is it possible that vampires exist? to the peasants of old it certainly seemed real enough. a mutilated sheep or pig was blamed on demons of the night. however how has the thought changed with time? in a advanced civilization with advanced science it has been dismissed but should it? there is no visible proof of ever finding a vampire however there are witnesses and carving. nowadays scientist fall on the novel of dracula by bram stroker however was that written in the early 1900's? and legends of vampires have been present since the oldest civilizatins and tribes. from countries all over the world we find carvings and text's about a humanoid demon who can shapeshift and seduce the mind. scientist blame the seducing part on the individual who has yet to explore the deeper sexual side of his/her self. but with a flaw they failed to recognize the people they also have to refer too. people of ancient worlds. i believe that these people did not have casual sex but did only to produce off spring other wise they have no other care for it. also they blame it on the imagination but how can it be that so many tribes in other countries could pinpoint the greatest attributes of a vampire? you simply cannot chalk this up to a coincidence. what if they managed to mingle with the role of modern society? i have more information but if i was to continue i would spend a entire week in here and still not be finished

i think the term vampire just means people that dress in black, drink blood and hate garlic and holy water and has pale skin

i know someone that is like that and shes only 12, first time i saw her i got scared lol

Very nice post! I think it is possible that vampires exist. Kinda like dragons every culture has their own dragon. Oh and welcome to UM

I think they could exist.
There is always a grain of truth in every story right? Well, maybe they arent all people say with the garlic, silver, holy items.. blah blah blah.. But i believe there are those out there who are different then we as a human race.

i tell you what i told billy....HELL NO!!

thats not what billy told me...

Not in the sense that Bram Stoker popularized them. There do exist people with an illness that causes them to crave blood and perhaps some have even acted upon that by killing people, but they are not "undead", do not change into bats, are non repulsed by garlic & crosses. They can die like the rest of us.

I fully agree with Earthchick, the concept of some guy sleeping in a coffin and rising at Night to feed from teh blood of humans is a bit too much for me to grasp.

Yeah I believe vampirism is mostly a state of mind not the typical movie stuff. I have a friend who says he is a "vampire" and I know he has drank blood (from willing women, and not alot or anything) and he was into the season changes and such. I don't know if he still believes it all or what. Again I believe it's all just a state of mind not a virus or anything.

Hate to break it to you, but the idea that sex is fun in and of itself has been around a lot longer than the idea of sex just for offspring (which is largely a judeo-christian taboo). It is a commonly repeated aspect of the human psyche, world-wide.



What greatest attributes? Blood-sucking? What better property to attribute to a monster than the ability to drink blood and eat flesh? That's about as primal as it gets, and it isn't just vampires that do it.

Ultimately, vampires are nothing more than monster cliche often repeated through the ages, with the modern, society-mingling version having been created only a view decades ago. Before that, they looked progressively less and less human.

i will not argue with you guys on what is and what is not for i am not one to claim an answer to stuff i know no answer to. however, the greatest attributes of a vampire are not that they drink blood but thier appearance, superiority, powers,. though i myself don't believe that they are in and out of its self unhuman. i believe that there may exist a form of creature ( humanoid in appearance if you will ) that does feast upon the blood of humans. i did not say which i believed. i donnot believe that they are resemblant to humans in any way. i believe that maybe a vampire is the early interpatation of a chupacabra or some form of creature that as the ages past down the story stretched till with the help of Bram Stroker it completely changed. but guessing is about all we are going to be able to do. and the reason for this is that so many legends and myths surround the ' vampire ' that it is impossible to pinpoint how such stories could be started. and in accordance to the people i was referring to ancient people such as the worlds indians and other ancient peoples not to the more advanced humans.

There could be some thing that drinks human blood you never know

I know a creature that comes in the night(or day). Feasts on human blood; spreads sickness and slow death by disease wherever it goes, and rightly provokes feelings of revulsion, fear and annoyance.
It's also present almost everywhere..
Give up?
It's a mosquito...

If you want some real inspiration for vampire tales; start there..

Yes, they exsist. But the folklore vampire, which is based in movies and books, does not.

IMO Vampires did (or do?) exist, but not in the sense taht they are monsters, but just normal people who murder, and drink their victims blood (I mean, we have cannibals in the world, right?). And I wouldnt be surprised at all if someone routinely killed, and drained their victims blood to bathe in, because they thought it would help keep them looking young. Im almost positive something like this happened in Rumania to a prince (Prince Vladimir something). When I was younger I had a book about him, but I chucked it in the trast because it hae me the creeps

Just tried googling it, but I couldnt find anything worth posting

I was attacked by a vampire once but luckily I had just ate some garlic and when it smelled my breath it backed away. Then I grabbed my cross necklace and pressed it against its forehead and it howled while its flesh burnt. I grabbed a broken wooden pole and stabbed it through the heart and it melted away... Yeah vampires exist...

i don't know what u mean by IMO vampires but i searched google for real vampires and i got this:

http://www.sanguinarius.org/


.Darkninja you're just making fun of this,real vampires dont fear garlic and won't melt away.

OF COURSE DARKNINJA
Why didn't i think of that? A small peice of SMOOTH metal, probably cold, that burns vampies heads off! You should really be a slayer!

On a serious note, I believe in vampires, and i'll outline my theorys later with sufficant quotes and evidence. But even if you don't believfe, thats not a good reason to make fun of the believeers

I don't believe in santa
I don't believe in the tooth fairy
I don't believe in vampires
But i'd like to
But I will never ever believe in buffy no matter what anyone says

lol. i don't believe in slayers.
Ihope sarah michelle gellar is real though

The legend of vampires comes from the black plauge. People when riddled with this disease would show all signs of being dead and would be buried, however they were actually still alive, and would crawl out of their graves causing people to think they were undead. During the time, millions died from the black plauge and bodies were piled in cemeteries. The scent would be so overwhelming that people would wear garlic around their necks because it was the only scent that could mask the awful smell. This is why it was believed garlic warded off vampires. This is where vampires comes from. As far as people drinking blood, so what? That doesn't require skill or supernatural qualities. I could do that. Vampires: Part history, Part fairy-tale.

well if anyone find one! just drive a wooden stake in it heart and cut the head off!

...no, sorry but no. the vampire has been around in legend and tale for thousands of years before the black death.Vampire stories have been told for centuries, perhaps for as long as people have told one another stories. Where the first vampires appeared no one knows, no one knows how long they have been apart of our collective unconscious/subconscious. The ancient Hebrews believed that lillith, Adam's wife before Eve, gave birth to demons who devoured thier victims blood. In isaiah 34, Lilith is referred to as a "night monster." The arabs' ghoulsfed on the bodies of the dead. The greeks saw vampires as fiendish monsters covered in blood and blisters, who altered their shape at will and created the illusoin of gold and silver to entice the unwary. Macedonian legends describe hideous flesh-eating lamia who lived in caves and drank blood. In China the chiang-shih preyed both on the living and the recently buried. They were living corpses with talon-like nails and menacing red eyes, were frequently covered with whhite or greenish-white hair, and could fly if they chose.
In the Himalayan kingdoms of Nepal and Tibet, several gods carved on the temple walls display vampire fangs. stories are told of thier drinking the blood of sleeping humans, or feasting on the flesh and bones of the dead A seventeenth-century monk wrote an essay on Greek vampires, the vrykolakas, that was published in Cologne in 1645. He described the Greek vampire the corpse of a man who had done evil in his life to the point he was excommunicated from the church. The body of the vampire does not decompose, he explained; it becomes swollen and distended with blood, the skin leathery and stretched. In contrast, all Malay vampires are female. They are extraordinarily beautiful, distinguished by the green robes they wear, their long,black hair and tapering nails, and their strength, which is equalled to that of twenty men, these vampires are called langsuyar(in malay) like to perch in trees and leap onto the unwary, usually children, with swiftness they cannot be escaped.
there are many contries pre/post the plague that report vampirism in some way or form, and some reports come from places that were no where near the plague ridden europe, and a vampire is not defined as an individual that drinks blood, a vampire is an individual who feeds on the energy via blood, or pure energy from living things,humans/animals/plants. you were right, it takes no skill to drink blood nor does it take supernatural powers, now to take the energy(known as pranic energy or prana) does take some more-than normal atributes, so before you try to use one even in history to disprove the possible existance of a creature, or anything you might want to atleast do a little work to back up your statement, or gain knowlege of what you speak of as i have. i have spent years reading texts/books/scrolls on this subject, and it is a little annoying when this happens. try to have a little respect for the subject and the people who study it by not acting on your own limited knowlege.

Vampires? Zombies? Phooey, IMO.

.. However, people who drink blood for ritual worships probably do exist.

As i read once, fairytales are made to get kids used to the real world, vampires are just that.. fiction, just like Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy as Marduk pointed out.

Although Santa was probably based on a real person, but sexed up for story-telling.

There is a theory on Santa though..

Stages of Santa..

1. You believe in Santa.
2. You don't believe in Santa.
2. You ARE Santa.
3. You LOOK like Santa.

You know what? I WANT vampires to exist.

But unfortunately...its a physical impossibility.


Though, idiot goth vampire wannabes who consume blood do exist, unfortunately.

no way. in ye olde times belief in vampires was strong, but that was because of the vast wilderness they lived in, where there was plenty of space for such creatures to hide in, nowdays there is none, many try to compensate for this by putting vampires into urban settings a la the blade movies and buffy the vampire slayer but in reality, if this was so, surely surely there would have been enough sightings and reports to amke it common belief

Vampires do not exist, there only wanna bees.

The origins

Today we can travel (nearly) anywhere in the world and we'll see kids who dress up like pirates, mummies, darth vaders and vampires. The latter will paint his face white and some blood dropping from his lips, and he'll put on fake plastic canine tooth. He chose the Transilvanian vampire's image, of European patent. In the 16th and 17th centuries, when humanist and cientific thought were on the rise witches had finally some peace, but in the 18th century EUrope felt invaded with vampires.

In 1700 the French botanic Joseph Tournefort was in Mykonos, th greek island. A man was murdered, and some days after being buried he was running around, drinking wine jars without permission and threw stones to the roofs.Someone noticed he was a "vrykolakas", a vampire, and he was fought with masses (I mean church masses), exorcisms, processions and prayings to God; they stuck garlick in his mouth, he had his hearth ripped off, stabbed with swords. But he kept stealing and feasting on everybody's food and wine, entering the deserted houses, and beating up whoever he saw, in accordance with the fact that he had been a violent man. It wasn't over until they burnt the man.

In the book he wrote, laughing at vampires, Tournefort made vampires famous. In Silesia a dead woman attacked the living in the form of a dog or a man. The newspapers, still developing but not unaware of how "strong emotions" made numbers rise, warned of more and more cases of vampirism: in Poland, Russia, Hungary, Moravy, Valaquia, Dalmacia, Prussia, Bohemia, Lorena...

In 1728, the inhabitants of Kisilova, Serbia, got afraid of some sudden deaths and forced the ombudsman to execute the corpse of one Peter Plogojowicz, as a vampire. Although he was forced to, or otherwise the people would have deserted the town, it was the first time a high authority recognised the existance of vampires.
In 1726 Arnold Paole, in Medvegia, Serbia, was killed with a stake and burnt, accused of being a vampire. But he had sucked the blood not only of people, but of animals too, and people had eaten those animals afterwards. In 1731 the vampirehunting overflowed local authorities, and the action of statal Austrian authorities was demanded. In 1932, in the cemetery of Medvegia, a court "tried" 16 corpses, and 11 of them were declared vampires; they were beheaded and burnt.

The rationalist filosophers had laughed at the first alarms of vampires, but now vampires were "something real", and they didn't know what to do with them. Calmet recopilated all the documented cases in his book, for filosophers to examine them and discover the truth. While Voltaire started a campaign against Calmet, Rousseau reflected: maybe vampires don't exisit, but what exists is the fear that makes people believe they are real: "The vampire, it's the others".

In 1955 the austrian emperess ordered the court's doctor, Gerard van Swieten, to investigate it. Swieten denied any medical base in the belief of vampires: a corpse was a vampired because it had inflated in the coffin; another one because it hadn't, another one because it had fresh blood in the body, another one because it had fresh blood outside his body... And Swieten got angry because such proofs gave place to antivampiric customs which offended the "vampire" and it's family, such as beheading the corpse, ripping its heart off or making it explode with a stake, burning it and dispersing the ashes, amputating both hands and feet, leaving the suspect corpse to be eaten by animals...
Swieten's report was enough to begin regulating the vampirehunting. In 1756 the pope, Benedictus 14th, blamed the priests for promoting the belief on vampires to charge people for masses and exorcisms.

In the late 18th century it was in fashion to believe things, under the permission of "cool" sciences. Fisiognomony allowed us to predict if this one or the other were criminals just by looking at the shbape of their nose and ears; Mesmer and his "animal magnetism", Brissot's theory of the human being's bestialization, proved by the birth of a vealbaby and a wolfbaby. In this environment, in 1784 was found in Chile a vampire who was a cross between lion, bird and snake, with a human face; and he wore an elegant hat.
Displacing the vampire as the moving dead, appeared the vampired as Medusa's and Sphynx's weird cousin.

The vampires that got to us

But in 1797 Goethe published his tale "the bride of Corynth" (or whatever, I've made a quick translation), giing an explanation to vampires. She is, as traditional vampires, an activated corpse: she's dead, the soul or spirit has left the body. But, what can cause pure physical matter to be activated, but a purely physical and corporal force? Moved by this force, the vampire looks for a victim whose blood to suck, or to strangle him, or to have sex with him -the vampire is never satisfied on his own, he needs another body.
And, which urgency moves us to the physical contact? Sexual desire, dissociated from love, is the force that moves the bride.

But can sexual desire actually live in a corpse and make it move? The dead girl has sex wit ha boy, but it's the boy who invites her in her room, it's him who begs her to lay with him, he confesses that he desires er even if she comes from the grave. It's ok with him, to f*** a dead girl, although he ignores that she's dead; he has invoked the corpse, and it has come. The vampire obbeys sexual desire, but not its own -its victim's.

But that doesn't explain how has the corpse ended in the boy's bed. After all, maybe there are walkind deads, but there needn't be for the boy to find one; maybe the girl isn't dead, but alive; maybe there's no girl at all. Vampires are ghosts, but ghosts are perceived as incorporial beings -vampires are carnal ghosts.

Literature will respect the code stablished by Goethe and Coleridge with his "Christabel". The person who has the sexual desire doesn't recognize its presence in the inside, they throw the desire out and they meet it out there because he's the victim of the carnal ghost, which from out there consumes the desire that is not recognized in the inside.

But what is that out there? Rousseau said "The vampire, it's the others". And the vampire's desire isn't your own, he does things you'd never do: he sucks blood, rapes, strangles. You don't recognize it's your own desire because it's so unnatural the way the vampire satisfies what you didn't satisfy naturally.

In "the vampire", by John William Polidori, Audrey desires this girl, and that one there... But he thinks and thinks, and his penis doesn't penetrate he vagina; it's tha vampire's fangs what penetrate the unnatural vaginas they open in the girl's neck and breasts. Instead of receiving semen, vital liquid, the girl is sucked blood, her vital liquid. With his inactivity, Audrey can't prevent the vampire from commiting the simetrically inverse acts that he doesn't execute with the girl. The vampire's victim is the victim of a sexual desire which is kept secret, hidden from rational conscience.

The breaking of nature which creates a vampire isn't an unnatural desire, but the unacomplishment of a natural desire. The vampire infiltrates in the place the lover doesn't fill. In Dracula, Lucy wants a couple and doesn't have one; she suffers the attack of the most terrible vampire. The vampire isn't a presence, it's an absence; it isn't the sexual partner, it's the no-[sexual partner], it's a void: the vampiric relation benefits only the ghostly part, the dead part, while the living part gives his energy to the void.

If you desire a corpse and don't go for one, it's the corpse that comes for you. Desiring a corpse doesn't mean that you want someone to die to have sex with it afterwards, it's desiring a person as a corpse, when this person is alive, whith no need for it to die. It's reducing the sexual relation to the sexual use of a person as a carnal body. Such a thing, a body only as a physical passive being, can only be found in a corpse.
This doesn't mean that this person actually wants to f*** a corpse, he may not even know that he wants one. Maybe this person asks for permission before having sex, but what he's really asking is for permission to use the partner as a carnal body -as a corpse. But even if it's disguised like this, there remains the with for a corpse.

So, any kind of sexual desire, from the most normal to the weirdest one, leaves room to the entering of a vampire -which is just what ou want, but don't accept you want.

Count Dracula existed. He was a man who persecuted his people and reigned cruelly over his people. I think this place may have also been the area in which pogo was reffering to when talking about the black plague. It is this man and the place he lived which dictates our modern views of vampires.

Chupacabra's anyone? They are also known to have sucked the blood off animals like goats and such for ages ( If they exist ). Mabe they are the real "vampires" we should be thinking about.

Hollywood vampires don't exsist. The ones who fly, turn into bats, can't go into sunlight, etcetra.

But vampires do exsist. Look it up, it's rather interesting.

There are I believe people who are obessed with the idea so much they truly believe in them and copy the stereotypes often heard and read about vampires. So much they start to act the part. Its like role playing and people who dress the part,live the part to the extreme.

What of those who were what are now, before viewing a movie or reading a single book on the topic of vampires?

Yeah, I think vampires exist, not those movie-vampires, but in a somekind of other form - yes. You can't tell, who is a vampire and who is not, because I think that modern vampires are living quite normal life, some vampires can even move along normal people in daylight, on the streets. But of course, they are wearing sunglasses and using tons of suncream.

I find UFO's a zillion times more harder to believe than vampires.

Vampires can't exist. Blood does not contain enough nutriants to feed a human, humans are not evolved enough to drink blood.

i agree. vampires can not exist. the brain would deteriorate, and since the brain carries out most of the bodies functions it would be impossible for them to move, speak, eat, ect.

Actually, Vampires are real. There are people who drink blood of other people but they don't do it forcefully. Pretty crazy . And gross, Although I do like the taste of my own blood . But not other people's.

i was talking about original vampires. not wanna be's.

dont know about any prince but look at this

http://whataslacker.com/backdoor/elizabeth_bathory/

yeah i agree. its hard to beleieve that actual hollywood ones exist. but ive heard alot about people who drink blood, and dress like that, thinking they are actually vampires.

like I said, there are no real vampires. Just crazy psychopaths that like to run around pretending they are vampires

I don't think they are crazy psychopaths...I think it's just a way they want to pretend.

I heard that the longevity of vampires is caused by the same hormone, that is producing in little children, when they're babies. That same hormone causes also Progeria, when body doesn't produce it enough in childhood. But when it comes to vampires, that hormone's production doesn't stop in childhood, it continues with accelerated speed.

I don't know what you think, of course you think I am some sort of crazy basketcase, but makes sense to me.

This has been discussed to death...

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...?showtopic=3189

^^^
lol you made a pun

Indeed I did, thank you for noticing, as I almost wrote "discussed to undeath" but thought that a bit too obvious.

Hmmm how do you kill a vampire thread? Should I put garlic in my disc drive?

You relentlessly prove that vamp kids wrong over and over, it takes a while, but it's been done

there are people which call themselves vampires cause they drink blood.........i just call the cannibals

The Undead Thread.

It just goes on and on and on.....