i got a book on white magic and found plenty of interesting things in it i'd like to try but i want to be careful. Do you guys believe in it? do you have stories to share? any tips?

There is also green magic.

Faith is good, but it is not something to completely rely on. What I mean is, if somebody is seriously ill or injured, always call medical professionals, and never rely on white magic, herbal "remedies", faith, etc. You can believe it, just don't put too much belief into it.

Very true thanks!

White magic is a form of wicca. Only use it for good.

I didn't even know it could be used for evil. I always thought white magic is just healing, black is destruction, and green is nature....right?

That's what i thought also, except the part about the green i had no clue that one existed LOL. I would use it for good that's for sure!

Good to know, just, like I said before, rely on science before relying on faith.

YES ~ nothing more than 'Intentions' ~ 'focused' like a laser ~ driven by powerful 'desire' ~ and holding an image in the mind.
My Theory, Thought does not go through space ~ Space is in Thought.

Green is for nature or money. Red is for love. Any type of magic can to twisted into evil. Just remember any evil comes back 3 fold. Good come back 5 fold. Never do magic spells if you are upset or mad.

Oh i didn't know that good advice thanks!

Your most welcome. I am glad I helped you

There is only one kind of magik, it is how you use it that matters!

WRONG There many types of magic or magik. You need to travel and learn before you speak

Although this is an English language forum, I notice that you are quebecoise, and so it may be permissible to give the following links, written in the French language by a fellow quebecoise:

http://lailaseshat.canalblog.com/archives/...ckes/index.html

While I cannot vouch for the efficacy of the magic itself, Laila Seshat is a good writer and seems knowledgeable about the color categories she discusses.

Magic is just a tool it is neither white or black. It all depends on the user. If you do positive things with it then you well receive positive energy back if you do negative things with it then you get negative energy back. The different kinds of magic as I see them is God magic when a supernatural being is used to help with the spell; ceremonial magic is when only the energy of the practicer is used; green magic is when herbs and natural products are used in the spell. Different colors have different energy vibration and have different uses in magic. I do some candle magic and I use different colors depending on what I want to do. Black absorbs energy I use it when I want something like an illness to go away. White reflects so I use it to dispel negative energy like a psychic attack. It also purifies.

Real Magic by Bonewitts is a good book for a beginner.

What I meant was, all magik comes from the same place (your will and the universe). I understand there are different ways to use it, but I don't think they should be labeled "white" or "black" or whatever color you want. Its like all the different kinds of "psi" labels that people are creating. If you're trying to light something on fire using your mind (pyrokinesis) and your friend is trying to levitate something (telekinesis) you're both using your mind and concentrating your energy to make something happen using your mind. You're both doing the same thing, so there shouldn't be different labels for it. And I feel the same way about magik. It's all part of our one big universe and we should try to understand that and become one with the universe before casting spells on others or ourselves. I understand that you may have a differing opinion though and I respect that. Much love!

LOL why thank you that's very nice of you!! i'll check it out!

Well there is a division between pure mental magic and ritual magic. They can be blended as well. Most of the magic I have done before myself is exactly as you described it. Though rituals can be 'romantic' and in one sense all is left up to the powers that we want to be the agents of our magic but on the other hand rituals can help focus our own thoughts so we ourselves, our thoughts, emotions, and desires, are the agents of magic. Rituals still remains 'romantic' in either case. Either way the way you described this pure magic that comes from our own intentions, desires, and mental imagery it is quite beautiful in itself and accurate. I have never seen it described so simply while still saying so much.

I personally think this stuff is bogus anyway.

Tsk, tsk, take this from the Wiccan perspective: There are no "magick colors". Magick is magick. It's what you do with the magic that matters. White magic is typically non-invasive, healing, peaceful magick, whereas "black" magic is seen as evil and harmful. This is not always the case, in fact, it rarely ever is. Voodoo is a form of "dark or black" magick, but it's rarely, if ever, used to harm people. Yes, you learn how to hex people and harm them, but you have to learn both light and dark to fully understand either. In order to protect yourself from or break a hex, it helps to know how that hex was created and what it's purpose is. Green magick does not necessarily refer to "nature" magick either. Green magick can be kitchen magick, herbalism, druidry, and many other forms of practices and beliefs. These are just labels, and labels are for food, not religion.

Remember, "Light does not always equate to good, and darkness does not always equate to evil."

Darkness is the color of the Mother Goddess, and whiteness is the color of the Father God. Black does not mean "evil" and "white" does not mean good.

Yes, I believe in white magick. However, like people have already said, magick is magick, the only thing that makes it black, white, or any colour, for that matter, is the intention behind the magick; what you want it to do.
However, and I say this with the utmost respect, you may want to research how magick works a little bit more before you try using it, if you haven't already. Sadly, "The complete idiot's guide to Wicca and Witchcraft" is a great book for all of these matters. You could check that out, and even if you don't take any religious beliefs out of it, the basic facts about magick, spells, etc. with almost certainly be useful.
Good luck.

Green magic in some applications actually requires knowledge of herbs especially if administering them to others for actual medicinal and therapeutic purposes. Then again some of it has nothing to do with that but for spell casting.

I don't think you can change a leopard's spots..

There are different types of magic/k, but it all depends on how you use it. The magic/k is a tool. -comparison- A hammer is used to fix things, build things. But with evil intent it can be used to kill a person. It's all in how you use it.

You can when they are babies ehehe

How a Leopard Changes its Spots



Aye, and in some types if you do not shield yourself you can hurt your own self. Especially when projecting energy.

I was talking about grown up leopards..

What about Lions, Ligers, Liguars, Liards, Tigers, Tigons, Tiguars, Tigards, Jaguars, Jaglions, Jaggers, Jagupards, Leopards, Leopons, Doglas, or Leguars?

lol they all exist too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panthera_hybrid

sigh, maybe you miss my point.. hmm?
I don't think we can make something thats not good, good! Or so to speak.. we can't wrap something ugly up in pretty ribbons b/c it's still ugly on the inside.. ????? hmm?

I understand. It all comes from the same source no matter how it is presented. El Diablo.

I was just picking with ya.. anyways.. just to clarify for the young uns at home, if you know what I mean ? LOL

i think that all forms of magic are evil white or black they all come for the same place...
eccept natural gifts like physics and stuff

Magick isn't "evil" at all. It's just the conscious control over the subtle energies that permeate all living and non-living things. This video explains it quite well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF4DsggUcPc...feature=related

YES, I know it's from the Wiccan perspective, but it describes magick in a sensible way. People who practice magick are bound by the Threefold Law:
"Whatever intentions you cast out return to you threefold". This means if you do harmful magick, even more harmful things happen to you, and if you do positive things with magick, you are rewarded. Think of it as karma. Magick is NOT evil, though!! It also does not come from Satan. Energy permeates ALL matter. It keeps atoms together, and by changing and manipulating this energy you perform magick. There's no Satan involved at all. None. Zero. Zip. Zilch. Magick is like prayer only more proactive.

People who don't understand the subtle complexities of magick are truly closed minded. Coming from a catholic family, this is a truth I've noticed. I was lucky enough to have a mom that wanted me to make my own decisions. She's supported me the whole way, and she's even learned a few things from me. (then again my mom is like my best friend in most aspects...)I also agree with Lady's first statement about not all white is good and not all black is bad. Try to think of it as Yin and Yang. There's always a little of one in the other.

I hope I'm not diverging from the subject TOO much, but it's kinda like "world peace" think, if everyone got along, then it'd be just as chaotic, if not more, than society right now. in a world of love, then the words would lose meaning, just as complete chaos, would seem peaceful if that's all one is subjected to. (ok, I'll leave you all alone since newbies don't know what they're talking about...)

That threefold stuff is only for wiccans, and in no way has anything to do with a majority of magical systems. If there is a such thing as magic (I can't conclusively say one way or the other), then I can't imagine it having any kind of moral value attached to it. It's pretty ridiculous to even think that way. It would be like saying that electricity is evil, or that gravity is kind hearted and charitable.

P.S. It isn't magic that holds atoms together. It's strong nuclear, weak nuclear, and electrostatic forces.

I'm fairly certain that video stated that molecules were held together by electromagnetic energy, and that this energy is manipulated. Correct me if I'm wrong on this account? I know "magick" doesn't hold atoms together.

Well, electromagnetic energy keeps the electrons attached to the nucleus, and strong nuclear force, if I remember correctly, keeps the neutrons and protons together. He claims that electromagnetic energy that "holds the electrons and protons in place" is now called "psychic energy." It took a lot of effort to pay attention after that. He went on to babble about things like Higher Self and all that mumbo jumbo, but didn't really do anything to back himself up or give many examples of how these things are displayed in real life. I don't know. Maybe the guy is right, but he comes off as kind of flakey to me.

Eh, I'm not a Corelian (did I spell that right?) Wiccan, so I dunno. Maybe he is right, but I dunno. I'm an Eclectic, so I choose what I believe to be true in relation to religious ideas, but Corelians have a whole system and whatnot.

I heard you can easily slip into dark magic.

You've got to be kidding me.

how can you slip into something that you base upon your intentions? granted if you're not specific with your intentions, it could end up being negative, but that's where good self control comes in. you need to look within yourself and KNOW that you're not doing anything bad.

Mhmm. Very good point Nanankix. There's no direct line between "dark", "light", "green", "gray", or whatever color you want to label your magick. It's all about intention, like you said. I use the notion of "would I want someone to do this to me?" if I'm ever using a spell on another person, which I don't often do. If there's any doubt that what you're doing is truly "right", then it's probably not.

What of the intention for the greatest and highest good of all?

good and bad are two abstract themes, what is good in one persons perspective, may be bad in anothers... It's all based upon the morals one is implanted with from when they were VERY young.