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Bajillic
HI. I am sharing information that a good friend Jerry has been receiving from Steve Fossett the missing adventurer who went missing last September when flying over Nevada. PLease read the flowing to understand what happened. It is out there but do not try to agree or disagree, just absorb it and let it be.. This is not meant to upset anyone but rather resonate with those who are meant to be able tho grasp the possibility of such a thing happening. This will not make sense to many and that is the way it is meant to be. For those who it clicks with - enjoy...
March 25, 2008

This transmission is an attempt by Steve Fossett to communicate after he disappeared on September 3, 2007.

My name is Steven Fossett. On September 3, 2007, while I was flying over the Nevada desert, I was directed to a place of undetermined origin, which at this time, I must be quite vague about. This place allowed me to enter a creosonic portal. This portal forms a folded vacuum into a much higher frequency, which allows me to experience a whole new concept of living. I was asked if I would travel into this opening into a higher frequency and share my experience with others. I decided to take on this huge task.
It has been very interesting with the people I can communicate with from here. There are many more out there that are capable of breaking through this frequency barrier than I realized. Now that the Earth has started a new adventure into a more complex way of functioning, there will be many new processes that we have never experienced before as we go into this new time period. I am in touch with my wife and some of my friends. I will be in this condition for some time, until I adapt to this higher frequency. What I would like to do with the ones I can connect with is to have some of them, with their permission, to join me to experience what I'm going through, because there is no possible way this can be explained from where you preside at this time. It does not matter how open you are to new phenomena, without experiencing it on your own, you will never have a full understanding of this experience.
When you get into this new energetic field, you have no physical or mental weight holding you down. Therefore, it is very hard to return to the normal life you had prior to this. I'm not sure if I will return or not, it all depends on where I can do the most good. Apparently, I was picked before my birth for this project. This is why I have led such a dramatic life, with all the projects and experiences I have gone through.
I have been playing around for some time with the understanding of how to enter into this creosonic. On September 5th, I finally was able to travel into one of these voids. Everything in this voided collage has to be experienced and reacted to in a whole different manner than you normally use in a third dimensional program. Simple things like walking upstairs or drinking from a glass of water and compensating for centrifugal force. Everything has to be rewritten from the norm that you are used to. The fact that you don't have to deal with mental or physical weight is a big plus. All your thoughts are in a pure form and have no destructive force behind them. Your physical body has absolutely no discomfort. Every move you make is very pure and precise. There isn't a real easy way to explain this procedure because of the lack of referrals that are available. My dilemma is whether to return to my original physical state and deal with the denseness and discomfort. Returning does not seem very promising to me.
JB: Are you able to pick up on my transmission at this time? Okay, let's give it a try and see if you can pick up on my questions. What is the reason you have taken on this project? Is this something that you have been planning for a long time and are their alien beings involved?
Stephen: First thing, I have a question. Yes, I am picking up on your transmission but am not quite sure how this is taking place. Are you working through a computer? Okay, I heard that and it seems to be working very well. All is coming through very clear. You asked me why I have taken on this project. Apparently, from what I am receiving from my Pleiatian friends over here, is that this has been in the planning stage prior to my birth. Some of us at this time apparently are being groomed to guide the ones that are crossing over to the new wave link. This new wave link is a beginning of a frequency that we will all be part of in the near future. There is no way to describe the feeling that I have been introduced to into this new dimension.
I see you've just noticed how time is enhanced by quite a bit while we are communicating. Also, there are a number of you at this time that have been chosen, with your permission, to experience what I am going through in this transformation inlock that is in the process at this time. I would suggest you not drink water while you're working in this new timeline that you are experiencing at the moment. The reason you coughed when you took a drink is that you are not swallowing in coordination with pouring the water down your throat. This is what I was telling you. Everything has to be relearned when working in a creosonic frequency. You must be noticing by now the light feeling that is being projected into your atmosphere. So what is happening is you're getting a small taste of this higher frequency. Are you aware of this?
JB: Yes I am. Something is becoming very calm in my system at this time. I also am sensing some life force around me in my office at this time. Is this anything to do with our connection?

Stephen: What you are feeling is not any kind of entity or life form. It is an energetic field that you have surrounded yourself with to connect with the force that we are working with. You're not even aware that you have done this. This is something that will be explained to you at another time.
I have been experiencing a lot of new and exciting processes living in a whole new environment. This is what I will bring back with me if I decide to come back to the third dimensional realm. It's not something that you would want to experience. Once you come over here and experience this wonderful way of life, it doesn't make much sense to return. The only reason I would return is if it would benefit the rest of you that are coming over, and also to see my family and friends. I still have much to experience here, so we will see what happens.
JB: From what I understand, this whole process you are experiencing has been put into place by the Pleiatians, is this correct? Also, can you describe anything about their culture? I have heard many wonderful things about them.
Stephen: Yes, they are quite amazing beings. They have a lot to do with our culture and helping us raise our spiritual awareness. I'm not in complete communication with them at this time, even though I am experiencing their energy field, our communication line is still in its infancy stage. There is something I can do already at this point; I can pass on how to process energy that will lighten the load where you are now. Apparently a third dimensional experience in the physical body as a human in one of the most difficult life experiences available.
JB: Do you have any idea how we got connected?

Stephen: Yes, I'm sure it was the Pleiatians. You might keep the awareness that you have when you feel them now, so you are aware when they return. What I have learned more than anything over here the last six months is how the Pleiatians process thought, so we can interject with them. Apparently, you have been working with them recently in conjunction with multiple thought processing so that you can create some sort of large community in a new dimension.

I was first contacted in the spring of 1957 by the Pleiatians. This is when they first started grooming me throughout my life for the project I'm involved with now. I had to be mentally, physically and spiritually prepared to handle the process I am experiencing. If I decide to stay here and work from here, there will be a prop created of myself and the plane I was flying to look like there was some sort of mishap. It will look like I was killed in this mishap.
JB: I was just informed that you were tied in with the Rapidoriens near the Steen Mountains of Oregon. This isn't all that far from the Nevada desert where your airplane was reported missing. Are you familiar at all with what I am presenting to you?

Stephen: Yes! Do you know this area?

JB: Absolutely! My friends and I spent a number of nights camped out in this area last summer. Are you tied in with any of this at all?

Stephen: This is very interesting. The area you are describing to me is one of the main gathering points for different space entities to congregate. This is so amazing how they have lined us up to interact with each other to work on this huge project that is about to take place.
JB: Are you aware of this new city or community that is about to come together? Also, are you aware of where this is supposed to take place?

Stephen: I am a little confused on where this property presides. I do know what you are referring to when you say the new city.
JB: I am a little confused on how we are communicating. Are we communicating telepathically or is there a method that I am not familiar with?

Stephen: There must be different groups that are working with us and helping us communicate because I'm not completely literate in mental transformation and I don't believe you are either. This is very exciting! Whatever, it is working well. Somehow, you and all your friends have created an energy force that is pulling this all together. It is very powerful. Give me a little time and see if I can tie some loose ends together here and see what is going on. I do not know who the Rapidoriens are, but they must by somehow tied in with the Pleiatians because their energy fields match very close.
JB: Are you familiar with the red lines that appear in the dry lake in the Alvord desert of Oregon?

Stephen: Yes, very much so. I do not know how to read them but I know they are an accordance pattern for different visitors from all over the galaxy.
JB: My biggest curiosity is over whether you can explain where you are and what you're doing at this time? Do you have friends and people you are working with in this different frequency?

Stephen: There are many different entrances and exits into all realities. As soon as you understand this concept, retrain yourself to become aware of these phenomena's. This gives you much more freedom in traveling inter-dimensionally. That is what I'm basically doing, learning and understanding how these different portals connect to each other and what their purpose is. My biggest question is, where the hell did this all come from? It is totally amazing how perfectly coordinated everything is between hyperspace. What happens when you go into these so-called different frequencies isn't what you think. You are venturing into a new and strange world. Basically, you're going back to where you originated from. Even though it seems a little strange, you also have a sense of going home and being around the ones that you knew from some other life experience.
I know what you're thinking, would it be like going to the spirit world? Not really, because you still have a physical body. In the spirit world you have given that physical existence up. I am trying to think of an analogy that will give you some reference point on what the difference is. The only thing I can come up with is to think of yourself living in a giant mansion with many rooms. Your whole family is in this mansion, living in a basement with no window. You and your family start to go room to room. You begin in the basement where there are no windows and you keep going up higher and higher in the mansion where the windows are. This allows you to see much more. It's all the same structure. It just has a better view the higher you go up. You are currently in the basement, which I would call third dimension. It has no view and no understanding of much of anything else.
The second part of your question concerns whether I have friends and people I know in these different realms? Of course! Looking at it from your view it would be like going back to other lifetimes or other dimensional experiences. However, when you are in this frequency there is no such thing as going back or forward because time does not come into play. This is why explaining anything from here to somebody who is in the basement isn't understandable. Those in the basement base everything on time. Most of you at this point should know that time is such a small amount of a physical experience. Go ahead with your next question.
JB: Do you see the Earth now like you did when you were here?

Stephen: Let's go back to the mansion again. If you're out of the basement and into the second-story, where there are windows, you are given much more of an advantageous view than you had in the basement, but you still remember you life in the basement. So the question is, "Do I see the earth like I did when I was there?" The answer would be, " Yes, but I also see much more because I'm up where the windows are; where the light and sun is coming in and allowing me a much more beautiful picture. All my friends that I've known forever are here too. But remember, it's not like going back to a past anything because we're not dealing in time now. We are dealing in frequency. So it is not like going home to my old friends. It is like being with my same friends and never leaving. As I said, we are not dealing with time. This is not a simple process of allusion to explain unless you are actually here to experience this.
JB: You say you communicate with your wife, does she understand the concept you just explained?

Stephen: She does not need to know this information because it is not necessary where she is in her evolving patterns. Like many of you, I have this tremendous drive to understand. If you do not have this intention, it will not come to you. You've heard many times that energy follows energy. This is why people get so frustrated trying to figure out more than you are capable of. This could drive you crazy.
Another question you had about Oprah Winfrey opening up many people to this new concept. I really can't tell you much about that other than it's all part of a plan. It seems to be very powerful method for her to open up all these new avenues. You have another question. What do we see when we go into different dimensions or different frequencies, however, you want to say it. Remember, your main point of reference comes off your feelings. It's not what you see. So basically, you feel the transition. You don't see much of anything because your eyes are only good for subsequently taking care of your everyday needs in a physical body. I hope this answers your questions. It is not the easiest thing to answer many of your questions because of the little you see from living in the basement.
There is one thing that is a little amazing. It's all the different toys and gadgets that are laying around here, like the airplane I was flying, from people that have entered into the void, this dimensional interchange.
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JB: My question is did you try to write something on my computer while I was taking a nap and if you did, what were you trying to say? As you can see, it does not make any sense.

Stephen: Once I realized you had a voice actuated computer, I thought I would give it a try. Actually, I did feel it was a success even though it did not make much sense, at least I got it started. If you don't mind, we can try this again when you go back to bed. If you just leave the microphone on and see what happens. By the way, I'm not doing this by myself, we are receiving plenty of help, we have some mutual friends that are working quite hard to make this all happen.
JB: I am looking forward to see what happens. I have more questions, did you have to completely release the ego before you could go into this higher realm?

Stephen: I'm not sure how to answer this, the ego has been blamed for everything that goes wrong. When they worked with me and my imbalanced condition, the Pleiatians throughout the years had groomed me so I was able to take on this project. They basically kept my mental processing part of my mind from being out of control. As you know by now, thought is the key creative factor in everything that happens and by allowing everything to be in perfection and not try to change it, keeps you balanced to a point that allows the next realm to be available to cross into. That is what a number of you are doing now is preparing to go into a new realm, and the neat part of it is, it is a frequency that you are creating yourself by using collective consciousness. The ones that read this transmission and understand what I am presenting to you now will be the ones that will not only create this frequency, but will live in it while the rest of the worlds population continues doing its thing, which is basically following the thought patterns of the masses. So, if you want to look at the future, all you have to do is see what the average thought pattern is putting out. I'm sure you know what I mean.
JB: Very interesting answer, I think I will contemplate on that for awhile and see what I come up with. So basically, when you say they groomed you for this mission it's just showed you how to keep your thoughts from getting out of control so you're not destroying everything that you're creating. Is this pretty much what they did with you?
Stephen: Very good, it's all in perspective; you can see the glass full or you can see the glass more than full. I will leave that one for you to work out.

JB: I like that answer, it covered a lot of ground in a short time. When you're tempted to write on the computer, is there a message that you can share with us about what you were trying to say?
Stephen: Nothing that can't wait. I would like to try it more and see if I can make some sense with it. One thing I would like to share with you is how easy it is to stop the aging process. Once you learn to harness your thinking and keep those thoughts directed totally on creation, apparently you have been studying this, this is the key to allowing perfect health and longevity. It's also good to eat well but the big one is it's all good to think well, mental transporting with thoughts that are building and not tearing down is your goal. This basically is what they put me through since I was twelve years old. This is why it was so easy for me to live the life I did without fear. I understand in your mind, breaking records looks like an ego experience in a lot of cases it is, but in other cases it isn't. What I went through pushing to the max to learn not to have fear of anything, this is how I had to do it. As you know now, fear is the biggest deterrent of any commodity that you preside in.
JB: Is it true that coming in on this plane that we live on, that it is one of the most difficult experiences there is and once you accomplish this, there is a large growth pattern that is a result from this experience?
Stephen: I know what you are saying makes a lot of sense but remember, just because I'm in this new vibration doesn't mean I have answers to everything. So, those kinds of questions are something you will have to hold for someone that has a bigger window than I do.
JB: I have one more question. If we go out to the desert periodically, where the Rapidoriens preside, would this be a good place to start connecting with you and the Pleiatians?

Stephen: Absolutely! I can see you have been already led to this energetic site which is powerful, you should to a lot of growing there. Must go now, I will talk to you soon. James Stephen Fossett.



THE SECOND TRANSMISSION

April 20, 2008

JB I am putting out an attempt to re-establish communication with Steven Fossett, is this possible at this time? It is now 10:00 p.m and have absolutely no response from the voice activated computer and I was told if I would shut it off and return at approximately 12 o'clock midnight I could make this connection. I have never had this happen prior to this where the computer absolutely would not respond to my voice command once I established the date and time. So I don't know what to expect next.

Stephen Sorry about all the hoopla we are having a little time discrepancies. I did pick up your transmission earlier this evening but I was not able to return because I was a few hours off in the time zone but I was able to stop your voice actuation process and hold it in place until now. There's a lot of processes that don't match the two different frequencies and this is the one of the things I am learning how to work with at this time. One thing I am very interested in is how your friend is receiving feedback from different people about this whole process of communication, from a different frequency tell her if she would slow down a little bit I will be able to communicate with her and explain to her how contemplation interacts between frequencies. I think I can communicate with her at this point. She is a real powerhouse, I am glad you have her on your team, her energetic field gives us fuel for this transmission and I'm sure you know what I mean. You will get many fear-based reactions from some people about this transmission because of the whole structure of your system is driven by fear. Do not have any concern over this because anything fear-based will just self - destruct and the ones that are coming from number four Power Point are the only ones you have to be concerned about because they will not self-destruct they will add to the process you are about to enter into.

I went through what you're going through myself a number of years ago and its much easier for you because you have a tremendous backing , together expeditiously. There is a very wise one that is feeding me the information on what all you are going through, putting this new process together you have a very wonderful and powerful group that is coming directly from the fourth PowerPoint which is very necessary to make this process become a manifestation.

JB very good to hear from you, I was not sure if I could reconnect or not this is all new to me. You mentioned a wise one, is this somebody we all know?

Stephen I have no way at this time to explain who and what this is but as soon as I figure a way to explain this I will let you known. Yes I know a strange answer. Also I have a favor to ask I need some help with a design that will help transport low-frequency matter into the frequency that I preside at, this has to be done from your side because this is not a natural phenomena here. It's like anything you do whatever your frequency is where you live it has to be created in the frequency and then go through a molecular exchange into a higher frequency. I know this is a little confusing because it's all new to you but I think you get the jest of this communication.

JB I would be glad to do whatever I could to make this process work for you. Why do I have such a heavy weight on me this time? It is not really uncomfortable it is just a little hard to breathe but my clarity in receiving this transcript is very clear and is one of the best I've ever had as far as simplicity.

Stephen The reason you feel that way as you're not used to working in this frequency and in order to communicate with me you have to partially be in the same field that preside in. I know your next question is going to be how did I do that? And my answer is something you have done to the area you live in that has made a small opening which allows us to communicate through. But I do not know what you have been processing for this to take place. Question do you have an animal like a dog or cat? If you do you will see different changes in this creature because they react much quicker than humans and because they have no belief system in the way.

JB Yes my dog Luke has made some wild swings in his personality and his energy is very obvious so I understand what you mean. I have another question , the information you're sending through should I go ahead and just keep sending it out like I did with the information prior to this?

Stephen Yes you can, I think it's very interesting how people react to something that doesn't fit in their little box, but it's very pleasing to see the ones that are accepting it without believing or disbelieve it this gets them out of that little box where many have been for a very long time. I know the question you are about to ask and that is what am I doing in this new frequency and am I returning at any point in the future. This is not very easy to explain the second question am I going to return, if I can work from here I will not, and it looks like there is more of you that I can connect with that I can work from both sides and will be able to work on this project with your help. One thing I would like to say in most of you heard this before, what I convey to you is not necessary to believe, just process it and hold it in that mental compartment that you talk about in your mind until you get the rest of the story. The biggest obstacle there is in the way is people have a set pattern of beliefs that they try to live by and if they do that going into the unknown they don't go very far.

The pleadiens worked with me for years so I could transform into this vibrational consciousness that I went into without having any difficulties.

JB Are you able to see our future and also are you aware of the project in the desert we are working on?

Stephen No I cannot see the future because I still have a physical body that requires a time zone to live in. I really haven't gone to some magical place in some magical kingdom I've just been placed into a much more for no other word non - compartmental condition. If you could feel for one minute what it's like not to fight for everything just to fuel the ego you would know what I mean. But many of you are on the path now that will allow you to live this life while you're in your current lifetime. One of the biggest ventures that I really have enjoyed is watching my physical body replace its self back to youth-ism. When every day you'll notice yourself get stronger and mentally clear, this is a very exciting experience to go through because you have been programmed just the opposite. Please go back to bed, I am starting to lose you, I'll meet you back here in about two hours.


JB OK I am back and I am a much more clearer now . One thing I am really starting to realize is the importance of the combined energy I can feel the energy from a friend of mines intention to communicate with you, how much more clearer and easier it is to bring this information in just by having her intention and also mine makes it flow much smoother. So I can imagine the power that comes to us as we join forces and work with the same intention.

Stephen Yes this is a large break through for all of us, this is why in the future if anyone tries to interrupt your project with violence or control and you're connected in this same way it will be totally impossible to interrupt the flow that you have created. I don't want to use the word protect you from any violence because basically you are stopping the negative flow before it even starts. I hope this makes some kind of sense in other words you're not creating a situation to protect yourself from anything. I know there's a lot of new ways of looking at life because there is much more than you ever dreamed of and you'll see this more and more as you connect together with others. This connection also releases the separatism of thought which keeps you from arguing about different processes that you're trying to put into place to manifests whatever project you have going. Anytime there is any argument at all it is because each individual has a different picture and because of the ego they want that picture to become our reality, where if you're connected this doesn't take place because you see the same picture that you equally have created together. Can you see how much more of a creative force you have created?

JB Do you have anything to do with this place in the desert that we've been directed to?

Stephen Not exactly but I am working with some of the same groups that you are which are connecting with you from off planet so I do understand a lot of the concepts that you are learning . I would like to mention something that you probably haven't thought about and that is when you do receive resistance from others throughout your manifestation of whatever project you're working on and even from this information that you are receiving from me This resistance helps you with your project as long as you don't fight it just remember how the law of attraction works everything you resist strengthens its position as long as you do not make anyone wrong that is resisting you. It's all about not trying to control anything, the ones that are still trying to control will self-destruct. This comes back to integrity which is coming from the heart not from ego.
Eric Raven The Skeptic
Utter rubish. By the way this is the second time for you to post the same topic, there was no response the first time. That should tell you something. yes.gif
Bajillic
YES IT IS THE SECOND TIME I HAVE POSTED IT AND NO RESPONSE SO , I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE UNDER THIS SECTION. CAN YOU EXPAND ON WHY YOU THINK THIS IS UTTER RUBBISH?

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QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Apr 27 2008, 05:21 PM) *
Utter rubish. By the way this is the second time for you to post the same topic, there was no response the first time. That should tell you something. yes.gif

Eric Raven The Skeptic
original.gif Because it is nothing more than fantasy. Sorry. What kind of response did you expect? I just call them like I see them.
Wombat
Utter rubbish.
Bajillic
How do you define FANTASY ?
I expected a mix response as everybody is at a different stage of consciousness and that will always be the case. This text is for those who can resonate with it and it has been received by a number already who are open to this - it is for these people. Unfortunately to reach these people it has to be recieved by all and usually it is those who don't get it will respond like you have.
As Steve said,

Stephen yes you can, I think it's very interesting how people react to something that doesn't fit in their little box, but it's very pleasing to see the ones that are accepting it without believing or disbelieve it this gets them out of that little box where many have been for a very long time. I know the question you are about to ask and that is what am I doing in this new frequency and am I returning at any point in the future. This is not very easy to explain the second question am I going to return if I can work from here I will not, and it looks like there is more of you that I can connect with that I can work from both sides and will be able to work on this project with your help. One thing I would like to say in most of you heard this before . what I convey to you is not necessary to believe just process it and hold it in that mental compartment that you talk about in your mind until you get the rest of the story. the biggest obstacle there is in the way is people have a set pattern of beliefs that they try to live by and if they do that going into the unknown they don't go very far.


J




QUOTE (Bajillic @ Apr 27 2008, 05:34 PM) *
YES IT IS THE SECOND TIME I HAVE POSTED IT AND NO RESPONSE SO , I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE UNDER THIS SECTION. CAN YOU EXPAND ON WHY YOU THINK THIS IS UTTER RUBBISH?

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Wombat
QUOTE (Bajillic)
YES IT IS THE SECOND TIME I HAVE POSTED IT AND NO RESPONSE SO , I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE UNDER THIS SECTION. CAN YOU EXPAND ON WHY YOU THINK THIS IS UTTER RUBBISH?

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Imagine you gave a monkey a typewriter. If he produced two pages of random, meaningless letters, would you begin to analyze it, or take it seriously as a philosophical assertion?

I wouldn't. That's why I feel it's unnecessary to go into detail.
darkbreed
I have no problem believing that it is possible to communicate with spirits / people / other entities in other dimensions, frequencies or whatever you want to call it as I've done that myself.

However, your story, interesting as it is, if true it should be easy to verify as you say his wife and other friends are also in contact with him. So just have to get those people come forth and verify this and it'll have more credibility and would also be more interesting.

And if his voice from "the other side" can be recorded, as it should be possible considering he is using computer speakers / microphones to communicate with as I understand from the text, that would also make it more interesting if those were published and verified to be the voice of Steve Fosset himself by friends, family and other people who knew him, and be able to be compared to publicly available older records of his voice from before he disappeared.
BlackFrost
Everything is Energy ~ a frequency ~ and there maybe a few that
are the forerunners/experiencers to a new paradigm of interaction
with other dimensions of which a part of this situation may apply.

I agree with you Darkbreed and have no problem believing that it is possible
to communicate with spirit /entities from another dimensions/ frequencies.

String theory is radically changing our ideas about the nature of space,
opening up the possibility that extra dimensions, rips in the fabric of space,
and parallel universes actually exist.

I find it rude and insulting not to let someone speak on their experiences,
thats what the forum is for ~
ai_guardian
I agree, utter rubbish.

QUOTE (Bajillic @ Apr 28 2008, 06:34 AM) *
I expected a mix response as everybody is at a different stage of consciousness and that will always be the case. This text is for those who can resonate with it and it has been received by a number already who are open to this - it is for these people. Unfortunately to reach these people it has to be recieved by all and usually it is those who don't get it will respond like you have.
I think that "consciousness" (bolded above) should be GULLIBILITY yes.gif We are all in two states, either conscious or unconscious (aswell as having the subconscious doing 'house keeping' tasks). We all have different stages of gullibility. Children are most susceptible and some people never grow up. We also have different levels of intelligence. There are some people who prey on this and your 'channeler' (if it is not you) is one of them, imo. It is usually people who have grown up, are educated and intelligent who will not 'GET IT'.

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Cheers

PS: I don't think I have overstepped any boundaries set up in the forum rules here
ai_guardian
QUOTE (BlackFrost @ Apr 28 2008, 10:17 AM) *
Everything is Energy ~ a frequency ~ and there maybe a few that
are the forerunners/experiencers to a new paradigm of interaction
with other dimensions of which a part of this situation may apply.
Have you had any formal education in physics? I am not saying that you must but it would help you to understand what a frequency in relation to energy is. I have yet to see any valid "forerunners/experiencers to a new paradigm of interaction with other dimensions".

QUOTE (BlackFrost @ Apr 28 2008, 10:17 AM) *
I agree with you Darkbreed and have no problem believing that it is possible
to communicate with spirit /entities from another dimensions/ frequencies.
The brain is a very complex organism capable of much that we are just finding out about. Evidence is pointing to natural phenomenon/glitches that produce exactly the same outcomes as people claim about spirits/entities.

QUOTE (BlackFrost @ Apr 28 2008, 10:17 AM) *
String theory is radically changing our ideas about the nature of space,
opening up the possibility that extra dimensions, rips in the fabric of space,
and parallel universes actually exist.
Ideas do not equal reality. String Theory is "not even wrong".

Cheers
darkbreed
Hm I think BlackFrost made some valid points. Everything IS energy all the way down to subatomic level, and thus frequency as it is vibration. Communication with spirits may very well be possible, of course I personally would say it is possible without any doubt from personal experience, and science acknowledges the possibility of other dimensions as well.

-EA
Wombat
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Apr 28 2008, 07:58 AM) *
Hm I think BlackFrost made some valid points. Everything IS energy all the way down to subatomic level, and thus frequency as it is vibration. Communication with spirits may very well be possible, of course I personally would say it is possible without any doubt from personal experience, and science acknowledges the possibility of other dimensions as well.

The bold part is all non sequitur. You can't assume that since everything is energy, communication with spirits may be possible. They are completely unrelated. It's like saying "my shoes are black, therefore pink unicorns exist". There isn't even a reason to believe that spirits exist.

Yes, the M-theory states that there are 11 dimensions, but unfortunately you have no clue about what dimentions are, or what they imply.
BlackFrost
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Apr 28 2008, 12:58 AM) *
Hm I think BlackFrost made some valid points. Everything IS energy all the way down to subatomic level, and thus frequency as it is vibration. Communication with spirits may very well be possible, of course [i]I personally would say it is possible without any doubt from personal experience[/i], and science acknowledges the possibility of other dimensions as well.

-EA




'Darkbreed' ~ Cannot argue with personal experience ~ do you have some posted?
ArtemisArcheress
Real or not, it was a very interesting read!

Im very open to the nature of spirit communication, theories about other dimensions etc. i have no problem with these new ideas. But i am not someone who is going to jump on every single "unexplained" bandwagon that comes my way.

History has seen plenty of "radical" new ideas and theories that seem ridiculous to society at the time, and then end up integrated into the very foundation of modern society years later.

By being open to all things outside of our "box" i believe we can learn so much more about ourselves and our environment.

By believing in every single theory that appears credible to your belief system, is naive. But also by being closed minded to every single theory that is not able to fit into this belief system, is also naive. I think a balance between these is what allows for growth, for the individual and also for the collective community.

(By the way im not saying i believe this or anything! I have no opinion really...)

Bajillic
QUOTE (ai_guardian @ Apr 28 2008, 12:20 AM) *
I agree, utter rubbish.

I think that "consciousness" (bolded above) should be GULLIBILITY yes.gif We are all in two states, either conscious or unconscious (aswell as having the subconscious doing 'house keeping' tasks). We all have different stages of gullibility. Children are most susceptible and some people never grow up. We also have different levels of intelligence. There are some people who prey on this and your 'channeler' (if it is not you) is one of them, imo. It is usually people who have grown up, are educated and intelligent who will not 'GET IT'.

- Edit -

Cheers

PS: I don't think I have overstepped any boundaries set up in the forum rules here



I appreciate your input and concern regarding what I posted. I must stress again this information will not be accepted by everyone. Fortunately I am educated, intelligent minded and come from the heart and find this material to make sense. I have no intention to hurt anyone by sharing this, I apologize if it has. There has been a lot of postitive feed back from this information and it certainly can open your mind if you want it to. For me I feel it is time some of us start to think outside the box that we have created through our beliefs and fears. I don't fear such information, yes it is abnormal to some but what is normal???
Again I respect where you are at and your thoughts but believe me my friend is sane and has a wealth of knowledge and in no need to of a trip to the hospital.
Thanks for sharing, it is important that we see how this material makes people feel.
BlackFrost
QUOTE (Bajillic @ Apr 28 2008, 03:12 PM) *
I appreciate your input and concern regarding what I posted. I must stress again this information will not be accepted by everyone. Fortunately I am educated, intelligent minded and come from the heart and find this material to make sense. I have no intention to hurt anyone by sharing this, I apologize if it has. There has been a lot of postitive feed back from this information and it certainly can open your mind if you want it to. For me I feel it is time some of us start to think outside the box that we have created through our beliefs and fears. I don't fear such information, yes it is abnormal to some but what is normal???
Again I respect where you are at and your thoughts but believe me my friend is sane and has a wealth of knowledge and in no need to of a trip to the hospital.
Thanks for sharing, it is important that we see how this material makes people feel.



Bajillic ~ It is too bad that others cannot 'respect' your thoughts..
Just wanted you to know that I 'respect' and 'appreciate' your post.
After all, that is what the forum is about ~ to hear what others have to say and what kind of experiences
others are having.
Fancy that ~ getting your knickers in a knot over something you do not believe or care about ~ when it would be much
easier to gracefully back out of that topic and say nothing if you think its rubbish. Or even make a simply reply that
you disagree..... but there is NO excuse for being rude ~ and you certainly need not apologize!
Moonie2012
So...how exactly are they supposedly communicating? Through IMs? Huh?

I'm going to second the "utter rubbish" idea. None of it makes any sense at all, no facts are given, it reads like fiction. How can you possibly expect rational people to blindly buy into it?

Also, using fancy text colors and fonts FTL. People who type like that can rarely be taken seriously.
ai_guardian
QUOTE (Bajillic @ Apr 29 2008, 06:12 AM) *
I appreciate your input and concern regarding what I posted. I must stress again this information will not be accepted by everyone.
Yes, I did read the NUMEROUS references in the 'channelled' text to that fact and the insinuations that those that don't believe are somehow inferior. Quite frankly, this is exactly the same grappling hook that cults and in fact religions have used in the past and still do today. The notion of having some secret/priviledged information or enlightenment value and all you have to do is BELIEVE, except nowadays people are getting more cunning which stands to reason as less and less people believe these claims. If it doesn't fly, it just doesn't fly - and to be honest and the reason I called it mumbo-jumbo is because IT DOES NOT FLY - more on this further below.

QUOTE (Bajillic @ Apr 29 2008, 06:12 AM) *
Fortunately I am educated, intelligent minded and come from the heart and find this material to make sense.
You may be intelligent and educated but it didn't stop you from missing the biggest gaping hole in the whole story. Also, some of the biggest scams, worst cults etc. were imo run by intelligent and educated people (they know how to manipulate) it's their flock that usually, imo, lack the ability to discern reality from fiction and this is seldom through a fault of their own, it's how the 'truth' is conveyed (see first paragraph).

QUOTE (Bajillic @ Apr 29 2008, 06:12 AM) *
I have no intention to hurt anyone by sharing this, I apologize if it has.
It probably has not, yet, and yet is the operative word. I'm sure that Heavens Gate seemed completely benign at the beginning too, and look where it got it's flock. They believed in alien beings too, other dimensions etc., frustration grew as promises weren't met and benign beliefs turned to tragedy. You are not going to tell me that their bodies left behind were also PROPS as is claimed for Mr. Fossett if his body is ever found? Your friend's story is has the potential for a cult in the making because he/she is making sure that anything that is found to contradict the story is also invalidated by the story. Also, you may not be setting out to intentionally hurt anyone, but things can change drastically once you are looked up to for guidance, and human nature has shown us that rather than found to be horribly wrong and seen as manipulators, people will take a more grave option especially if one has invested too much time/effort.

QUOTE (Bajillic @ Apr 29 2008, 06:12 AM) *
There has been a lot of postitive feed back from this information and it certainly can open your mind if you want it to.
When I read the above, "this information" sounds so close to dis-information, and even dis-information will have positive feedback. Some works of fiction have positive feedback too. But positivie feedback is not an indication of truth unless you are doing a peer review of a scientific theory and even then it's not absolute.

QUOTE (Bajillic @ Apr 29 2008, 06:12 AM) *
For me I feel it is time some of us start to think outside the box that we have created through our beliefs and fears. I don't fear such information, yes it is abnormal to some but what is normal???
It's one thing to think outside the box and another to think outside of reality. I think we have a pretty good baseline established for what is normal. Although this baseline can vary as our cultures/knowledge evolve, it is pretty standard knowledge that hearing voices other than your own thoughts is not normal.

QUOTE (Bajillic @ Apr 29 2008, 06:12 AM) *
Again I respect where you are at and your thoughts but believe me my friend is sane and has a wealth of knowledge and in no need to of a trip to the hospital.
Thanks for sharing, it is important that we see how this material makes people feel.
L. Ron Hubbard probably had a wealth of knowledge also although I'd question his sanity. Your friend, what can I say, I tried to warn you. Personally, if I started hearing voices, knowing that there are a number of serious conditions that can cause such things, I'd suspect these conditions rather than aliens or presumed-dead people. Most people think that they are special/chosen because of these conditions and the conditions themselves help one to think so AND they are afraid they will lose these special abilities.

Now onto the gaping hole I mentioned earlier. I am only going to mention the most obvious as I've written enough as it is, there are many others.

FREQUENCY is necessarily by definition and meaning a function of time.
...and here's your title..."STEVE FOSSETT ALIVE IN A DIFFERENT FREQUENCY"
...and
QUOTE (Your Friend's Story)
However, when you are in this frequency there is no such thing as going back or forward because time does not come into play. This is why explaining anything from here to somebody who is in the basement isn't understandable. Those in the basement base everything on time. Most of you at this point should know that time is such a small amount of a physical experience.
Time does not come into play? And btw, everything we do is a function of time in this physical experience. Thought is a function of TIME.
Now some other excerpts to ponder considering the above...
QUOTE (Supposed Steve)
...because we're not dealing in time now. We are dealing in frequency...
wacko.gif
QUOTE (Supposed Steve)
...which at this time, I must be quite vague about...

QUOTE (Supposed Steve)
...into this new time period...

QUOTE (Supposed Steve)
...I will be in this condition for some time...

QUOTE (Supposed Steve)
...where you preside at this time...

QUOTE (Supposed Steve)
...Give me a little time...

...and...
QUOTE (Supposed Steve)
...You don't see much of anything ...

QUOTE (Supposed Steve)
...There is one thing that is a little amazing. It's all the different toys and gadgets that are laying around here, like the airplane I was flying, from people that have entered into the void, this dimensional interchange...

Remember, based on your 'Steve Fossett' it's a different dimensionality (not 3d) but he can see toys and gadgets lying around, hmmm.

It is just plain ridiculous imo. alien.gif I don't know if I should laugh or cry crying.gif

Cheers
ai_guardian
QUOTE (BlackFrost @ Apr 29 2008, 06:39 AM) *
Bajillic ~ It is too bad that others cannot 'respect' your thoughts..
Just wanted you to know that I 'respect' and 'appreciate' your post.
Respect has to be earned not dished out willy-nilly.

QUOTE (BlackFrost @ Apr 29 2008, 06:39 AM) *
After all, that is what the forum is about ~ to hear what others have to say and what kind of experiences
others are having.
Quite true but posting something that insinuates, actually it explicitly states, that those that don't believe are inferior (more or less) is imo not entirely benign. As far as I remember, there is something in the forum rules about that - mostly encountered in the 'Spiritualism vs Skepticism' section.

QUOTE (BlackFrost @ Apr 29 2008, 06:39 AM) *
Fancy that ~ getting your knickers in a knot over something you do not believe or care about ~ when it would be much
easier to gracefully back out of that topic and say nothing if you think its rubbish. Or even make a simply reply that
you disagree..... but there is NO excuse for being rude ~ and you certainly need not apologize!
You couldn't be any more wrong here. Sure I don't believe the OP but I CARE about humanity tongue.gif I believe survivors (those lucky ones) and the families of members of the Heavens Gate cult WOULD BEG TO DIFFER with you.

And btw, since this site is indexed frequently, anyone interested in the OP story and unsure what to make of it will very likely stumble on my exposition also, YAY. Let's be fair and give those curious, both sides of the story.

Cheers
Saru
I've removed some comments from this thread that were either offensive or inapropriate; lets keep this discussion civil please and free of personal attacks.

Thank you.
XITSALLGOODX
QUOTE (Bajillic @ Apr 28 2008, 09:12 PM) *
it is important that we see how this material makes people feel.



this article is for me, call me crazy if you will but i have been waiting for this to come up, iv always needed somthing to confirm what i need to know
i dont kno when its going to happen and im not stupid enough to say 2012 lol as i dont belive in anyting to do with it, it will all happen in is own time
but thankyou for this post. i have now heard what i need to hear, BTW i regulary dream of things like this and i cant decribe what the 5th dimennsion looks like - but i kno

so in an anwser to your quote

i feel amazing
BlackFrost
QUOTE (SaRuMaN @ Apr 29 2008, 04:35 AM) *
I've removed some comments from this thread that were either offensive or inapropriate; lets keep this discussion civil please and free of personal attacks.

Thank you.


Saruman ~ Thank you for stepping in.
I was looking forward to exploring this forum.
This Forum has the ability to pulling together so many people while ALL their experiences
of the paranormal and all these "Unexplained Mysteries"... that it would be nice to Just Talk About Them...
and to just get it out there.... and maybe figure these mysteries out.

I don't like dialoging with negative posts, I was simply defending who made the post....
Wombat
QUOTE (BlackFrost @ Apr 29 2008, 02:31 PM) *
Saruman ~ Thank you for stepping in.
I was looking forward to exploring this forum.
This Forum has the ability to pulling together so many people while ALL their experiences
of the paranormal and all these "Unexplained Mysteries"... that it would be nice to Just Talk About Them...
and to just get it out there.... and maybe figure these mysteries out.

I don't like dialoging with negative posts, I was simply defending who made the post....

On forums we discuss topics. Discussion involves a lot of criticism too, so don't be too surprised when you're not agreed with.
Bajillic
QUOTE (ai_guardian @ Apr 29 2008, 04:36 AM) *
Yes, I did read the NUMEROUS references in the 'channelled' text to that fact and the insinuations that those that don't believe are somehow inferior. Quite frankly, this is exactly the same grappling hook that cults and in fact religions have used in the past and still do today. The notion of having some secret/priviledged information or enlightenment value and all you have to do is BELIEVE, except nowadays people are getting more cunning which stands to reason as less and less people believe these claims. If it doesn't fly, it just doesn't fly - and to be honest and the reason I called it mumbo-jumbo is because IT DOES NOT FLY - more on this further below.

You may be intelligent and educated but it didn't stop you from missing the biggest gaping hole in the whole story. Also, some of the biggest scams, worst cults etc. were imo run by intelligent and educated people (they know how to manipulate) it's their flock that usually, imo, lack the ability to discern reality from fiction and this is seldom through a fault of their own, it's how the 'truth' is conveyed (see first paragraph).

It probably has not, yet, and yet is the operative word. I'm sure that Heavens Gate seemed completely benign at the beginning too, and look where it got it's flock. They believed in alien beings too, other dimensions etc., frustration grew as promises weren't met and benign beliefs turned to tragedy. You are not going to tell me that their bodies left behind were also PROPS as is claimed for Mr. Fossett if his body is ever found? Your friend's story is has the potential for a cult in the making because he/she is making sure that anything that is found to contradict the story is also invalidated by the story. Also, you may not be setting out to intentionally hurt anyone, but things can change drastically once you are looked up to for guidance, and human nature has shown us that rather than found to be horribly wrong and seen as manipulators, people will take a more grave option especially if one has invested too much time/effort.

When I read the above, "this information" sounds so close to dis-information, and even dis-information will have positive feedback. Some works of fiction have positive feedback too. But positivie feedback is not an indication of truth unless you are doing a peer review of a scientific theory and even then it's not absolute.

It's one thing to think outside the box and another to think outside of reality. I think we have a pretty good baseline established for what is normal. Although this baseline can vary as our cultures/knowledge evolve, it is pretty standard knowledge that hearing voices other than your own thoughts is not normal.

L. Ron Hubbard probably had a wealth of knowledge also although I'd question his sanity. Your friend, what can I say, I tried to warn you. Personally, if I started hearing voices, knowing that there are a number of serious conditions that can cause such things, I'd suspect these conditions rather than aliens or presumed-dead people. Most people think that they are special/chosen because of these conditions and the conditions themselves help one to think so AND they are afraid they will lose these special abilities.

Now onto the gaping hole I mentioned earlier. I am only going to mention the most obvious as I've written enough as it is, there are many others.

FREQUENCY is necessarily by definition and meaning a function of time.
...and here's your title..."STEVE FOSSETT ALIVE IN A DIFFERENT FREQUENCY"
...and
Time does not come into play? And btw, everything we do is a function of time in this physical experience. Thought is a function of TIME.
Now some other excerpts to ponder considering the above...
wacko.gif





...and...


Remember, based on your 'Steve Fossett' it's a different dimensionality (not 3d) but he can see toys and gadgets lying around, hmmm.

It is just plain ridiculous imo. alien.gif I don't know if I should laugh or cry crying.gif

Cheers




I have no need to defend this information from Steve Fossett, I am just sharing it and people are welcome to do what they want with it. Judging is such a third dimensional way of doing things and I SEE this is how you function. I am learning to get out of 3D - we all have so many life times of befiefs and rules that we live by and if we don't stay with in these we are judged - it is all about CONTROL . You are a prime example of this - that is OK too. I think out side the box ( thank goodness) and no longer need the media to tell me what is reality. It is amazing how we as a human race are controlled and mislead. I wish to not respond anymore as sharing was all I intended here.
best wishes...
Moonie2012
QUOTE (Bajillic @ Apr 29 2008, 12:56 PM) *
I have no need to defend this information from Steve Fossett, I am just sharing it and people are welcome to do what they want with it. Judging is such a third dimensional way of doing things and I SEE this is how you function. I am learning to get out of 3D - we all have so many life times of befiefs and rules that we live by and if we don't stay with in these we are judged - it is all about CONTROL . You are a prime example of this - that is OK too. I think out side the box ( thank goodness) and no longer need the media to tell me what is reality. It is amazing how we as a human race are controlled and mislead. I wish to not respond anymore as sharing was all I intended here.
best wishes...

A typical response from someone who just laid out a runway of BS and needs to get out, it has all the hallmarks. Paraphrasing here:

1. I have no need to prove anything or defend myself

2. You people are "dense"

3. I am "better" than you

4. Reality is lying to you

5. I'm not responding anymore (which conveniently gets me out of the mess I just made)



Actually, I'm starting to believe the cult accusation. I thought it was a bit harsh at first, but I can see it now.
darkninja
Perfect example of why I haven't logged in to the forum in about a year...
wolfknight
QUOTE (Papaver @ Apr 29 2008, 01:59 PM) *
What a terribly poor piece of fiction this thing is.

Complete nonsense.

I argee sound like bs to me. Bad timing poor taste if you ask me. Sounds like your trying to get rich off a dead man. Show me proof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ai_guardian
QUOTE (Bajillic @ Apr 30 2008, 03:56 AM) *
I have no need to defend this information from Steve Fossett, I am just sharing it and people are welcome to do what they want with it. Judging is such a third dimensional way of doing things and I SEE this is how you function. I am learning to get out of 3D - we all have so many life times of befiefs and rules that we live by and if we don't stay with in these we are judged - it is all about CONTROL . You are a prime example of this - that is OK too. I think out side the box ( thank goodness) and no longer need the media to tell me what is reality. It is amazing how we as a human race are controlled and mislead. I wish to not respond anymore as sharing was all I intended here.
best wishes...
I think Moonie2012 summed it up quite well.

I'd like to qualify myself though because for someone who has just come to the boards recently, Bajillic & BlackFrost, you seem to think you know me and my nature more than my own wife does. As I said to BlackFrost, you couldn't be further from the truth Bajillic. What I've done in this topic I do not do very often at all. You've just managed to post a topic, the content of which has the potential to CONTROL. That is exactly what I am against. My posts are littered with trying to show you how it was done in the past. You not spotting it does not surprise me in the least. You know, whenever something bad happens as a result of silly beliefs, people always say "we should've seen it coming", how many times does history have to repeat itself before we do see it coming. hmm.gif I analyse your OP and my intuition tells me "it's coming", I am sparing myself the guilt of not having spoken out when I should've.

"It is amazing how we as a human race are controlled and mislead", your words. If your friends story has no truth in it, which I have no doubt is the case, then YOU are doing exactly that. I have actually shown holes as well as the one below, so yes, that is what you are doing - misleading people imo. Anyone with basic physics knowledge could see the flaws in the story. I wouldn't be surprised if you denounce science aswell. As I already said, thinking outside the box (and I do that more than you think - Einstein style tongue.gif ) is one thing but it has to have grounding in reality (not necessarily media but science at least).

Well, since you say "judging is such a third dimensional way of doing things" you have just INVALIDATED your friend's story. Please re-read your friend's story, 'Mr. Fossett' is doing a whole lot of judging from his non 3-dimensional 'existence'. yes.gif rolleyes.gif Well done. Do not see it? Want me to post the exact sections? Just say so.

Good luck with getting out of 3D. original.gif

QUOTE (Moonie2012)
Actually, I'm starting to believe the cult accusation. I thought it was a bit harsh at first, but I can see it now.
It is not a very big jump from beliefs like the OP to cult status. I admit, it probably would have come across as harsh but I couldn't help but see the parallels between this and Heavens Gate (HG). It's just repackaged differently (poorly mind you), Law Of Attraction (HG would've done that too if the notion was around), PowerPoint (whatever that may be) and other nonsensical jargon thrown in.

QUOTE (wolfknight)
I argee sound like bs to me. Bad timing poor taste if you ask me. Sounds like your trying to get rich off a dead man. Show me proof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly! There is no proof, never will be. Even if they find Mr. Fossett's body, they've made sure that it cannot be taken as proof of their story being wrong wacko.gif

Personally, I think it is taking advantage of "if you want to make a million, start a religion" - paraphrasing Hubbard (scientology).

Anyway, I think I've said enough.

Cheers

Guardian

EDITED TO ADD: Another thing that may have slipped your radar. If Mr. Fossett's family gets wind of your efforts, intuition tells me there's a potential for a lawsuit. So, good luck with that. grin2.gif
Saru
QUOTE (Bajillic)
I wish to not respond anymore as sharing was all I intended here.

In that case there is no reason at all to leave this thread open.

Closed.
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