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Towknee
Is there anyone who has done massive research on UFOs and has actually seen one with your own eyes (not through a friends/brothers/mutant dog named skip)?? I need some serious insight.

Any skeptics please leave now, you will have no valuable input for me, and would only be waisting your time posting. Not be an ass, I just don't feel like arguing over if UFOs do or don't exist, for I finally have all the proof I need.

Ok... so now to the important part. I met this guy who has a set of 3 really huge houses on a sh** load of land. Yesterday I was at his house and he had mentioned to me stories on how his house is haunted and there are UFOs in the sky almost every night. Keep in mind that he lives in country roads so there i very little light hitting the sky at night, and that one this particular night it was foggy and very cloudy in the sky.

I obviously thought it was bull and that he just he was trying to scare me. To make a long story short, later that he took me outside and showed me. It was about 11pm, and we were walking outside to get something from his other house, He pointed to a tiny bright dot in the sky which i presumed to be a star, and told me that it was a UFO. He then pointed to another 2 dots that looked almost identical, and commented on how they made a triangle. He then showed me many many many many more triangles of the same kind.

I was positive that they were just stars... then one of the lights I was looking at, which was previously still, suddenly moved. It made a tiny little jiggle, then darted to the right, darted back to the left, and then went downwards very quickly and then just stopped again. I thought it was my eyes, or somehow the clouds. Then it struck me... how can I see these lights so clearly when it is so cloudy and foggy? Still skeptical, I started to look around at these other triangles.

Almost every single one of those tiny ****ing bright lights over his house were moving in completely unorganized nonsensical ways... I sh** you not that one of these little tiny dots could clear the entire sky within a couple of seconds. They disappear out of nowhere. I was flipping sh**... I am fascinated with the idea of UFOS and have spent countless hours just relaxing and watching the stars hoping that something strange like this might happen.

Ok.. so little tiny lights that are identical to stars moving, it's cool but I still was not completely sure that there wasn't somehow a prank behind this or something, because the two guys (brothers aged 22 and 19) who I know that live there were completely unbothered by what was happening. They told me that it has been this way ever since they built the house there, and that there was something unique about the land when their parents purchased it (i didn't really catch everything he said about what was special about it).

I have my neck breaking looking up with my eyes completely glued to the night sky. Every law of motion and gravity i've ever been taught is being broken right in front of my eyes, when all of a sudden my friend screams for me to look at the sky where he was pointing. There was this huge thing moving above us (not right above us, but ****ing close as sh**!!) it made NO noise at all what so ever, and looked like nothing at all that I have ever seen. It moved like it was skipping it, slowly going forward and then having a quick boost, and then slowly going again.

IT HAD NO WINGS! The best way I can describe it is that it looked like a NASA spaceship except moving very slow and horizontally rather than vertically. The lights on it were nothing like any plane ive seen. I freaked the **** out when I saw it and ran to go get my cell phone (he made us keep our cell phones inside because he said they tend to disappear or not be as active when cell phones are being used)

So I called my sister and told her and she gave me mad sh**, and finally I had her ass roll out of bed and drive over here to see this. She was amazed at the little bright stars that kept zig zagging and falling and changing places, but she refused to believe in it (she does not believe in aliens) Then all of a sudden there is a bright ass orange light in the middle of the dark sky (it looked EXACTLY like a light on a street lamp except it was moving) It was moving erratically then a smaller ball of the same color light went flying off of the big ball of light and then disappeared. The big ball of light then kept slowly lowering to the ground... then it would turn into an airplane looking thing.. and then eventually it would turn into one of the zig zagging dots.





So anyway... I really would appreciate some feedback from someone who is familiar with UFOs. I don't need verification that it was a UFO experience, because I am positive of it. There IS NO logical experience. I am more interested in finding out some history, personal experiences, and anything else you can offer up to me.


(PS: Please do not think that my story has been fabricated or exaggerated in ANY WAY, what I have told you is 100% just how it happened)

perfectdark
if u want a reply try posting it into the UFO forums might get more response there.
Mostar
"Any skeptics please leave now, you will have no valuable input for me, and would only be waisting your time posting. Not be an ass, I just don't feel like arguing over if UFOs do or don't exist, for I finally have all the proof I need."


Wonder why

This is an open forum, its not up to you who can post or not. If you are so confident in what you and these other people saw, then people questioning it wont affect you at all because YOU saw it for yourself. Placing stuff like it is the FIRST thing people will question. All the defensive things you put in don't help your credibility WHICH to you is Dead Set that you saw something, so don't worry. People can question all they want anyway, we've had ALOT of stories like these which where BullSkait, not to say this story is.

Where is this ? the place.

Try getting a picture, if it dosnt like cell phones ( for some reason ) then get a camera or something. It dosnt mind people seeing yet any camera devices make it warp factor 10 outta there ?


Iv seen things, different to this though. You can look up alot of other posts and threads on this.

What i saw was simply 5 lights, 2 below 3, which stayed in the same place for about 20-30 mins and was moving slowly. I went back and forth star maps thinking it was a nebula, it was near pleadies and mars but it vanished when i can back. Some reports in some other country where filed about it except 3 lights on top and 2 on bottom.
darkbreed
Interesting experience. Too bad none photos or videos were taken though, that would been somehing.

Go there with a cam next time, could be worth it if its so much activity there!

Cheers
Solarbite
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 26 2008, 02:00 AM) *
Is there anyone who has done massive research on UFOs and has actually seen one with your own eyes (not through a friends/brothers/mutant dog named skip)?? I need some serious insight.

Any skeptics please leave now, you will have no valuable input for me, and would only be waisting your time posting. Not be an ass, I just don't feel like arguing over if UFOs do or don't exist, for I finally have all the proof I need.

Ok... so now to the important part. I met this guy who has a set of 3 really huge houses on a sh** load of land. Yesterday I was at his house and he had mentioned to me stories on how his house is haunted and there are UFOs in the sky almost every night. Keep in mind that he lives in country roads so there i very little light hitting the sky at night, and that one this particular night it was foggy and very cloudy in the sky.

I obviously thought it was bull and that he just he was trying to scare me. To make a long story short, later that he took me outside and showed me. It was about 11pm, and we were walking outside to get something from his other house, He pointed to a tiny bright dot in the sky which i presumed to be a star, and told me that it was a UFO. He then pointed to another 2 dots that looked almost identical, and commented on how they made a triangle. He then showed me many many many many more triangles of the same kind.

I was positive that they were just stars... then one of the lights I was looking at, which was previously still, suddenly moved. It made a tiny little jiggle, then darted to the right, darted back to the left, and then went downwards very quickly and then just stopped again. I thought it was my eyes, or somehow the clouds. Then it struck me... how can I see these lights so clearly when it is so cloudy and foggy? Still skeptical, I started to look around at these other triangles.

Almost every single one of those tiny ****ing bright lights over his house were moving in completely unorganized nonsensical ways... I sh** you not that one of these little tiny dots could clear the entire sky within a couple of seconds. They disappear out of nowhere. I was flipping sh**... I am fascinated with the idea of UFOS and have spent countless hours just relaxing and watching the stars hoping that something strange like this might happen.

Ok.. so little tiny lights that are identical to stars moving, it's cool but I still was not completely sure that there wasn't somehow a prank behind this or something, because the two guys (brothers aged 22 and 19) who I know that live there were completely unbothered by what was happening. They told me that it has been this way ever since they built the house there, and that there was something unique about the land when their parents purchased it (i didn't really catch everything he said about what was special about it).

I have my neck breaking looking up with my eyes completely glued to the night sky. Every law of motion and gravity i've ever been taught is being broken right in front of my eyes, when all of a sudden my friend screams for me to look at the sky where he was pointing. There was this huge thing moving above us (not right above us, but ****ing close as sh**!!) it made NO noise at all what so ever, and looked like nothing at all that I have ever seen. It moved like it was skipping it, slowly going forward and then having a quick boost, and then slowly going again.

IT HAD NO WINGS! The best way I can describe it is that it looked like a NASA spaceship except moving very slow and horizontally rather than vertically. The lights on it were nothing like any plane ive seen. I freaked the **** out when I saw it and ran to go get my cell phone (he made us keep our cell phones inside because he said they tend to disappear or not be as active when cell phones are being used)

So I called my sister and told her and she gave me mad sh**, and finally I had her ass roll out of bed and drive over here to see this. She was amazed at the little bright stars that kept zig zagging and falling and changing places, but she refused to believe in it (she does not believe in aliens) Then all of a sudden there is a bright ass orange light in the middle of the dark sky (it looked EXACTLY like a light on a street lamp except it was moving) It was moving erratically then a smaller ball of the same color light went flying off of the big ball of light and then disappeared. The big ball of light then kept slowly lowering to the ground... then it would turn into an airplane looking thing.. and then eventually it would turn into one of the zig zagging dots.





So anyway... I really would appreciate some feedback from someone who is familiar with UFOs. I don't need verification that it was a UFO experience, because I am positive of it. There IS NO logical experience. I am more interested in finding out some history, personal experiences, and anything else you can offer up to me.


(PS: Please do not think that my story has been fabricated or exaggerated in ANY WAY, what I have told you is 100% just how it happened)


All I can say is WOW. I believe your telling the truth with this. One reason is because me and one of my friends saw one of the lights you were describing. The little one's that look like stars. I only saw one, and it was really far away, but like you said it moved very randomly; almost like it was in water, and not air. Well I'm just glad someone saw that exact thing I did, because we just thought it was the North star or something; and our eyes were just playing tricks on us. Anyways, you should get a video camera, and go back to his house. Just don't get abducted LOL.
Solarbite
One more thing. Where do you live? The way you talked "mad sh**" sounds like you might be from Jersey...Bergan county maybe?
ECC
I believe you. I have seen similar things. I would love to know where the area is.
Robbo
One thing that always makes me skeptical is when someone says "they don't like pictures being taken" or stuff about cell phones which you mentioned...If 'they' can travel to this planet and enter it's atmosphere - cell phones wouldn't pose too much of a problem. I'm not accusing you of lying, but it's a common occurance with hoaxes or nutters.

One guy in Sweeden or Norway (I forget where) said he had built a huge triangle and aliens had given him technology to contact them, but when people went to see...obviously the aliens had finished with him and taken their technology back.

It would be great, however, if you could get some actual video footage of these things...also, what colour were those 'stars'? I've seen 3 bright orange orbs in the sky over my house a few times, with movement like you described
Mostar
QUOTE (Robbo @ Apr 26 2008, 07:13 PM) *
One thing that always makes me skeptical is when someone says "they don't like pictures being taken" or stuff about cell phones which you mentioned...If 'they' can travel to this planet and enter it's atmosphere - cell phones wouldn't pose too much of a problem. I'm not accusing you of lying, but it's a common occurance with hoaxes or nutters.

One guy in Sweeden or Norway (I forget where) said he had built a huge triangle and aliens had given him technology to contact them, but when people went to see...obviously the aliens had finished with him and taken their technology back.

It would be great, however, if you could get some actual video footage of these things...also, what colour were those 'stars'? I've seen 3 bright orange orbs in the sky over my house a few times, with movement like you described



We have alot of people coming out and saying "omg i believe you" experienced members of UM understand some things about that too.....

Besides, dosnt matter if he is lying or not. You get alot of defensive reactions when accused of lying. Maybe topic starter can get some pictures.
Towknee
Geez, I would have thought you guys would have been a tad bit more open minded.


The only reason that I asked for skeptics to leave and not post is because I am trying to gain some kind of insight as to what these UFOs were, not argue with someone who wasn't there about whether or not all 5 of us at the house saw what we saw.

Oh, and sorry about posting in the wrong section! My bad tongue.gif




But anyway, I live in Northern Wisconsin. About 30 minutes away from Milwaukee. I just met this guy and have only been to his house a couple of times... but 2 out of the 3 times I've been there, there has been multiple definite UFO activity.. The two brothers who live there were completely unbothered by it all and say it is almost every single night, and that they have even experienced a few DURING THE DAY. They have had multiple ones come within very good view too.

I am definitely going to be getting ahold of a camera or maybe a video thing and trying to capture some of this, hopefully it shows up at night.

The whole cell phone thing I am not sure if it is real or not. He told me from the beginning that I can bring my phone if I want but I should leave it in the house because he told me they disappear or become less active if you have a phone with you.

This is the REAL DEAL! I don't even know what to do.. They are there almost every night.. I feel like I should be creating some kind of huge scene and show everyone I possibly can and turn everyone into believers...


Solarbite
do it. record it. today.
lost_shaman
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 26 2008, 01:36 PM) *
But anyway, I live in Northern Wisconsin. About 30 minutes away from Milwaukee. I just met this guy and have only been to his house a couple of times... but 2 out of the 3 times I've been there, there has been multiple definite UFO activity..


Could be a hotspot for UAP activity, we know such places exist and it sounds like you're describing UAP to me.

See Project Hessdalen ( http://www.hessdalen.org/index_e.shtml ).

Note the similarity between what you described and the description of UAP given below.

"It was moving erratically then a smaller ball of the same color light went flying off of the big ball of light and then disappeared." - Tonyizzle

"the luminous phenomenon itself is openly constituted of many subordinate spheroids which seem to vibrate around a common barycenter, some of which are clearly ejected from the central body;" - THE PHYSICAL STUDY OF ATMOSPHERIC LUMINOUS ANOMALIES AND THE SETV HYPOTHESIS Massimo Teodorani, Ph.D.

http://openseti.org/Docs/EuroSETI2002_OSI.htm
dreamland
I have seen ufo 3 times in my life,so i believe you.Dont worry about sceptics...there always would be...What they dont understand is that our planet earth is part of entire universe,where there is thousands of galactics and millions of planets,and space races who has highly advance technology.Alien races has been on our planet thousands of years ago,maybe hundreds of years.There always would be sceptics and believers.
manu-c
Wow you seem very convinced about this.

QUOTE
There was this huge thing moving above us (not right above us, but ****ing close as sh**!!) it made NO noise at all what so ever, and looked like nothing at all that I have ever seen. It moved like it was skipping it, slowly going forward and then having a quick boost, and then slowly going again.


This sounds like you saw a definitive craft which is quite crazy, regardless if you record it or not this will stick with you for the rest of your life. You don´t need to make other people believers, our path as a species won´t be altered because we believe or not in UFO´s, the job is to be able to grasp these experiences as if they were meant for you and deal with them the way you can. Humanity needs to deal with it´s issues first, if tomorrow we all had definitive proof of ufo´s it wouldn´t change the wars, starvation and hate all around the world. It is irrelevant.

Just enjoy it and keep telling us if you see more interesting stuff, even if you took pics nowdays every pic can be altered so it wouldn´t proof anything.

cheers
Towknee
QUOTE (lost_shaman @ Apr 26 2008, 08:02 PM) *
Could be a hotspot for UAP activity, we know such places exist and it sounds like you're describing UAP to me.

See Project Hessdalen ( http://www.hessdalen.org/index_e.shtml ).

Note the similarity between what you described and the description of UAP given below.

"It was moving erratically then a smaller ball of the same color light went flying off of the big ball of light and then disappeared." - Tonyizzle

"the luminous phenomenon itself is openly constituted of many subordinate spheroids which seem to vibrate around a common barycenter, some of which are clearly ejected from the central body;" - THE PHYSICAL STUDY OF ATMOSPHERIC LUMINOUS ANOMALIES AND THE SETV HYPOTHESIS Massimo Teodorani, Ph.D.

http://openseti.org/Docs/EuroSETI2002_OSI.htm



Thanks, I am going to look into that it seems very interesting.


So.. I'm not sure if this is true or not, or if it matters, but according to a couple of news articles Campbellsport/Dundee in Wisconsin is the #1 UFO hot spot in the US. I live approximately 30 minutes from there.
DEBUNKER
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 26 2008, 07:00 AM) *
Is there anyone who has done massive research on UFOs and has actually seen one with your own eyes I need some serious insight.

Any skeptics please leave now, you will have no valuable input for me, and would only be waisting your time posting.



Let me se if I understand this... You have seen something that you cant explain, the U in UFO, unidentified. Now you want an explanation to that unidentified flying object...but not from a skeptic!!? Sounds like you want someone to feed your fantasy that it was an alien spaceship, right!?

Ok, I can do that....-It was probably extraterrestrials, and you are very special to have been witness to something as extraordinary as an alien spaceship. Congratulations.
Omnaka
Most people will not believe In extraterestrial craft or beings untill they experience them for them self.

I'm happy you finally Got to see them, and have some of your Questions answered.

Try telecomunicating with them, and try not to freek out when they comunicate back.

Love Omnaka
Omnaka
QUOTE (manu-c @ Apr 26 2008, 07:56 PM) *
Wow you seem very convinced about this.



This sounds like you saw a definitive craft which is quite crazy, regardless if you record it or not this will stick with you for the rest of your life. You don´t need to make other people believers, our path as a species won´t be altered because we believe or not in UFO´s, the job is to be able to grasp these experiences as if they were meant for you and deal with them the way you can. Humanity needs to deal with it´s issues first, if tomorrow we all had definitive proof of ufo´s it wouldn´t change the wars, starvation and hate all around the world. It is irrelevant.

Just enjoy it and keep telling us if you see more interesting stuff, even if you took pics nowdays every pic can be altered so it wouldn´t proof anything.

cheers

I dunno bro, I think it might change wars and religious beliefa and many things seeing , talking with a Race, which Has experienced what we as a race have not.

Their technology will change hearts and minds, Gold could become worthless and energy could be free, making the big oil co worthless. Much good could come from meeting our spirit bros from another Galaxy, and or time.

Know that who we call aliens , Have eternal spirits also, their bodies are just diferent.

They are truly our brothers.

Love Omnaka
Towknee
Sure enough they were there again tonight.. But it seems as if they are following me? I was 30 minutes away from the location I have been seeing them, and then today they showed up in milwaukee right above where we were, the surrounding areas were completely cloudy.
bogcreeper
Do I believe in UFO's? Yes for a good reason, I have seen one. The one thing that I do have to say is that I believe that they are not "foreign" but from our own earth. I do not see any substainable evidence to say that they are aliens. I believe them to just be different types of bioplasmic life forms, such as earthlights, orbs etc. But have I seen unidentified f'd up lights defying the laws of physics dancing in my face? ... yes I have.
signal7
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 26 2008, 12:00 AM) *
Is there anyone who has done massive research on UFOs and has actually seen one with your own eyes (not through a friends/brothers/mutant dog named skip)?? I need some serious insight.

Any skeptics please leave now, you will have no valuable input for me, and would only be waisting your time posting. Not be an ass, I just don't feel like arguing over if UFOs do or don't exist, for I finally have all the proof I need.

Ok... so now to the important part. I met this guy who has a set of 3 really huge houses on a sh** load of land. Yesterday I was at his house and he had mentioned to me stories on how his house is haunted and there are UFOs in the sky almost every night. Keep in mind that he lives in country roads so there i very little light hitting the sky at night, and that one this particular night it was foggy and very cloudy in the sky.

I obviously thought it was bull and that he just he was trying to scare me. To make a long story short, later that he took me outside and showed me. It was about 11pm, and we were walking outside to get something from his other house, He pointed to a tiny bright dot in the sky which i presumed to be a star, and told me that it was a UFO. He then pointed to another 2 dots that looked almost identical, and commented on how they made a triangle. He then showed me many many many many more triangles of the same kind.

I was positive that they were just stars... then one of the lights I was looking at, which was previously still, suddenly moved. It made a tiny little jiggle, then darted to the right, darted back to the left, and then went downwards very quickly and then just stopped again. I thought it was my eyes, or somehow the clouds. Then it struck me... how can I see these lights so clearly when it is so cloudy and foggy? Still skeptical, I started to look around at these other triangles.

Almost every single one of those tiny ****ing bright lights over his house were moving in completely unorganized nonsensical ways... I sh** you not that one of these little tiny dots could clear the entire sky within a couple of seconds. They disappear out of nowhere. I was flipping sh**... I am fascinated with the idea of UFOS and have spent countless hours just relaxing and watching the stars hoping that something strange like this might happen.

Ok.. so little tiny lights that are identical to stars moving, it's cool but I still was not completely sure that there wasn't somehow a prank behind this or something, because the two guys (brothers aged 22 and 19) who I know that live there were completely unbothered by what was happening. They told me that it has been this way ever since they built the house there, and that there was something unique about the land when their parents purchased it (i didn't really catch everything he said about what was special about it).

I have my neck breaking looking up with my eyes completely glued to the night sky. Every law of motion and gravity i've ever been taught is being broken right in front of my eyes, when all of a sudden my friend screams for me to look at the sky where he was pointing. There was this huge thing moving above us (not right above us, but ****ing close as sh**!!) it made NO noise at all what so ever, and looked like nothing at all that I have ever seen. It moved like it was skipping it, slowly going forward and then having a quick boost, and then slowly going again.

IT HAD NO WINGS! The best way I can describe it is that it looked like a NASA spaceship except moving very slow and horizontally rather than vertically. The lights on it were nothing like any plane ive seen. I freaked the **** out when I saw it and ran to go get my cell phone (he made us keep our cell phones inside because he said they tend to disappear or not be as active when cell phones are being used)

So I called my sister and told her and she gave me mad sh**, and finally I had her ass roll out of bed and drive over here to see this. She was amazed at the little bright stars that kept zig zagging and falling and changing places, but she refused to believe in it (she does not believe in aliens) Then all of a sudden there is a bright ass orange light in the middle of the dark sky (it looked EXACTLY like a light on a street lamp except it was moving) It was moving erratically then a smaller ball of the same color light went flying off of the big ball of light and then disappeared. The big ball of light then kept slowly lowering to the ground... then it would turn into an airplane looking thing.. and then eventually it would turn into one of the zig zagging dots.





So anyway... I really would appreciate some feedback from someone who is familiar with UFOs. I don't need verification that it was a UFO experience, because I am positive of it. There IS NO logical experience. I am more interested in finding out some history, personal experiences, and anything else you can offer up to me.


(PS: Please do not think that my story has been fabricated or exaggerated in ANY WAY, what I have told you is 100% just how it happened)


So tell me, somewhere in your contraception of conception, why must we, as these loners, fight amongst the Stars: Dear, AstroZooAlogist.

Gemini=Complex Warrior,
Libra=Blind Justice, uh,no Balance of the Heavens.
Capricorn, I believe, if not mistaken, is of Home Sought, Dwellar Amongst THe Stars.

Yet, everyone capable knows their sign, or hint at may be told.

Such odd behavior, you Star Gazers. Set yourself Adrift.
Sweetpumper
I've seen the same thing. We can't tell you what they are 'cause we don't know.
icet925
Stop Guessing and take some pictures or videos!!!
WE WANT TO SEE TOO!
Omnaka
QUOTE (icet925 @ Apr 28 2008, 09:42 PM) *
Stop Guessing and take some pictures or videos!!!
WE WANT TO SEE TOO!

You will have better luck experiencing and looking up at the sky at night on your Own, then when you relate your experience , someone can demand that you show proof of what you saw. Only this wont matter to you because it was your experience and wont matter if anyone believes you either.

Seek and you will find.

Not on a computer, up in the sky. It does not hurt to Pray on this either.

Love Omnaka
Towknee
QUOTE (icet925 @ Apr 28 2008, 10:42 PM) *
Stop Guessing and take some pictures or videos!!!
WE WANT TO SEE TOO!



There are a lot of ignorant people on this forum. If I were to take a video of moving star-looking objects they would probably have a stroke trying to convince everyone how fake it is.
Left Field
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 28 2008, 07:58 PM) *
There are a lot of ignorant people on this forum. If I were to take a video of moving star-looking objects they would probably have a stroke trying to convince everyone how fake it is.


Claiming you won't videotape what you see for that reason is a very weak reason.

If you see what you say you see, many people here would love to see it. Especially if you were to videotape your claims of not only making them appear, but also being able to make them move.

I'm an openminded person. I believe UFOs exist. As for aliens, I can't bring myself to really say I believe in them. For whatever reason, I just don't.

Anyways, if you have a camera and refuse to record the things you claim you see for nothing more than the reason above, it only lends more reason for those that doubt you to doubt you even more.

I'd like to believe you saw what you claim not only in this thread, but the other one you started, but quite frankly it just doesn't seem very believable. Even if you are envisioning what you claim, it would seem to me there is a different reason behind it then what you propose it to be on the surface.
jonny b
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 28 2008, 04:58 PM) *
There are a lot of ignorant people on this forum. If I were to take a video of moving star-looking objects they would probably have a stroke trying to convince everyone how fake it is.


Really dude? Thats not a very nice thing to say.Look man, all I can say is that you are always going to get skeptics everywhere.As far as I know both skeptics and believers would like to see evidence "of coarse", and it seems you have an oppertunity to do so.If you are really seeing a physical phenomenon, then you should be able to get it on film, "that is assuming they will show up again for you".As far as people on these forums being skeptical of you,you are just going to have to deal with it, but it does not mean they are ignorant.If it doesn't matter that you prove youself to anyone, and all you want is info, then what does it matter what anyone says here.Go research it at the library where no one will put there 2 cents in, and you can have your theories all to yourself.

Sometimes when it comes to learning we have to take in differant perspectives.That is what these forums are all about in my opinion.

Thanx, and good luck with this. original.gif hope you find out what you need to.









signal7
What is it, with demand at touch software, and then everyone drinks "Fuzzy Mind".

If I should show you a video of kicking someguys ass, you wouldn't even appear in court. There
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 28 2008, 06:58 PM) *
There are a lot of ignorant people on this forum. If I were to take a video of moving star-looking objects they would probably have a stroke trying to convince everyone how fake it is.

Look to yourself.
icet925
QUOTE (Omnaka @ Apr 28 2008, 04:48 PM) *
You will have better luck experiencing and looking up at the sky at night on your Own, then when you relate your experience , someone can demand that you show proof of what you saw. Only this wont matter to you because it was your experience and wont matter if anyone believes you either.

Seek and you will find.

Not on a computer, up in the sky. It does not hurt to Pray on this either.

Love Omnaka


I always try to experience it on my own, but I am never a victim of an ufo experience.
I look up in the sky whenever I have a chance.
So until then, I rely on other people's experience to enlighten me.
icet925
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 28 2008, 04:58 PM) *
There are a lot of ignorant people on this forum. If I were to take a video of moving star-looking objects they would probably have a stroke trying to convince everyone how fake it is.


Let's be ignorant of these ignorant people.
Do your best and try to capture anything suspicious, or even better camp out there and take the best god damn ufo tape ever.


This is what the forum is about; there is always going to be skeptics.
Believe it or not, it is other people's personal preference.
Saru
Tony, this is an open forum and as such you can't ask skeptics not to contribute. If you want an explanation for what you saw then you need input from both sides of the table and anything you can provide, including video footage if it is at all possible for you to get it, would help to solidify what it was that you experienced.
Towknee
QUOTE (SaRuMaN @ Apr 30 2008, 12:16 PM) *
Tony, this is an open forum and as such you can't ask skeptics not to contribute. If you want an explanation for what you saw then you need input from both sides of the table and anything you can provide, including video footage if it is at all possible for you to get it, would help to solidify what it was that you experienced.



Whatever man... If they want to waste their time, fine by me. It would kind of be like having someone who knows no spanish help translate a spanish text... they won't add any valuable input.
Moonie2012
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 30 2008, 01:58 PM) *
Whatever man... If they want to waste their time, fine by me. It would kind of be like having someone who knows no spanish help translate a spanish text... they won't add any valuable input.


You have a LOT of nerve calling people "ignorant" just because they won't believe your story. The only one being ignorant is YOU.

I'm convinced now that you're full of it, I really am. At one point I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and await evidence, but all the insults you throw around, all the negativity about proving your own story true - this lack of evidence has NOTHING to do with you thinking skeptics will cut it down, it has EVERYTHING to do with you making it up.

Doesn't it?

P.S. Even if your story was true, what "help" and "input" do you expect to find here? A group of people that can magically control UFOs that could give you pointers? These people don't exist. NOBODY knows what they are (at least not around these parts), and anybody that says they know what they are for a fact is full of it.

An explanation of what it is? Try showing us what it is. Oh, that's right - you can't - because it isn't happening.
Saru
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 30 2008, 07:58 PM) *
Whatever man... If they want to waste their time, fine by me. It would kind of be like having someone who knows no spanish help translate a spanish text... they won't add any valuable input.

You mean they won't tell you what you want to hear; if you were genuinely interested in getting to the bottom of your experiences then you would want to consider all avenues and possibilities, not just the ones you personally agree with.
Neith
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 26 2008, 02:36 PM) *
This is the REAL DEAL! I don't even know what to do.. They are there almost every night.. I feel like I should be creating some kind of huge scene and show everyone I possibly can and turn everyone into believers...


Yes, I want to see a video please yes.gif . Why are the brothers not more interested in sharing this with the public?
Towknee
QUOTE (SaRuMaN @ Apr 30 2008, 07:46 PM) *
You mean they won't tell you what you want to hear; if you were genuinely interested in getting to the bottom of your experiences then you would want to consider all avenues and possibilities, not just the ones you personally agree with.


Please lock this post. Thanks.
jonny b
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 30 2008, 01:02 PM) *
Please lock this post. Thanks.


ROFL, common man, why are you not even willing to hear people out?
Sweetpumper
Jeezus, another thread wrecked. Fantastic. This whole forum is becoming quite miserable.

The 'Best Evidence' thread is there guys, use it. There's almost 150 pages of the same crap in there.
Moonie2012
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 30 2008, 03:02 PM) *
Please lock this post. Thanks.


LOL, run away from it. Ignore all the perfectly logical requests from those haters and RUN AWAY!

QUOTE (Sweetpumper @ Apr 30 2008, 03:21 PM) *
Jeezus, another thread wrecked. Fantastic. This whole forum is becoming quite miserable.


Tell me about it - he ruined it pretty bad for himself. All he had to do was post a pic and lay off the insults, and it could have been a good thread.

Or maybe you meant the skeptics ruined it? LOL.
Left Field
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 30 2008, 04:02 PM) *
Please lock this post. Thanks.


Weak.
Saru
Given the train wreck this thread has become I think we can safely go ahead and put it to rest.

Thread closed.
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