Do i really have to explain this? isn't it plainly obvious that animal cruelty arises when the people no longer care for the animal because to them it is just a dollar bill?
KFC chickens are not even chickens. They are generation after generation of hormone pumped quasi-chicken that lives a life nothing like a real bird, they are sold meat, it just takes them awhile to get big enough to kill.
Packed into tiny cages by the hundred-thousands and they walk in their own feces day and night. They are never brought out to see the light of day, the weak are ground up and fed back to the masses just like how "mad-cow" disease afflicted the beef industry. If you want the human version of "mad-cow", EAT YOUR FRIENDS, no really they are tasty, im sure you wont miss their personalities.

The link between ape and human, is man. Man does whatever he pleases, no matter how outrageous. He denies that life is life, and should be respected as such. He steals, lies, cheats, kills, and does more things to destroy health, to destroy knowledge, to destroy everything "human" about his race than anyone wants to admit.

I fervently believe that man has a right of divinity that surpasses the alien influence that has brought this kind of sickness upon us. I dont care if you dont believe me when i say that at one time, just around the time consciousness was born to the human race, a high-tech alien race came and started genetic experiments on our very roots. If not physical aliens, surely anyone can plainly see that no "human" in his right mind would allow this kind of madness and desecration of our planet. It is "our" planet, the only one we know, and the only one we have. but i digress, this is about chickens in a slaughter-house, or is it?

What is the world you see around you? Do you hear of useless death, useless food, useless knowledge? Do you see love and peace blooming in all directions, or an entire planet of distraction in the form of drugs, alcohol, wasted sexuality, and the search for the loophole that will give you a nice car, a nice corner to live in, and hopefully will allow you to make yourself known, atleast on a wide enough scale to make you feel good about yourself.
All i see is infinite distance in every direction, and i know i am not wrong in that. The universe is a VERY large place, and to think we are alone is insanity, most things people think about the world around them is insanity, and by right noone has been given any guidance in what the universe ACTUALLY is. Or for that matter what they are. You are not what you choose to be, or what you see yourself as, you are at this moment exactly what you have done with your whole life, and there is no escaping this(unless you have a time machine). In most cases, you and I and everyone else is like those chickens.

We live in our own filthy individual interpretations of "right" and "wrong" changing by the minute, packed neatly together in cages of various sizes. We go to work to sustain our cages, and sit to watch the TV while the world flounders on unable to help itself.

400 years ago america was all beautiful land, untouched by "civilization" as we know it. Most people never even stop to think the horrible wrong that was brought down on the natives of this land and many, many, many others for that matter. The land was wild, as it should be. The natives knew not to upset the natural balance, they lived in peace and harmony with nature, something that still exists in small corners of the world, but is now threatened more than ever. What will happen when the entire world is paved streets and ungodly spires, the earths stones and metals perverted to form another cuboid atrocity, even with worldwide devastation it will take much time for these things to become again what they once were, natural.

We live in something so unnatural it drives those who see it to utter madness, and God damnit all i would rather tend a field of wheat without genetic modification, without the "cash-crop" industry destroying all bio-diversity.
Atleast then i could know i was not helping to continue this horrid system so many people cannot even see, or contemplate.

Poison. The poison is everywhere. It is in your mind right now, it is seeping over your true "human" self and quenching it with false justification in the form of lie after lie that eventually controls your entire being. When you are at work, sustaining your life because there is no other way(unless you know how to grow your own food, but even then you need money to "buy" a piece of the earth that should rightfully be yours anyway!) do you feel like an emotionless biological machine? Even if you don't feel that way, do you see how it does happen to some people?

This is a massive problem, and it is because people lose themselves to money. They lose self-worth, self expression, and actively deny themselves what they want, for a dollar bill to continue the same system.

KFC chicken is one thing, one SMALL thing dwarfed by the more apparent problem that people allow themselves to become lost in their interpretation of the world, and the farther they go, the more they hate themselves, and the worse the problem gets. Denial sets in as a defense mechanism and is used at every opportunity available to quell dissenting voices, the whole of american society is BASED on this.

9/11, the most obvious false flag operation(or satanic mega-ritual stargate opening) in preparation for the "end of the world" as we know it.

"mission accomplished"

Oh yes, when you heard those words from our half-r******ed puppet of a president you thought the war was over, right?
7 years later and we are ready to strike Iran, the anti-muslim propaganda is slowly poisoning the public, preparing them for yet another false flag attack, preparing them for war abroad, and preparing them to deny yet again that it was the powers that be playing their sick game of ritual sacrifice in the form of war.

If 9/11 was no indication to you the outright control they have over public opinion, just watch as 9/11 part 2 unfolds before your eyes.

Ask yourself this question, has ignorance, or innocence ever spared anyone from great suffering?

I would say "think for yourself", but as soon as anyone does that they agree completely with everything they see on television, the brainwashing is too deep in too many people's minds, and the poison of the system to great.

After all that reading I'm suddenly hungry for some chicken

Obviously, using KFC chickens to illustrate the modren human perspective is going to be met with alot of poo-pooers. However, never afriad to stick my neck out for a good chopping, I think the main problem is that the industrial "chickens" only know their cages. Why question the reality you have been born, raised and lived in your entire life? As crappy as the lives of industrial chickens might seem to us, it the only life they have known. They are unable to imagine or expect anything better. After all, the concept of a chicken "crossing the road" is a joke.

Plato's The Cave [Book VII of The Republic]. Kinda like how humans are sleeping through their dream-scape existence in the Matrix, to feed the System?

This rant is hardly shocking.

Everybody was born and everybody will die..

One way or another..

The human brain perceives the external world through the senses, and each individual human is influenced greatly by his or her experiences, leading to subjective views of existence and the passage of time. Humans are variously said to possess consciousness, self-awareness, and a mind, which correspond roughly to the mental processes of thought. These are said to possess qualities such as self-awareness, sentience, sapience, and the ability to perceive the relationship between oneself and one's environment.

Motivation is the driving force of desire behind all deliberate actions of human beings. Motivation is based on emotion — specifically, on the search for satisfaction (positive emotional experiences), and the avoidance of conflict. Positive and negative is defined by the individual brain state, which may be influenced by social norms: a person may be driven to self-injury or violence because their brain is conditioned to create a positive response to these actions. Motivation is important because it is involved in the performance of all learned responses. Within psychology, conflict avoidance and the libido are seen to be primary motivators. Within economics motivation is often seen to be based on financial incentives, moral incentives, or coercive incentives. Religions generally posit divine or demonic influences.


Emotion has a significant influence on, or can even be said to control, human behavior, though historically many cultures and philosophers have for various reasons discouraged allowing this influence to go unchecked. Emotional experiences perceived as pleasant, such as love, admiration, or joy, contrast with those perceived as unpleasant, like hate, envy, or sorrow. There is often a distinction made between refined emotions which are socially learned and survival oriented emotions, which are thought to be innate. Human exploration of emotions as separate from other neurological phenomena is worthy of note, particularly in cultures where emotion is considered separate from physiological state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human#Consciousness_and_thought

Life isn't all that bad now is it ? ( Compared to the olden days )

We've cured many diseases that used to kill by the thousands. Going to the dentist is relatively painless. You can travel across the world in a matter of hours. People live much longer. With a little schooling you can pretty much choose whatever career you wish. And the jobs are much safer and cleaner than they used to be.

I would much rather live in the hear-and-now than I would one to two hundred years ago. Even if it was in a time where KFC didn't exist.

Interesting point.




Just on KFC tho, the last time i ate that ***SNIP***, all i tasted was fat fat & more finger dripping licking fat.
I could actually hear my arteries harding with every bite.

Shoot. I was hoping Zaus' rant would have been along the lines of "KFC makes black men impotent". That's currently my favourite CT and I think it needs some Zaus-spleen to help spread the news.

--Jaylemurph

I was hoping to see a story about how KFC geneticly alter's there chickens, and how they tried to breed four legged chickens. Wait a sec did they do these things? hmmmm. As far as KFC making the black man sterile hmmm if I was black I would use that as a form of birth control. What can a white guy eat that does the same thing LOL

I have to wonder... is everything somehow related to 9/11???

KFC uses chicken, granted they may not have a glam life before they become part of the bargin bucket, but they are chicken. Veal is a baby cow shoved in a wooden pen and unable to move it's entire short life... but because it doesn't get to play tag in the pasture with it's friends, does it make it any less a calf?

I read the description of the 'chicken' the OP made, and wondered... what are people who live thier entire life in an institution... are they less than people because of their up-bringing?

And no, I am not a meat eatter just shooting down yet another urban legand, I am a 'veggie', and have been for almost 3 decades.

Zuas I hear ya. Does anyone care? I do. I do not eat KFC for many many reasons mostly what you have pointed out.

I want some wings. mashed taters and gravy and cole slaw

I live here in Kentucky. You would be suprised on how many people drive here to protest KFC. Like Kentuckians are at fault instead of the company. People tell them where to go ... nicely to the headquarters in Corbin, but they just keep chanting away. I personally loved the "chicken rapers go to hell" chant. So much unjustified hate!!!

Me as well Bogcreeper

My mother works at a KFC. Last year they introduced this so-called 'nontransfat' oil. They introduced this bill that sailed through congress which fasttracked this oil. Problem with it is... It coats your lungs with an amazing amount of sticky vapor. My mom has never endured asthma in her life. Last year she developed an anomaly. Thats what doctors call it. She has fits of not being able to breath when she cooks chicken with this non-transfatty oil. They had to buy different cleaning products in order to combat the grease buildup. This product was genetically modified with no test period in between. This product is bad. Don't buy that stuff.

KFC Cole Slaw ROCKS!!!

I thought that was beautifully written zaus, despite the morbid truth of it all

btw freedom tower- just looked it up eerie

Just some trivia...?

Did ya know;
KFC is not allowed to be named Kentucky Fried Chicken (legal reasons) because they use cloned chicken instead of real chicken. These cloned “chickens” are kept alive by tubes inserted into their bodies to pump blood and nutrients. Also, they have no beaks, feather, or feet and their bone structure is shrunk only so their body holds more meat! This was all done only to cut down on expenses - no more plucking feathers, removal of beaks or feet. But I haven’t seen what those “chickens” look like till now.





and I thought the were just trying to look cool with their new name.

Anyone know the 11 Secret Herbs &and Spices?

I will never eat at KFC again Rebel, and thanks for that, no really

How is it more economical for them to have gentically altered chicken-like products? There isn't exactly a shortage of 'natural' chickens... And... when did the FDA allow cloning for human consumption?

I think the reason they changed the name to KFC is because of the "Fried" stigma. People are more health conscious. No, changing the name doesn't make the crappy fried food any healthier, but it's a matter of public perception.

I think thats an urban legend dude. I'm not saying KFC's food is good or that I recomened eating it. But do you think the government really cares about what companies call the genticaly modified, freaks of nature they feed us? They don't even have to tell us when something is GMO, as far as I know.

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/food/kfc.asp

IDK Lady V, but feel free to Googley Googley Google it. I assume it's to cut down on production costs from cage to processing?
I actually received an email on it about a year ago, lost it since.


For Zaus...Just had a light bulb moment...

11 Secret Herbs & Spices...err 911

I thinks i better actually go do some work now...

That's just silly...they went to the KFC name for the same reason NAPA Auto Parts is now pronounced like Napa instead of in my Dad's day when they refused to be called anything but N-A-P-A....it's more modern.

This whole thread is an urban myth people!

I figured as much el, thats why i ''?'' it.


Just had another thought...Kenturkey Fried chicken....awww man now i'm really going back to work!

Actually you raised a good point there.
The Australian government here passed a law few years back allowing meat pie companies to use 'all parts' of animals in our meat pies 'so long as it contained at least 10% real/actual beef' - Fact. Made the papers here and all.

urban legend/urban myth/urban conspiracy theory( )... sometimes i wonder, whats frigg'n difference...

^ Not much difference.

I thought you were going back to work.

lol!

Yes, going right now, my boss is giving me the evil eye...I work at KFC.

****! Beat me to it!


No, I think you are on to something... Secret (six letters) Herbs & Spices /or/ H&S (3 letters) 6+3=9 So 11 Secret H(erbs) & S(pices)=11 9 /or/ 9/11

I think... I think... yes, I'm having a vision...

Colonel Sanders did not die in 1980, but in fact has been living underground in secret with Hitler and the Reptilians. He was the mastermind behind 9/11, capturing the souls of all who died in order to begin Armageddon. The 11 "Secret Herbs & Spices" are in fact a voodoo potion which creates zombie slaves. Once Colonel Sanders rises as the AntiChrist, he will control the masses of voodoo slaves in order to enslave the world!

What? It's as valid as any other theory...

El M is, as often, quite right. Anybody attentive enough to ads will notice they have again started advertising themselves as "Kentucky Fried Chicken".

It's right there on the homepage, "Kentucky Fried Chicken".

As usual, a little reality exposes how little Zaus knows what he's talking about.

--Jaylemurph

Does that apply to chicken too
... just wondering?
( I think I actually got this pic from you Rebs,
I hope it wasn't from work)

lol that fried chicken head is classic

I likes you already dn, you got a crazier sense of humor than me.


Posted one like that in Kak's thread, was actually found in a box of Mcdonald's chicken McNuggets.
That beak would be extra crunchy eh? Chicken heads are a delicacy in Thailand & Vietnam...

BTW Mac, waz kidd'n bout work'n at KFC. Wouldn't work in a place like that even if they payed me triple time all day every day 365 days a year (probably still work out to slave wages) lol! Wouldn't mind owning a franchise tho!

I really didn't think you had a laptop on the kfc counter checking out UM while you were suppose to be working ... but you never know

Classy gentleman as always, eh?

Now that chicken head would really get to me. *shudders*

The Colonel's 11 secret herds & spices...

didn't ghandi once say 'you can tell the greatness if a nation by the way it treats its animals'

i believe zaus is correct when he draws the comparison to our own lives and the battery hens existance..

it seems some of us are entirely satisfied to be fed various pellets and head towards oblivion..

...I can't figure out which is better...The Colonel's herds and spices or two "all beef" patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese , pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun...!

..or, which might be worse (as I recall, both had given me a strange rumbling sound in my gut).

I might suggest that Zaus is a classic example...



Don't know, but he did say "If someone were to ask me what the most important outward manifestation of Hinduism was, I would suggest that it was the idea of cow protection,"
And please, take Ghandi's remark in context. He lived in a nation where cows are sacred animals...not sources of food.

When 3/10 % of a major Indian city's (Dehli, for instance) population is COWS ...one has to realize that a Hindu is speaking from a particular frame of reference that no one else in the world likely adheres to...

but he's not.. since he's one of these battery hens that questions his existance and clucks for the others to also question...


well.. i don't quite follow this..? please bare with me..

an 'outsider' has asked this thing of ghandi, to which ghandi has replied "the IDEA of cow protection" .. ghandi seems to be conveying the notion as a mere IDEA to the outsider who is asking (because the outsider is not part of the inner circle who already understands it as a philosophy) ..the words 'outward' and 'manifestation' are also used, this supports what i am saying..

as for cows being 'sacred' animals.. i don't get this either.. (i know what you're saying.. but how do i say this?) if the hindu's have ascribed some divine status to a cow, then they're obviously treating it higher than a 'food parcel'

it's also been suggested "with so many people starving in india, why didn't they just eat those cows?" ..some kind of restraint has been put in place there..

i could not articulate better because i can't follow your reasoning.. (this is interesting to me, because i've seen your posts before and i know you have a brain )


right.. it's like i said about the 'outsider' asking the question of the one who is already in the 'inner circle'

please forgive my lack of intelligence but i don't get what you're saying here.. would you mind rephrasing if you happen to see this again?


uh, homer.. you're drooling on the mic' again

OMG I have never seen that before LOL ... Yet gross at the same time.. I guess this is the Colonels secret recipe.

In reference to Zaus, I would contend that he is a member of the battery hen class that does nothing but cluck about that which they conceives of, and everything they conceives of comes from their particular battery hen mindset--one which absorbes almost everything save rational thinking and favors that.

You said, regarding Zaus:



You see, Zaus thinks everyone is blind to his peculiar and highly negative stance on everything. If you can peel away his CT mindset which sees everything in a conspiratorial light, there are certain points regarding the general herd mentality that is in fact present among many humans which are true...however, he takes that and adds fantasy to it in droves.



What I'm saying is that Zaus is a calssic example of that. His pellets are irrational, illogical, and unfounded speculations which paint everything in a dispicable, conspiratorial light. There is only doom and gloom with Zaus. He is an example of an increasingly large segment of the population (still, thankfully a minority, but nonetheless significant) which has, by its own negativity, and lack of critical/rational thinking skills, created another dogmatic herd, which he is doing nothing but blindly following.





Thank you for pointing out the lack of clarity in my reference.
My thoughts were on a rather narrow aspect of this post, and it appears that I may have been too brief and may not have explained what I was talking about fully enough. I beg your indulgence!

(I do have a brain...but only sometimes, it seems!)

We should go back to the original premise here.
I was reading about people's impressions of the treatment of KFC chickens.
The fact is, there's nothing different about KFC chickens from any other chickens produced as a food source. We would all, very likely, if exposed to chicken farming for food, be somewhat distressed at the mass production techniques and the conditions that chickens are raised and kept in.

It's done for efficiency, basically. It could be done better, and is...on a relatively small scale, but mass chicken production, like beef, or pork, involves efficiently raising and then slaughtering animals for market. It's not a job for the fainthearted, certainly, and is completely unpalletable for some...but, if you eat it, you'd better accept production methods, otherwise, you have a choice: don't buy it, and don't eat it. That's fine too, but you see, for meat raisers in a country like America, the animals are foodstuffs, like wheat and corn. The animals are treated similarly. They're not pets, they're raised quickly and efficiently for food purposes.

I'm not getting into the aspect of hormone enhancement in certain meats products, or processing versus organic or free range raising methods. I'm simply addressing the facts of modern mass meat production, and its relation to your question regarding an alleged Ghandi comment:




The implication in this statement (which again, I don't know to be a factual utterance of the great man), is, in my mind, implying that because of America's food production techniques, which seems to be perceived as mis-treatment of animals, our country is somehow diminished. It implies mis-treatment of animals.

My reference to Hindu cow worship, and Ghandi's alleged statement, which may in fact be a true statement of his, was to place it in context:

In the region where Ghandi lived, cows were, and are revered religious objects...so much so that significant populations of cows litter the streets of major cities with bovine feces and urine streaming down the curbs (Ever been standing near a cow when it lets loose with a big old pee???! Whooo, that's a hell of a fluid dump...(no water retention there!)).

Now, placing this in context, I should say that if there's some negative associated with the way we treat food animals in relation to the way that Indians treat their non-food animals, there's a disconnect and an unassociated paradigm at work.

In India, they don't raise beef. They revere cows as sacred beings. We don't, we raise them as food sources. There's no relation to mass-producing beef and milk and having cows polluting our cities.

Indeed, given the level of water quality, the often squalid conditions prevelent in Indian environs, the lack of water quality, the stench, the pollution, and the disease that frequently plagues people in that region (not to mention the weather conditions), perhaps it's not such a good idea to compare the seeming mis-treatment of animals in America with the seeminly irrational reverence for the same animals in India, given the respective results.

In fact, I could say that the way a country treats its people is reflective of the greatness of the country. Further, I might be inclined to say that reverence for cows to the level to which it is done in India, for instance, shows a lack of regard for the people , who are forced...or perhaps willing, to live among them in often squalid and unhealthful conditions...in many cases, conditions produced by the cows themselves!

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(...look, there are some fairly nasty rivers in America, granted. I'd not be inclined to take a swim in many sections of the Delaware, for instance, around Philadelphia. But if you gave me a choice between having a swim in the Delaware, and getting dunked in the Ganges, the holy river, where you may come out of the expereience enlightened, and battling dysentery, I choose the Delaware!)

Besides, when we speak of 'how we treat our animals', that's rather broad. Mass-produced meat is one thing. However, watch how we treat our animals that aren't used for food. Visit a horse farm, talk to a pet owner who loves her dogs or cats, or whatever. If that's any indication, America is OK, animal treatment wise.


That's rather the context in which my remark was made. I hope I explained it.

But the bottom line is, as pertains to KFC, if you object to chicken raising methods...well, you have a choice: don't eat it.
You could always go to Boston Market and get a real meal there. People tell me it's pretty good stuff!

However, no matter what chicken you eat, it should be realized that whether it's KFC, or Boston Market, or one of those Purdue Over Stuffer Roasters that is lovingly prepapred by Mom in her kitchen, it was all raised and slaughtered in the same fashion...in many cases by the same chicken farm!

I dont have a negative stance on everything, i have a realistic stance, one that ya'know, encompasses REAL things, like the REAL cloning of millions of chickens...

And the millions of people who eat those chickens...

In a literal sense, "you are what you eat"

or if you prefer ancient alchemaical wisdom "As above, So below"

EDIT: is this like, too hard to believe? you can look it up!!!

If you like, ill give you a youtube video of one-hundred thousand KFC chickens locked in cages, some dead, some obviously sickly, and the rest fat and atrophied to the point that they cannot move...

Startling reality here, america has a 60% obesity rate, and many of these people CANT MOVE... something to do with diet? Maybe too much undigestable partially hydrogenated cottonseed oil in that KFC/Fast food?

Your realisism is negative.

More ancient alchemical wisdom:

"You create your own reality. If you see everything as being negative, that's what you'll create. So be it!




Looking something up on youtube is not reliable, as has been pointed out to you before. Due to their inept lack of critical review, it is a repository for loads of crap; the epitome of the negative side of the Internet illustrated. You never know what you're actually looking at. There are good sources available.

Not to say that such things as you describe haven't existed. They have...but at youtube, many of the offerings there are fabricated, unsubstantiated, and edited to create a certain impression in support of an agenda.

Your primary informational source is irrelevant.



That's startling how?
You speak as if this general idea isn't known.
Of course, your figures are, rather naturally, a bit off. Obesity in America is at around 30-35%. Overweight is at about 60-65%...but who cares about the details? 2/3 of America is overweight or obese. But that's just a fact, it's not startling anymore, and there's no mystery that it has to do with diet, as well as attitudes, and lifestyles reflective of those attitudes.


All that, just like your attitudes about "reality", are a choice.

But this has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

i expect nothing less from people in denial, ever heard the phrase "the world isnt fair?"



I dont see everything as negative, you assumed that, not me. I am simply aware of a massive negative entity that controls our government.



denial by association... im talking about video of KFC chicken farms, there is no "critical review", in-fact the guy is obviously too shocked whilst sneaking in his camera to say anything...



Only if you dont know where to look my friend. If you can think for yourself its easy to cast the BS aside. Really though, Youtube allows expression of opinion, most dumbed down americans have nothing to express...


denial by association again here we go... Its not hard to brainwash anyone, you are your own proof, as i was my own proof before i realized how Fed the system was. The psychological goal here? Youtube isnt "credible", thus youtube is all lies, the "experts" on TV are credible, thus everything they say is truth...



Only because you choose to see it as a seperate problem, not because you recognize there is a fundamental flaw in those attitude's and lifestyles that lead to this problem.

EDIT: You should be startled, its a very startling thing reality.

After reading all that chuckleing ect I think I just may start that veg-diet after all. Whewwwwwww -weeeee that can make you sick if you think too much about it! DONTEATUS

Most things in the real world demand awareness and massive change.

You guys think KFC is bad you need to check out Pilgrams Pride and see what goes on there,I Been to the one in Dallas and it isnt a pretty picture.

JUst send Bo-Pilgram a note to quit putting steriods in those chicks!

Yes, denial, of course...
The world isn't fair? What's that mean?

Oh wait, I've got it: you think I think the world isn't fair because you think I think that what you say about it isn't fair. I get it.
It's not fair that the world is so terrible, and there is evil everywhere, and there's a massive conspiracy which takes away our free will and power of choice and renders us helpless to defend ourselves against the onslaught of societal conditioning.

I don't think you listen too well.



On the contrary. Youtube is a repository for dumnbed down Americans, and others, to express anything, even complete falsehood, without the restrictions of critical review or the requirement of substantiation, or even ethics. Of course, a great deal of the Internet is that way as well, which is it's falacy.




Again, you neither read, or listen do you...

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Not to say that such things as you describe haven't existed. They have...but at youtube, many of the offerings there are fabricated, unsubstantiated, and edited to create a certain impression in support of an agenda.

Youtube is all lies?
And who said anything about TV?

It would really behoove you to read.
Then you might see who's actually brainwashed....





Ditto:

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That's startling how?
You speak as if this general idea isn't known.
Of course, your figures are, rather naturally, a bit off. Obesity in America is at around 30-35%. Overweight is at about 60-65%...but who cares about the details? 2/3 of America is overweight or obese. But that's just a fact, it's not startling anymore, and there's no mystery that it has to do with diet, as well as attitudes, and lifestyles reflective of those attitudes.

All that, just like your attitudes about "reality", are a choice.

I mentioned no "separate problem". In fact, there's absolutely no reference to a "separate" anything in my statement.
I simply pointed out that there's nothing startling about the fact that 2/3 of Americans are functionally overweight.

It was distressing when it was pointed out, and when I had observed it for myself...years and years ago. However, it's not startling. Startling implies that it's never been seen before, and suddenly, this "horror" presents itself. No such thing exists in that situation.


Again, you missed the point.

You choose to be influenced by, and shape your life around the "massive negative entity" that controls our government.
People choose to allow themselves to be fat. People choose to eat KFC, or anything else.

They have the ability to change any and all of that, if they wish. You have a choice to do something positive with your life...and railing against the evil inherent in government, while a combination of truth, in small measure, and fantasy as the rest, is your choice.

I've addressed this before, and as with prior posts I've made, you neglect the points made entirely and prefer to say nonsensical things about people in denial...as if.

People have choices.
They can choose to eat KFC, or not. And the evil government and the media has absolutely no control over that choice--despite their efforts to sway you into believing this is good, that is bad, this is what you need to do, that is what you shouldn't do, etc...

They can choose to vote for idiots, or not. The government has no control over that. No matter how they or their media tries to influence you...they just can't do it, if you don't allow them to.

You have a choice to believe what they tell you, to accept everything as gospel truth. You also have a choice to be discriminating, and see value where value is present, and see nonsense where nonsense is present, or--you have a choice to believe EVERTYTHING is a conspiracy against you, and you have no power over it, and you must rail against it...a voice crying in the wilderness.


One extreme or the other is never a really good choice. The middle way has always been the truest, and most affectatious methodology.

You belong to the latter herd...everything's evil, and you're so far gone, at such a young age, that you don't even read what's said--you interpret it from your skewed perspective.


It's sad...and rather a waste of time.


Besides, I addressed unit...not you.