removed. We may be closer than you think.
Im with you Robbo FTL is just like putting the pedal to the metal, so to speak
QUOTE (Lilly @ May 1 2008, 06:56 AM)
Right about what point? That education has little to do with intelligence, or that Einstein did not complete High School in the usual manner? The problem here lies with the implication that Einstein somehow arrived at his ground breaking theory with little education; which is simply incorrect. Also, keep in mind the time period involved (late 1800s, early 1900s) formal education a this time was a bit different than what we have today.
which part? all of it obviously....(this post as well as the last was meant to come off as sarcastic, thats why I posted his education link proving myself wrong, then claiming to be right)
QUOTE (SkepticalEd @ Apr 25 2008, 11:23 AM)
Scientology is a cult. You cannot have a cult of individuals.
yup.........
its only a matter of time for them to all start using matching jumpsuits,and drinking coolaid with a special engredient.
My question is , how did L. Ron Hubbard supposedly know/find out about all these 'facts' that he presents to his followers ??
For example, Xenu, Thetans, and everything else the OP mentioned......I get that he made it all up but how does he justify these claims to everyone else involved in his religion ??
For example, Xenu, Thetans, and everything else the OP mentioned......I get that he made it all up but how does he justify these claims to everyone else involved in his religion ??
Scientology (like all religions) is complete and total nonsense.
Fairy tales created by man to control people's thoughts and actions.
There are a TON of really gullible people on this planet.....
Fairy tales created by man to control people's thoughts and actions.
There are a TON of really gullible people on this planet.....
QUOTE (KissMyTwinkies @ Apr 28 2008, 04:52 AM)
I agree with you....It is a cult..........period.
Everything is a cult before it becomes a relgion. Christianity was a cult at one time.
Scientology has a lot in common with many of the mainstream religions if you really take a good look at it, but it only makes sense up to a point and then it turns a bit crazy..hehe. Ron Hubbard threw a bit too much Sci Fi into the mix when he kicked this whole thing off.
I believe that every major religion on this planet is flawed in some way. I also believe that ET life had a hand in our creation in some way. Beyond that, I don't know what to believe. I will not believe scientology anymore than I will believe a 2000 year old tale about a magic water walking man who started christianity.
QUOTE (cpjason @ May 5 2008, 04:25 AM)
Everything is a cult before it becomes a relgion.
Christianity was a cult at one time.
Christianity was a cult at one time.
Yep, too true...
Scientology was a cult then became a religion...
Christianity was a cult then became a religion...
Whats really changed & or different exactly, apart from the obvious & err the all important tax exemption status...
One worships Aliens (ET) God/s & UFOs (?) & mind-f**k'n it's followers & taking em for all they're worth...
The other worships an invisible man & his son(?) hanging nailed to a cross with wounds & blood dripping off his entire body with followers expected to eat his flesh & drink his blood & mind-f**k'n it's followers & taking em for all they're worth?
Will Rock Star III become a religion? I wonder?
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