michael3x6
Apr 27 2008, 11:45 AM
I saw the demon-taking-over-topics
And I thought, can a demon take shape of other organisms?
Like animals and humans
AlucardXX
Apr 27 2008, 11:49 AM
Well, I've heard stories of them taking the form of love ones from babies to grandma, so I guess its possible, lots we don't know about their abilities.
rollinevo
Apr 27 2008, 11:51 AM
As i maybe you hear your wife callin you and she is in pain so you go see her and then find no one is home?
AlucardXX
Apr 27 2008, 11:54 AM
Well, that's not really them taking the form of another person, just mimicking their voice.
Promethius
Apr 27 2008, 11:55 AM
Yup. I believe demons are definitely shape changers, I expect thet's why they have evaded discovery and stuff...
rollinevo
Apr 27 2008, 11:56 AM
Ah i see but if there is nothin livin in the house bar myself there can be no " taking over" ???????
AlucardXX
Apr 27 2008, 11:59 AM
They can't possibly morph into a real person speech and all, never hear of an encounter like this, there's always a difference between the impostor and the real one, subtle but you can tell its not them ,somehow. Now an animal its a more easier form to take I think and can be done without you noticing, you probably say "Oh its just another cat out there".
rollinevo
Apr 27 2008, 12:07 PM
could someone please tell me somewere i can go as i need help on this situation i have as i think im in the wrong place! Eg i hear my wife call my name and no one is home and other strange things!
i have tried talkin to a phychic but they wont even let me near them !
AlucardXX
Apr 27 2008, 12:15 PM
I don't think sounding like one of your family members is a thing a ghost would do so maybe there's something else there(not an expert, just going on personal experience), You live alone? What sorts of things have happen besides the voices? Just curious sorry for being off topic.
rollinevo
Apr 27 2008, 12:24 PM
Well i have been tryin for a year or two to talk to a psychic or anyone but they dont even want to go near me!
I hear callin of my name, i get told things, i was comin home from work on the open road i came round the bend and there was a figure in the middle of the road and as nearly rolled the work truck tryin to miss IT it just stood there watchin and said "your him" ??????? WTF
michael3x6
Apr 27 2008, 02:08 PM
cpjason
Apr 27 2008, 02:18 PM
They can't take on human form, or any form here on earth. That is why they have to posess people. Possession is the only way they can get here, and that is why they posess people. It's in the bible, and I am not making a guess. Angels can, demons can't. That is the bonus of having GOD on your side.
Rosewin
Apr 27 2008, 02:41 PM
It sounds like astral masqueraders. They in themselves just appear different than what they really are and do not necessarily assume the shape and form of someone already known to someone else but they can. It is more likely whatever entity would appear and sound like someone known is a type of this masquerader materializing. Yes, any spirits that are not angels no matter what form they take are demonic. Even then they can appear as angelic since they once were.
joeycastaneda56
Apr 27 2008, 03:24 PM
QUOTE (michael3x6 @ Apr 27 2008, 11:45 AM)

I saw the demon-taking-over-topics
And I thought, can a demon take shape of other organisms?
Like animals and humans

............<<>> Yes demons can take the shapes of humans & animals. They do not have bodies the are (disembodied spirits Matt.12:43-45 Rev:16:13-16)- They can come into our world in spirit form and (imitate the departed dead 1 Sam.28:3-9; 1 Chron.10:13; Isa.8:19; Deut.18:11;) If you have any question feel free to ask Me as I study in this area.........................Joey.
JustNormal
Apr 27 2008, 05:21 PM
I am not sure, but I do know they can mimic human's voices and no one can tell the difference. They are diabolical and have some amazing capabilities. What I saw was a worm, a reddish orange worm. It was on my ceiling in my bedroom. It was maybe a foot long, and moved ever so slowly. It remained in one place, so I grabbed my camera and took a pic of it. At the time I thought it was a sprit, or something pretty cool but now I know better. They can become anything they want, they can appear anyone they choose. Whatever they chose to do, is merely to terrorize we humans..JN
NoahJaymes
Apr 27 2008, 05:31 PM
I'd venture to guess that would be a finger JN, as I said before when you posted in another thread.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Apr 27 2008, 05:42 PM
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Apr 27 2008, 12:21 PM)

I am not sure, but I do know they can mimic human's voices and no one can tell the difference. They are diabolical and have some amazing capabilities. What I saw was a worm, a reddish orange worm. It was on my ceiling in my bedroom. It was maybe a foot long, and moved ever so slowly. It remained in one place, so I grabbed my camera and took a pic of it. At the time I thought it was a sprit, or something pretty cool but now I know better. They can become anything they want, they can appear anyone they choose. Whatever they chose to do, is merely to terrorize we humans..JN
Hey young lady( you know you are one of my favorite belivers). It is hard to make out anything in the pic for me. You know I am the furthest thing from a believer, BUT if I was seeing this stuff
I would get the hell out of dodge. You would see me running down the road screaming "boo ya".
JustNormal
Apr 27 2008, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Apr 27 2008, 05:42 PM)

Hey young lady( you know you are one of my favorite belivers). It is hard to make out anything in the pic for me. You know I am the furthest thing from a believer, BUT if I was seeing this stuff
I would get the hell out of dodge. You would see me running down the road screaming "boo ya".

LOL All I saw with the naked eye was the worm, and almost touched it (glad I didnt now)..I had no idea when I got them developed the amount of misty ecto that went from ceiling to floor. Oddly the photo has been enhanced by Barek, but before that, it was obvious what it was, nasty evil ectoplasm. Needless to say, I never wanted to sleep in there again, but had no choice..BOOO YA...JN
JustNormal
Apr 27 2008, 06:10 PM
QUOTE (CryWolf @ Apr 27 2008, 05:31 PM)

I'd venture to guess that would be a finger JN, as I said before when you posted in another thread.
Hi, Thanks. There is clearly no obstruction such as a finger. You can see the shelf, a trophy, and other things. The only thing that enhanced was the colors. Looking at photo in person, it goes from ceiling to floor and you can see the dresser, so couldnt have been a finger..Thanks..JN
NoahJaymes
Apr 27 2008, 06:15 PM
Hi, thanks for replying. However, you must realize that there doesn't have to be an obstruction of the lens to get that effect, just of the flash. The flash off of the pigment of the finger in itself will cause that effect if situated correctly. Never say never, because it could always be. Thanks..CW
JustNormal
Apr 27 2008, 06:23 PM
QUOTE (CryWolf @ Apr 27 2008, 07:15 PM)

Hi, thanks for replying. However, you must realize that there doesn't have to be an obstruction of the lens to get that effect, just of the flash. The flash off of the pigment of the finger in itself will cause that effect if situated correctly. Never say never, because it could always be. Thanks..CW
There were a few things that were unusual about taking this photo. First, as I said, the worm thing remained on the ceiling for a period of time. I walked up to it, in awe, and it moved slowly. I am too short to reach and touch it. I talked to it and thought WTF is that? I actually came out to another room, grabbed a disposable camera, then back to bedroom I went and it was still there, but had moved a little bit. I aimed and shot from the threshold where there was a tiny bit of light so I could see the worm in the view finder, very faintly. I forgot about it till I went to pick up photos for the PI team to see. They came that same day, and reviewed everything. That one stood out to all of us, cause we couldnt explain it. That is exactly how it happened. I dont think its highly unusual to get ecto in a photo depending on the conditions, then again I am only speaking for myself. The red part on the photo is exactly where the worm was, the rest remains in the eye of the beholder..JN
NoahJaymes
Apr 27 2008, 06:45 PM
The same PI team who basically left you high and dry? The same PI team who took pictures with fingers over flash to give that shadow figure look? You sure it wasn't an inch worm or anything else other than what you claim it to be? I have pondered this severely JN, and this isn't calling you out. Having been investigating for over 10 yrs, If I myself, and several other investigators I have contact with, were ever in your situation, regardless of the financial means, or lack there of, we would have left and gone at least somewhere for a weekend, or hell, even a week. Yet in duration of this "Haunting", if you will, you accrued at the time, 5,000+ posts. So, if you were dealing with a demonic, as hellish as they may seem, if they even exist at all, why would you spend all day and night posting on a message board about the paranormal? Looking back at your posts, you seemed to be joking around, being all lovey dovey, and that sort of thing. While I am not doubting your experiences, well, in a way I am...lets face it, it does seem kinda far fetched that you would, after being basically beaten, pummeled, put in the hospital numerous times, that you would stay put in your house playing on the computer. I mean, during the day you could go pretty much anywhere till you absolutely had to go back home. Just my thoughts on the matter.....as I am sure will be scrutinized, tossed aside, or otherwise a mod-requested viewing.
JustNormal
Apr 27 2008, 07:16 PM
QUOTE (CryWolf @ Apr 27 2008, 06:45 PM)

The same PI team who basically left you high and dry? The same PI team who took pictures with fingers over flash to give that shadow figure look? You sure it wasn't an inch worm or anything else other than what you claim it to be? I have pondered this severely JN, and this isn't calling you out. Having been investigating for over 10 yrs, If I myself, and several other investigators I have contact with, were ever in your situation, regardless of the financial means, or lack there of, we would have left and gone at least somewhere for a weekend, or hell, even a week. Yet in duration of this "Haunting", if you will, you accrued at the time, 5,000+ posts. So, if you were dealing with a demonic, as hellish as they may seem, if they even exist at all, why would you spend all day and night posting on a message board about the paranormal? Looking back at your posts, you seemed to be joking around, being all lovey dovey, and that sort of thing. While I am not doubting your experiences, well, in a way I am...lets face it, it does seem kinda far fetched that you would, after being basically beaten, pummeled, put in the hospital numerous times, that you would stay put in your house playing on the computer. I mean, during the day you could go pretty much anywhere till you absolutely had to go back home. Just my thoughts on the matter.....as I am sure will be scrutinized, tossed aside, or otherwise a mod-requested viewing.
I never gave credit to that PI team except for the investigation itself, not the aftermath. They left me high and dry. This was my photo, and mine alone and I know the circumstances. See, just because I was going thru Hell I had two choices. I could isolate myself, keep it bottled up till I lost my mind. OR I could share on a daily basis on here what was transpiring. I save myself with humor, thats my thing. Also, as I said, I made a promise to God that I would put it out there once and for all, and I did just that. I am a very strong willed person, and I am also very proud of myself for the way I handeled this, as everyone is different. As I said before, my horror allowed me to help others on here and in real life, and that is what its all about. For those who dont believe me or judge me, you have to walk a mile in my shoes before you even fathom a guess of what I was feeling. This was the only safe haven back then, and to this day, I dont care who doesnt believe me. What did you want me to do, how did you expect me to act? I was horrified on a daily basis, and this is where it landed. JN
-=LadyV=-
Apr 27 2008, 07:29 PM
Q - "Can demons take shape of other organisms?"
A - To me, anything is possable since no one has concrete answers to anything, only interpreted information and a set of beliefs over past evaluations.
-- How is it most demon/ghost related threads morph in to a select fews personal stomping grounds, with little to no attention paid to the OP?
NoahJaymes
Apr 27 2008, 07:34 PM
So your promise to God landed you on an internet journy of self fullfilling "Goodness" of informing the world of the harsh reality of demonic type hauntings, when you at first had no idea what it was in the first place. This is looking back at your first thread on the subject. The same thread where you contradicted yourself 12 times and got so angry you had it closed. Do you realize that when you get defensive, it is a sign of guilt, guilt that is perhaps driven by the fact that some of what you say may not be true or otherwise exaggerated? Is this the same promise you made to God about helping to use your "talents", to help the Dade County Police Department find a missing person when you live all the way up in Mass and they in Florida?
Continue the good fight JN, in all honesty, we need these things to keep US on our toes.
SS79
Apr 27 2008, 07:37 PM
QUOTE (michael3x6 @ Apr 27 2008, 12:45 PM)

I saw the demon-taking-over-topics
And I thought, can a demon take shape of other organisms?
Like animals and humans

Since i believe they only exist in the minds of humans. then i guess those who believe in them could make them take any form they so wished .
Jn do you have the original copy of that picture before barek enhanced it .
JustNormal
Apr 27 2008, 07:41 PM
QUOTE (CryWolf @ Apr 27 2008, 07:34 PM)

So your promise to God landed you on an internet journy of self fullfilling "Goodness" of informing the world of the harsh reality of demonic type hauntings, when you at first had no idea what it was in the first place. This is looking back at your first thread on the subject. The same thread where you contradicted yourself 12 times and got so angry you had it closed. Do you realize that when you get defensive, it is a sign of guilt, guilt that is perhaps driven by the fact that some of what you say may not be true or otherwise exaggerated? Is this the same promise you made to God about helping to use your "talents", to help the Dade County Police Department find a missing person when you live all the way up in Mass and they in Florida?
Continue the good fight JN, in all honesty, we need these things to keep US on our toes.
I dont know why you are pushing me again Noah, but it seems you enjoy it. Of course I had no idea what it was to begin with. I knew it was a haunting and it was dangerous. I also thought Demons were evil people who once lived. I learned a great deal of info on here and thru my Demonologist and his team. I have helped NINE people/families and guided them in the right direction, and that shows me that good wins over evil. I dont see you helping or suggesting anything to those out there in crisis? Being defensive is part of being frustrated, not guilt and guilty of what? LOL..Lets not derail this thread, its not about me, I just posted a worm photo. End of story..JN
NoahJaymes
Apr 27 2008, 07:48 PM
I enjoy it when I am right, and I am. What do you think feeds me this motivation? Perhaps the fan mail I get from it, I don't know.
You don't see me helping those out there in crisis? Nah, pfft..just a paranormal investigator that happens to lead 15 ACTIVE investigators, who at one time lead a team of 26 invesetigators, who has consulted in a book, who happens be writing his own book, and who's team has gone the distance and cleansed 6 families just because we felt it was the right thing to do in their situation. I also have someone who is well versed in demonology, who is actually quite exceptional in all aspects of what he does. We have done a lot of good things in this field, and we will continue to do so. While you sit behind a screen and gain sympathy and suggest you help, I am out in there in the battlefield doing something about it. Now that....is the end of the story.....CW OUT!
Saru
Apr 27 2008, 08:23 PM
Back on topic please, lets not derail the thread with personal disputes.
Thank you.
NoahJaymes
Apr 27 2008, 08:42 PM
Figured it would get to that, can I call it or what

Sorry if I hurt anyones feelings with what is apparent..back on topic I go....
As someone said, "Since i believe they only exist in the minds of humans. then i guess those who believe in them could make them take any form they so wished ."
My thoughts exactly.
JustNormal
Apr 27 2008, 09:25 PM
QUOTE (SS79 @ Apr 27 2008, 07:37 PM)

Since i believe they only exist in the minds of humans. then i guess those who believe in them could make them take any form they so wished .
Jn do you have the original copy of that picture before barek enhanced it .
Hi SS, Nice to see you. I did have that entire disk loaded, but that was over a year ago, so will have to see if I can locate it in my pc or find the CD..If I find it, I will post it..Take care..JN
Solarbite
Apr 27 2008, 09:41 PM
Anyone interested in the subject of demons should read: "The Beautiful Side Of Evil". It's a first hand account of a woman who was haunted by demons on a regular basis.
primordial
Apr 28 2008, 05:05 AM
There is a horrible demon statue at an museum in upright posture with a dog's head, lion's paws, eagle's feet and a scorpion's tail. You may have seen the statue in The Exorcist.
Aanica
Apr 28 2008, 06:00 AM
QUOTE (AlucardXX @ Apr 27 2008, 06:59 AM)

They can't possibly morph into a real person speech and all, never hear of an encounter like this, there's always a difference between the impostor and the real one, subtle but you can tell its not them ,somehow. Now an animal its a more easier form to take I think and can be done without you noticing, you probably say "Oh its just another cat out there".
they can be anything they want, they come in many forms depending on their speciality ( this is in the demon book on the web)
Shankpin
Apr 28 2008, 06:26 AM
I think there are different legions all assigned to different things (weaknesses- in order to breakdown)... like the angels, whose jobs are to do certain tasks.. same goes for the demonic.
Azalin
Apr 28 2008, 02:24 PM
A demonic entity can choose to look like whatever it wishes. It is indeed a spirit in our world, as is an Angel. Most Demons, if wanting to take a form it will assume one that is most grotesque, out of fear. However, if trying to persuade you into being a friend, it could take on much different forms, perhaps that of deceased loved ones, pets, and so fourth. Although the Devil himself is said to look much like the Demonic form of a Satyr with a pitchfork and tail, ( Commonly known as Pan ) he has other common forms. These forms being that of a beautiful man with flawless features, his angelic form. The other popular one being that of a Raven. ( much like Pluto of Roman Myth, and Hades of Greek )
God Bless, Azalin
Ignus Fatus
Apr 28 2008, 02:36 PM
come meet my sister
michael3x6
Apr 28 2008, 03:26 PM
Thanks ya'll
How do you recognize a demon as an organism?
Like marks or tiny horns....
JustNormal
Apr 28 2008, 05:54 PM
QUOTE (Azalin @ Apr 28 2008, 03:24 PM)

A demonic entity can choose to look like whatever it wishes. It is indeed a spirit in our world, as is an Angel. Most Demons, if wanting to take a form it will assume one that is most grotesque, out of fear. However, if trying to persuade you into being a friend, it could take on much different forms, perhaps that of deceased loved ones, pets, and so fourth. Although the Devil himself is said to look much like the Demonic form of a Satyr with a pitchfork and tail, ( Commonly known as Pan ) he has other common forms. These forms being that of a beautiful man with flawless features, his angelic form. The other popular one being that of a Raven. ( much like Pluto of Roman Myth, and Hades of Greek )
God Bless, Azalin
Agreed, finally a voice of reason. Thanks Azalin..JN
Lord Storm
Apr 28 2008, 07:58 PM
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Apr 28 2008, 05:54 PM)

Agreed, finally a voice of reason. Thanks Azalin..JN
Yea what you just said
JustNormal
Apr 28 2008, 10:10 PM
SS79
Apr 28 2008, 10:32 PM
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Apr 27 2008, 10:25 PM)

Hi SS, Nice to see you. I did have that entire disk loaded, but that was over a year ago, so will have to see if I can locate it in my pc or find the CD..If I find it, I will post it..Take care..JN
Nice to see you too Jn . hope your feeling better .
That would be great if you could find it .
I know that sometimes enhancing them makes them clearer but in that shot its just all a blur reallly and unless you were there and saw it. I think its prety hard to expect anyone to take it as anything other than a heavily pixellated, colourful blur lol . well thats all i see anyway .
Did you ever post the original here before barek enhanced it ? Maybe i could skip back through the threads and find it . would be interesting to see the original .
JustNormal
Apr 28 2008, 11:18 PM
QUOTE (SS79 @ Apr 28 2008, 11:32 PM)

Nice to see you too Jn . hope your feeling better .
That would be great if you could find it .
I know that sometimes enhancing them makes them clearer but in that shot its just all a blur reallly and unless you were there and saw it. I think its prety hard to expect anyone to take it as anything other than a heavily pixellated, colourful blur lol . well thats all i see anyway .
Did you ever post the original here before barek enhanced it ? Maybe i could skip back through the threads and find it . would be interesting to see the original .
Hi SS, Thanks and I am feeling better finally. I did post the original on here, and then Barek enhanced it. I had no idea how to even upload images then but yes I did. I told the story of the "worm" then posted the photo. I just remember it being all grainy and red, as the original photo which I have but no scanner..UGH..Let me know if you can find it. I looked last night but can only find a few from last April..Thanks..JN
Shankpin
Apr 28 2008, 11:30 PM
QUOTE (Azalin @ Apr 28 2008, 09:24 AM)

A demonic entity can choose to look like whatever it wishes. It is indeed a spirit in our world, as is an Angel. Most Demons, if wanting to take a form it will assume one that is most grotesque, out of fear. However, if trying to persuade you into being a friend, it could take on much different forms, perhaps that of deceased loved ones, pets, and so fourth. Although the Devil himself is said to look much like the Demonic form of a Satyr with a pitchfork and tail, ( Commonly known as Pan ) he has other common forms. These forms being that of a beautiful man with flawless features, his angelic form. The other popular one being that of a Raven. ( much like Pluto of Roman Myth, and Hades of Greek )
God Bless, Azalin
Always so good to see you here, Azalin.
Interesting.. very interesting.
SS79
Apr 28 2008, 11:38 PM
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Apr 29 2008, 12:18 AM)

Hi SS, Thanks and I am feeling better finally. I did post the original on here, and then Barek enhanced it. I had no idea how to even upload images then but yes I did. I told the story of the "worm" then posted the photo. I just remember it being all grainy and red, as the original photo which I have but no scanner..UGH..Let me know if you can find it. I looked last night but can only find a few from last April..Thanks..JN
Ah okay . thanks if i get a few spare minutes later . (someone has to clean the kitchen . unfortunatly they don't self clean lol ) I will try too get it up .
When you say you remember it being grainy and red . is that the original. because I was really only interested in finding it because you said before it was edited it was obvious it was "nasty evil ecto" . which peaked my curiosity . if its gonna be grainy again it may not be worth me looking for it .
But thanks for your response .
Shankpin
Apr 29 2008, 02:01 AM
I would like to see that original Jn, if you still have it.... (I can't tell whats going on with that one Barek tweaked.. )
btw, good to see you back!
Methos1
Apr 29 2008, 02:19 AM
QUOTE (Azalin @ Apr 28 2008, 09:24 AM)

A demonic entity can choose to look like whatever it wishes. It is indeed a spirit in our world, as is an Angel. Most Demons, if wanting to take a form it will assume one that is most grotesque, out of fear. However, if trying to persuade you into being a friend, it could take on much different forms, perhaps that of deceased loved ones, pets, and so fourth. Although the Devil himself is said to look much like the Demonic form of a Satyr with a pitchfork and tail, ( Commonly known as Pan ) he has other common forms. These forms being that of a beautiful man with flawless features, his angelic form. The other popular one being that of a Raven. ( much like Pluto of Roman Myth, and Hades of Greek )
God Bless, Azalin
Just to add my two cents.The more powerful the demonic entity is,the more shapes it can take and materialize around it.
Shankpin
Apr 29 2008, 02:21 AM
I believe they also have their own intellectual levels as with anything else.. some are stupid, others are much more brilliant.
SS79
Apr 29 2008, 02:22 AM
I think i may have found it . heres the lnk to the thread . and i'll try to upload the pic itself . Is this the original JN ??
Post with picEdit . wont allow me to upload the pic so you 'll have to click that link .
NoahJaymes
Apr 29 2008, 02:33 AM
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