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GabrielArkAngel
****ing b******.... Why the hell would someone do that? Denying a child her own right to see the goddamn sun.....
yvan
I hope they punish that old man good. Death or something
goalienan
QUOTE (glorybebe @ May 1 2008, 07:33 PM) *
So true, I wonder what we are going to find out next?



This is probably just the tip of what's to come and I hope the media keeps up with it...I'm still amazed that the mother had no idea what was going on...Possibly the story is going to change on alot of the issues...ugh and the old man looks like such a freakin derelict it's sickening...
glorybebe
QUOTE (goalienan @ May 1 2008, 12:51 PM) *
This is probably just the tip of what's to come and I hope the media keeps up with it...I'm still amazed that the mother had no idea what was going on...Possibly the story is going to change on alot of the issues...ugh and the old man looks like such a freakin derelict it's sickening...


I know. His picture gives me the creeps. His eyes seem dead. And I wouldn't doubt it is the tip of the iceberg. If they are investigating him for a murder, they may start looking up other unsolved murders, too.
Quill
QUOTE (glorybebe @ May 1 2008, 04:30 PM) *
His eyes seem dead.


I thought the same thing.
His eyes are so blank. Void.

glorybebe
QUOTE (Quill @ May 1 2008, 04:27 PM) *
I thought the same thing.
His eyes are so blank. Void.


Just a freaky looking man.

And now, according to CNN, the investigators are looking for other rooms in the cellar. There must be other missing persons, so they aare trying to see if he is responsible for them.
goalienan
QUOTE (glorybebe @ May 1 2008, 06:33 PM) *
So true, I wonder what we are going to find out next?



I read that his son was also spotted going into the cellar with him, and that they are looking into a past murder that he may have been involved in.....Also, because of his threat to those downstairs that he would gas them if they tried to escape, they were looking into that..
Fluffybunny
This is the kind of thing that they make really bad horror movies about... It is hard to imagine what happened all those years, and I dont really care to know, but for the poor kids that are involved they have no choice in the matter...geez. How sick does a person have to be to do something like that?
goalienan
QUOTE (Fluffybunny @ May 2 2008, 03:46 PM) *
This is the kind of thing that they make really bad horror movies about... It is hard to imagine what happened all those years, and I dont really care to know, but for the poor kids that are involved they have no choice in the matter...geez. How sick does a person have to be to do something like that?



You know what Fluffy, I can't imagine the worse horror movie being compared to this...As others said, his eyes look blank, dead, and yet they say he was a very smart, intelligent, individual, add that on to the diabolical mind that he has and it goes beyond sick....
glorybebe
QUOTE (goalienan @ May 2 2008, 09:27 AM) *
You know what Fluffy, I can't imagine the worse horror movie being compared to this...As others said, his eyes look blank, dead, and yet they say he was a very smart, intelligent, individual, add that on to the diabolical mind that he has and it goes beyond sick....


It really makes me wonder about him being so intelligent and being so sadistic. Yet, that is a reoccurring element in a lot of crimes.
Fluffybunny
QUOTE (goalienan @ May 2 2008, 09:27 AM) *
You know what Fluffy, I can't imagine the worse horror movie being compared to this...As others said, his eyes look blank, dead, and yet they say he was a very smart, intelligent, individual, add that on to the diabolical mind that he has and it goes beyond sick....

I was watching a show the other night on serial murderers, the BTK, Dahmer, all the big ones...they all had the same thing going for them, the part of the brain that allows for empathy just simply was not there. Other human beings had no more emotional calculation that a person that steps on an ant on a sidewalk, but even worse than that in that they took pleasure in others horror and pain; it was like some sick experiment. They played the court tapes of the BTK killers description of the murders of several of the women, and you would have thought by the tone of his voice he was giving a stranger directions to the nearest gas station; there was not the slightest hint of emotion as he went through each of the murders-nothing. Other humans just simply dont factor in; they are a part of the world and these folks have to watch other people to learn how to act around them.

I cant imagine one night in this monsters captivity...but 24 years?
glorybebe
QUOTE (Fluffybunny @ May 2 2008, 10:13 AM) *
I was watching a show the other night on serial murderers, the BTK, Dahmer, all the big ones...they all had the same thing going for them, the part of the brain that allows for empathy just simply was not there. Other human beings had no more emotional calculation that a person that steps on an ant on a sidewalk, but even worse than that in that they took pleasure in others horror and pain; it was like some sick experiment. They played the court tapes of the BTK killers description of the murders of several of the women, and you would have thought by the tone of his voice he was giving a stranger directions to the nearest gas station; there was not the slightest hint of emotion as he went through each of the murders-nothing. Other humans just simply dont factor in; they are a part of the world and these folks have to watch other people to learn how to act around them.

I cant imagine one night in this monsters captivity...but 24 years?


That's why they say that his daughter will never get over it, she was too traumitzed, and will not be able to have a 'normal' life now.
goalienan
QUOTE (glorybebe @ May 2 2008, 06:16 PM) *
That's why they say that his daughter will never get over it, she was too traumitzed, and will not be able to have a 'normal' life now.



Sad isn't it, and he keeps emphasizing that he did nothing wrong........
glorybebe
QUOTE (goalienan @ May 2 2008, 11:00 AM) *
Sad isn't it, and he keeps emphasizing that he did nothing wrong........

Did nothing wrong...nice. He really needs to be put in general public in prison, let the other convicts deal with him. Sick b******.
NewReader
Here is a comment that I would like to make
about Josef Fritzl and his wife Rosemarie ...

Clearly that “person” (and one has to stretch the
definition of the word “person” in order to apply
it to that creature) known to the world as Josef
Fritzl was / is the DEVIL-INCARNATE ---- AND
he should burn in h*ll for all of eternity for his evil.

In addition, it also needs to be stated that no person
on earth should allow themselves be fooled for
even one moment by the lies of “I didn’t know”
that are currently being claimed by that lying
and equally evil wife of this evil DEVIL!!!

That vile, evil, perverted, disgusting, devil
b**tch of a wife of that MONSTER KNEW!!

SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!!

She KNEW the whole time (or at least had
literally no excuse whatsoever to have not
at least ‘suspected’ something was amiss!!!)

She is a LIAR and she must think the entire world is
as perverted as both she and her husband are and
that by coming up with that ridiculous and flimsy
excuse that she can then convince the rest of
the world to then respond to her own complicity
the same way she chose to respond to that of
her husband’s evil -- by 'turning a blind eye'.

BOTH of them are utter DEVILS and one
cannot help but to hope that they both burn
in h*ll for all of eternity for their evil acts!!!!

She expects anyone on this planet who has even
half-a-brain-stem to believe for even one fraction
of a moment that she didn't know anything at all?!?!

Give me a break!!!

For crying out loud--unless this woman is Helen
Keller --she has NO EXCUSE at all to not have
known (or at least ’suspected’) something strange
and conspiratorial was going on regarding her
daughter’s whereabouts and situation and that the
husband’s stories were just far too incredulous
and absolutely made no sense in the least bit!!!

After all -- think about it -- daughter runs away as a
very young teen; daughter mysteriously disappears
at the age of 18 (an age when she can both make
her own decisions and choose to get away from
her father and even bring charges against him); the
(convicted-rapist/arsonist) father gets a letter from
daughter 1 month after her disappearance which
ridiculously claims she has joined a cult and does
not want to have any contact with the family – yet
amazingly then later chooses (for 3 years in a row)
to simply leave 3 of her newborn babies on the
doorstep of very home that she tried to run away
from at least 2 X's before and is "allegedly thought"
to have finally left in order to join some sort of
“phantom” cult (a "cult" which, unlike every other
cult, just somehow, seemingly has no desire to try
to indoctrinate the youth from birth, but rather it
simply allows it's members to select a home --one
which in fact, is both not a part of the cult AND is
the very home from which the member ran in order
to join the cult ---to raise their babies and kids of
the cult members) --ALL THE WHILE – the father
forbids ANYONE to ever for ANY REASON dare to
go ANYWHERE NEAR the mysterious basement
(which he always keeps locked, disappears to for
hours and days on end; has ‘unseen’ bathroom
equipment installed; and has a cement-barricaded
door installed which both has a security-code and
which was so complicated it needed inspection
by local government authorities in order to install).

Just 2 years before the “discovery” of what this
monster (and his devil wife via her complicity of
silence) did to their poor child – another young girl,
and former kidnap victim, was also found in Austria.

It was discovered that the other young kidnap /
rape victim had disappeared 8 years earlier and
had been held in a basement / dungeon where
she had been repeatedly raped the entire time
by the individual who had also kidnapped her.

Now ---- even if the public was expected to
simply throw all common sense to the wind
and accept this monster’s devil-wife’s excuse
that she “didn’t know”, say, in the beginning …
it still stands to reason that after hearing about
the case of the other young girl 2 years earlier
----- this creep’s equally creepy wife would
have said something to herself like, say …

”””Hmmm … a young girl who disappeared 8 years
ago, out of no where, has been discovered
to have been held in a basement the entire
time and while there she was repeatedly
raped by the person who trapped her there.

Hmmm … my daughter, who repeatedly tried
to run away from my convicted-rapist husband
as a child has also mysteriously disappeared
– and – my convicted-rapist husband is
always coming across both ‘letters’ and
‘grandchildren’ that were allegedly left
by my daughter (who has vanished
without a trace) -- and – meanwhile
my convicted-rapist husband also
has a mysterious basement that he
keeps under lock and key and never
allows anyone to come near -- ever.

Hmmm … now I cannot help but to wonder
if that convicted-rapist husband I married
just may have had something to do with
the disappearance of our daughter – and
-- the appearance of all these grandkids
and letters – and I also can’t help but to
wonder if that mystery-basement room
of his would, in some way / in any way,
be connected somehow to our child’s
disappearance and / or the mysterious
appearance of all of these grandchildren.”””

Yes – one would think that – even if this woman
could have claimed ‘ignorance’ earlier – (a lie
which, again, no one with any common sense
should ever consider buying into) – once the
discovery was made of a similar situation 2
years earlier – she then had NO excuse to not
have at least been suspicious of something
about her convicted-rapist husband and his
ever-so-mysterious hidden basement room.

That vicious devil simply did not care at all about
her own daughter – or -- she simply cared more
about her own creature-comforts and keeping up
with her middle-class appearances than she did
about the torture being done to her own child.

THAT POOR GIRL’S VILE, DISGUSTING
PERVERTED LYING B*TCH OF A MOTHER
KNEW FULL WELL WHAT WAS GOING ON
-- SHE KNEW-- SHE KNEW-- SHE KNEW!!!

THAT WIFE IS A B*TCH, A DEVIL AND A
VILE PERVERT AND ONE CANNOT HELP
BUT TO TRULY HOPE THAT--- SINCE SHE
OBVIOUSLY FELT SOME STRANGE NEED
TO BE SO VERY LOYAL TO THAT DEVIL,
OF A PERVERTED CONVICTED-RAPIST
AND ARSONIST FREAK OF A HUSBAND
OF HERS AND TO CHOOSE TO STAND BY
HIS SIDE FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY
ALL THE WHILE THAT HE IMPRISONED
AND ALSO SEXUALLY AND PHYSICALLY
AND MENTALLY TORTURED THEIR
CHILD --- SHE WILL REMAINS BY
HIS SIDE AS THEY BOTH BURN
IN H*LL FOR ALL OF ETERNITY!!

She is clearly as much of a
pervert and devil as is he!!

Would anyone even be remotely surprised
if further investigation later revealed that
‘Rosemarie Fritzl’ (who is actually trying to
get the world to see her as a co-victim of
her daughter’s horrific nightmare of a life)
was actually just another ‘Rosemary West’
(a woman whose husband also originally –
and falsely – claimed that she had nothing
to do with his unbelievably evil sex crimes)?

What kind of a woman, after all, chooses to marry
(or remained married to) a man who had already
committed and also been convicted of previously
raping another woman and has shown absolutely
no remorse about any of it whatsoever in the least.

SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!!

ThePitOfReason
I agree he is a sicko beyond a single doubt and his wife had to suspect things were wrong. Looking into the photos of this couple I don’t think she the wife had all of her smarts anyway she looks a bit off her rocker. The husband well if you met him on the street could you tell? He needs to be placed in a basement like this and paid a visit by a 350 Bubba everyday that has an addiction for ****** and men.
Denzanrom
Aw c'mon! The "I didn't know"-but actually did know is an old excuse to get out of trouble.

It seems crazy that he could've kept her in the cellar for 24 years alright but there are just some people out there...
Some people can only dream of doing this stuff but put in the fact that he was intelligent and had a lack of empathy there was technically no stopping himself from doing this stuff.

Truly the devil does exist.
mfrmboy
I wonder what the mother thought of him taking groceries, toilet paper, diapers and supplies down into the basement. It would seem a bit suspicious.
Even if she was a little off in the head.
She would haft to be a complete blind, deaf and dumb idiot not to suspect something was up.

Oderint
I wonder why the police don't just hire everyone on the internet. obviously we/you know alot more about what happened than the people who have done the investigations rolleyes.gif
zimbob
I too think the Wife is an accomplice.

People survived the holocaust and managed to get on with their lives so hopefully with counselling and medication this woman can return to some form of normality, people can and do recover.

I suspect that we haven’t heard the last of horror stories like this, I know it's a different situation but it reminds me of the bit in Pulp Fiction when Willis and Rhames are held prisoner and Zed orders his henchman to bring out the Gimp, it's a classic example that you just don’t know what people get upto behind closed doors.

In the UK we had a married couple called Fred and Rose West, they basically tortured, violated and killed numerous young women including their own daughter and concreted them into the floor of their basement and buried them under the Garden patio, the neighbours didn’t even suspect anything like this was gong on and to be honest you wouldn’t would you, it's just beyond comprehension.
Ecchi
Woah thats one of the worst things i ever heard of...
cateyes221981
the wife is kicked out and is not allowed to see her kids, the Liz fritzl hates her mother




Any other updates on this story?
little_dreamer
I volunteer to travel to Austria to stomp on this guy in prison. I mean: I am really angry about it.
theghost
I guess I'm finally dumbfounded for words of my disscus. no.gif
theghost
QUOTE (snackfood @ Aug 27 2008, 04:33 PM) *
I volunteer to travel to Austria to stomp on this guy in prison. I mean: I am really angry about it.

Man I got some heavy steel toed combat boots that I'm willing to give to you if you send them back to me with his blood on them. :yes:Just leave the blood of that Evil taliban who I shot for shooting at us when I was there. grin2.gif
theghost
QUOTE (NewReader @ Aug 15 2008, 03:41 PM) *
Here is a comment that I would like to make
about Josef Fritzl and his wife Rosemarie ...

Clearly that “person” (and one has to stretch the
definition of the word “person” in order to apply
it to that creature) known to the world as Josef
Fritzl was / is the DEVIL-INCARNATE ---- AND
he should burn in h*ll for all of eternity for his evil.

In addition, it also needs to be stated that no person
on earth should allow themselves be fooled for
even one moment by the lies of “I didn’t know”
that are currently being claimed by that lying
and equally evil wife of this evil DEVIL!!!

That vile, evil, perverted, disgusting, devil
b**tch of a wife of that MONSTER KNEW!!

SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!!

She KNEW the whole time (or at least had
literally no excuse whatsoever to have not
at least ‘suspected’ something was amiss!!!)

She is a LIAR and she must think the entire world is
as perverted as both she and her husband are and
that by coming up with that ridiculous and flimsy
excuse that she can then convince the rest of
the world to then respond to her own complicity
the same way she chose to respond to that of
her husband’s evil -- by 'turning a blind eye'.

BOTH of them are utter DEVILS and one
cannot help but to hope that they both burn
in h*ll for all of eternity for their evil acts!!!!

She expects anyone on this planet who has even
half-a-brain-stem to believe for even one fraction
of a moment that she didn't know anything at all?!?!

Give me a break!!!

For crying out loud--unless this woman is Helen
Keller --she has NO EXCUSE at all to not have
known (or at least ’suspected’) something strange
and conspiratorial was going on regarding her
daughter’s whereabouts and situation and that the
husband’s stories were just far too incredulous
and absolutely made no sense in the least bit!!!

After all -- think about it -- daughter runs away as a
very young teen; daughter mysteriously disappears
at the age of 18 (an age when she can both make
her own decisions and choose to get away from
her father and even bring charges against him); the
(convicted-rapist/arsonist) father gets a letter from
daughter 1 month after her disappearance which
ridiculously claims she has joined a cult and does
not want to have any contact with the family – yet
amazingly then later chooses (for 3 years in a row)
to simply leave 3 of her newborn babies on the
doorstep of very home that she tried to run away
from at least 2 X's before and is "allegedly thought"
to have finally left in order to join some sort of
“phantom” cult (a "cult" which, unlike every other
cult, just somehow, seemingly has no desire to try
to indoctrinate the youth from birth, but rather it
simply allows it's members to select a home --one
which in fact, is both not a part of the cult AND is
the very home from which the member ran in order
to join the cult ---to raise their babies and kids of
the cult members) --ALL THE WHILE – the father
forbids ANYONE to ever for ANY REASON dare to
go ANYWHERE NEAR the mysterious basement
(which he always keeps locked, disappears to for
hours and days on end; has ‘unseen’ bathroom
equipment installed; and has a cement-barricaded
door installed which both has a security-code and
which was so complicated it needed inspection
by local government authorities in order to install).

Just 2 years before the “discovery” of what this
monster (and his devil wife via her complicity of
silence) did to their poor child – another young girl,
and former kidnap victim, was also found in Austria.

It was discovered that the other young kidnap /
rape victim had disappeared 8 years earlier and
had been held in a basement / dungeon where
she had been repeatedly raped the entire time
by the individual who had also kidnapped her.

Now ---- even if the public was expected to
simply throw all common sense to the wind
and accept this monster’s devil-wife’s excuse
that she “didn’t know”, say, in the beginning …
it still stands to reason that after hearing about
the case of the other young girl 2 years earlier
----- this creep’s equally creepy wife would
have said something to herself like, say …

”””Hmmm … a young girl who disappeared 8 years
ago, out of no where, has been discovered
to have been held in a basement the entire
time and while there she was repeatedly
raped by the person who trapped her there.

Hmmm … my daughter, who repeatedly tried
to run away from my convicted-rapist husband
as a child has also mysteriously disappeared
– and – my convicted-rapist husband is
always coming across both ‘letters’ and
‘grandchildren’ that were allegedly left
by my daughter (who has vanished
without a trace) -- and – meanwhile
my convicted-rapist husband also
has a mysterious basement that he
keeps under lock and key and never
allows anyone to come near -- ever.

Hmmm … now I cannot help but to wonder
if that convicted-rapist husband I married
just may have had something to do with
the disappearance of our daughter – and
-- the appearance of all these grandkids
and letters – and I also can’t help but to
wonder if that mystery-basement room
of his would, in some way / in any way,
be connected somehow to our child’s
disappearance and / or the mysterious
appearance of all of these grandchildren.”””

Yes – one would think that – even if this woman
could have claimed ‘ignorance’ earlier – (a lie
which, again, no one with any common sense
should ever consider buying into) – once the
discovery was made of a similar situation 2
years earlier – she then had NO excuse to not
have at least been suspicious of something
about her convicted-rapist husband and his
ever-so-mysterious hidden basement room.

That vicious devil simply did not care at all about
her own daughter – or -- she simply cared more
about her own creature-comforts and keeping up
with her middle-class appearances than she did
about the torture being done to her own child.

THAT POOR GIRL’S VILE, DISGUSTING
PERVERTED LYING B*TCH OF A MOTHER
KNEW FULL WELL WHAT WAS GOING ON
-- SHE KNEW-- SHE KNEW-- SHE KNEW!!!

THAT WIFE IS A B*TCH, A DEVIL AND A
VILE PERVERT AND ONE CANNOT HELP
BUT TO TRULY HOPE THAT--- SINCE SHE
OBVIOUSLY FELT SOME STRANGE NEED
TO BE SO VERY LOYAL TO THAT DEVIL,
OF A PERVERTED CONVICTED-RAPIST
AND ARSONIST FREAK OF A HUSBAND
OF HERS AND TO CHOOSE TO STAND BY
HIS SIDE FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY
ALL THE WHILE THAT HE IMPRISONED
AND ALSO SEXUALLY AND PHYSICALLY
AND MENTALLY TORTURED THEIR
CHILD --- SHE WILL REMAINS BY
HIS SIDE AS THEY BOTH BURN
IN H*LL FOR ALL OF ETERNITY!!

She is clearly as much of a
pervert and devil as is he!!

Would anyone even be remotely surprised
if further investigation later revealed that
‘Rosemarie Fritzl’ (who is actually trying to
get the world to see her as a co-victim of
her daughter’s horrific nightmare of a life)
was actually just another ‘Rosemary West’
(a woman whose husband also originally –
and falsely – claimed that she had nothing
to do with his unbelievably evil sex crimes)?

What kind of a woman, after all, chooses to marry
(or remained married to) a man who had already
committed and also been convicted of previously
raping another woman and has shown absolutely
no remorse about any of it whatsoever in the least.

SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!!

Yes she did,were not stupid,now that is a post!! thumbsup.gif
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