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Towknee
Let me start out by saying that by UFO I DO NOT MEAN ALIENS! And also that I am completely new to all this UFO stuff.. I never was too interested in UFOs, I was always interested in spirits and the paranormal.


5 days ago I saw my first set of UFOs at a friends house. (See my story a few threads under) Every single day since (except the day it was storming all day) I have been seeing them. Most of them are in the shape of stars but they sometimes blink red and blue lights or fade away and come back, dart back and fourth. There are also bigger ones... and ones that spawn off one another. The stars are ALWAYS in triangles.

The second day after discovering the UFOs I started this strange sensation in my brain when I completely focus on them, almost as if they knew I was looking.

Now for the really crazy part (i know im going to regret saying this once the skeptics attack). I came home last night and was looking at the sky above my house thinking about the UFOs I have been seeing (I cant get it off my mind 24/7). Keep in mind the sky above my house was COMPLETELY CLEAR AND CLOUDY. Next thing I knew I saw one of the strange off-colored "stars" zig zagging where I was looking.. I followed it for a little while looking at it thinking I must just be wanting to see it because I was thinking about UFOs. After staring at the zig zagging star I finally had to look down because my neck hurt... When I put my head back up it there was approximately 10-15 more stars ALL IN TRIANGLES. The more I began to focus on them the more they would appear.

Crazy part part 2. I don't know if I am mentally able to move them with my mind, or if they follow the energy that I project into the sky or something weird like that, but I seem to be able to move the smaller stars with my mind.. I focus on a part of the sky and the star will eventually end up darting over there.

NOBODY I know believed me until today. My friends and I hang out at the outdoor skate park a lot and it eventually it got dark. IT WAS A CLEAR SKY maybe one or two stars. I focused on a RANDOM part of the sky and put ALL my energy into it... A "star" appeared! It got bolder, and then as always began to move and dart around. I told my friends and they were kinda like "holy sh**... but wait.. its probably a satellite or because of the clouds" so then I told them to wait and a bunch more will be coming. Sure enough within 5 minutes the whole sky around us was filled with these stars all different sizes and shades of colors and almost ALL IN TRIANGLES.

I am not posting this to amaze you, or convince you, because honestly I don't care. I just want someone to please help me... I am not scared, nor do I mind the presence of these UFOs, but I am hoping for someone to maybe be able to provide me with some more insight on this. I have read up on it and it seems like some people have experienced similar things, but I can't find too much information.

I hope someone wise reads this and takes it seriously and can provide me with some more knowledge. Thanks guys! original.gif
snuffypuffer
Ah, umm, so you can make UFOs appear? Tell you what, next time you go out, take a video camera with you. Then concentrate really hard. Then film your UFO friends. Be sure to include triangles. yes.gif
Towknee
QUOTE (snuffypuffer @ Apr 29 2008, 06:36 AM) *
Ah, umm, so you can make UFOs appear? Tell you what, next time you go out, take a video camera with you. Then concentrate really hard. Then film your UFO friends. Be sure to include triangles. yes.gif



Tell ya what, you don't seem like the kind of person who would be convinced by me posting a video with lights moving and appearing in the sky, it's the whole ignorance thing. Besides, if you would have read my post, I am not trying to prove anything or convince anyone, I am trying to find someone who might know more about this.
incarnatehellraiser
Sounds to me like when you do a handstand and then stand up really quickly all the blood rushes back up to your head you see all these star things....if you guys know what I mean? But seems like you have got it all the time for some reason, now dont get me wrong, im nto a skeptic, check out some of the threads ive started, but this is just what it sounds like..
Robbo
This is a discussion forum, not a statement forum - you can't post without expecting some sort of a reply.

Maybe your thinking too hard about UFOs at the moment and see what you want to see, maybe even subconsciously (spelling?)

After spending a night reading about alien abduction I went to bed as normal...then I started to experience most of the things I'd read about...like a feeling of being weightless and drifting through the air....when it was infact just me dropping off to sleep. I even had an abduction dream too.

QUOTE
they sometimes blink red and blue lights


There are quite a few stars that do this...I'm not sure why but its either something to do with the light reflecting/refracting in the atmosphere or whether the star is actually moving away or towards Earth....think it may be called red shift.

Anyway - get some videos of these things!
livewire78602
One suggestion, *SNIP*
bee
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 29 2008, 05:32 AM) *
I hope someone wise reads this and takes it seriously and can provide me with some more knowledge. Thanks guys! original.gif



Thanks for sharing......when I read your post, I remembered an interview I have recently
watched......it may be of interest to you.....

It's entitled Calling Down the Craft - Adventures with the Mind

A video interview with Bill Hamilton Laughlin, Nevada, March 2006.

Here it is >>>>>BILL HAMILTON INTERVIEW

By the way......I think you should embrace your experiences.....feel good about them......keep your
thoughts positive.........in a word.........REJOICE! thumbsup.gif


Rosewin
They will talk to you and tell you how you can help in the future when the world changes and they appear to everyone. IMHO they are demons finding those who they can fool. Resist them and they will flee take an interest and eventually they will make further contact.
jonny b
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 28 2008, 10:49 PM) *
Tell ya what, you don't seem like the kind of person who would be convinced by me posting a video with lights moving and appearing in the sky, it's the whole ignorance thing. Besides, if you would have read my post, I am not trying to prove anything or convince anyone, I am trying to find someone who might know more about this.


Well If you want info on this stuff, people might be more willing to help you or share with you if you have proof.Besides if they do show up as often as you say they do, then what would it hurt to film the phenomenon?Alot of people have really seen ufo's, I myself have seen a really big ufo, in daylight hours, but alot of people are not as lucky as to have the oppertunity to have a video camera to film it as it happens.If it happens night after night, then it would seem you have a great oppertunity to gather evidence and share it.What is the harm of trying to gather video footage?

Left Field
Just to add to my comment in your other thread - if you aren't trying to convince anyone, why would you care what those who doubt you might say about any video footage you would take?
jonny b
QUOTE (Left Field @ Apr 29 2008, 03:11 AM) *
Just to add to my comment in your other thread - if you aren't trying to convince anyone, why would you care what those who doubt you might say about any video footage you would take?


maybe these two threads should be merged................... original.gif
ArtemisArcheress
It would be really good if you could take a video of them, especially as it seems like you will definitely have the chance to!

Ive seen a ufo, its suprising how many people have nowadays, unfortunately the video and photos didnt come out good! People are more likely to help you if you show them what your seeing, if you refuse they are going to become even more skeptical about your claims.
Bill Hill

There's only...so long I can hold the skeptics back... they're....they're breaking through....

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Lilly
While it's certainly ok to be skeptical about the anecdotal claims of others, it's not alright to personally comment in a negative fashion about them. If you think someone's claims are unfounded, just state your opinion politely (or don't comment at all).
Moonie2012
Why is it so hard to produce proof of something that happens so easily and readily? LOL at the "ignorance" comment. Yeah, it's really ignorant to want proof of such a wild claim, especially when it's so easy to get - you should be happy to show it to us.

"I don't care what you think, I don't have to prove anything" is the usually the first thing somebody says when they have some BS to fling about.

Video or it didn't happen.
louie
If you feel you can summon them, try video it for us. its the best way to make your point more valid. and i for one would be very intrested in seeing what you come up with.
Knight of the Twilight
Strange....honestly, I have a hard time believing this, but I won't just dismiss this as a lie on that basis....If your friends saw it, then that could rule out the possibility of mental issues....I honestly don't know what to say to this, except keep trying it and see how long this happens.
Sweetpumper
You're not calling them, but they know you're there.

It's an eerie feeling to know you're being watched back isn't it?
Graylady
another Yahweh prophet type of guy...should be shot straight on the target so no one else will try to draw attention with their bogus bull.. mad.gif
Mr.Dot
For people that might know more about this, why not show them some pictures or videos? It would be useful to provide them with as much information as possible accessible and not hold it back because of some weird reason.
Teufelhund
I'm waiting for that video


But I guess we're not going to see a video of those ufo's, right? wink2.gif
Mr.Dot
I actually might know something about this, I just need... A video.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 29 2008, 12:49 AM) *
Tell ya what, you don't seem like the kind of person who would be convinced by me posting a video with lights moving and appearing in the sky, it's the whole ignorance thing. Besides, if you would have read my post, I am not trying to prove anything or convince anyone, I am trying to find someone who might know more about this.

Did you expect us to say" we believe you." Why would we? no.gif
Moonie2012
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Apr 29 2008, 10:58 AM) *
Did you expect us to say" we believe you." Why would we? no.gif

Because if we don't automatically believe, we're ignorant?
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ Apr 29 2008, 11:00 AM) *
Because if we don't automatically believe, we're ignorant?

Apparently. w00t.gif
Solarbite
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 29 2008, 12:49 AM) *
Tell ya what, you don't seem like the kind of person who would be convinced by me posting a video with lights moving and appearing in the sky, it's the whole ignorance thing. Besides, if you would have read my post, I am not trying to prove anything or convince anyone, I am trying to find someone who might know more about this.


Well no one is going to be able to help you if they don't believe you. Try to film this and put it up here. Obviuosly it sounds crazy that you can "control" ufo's with your mind. I have seen one of these star things, it's above my house every couple of nights. It's really bright, and it moves around in really weird liquid like patterns. So I'm not saying I don't believe you...But some evidence would be really nice for such a claim.
Solarbite
QUOTE (Bill Hill @ Apr 29 2008, 05:48 AM) *
There's only...so long I can hold the skeptics back... they're....they're breaking through....

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LULZ
Towknee
QUOTE (bee @ Apr 29 2008, 09:25 AM) *
Thanks for sharing......when I read your post, I remembered an interview I have recently
watched......it may be of interest to you.....

It's entitled Calling Down the Craft - Adventures with the Mind

A video interview with Bill Hamilton Laughlin, Nevada, March 2006.

Here it is >>>>>BILL HAMILTON INTERVIEW

By the way......I think you should embrace your experiences.....feel good about them......keep your
thoughts positive.........in a word.........REJOICE! thumbsup.gif



Thanks very much, I am letting it load right now and I am about to watch it. Thanks for being one of the only people who actually wanted to help me, which is what I asked for to begin with.

QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Apr 29 2008, 04:58 PM) *
Did you expect us to say" we believe you." Why would we? no.gif


To all the ignorant haters... If you would have (can you even?) read the original post, I made this thread to reach out to people like 'bee' who might know more about this. I have been experiencing this for about 5 days now, I have been more interested in the experience itself rather than running outside and getting it on camera so I can show it to the likes of you. I DO NOT CARE IF YOU BELIEVE ME, because if you don't believe me then odds are you know nothing about what I am experiencing and are of no help to me anyway. However.. I do think tonight I will ask a friend to borrow a quality camera so that more people might see and provide me with more information.
Moonie2012
Hey, Ignorant Hater here - I don't believe you and I think you are lying about the whole thing.

PLEASE prove me wrong. If you really ARE doing/seeing such a thing, it's your duty as a UM member to share such evidence with us.
raoulduke666
If I had that ability I would be trying to prove it to as many ways as possible to friends/family/community and especially the government. If you seriously have these powers get something to PROVE that you can do it because honestly, most members here arent gonna give you the time of day without proof. I wish I had that ability though...I would let the world know what I could do.
Towknee
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ Apr 29 2008, 07:30 PM) *
Hey, Ignorant Hater here - I don't believe you and I think you are lying about the whole thing.

PLEASE prove me wrong. If you really ARE doing/seeing such a thing, it's your duty as a UM member to share such evidence with us.


Man... why would I lie to you guys? I mean, seriously? I had not posted on this forum in a few months before this happened because I got stressed out reading these boards from all the fighting and all the bull, and the only reason I did was because I know there are a lot of extremely wise and intelligent people who do occasionally roam around. I am not asking for any kind of attention from people here, I don't want it! I just wanted to get some insight on what is going on with me, because I am a confused and excited about this and I want to know why it is happening to me.

Please guys, seriously... just stop accusing me of faking this, because its not really fair to me seeing as how I am not asking you guys to believe me. I respect your opinions, but I just don't want to be attacked anymore! tongue.gif
jonny b
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 29 2008, 12:03 PM) *
Man... why would I lie to you guys? I mean, seriously? I had not posted on this forum in a few months before this happened because I got stressed out reading these boards from all the fighting and all the bull, and the only reason I did was because I know there are a lot of extremely wise and intelligent people who do occasionally roam around. I am not asking for any kind of attention from people here, I don't want it! I just wanted to get some insight on what is going on with me, because I am a confused and excited about this and I want to know why it is happening to me.

Please guys, seriously... just stop accusing me of faking this, because its not really fair to me seeing as how I am not asking you guys to believe me. I respect your opinions, but I just don't want to be attacked anymore! tongue.gif


Well first off I would stop with the ignorant cracks, second, I would get some evidence or try to document what you are experiencing.Even If you didn't want to post them at least documenting this incident on video or something is a step foward in your understanding of what is going on.Third if you knew what these forums were like, then you knew you would get certain types of responces, and if you are looking for people with info that can help you, then what does it matter what anyone else says.But like I said in my other post, I am pretty sure that skeptics and believers alike will want to see some proof, and with proof, more and more people would be willing to help you with this.I am a believer in ufo's, but for all I know what you are describing could be atmospheric anomolies, and you are making it out to be more than it really is.I am not dismissing your claims, but it is very difficult for people to understand what it is that you are seeing when they cannot see it as well.If you really want answers then get as much info to other people as you can, and remember that even a skeptics opinions are important in solving your mystery.At least that is the way I look at it.A skeptical perspective on things can keep a healthy balance on things,you can't just have everything so one sided, and besides thats boring. tongue.gif
bee
QUOTE (bee @ Apr 29 2008, 08:25 AM) *
It's entitled Calling Down the Craft - Adventures with the Mind

A video interview with Bill Hamilton Laughlin, Nevada, March 2006.

Here it is >>>>>BILL HAMILTON INTERVIEW


Instead of all the pointless moaning and groaning and negative comments, all of you.....
why don't you watch the above video???

Bill Hamilton had similar experiences to the thread starter........and there's much more.....




Moonie2012
QUOTE (bee @ Apr 29 2008, 02:57 PM) *
Instead of all the pointless moaning and groaning and negative comments, all of you.....
why don't you watch the above video???


Well, for starters, unless the OP made the video, it has zippo to do with what he's seeing.

He's got the constant sightings and access to a camera, therefore the burden of proof is on him, not some video that may be similar to what he sees.

And even if I did watch it, I'd still like to see more proof of whatever it is.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (Tonyizzle @ Apr 29 2008, 01:22 PM) *
Thanks very much, I am letting it load right now and I am about to watch it. Thanks for being one of the only people who actually wanted to help me, which is what I asked for to begin with.



To all the ignorant haters... If you would have (can you even?) read the original post, I made this thread to reach out to people like 'bee' who might know more about this. I have been experiencing this for about 5 days now, I have been more interested in the experience itself rather than running outside and getting it on camera so I can show it to the likes of you. I DO NOT CARE IF YOU BELIEVE ME, because if you don't believe me then odds are you know nothing about what I am experiencing and are of no help to me anyway. However.. I do think tonight I will ask a friend to borrow a quality camera so that more people might see and provide me with more information.

Hey this is ignorant Eric. I don't believe a word you are saying. Sorry. Its real easy to make up a story.
bee
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ Apr 29 2008, 08:01 PM) *
Well, for starters, unless the OP made the video, it has zippo to do with what he's seeing.


It may have LOTS to do with what he's seeing.....but you'll never know, will you.....

Unless you watch it and see.......? original.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (bee @ Apr 29 2008, 02:57 PM) *
Instead of all the pointless moaning and groaning and negative comments, all of you.....
why don't you watch the above video???

Bill Hamilton had similar experiences to the thread starter........and there's much more.....

So you are willing to believe anything anyone is willing to write?I'm not.Just read some Stephen King. It is the same thing. Fiction.
Moonie2012
QUOTE (bee @ Apr 29 2008, 03:03 PM) *
It may have LOTS to do with what he's seeing.....but you'll never know, will you.....

Unless you watch it and see.......? original.gif


I don't need to watch it - it has nothing to do with any evidence the OP is providing, therefore it's pointless to the validity of this particular case.
jonny b
QUOTE (bee @ Apr 29 2008, 12:57 PM) *
Instead of all the pointless moaning and groaning and negative comments, all of you.....
why don't you watch the above video???

Bill Hamilton had similar experiences to the thread starter........and there's much more.....


Who is moaning and groaning?

I think that people who are asking for this guy to get proof are asking, because it would seem from his claims that he would be able to get it.What does it hurt in asking for some evidence?I for one am very intrested in being able to see what this guy sees over the last few nights.weather people try to debunk or prove it, at least he will be getting some help in getting to the bottom of his mystery.Is that not why he is here in the first place?
bee
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Apr 29 2008, 08:04 PM) *
So you are willing to believe anything anyone is willint to write?I'm not.Just read some Stephen King. It is the same thing. Fiction.



I make judgements on what I see and hear......I judge the opening post in this thread to be
genuine.....and I judge the Bill Hamilton interview to be truthful.

I won't tell you what judgements I make about the people who just crash around this site
being negative and unfriendly......because.......well.....only you/they know why you/they
do that.

Motive is EVERYTHING. yes.gif




jonny b
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Apr 29 2008, 01:04 PM) *
So you are willing to believe anything anyone is willing to write?I'm not.Just read some Stephen King. It is the same thing. Fiction.


hah! that made me laugh!
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (bee @ Apr 29 2008, 03:13 PM) *
I make judgements on what I see and hear......I judge the opening post in this thread to be
genuine.....and I judge the Bill Hamilton interview to be truthful.

I won't tell you what judgements I make about the people who just crash around this site
being negative and unfriendly......because.......well.....only you/they know why you/they
do that.

Motive is EVERYTHING. yes.gif

Calling it like we see it is normal. Pretending is just silly. Many of us get tired of all the BS stories that are posted. Peace.
Moonie2012
QUOTE (bee @ Apr 29 2008, 03:13 PM) *
I won't tell you what judgements I make about the people who just crash around this site
being negative and unfriendly......because.......well.....only you/they know why you/they
do that.


Fair enough - and I won't tell you what judgments I make about people who blindly believe everything they read, especially around here.
Teufelhund
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Apr 29 2008, 09:16 PM) *
Many of us get tired of all the BS stories that are posted. Peace.


Amen.
bee
QUOTE (jonny b @ Apr 29 2008, 08:12 PM) *
Who is moaning and groaning?


Sorry...just nipped back and read your post....you are not one of the 'moaners'.....I should have
said MOST of you.......


Just seen your last post....so scrub that..... tongue.gif
jonny b
QUOTE (bee @ Apr 29 2008, 01:20 PM) *
Sorry...just nipped back and read your post....you are not one of the 'moaners'.....I should have
said MOST of you.......


Just seen your last post....so scrub that..... tongue.gif


lol, hehe ok............................................... original.gif
ASOP
Why would you ask for us to beleive you when you wont share with us what you see? Why even post it. If you have proof then show it. It dont make sence im not being mean im just stating the fact...if you can make a UFO appear then do so and let us see the proof just dont make the statment.
Sweetpumper
QUOTE (ASOP @ Apr 29 2008, 08:27 PM) *
Why would you ask for us to beleive you when you wont share with us what you see?


Maybe you missed this part:

QUOTE
I am not posting this to amaze you, or convince you, because honestly I don't care. I just want someone to please help me..

Towknee
QUOTE (ASOP @ Apr 29 2008, 09:27 PM) *
Why would you ask for us to beleive you when you wont share with us what you see? Why even post it. If you have proof then show it. It dont make sence im not being mean im just stating the fact...if you can make a UFO appear then do so and let us see the proof just dont make the statment.


I didn't make the statement, it was in fact a question. I am trying to find more information. Please read through the thread, I have answered your question on why I have not taken a video. It's not like im some scientist guy with expensive equipment... I've been trying to work on finding someone who will let me borrow a telescope first, haha. But when I do post a video everyone is going to be hating on me even more than they are now... That isn't exactly motivation if you know what I mean.

Mr.Dot
Hey, why are you ignoring me, I want to help you. I just need video footage!
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