QUOTE (MID @ May 6 2008, 02:15 PM)

On the contrary. Youtube is a repository for dumnbed down Americans, and others, to express anything, even complete falsehood, without the restrictions of critical review or the requirement of substantiation, or even ethics. Of course, a great deal of the Internet is that way as well, which is it's falacy.
As i said, they have nothing to express, meaning they express a vast nothingness...
QUOTE (MID @ May 6 2008, 02:15 PM)

Again, you neither read, or listen do you...
I read plenty thank you very much, and i am always listening.
QUOTE (MID @ May 6 2008, 02:15 PM)

It would really behoove you to read.
Then you might see who's actually brainwashed....
Yeah... i did.
Lets just take a walk down denial lane and ill show you your ingrained methods...
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Startling reality here, america has a 60% obesity rate, and many of these people CANT MOVE... something to do with diet? Maybe too much undigestable partially hydrogenated cottonseed oil in that KFC/Fast food?
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That's startling how?
You speak as if this general idea isn't known.
Of course, your figures are, rather naturally, a bit off. Obesity in America is at around 30-35%. Overweight is at about 60-65%...but who cares about the details? 2/3 of America is overweight or obese. But that's just a fact, it's not startling anymore, and there's no mystery that it has to do with diet, as well as attitudes, and lifestyles reflective of those attitudes.
All that, just like your attitudes about "reality", are a choice.
But this has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
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Only because you choose to see it as a seperate problem, not because you recognize there is a fundamental flaw in those attitude's and lifestyles that lead to this problem.
Then denial sets in, you quote yourself and remove the part that puts you in denial and you say...
QUOTE (MID @ May 6 2008, 02:15 PM)

I mentioned no "separate problem". In fact, there's absolutely no reference to a "separate" anything in my statement.
I simply pointed out that there's nothing startling about the fact that 2/3 of Americans are functionally overweight.
It was distressing when it was pointed out, and when I had observed it for myself...years and years ago. However, it's not startling. Startling implies that it's never been seen before, and suddenly, this "horror" presents itself. No such thing exists in that situation.
Except the GROWING VOLUME of people falling into the problem of this lifestyle, and the lifestyle of denying this problem along with countless others...
Again,
you missed the point.
QUOTE (MID @ May 6 2008, 02:15 PM)

You choose to be influenced by, and shape your life around the "massive negative entity" that controls our government.
People choose to allow themselves to be fat. People choose to eat KFC, or anything else.
Yes, because one day they will be barging into homes and forcing people to go and die for their country, the rest will be forced to work for nothing and we will have another Nazi Regime on our hands...
QUOTE (MID @ May 6 2008, 02:15 PM)

They have the ability to change any and all of that, if they wish. You have a choice to do something positive with your life...and railing against the evil inherent in government, while a combination of truth, in small measure, and fantasy as the rest, is your choice.
Yes, and by right im exercising my choice. If you had a more positive outlook on what i was saying you might look into it yourself. It is not fantasy, it is reality, and most people cant hang.
QUOTE (MID @ May 6 2008, 02:15 PM)

I've addressed this before, and as with prior posts I've made, you neglect the points made entirely and prefer to say nonsensical things about people in denial...as if.
People have choices.
They can choose to eat KFC, or not. And the evil government and the media has absolutely no control over that choice--despite their efforts to sway you into believing this is good, that is bad, this is what you need to do, that is what you shouldn't do, etc...
They can choose to vote for idiots, or not. The government has no control over that. No matter how they or their media tries to influence you...they just can't do it, if you don't allow them to.
Yes, but few realize the sway of the media IS influencing enough of the majority to think we even have "fair elections", when you learn in high school the entire thing is out of your hands, there is no public vote, we have an electoral college of representatives, almost all of which are from old money or the corporate umbrella, not looking out for the interests of the people.
QUOTE (MID @ May 6 2008, 02:15 PM)

You have a choice to believe what they tell you, to accept everything as gospel truth. You also have a choice to be discriminating, and see value where value is present, and see nonsense where nonsense is present, or--you have a choice to believe EVERTYTHING is a conspiracy against you, and you have no power over it, and you must rail against it...a voice crying in the wilderness.
Everything is not a conspiracy, and i do have power over it. I enjoy the company of real people, not bureaucrats and professional liars...
QUOTE (MID @ May 6 2008, 02:15 PM)

One extreme or the other is never a really good choice. The middle way has always been the truest, and most affectatious methodology.
You belong to the latter herd...everything's evil, and you're so far gone, at such a young age, that you don't even read what's said--you interpret it from your skewed perspective.
It is the Elite who choose the extreme measures to be taken, like say 9/11 and an unending war against an imaginary enemy "the terrorists!"
My "skewed interpretations" realize the media is just a propaganda tool for the government to sway public opinion any which way they see fit, and it works flawlessly...
As for you, you dont even seem to know what you said, so why should i lend you any credence?
It sickens me to know that the media constantly puts out the image of the "conspiracy theorist" as an insane, brainwashed, non-sensical human, obviously flawed in his interpretations of government.
The individual starts thinking and goes "Isnt that convenient?" and suddenly a whole new world is open to him, and he must choose between "us" or "them" as our favorite Tard President of der Uniterd States so elegantly declared.