Full Version: The Official Mothman Thread
Yeah, I liked the movie too as entertainment and a story. Nothing to do with the books, but not a terrible movie IMO. The "true" story is much more weird and fascinating though
QUOTE (Syntax @ Apr 30 2008, 11:34 PM) 
'Some' say? who are these 'some'? I have heard some rubbish in the mothman community but that theory is the worst of them all...
The idea that Mothman is linked to the Silver Bridge collapse is born purely out of pop culture.
No witnesses came forward at the time of the collapse to say they had seen Mothman on the bridge. Quite famously, it was Pin # 13 in the bridges support structure that gave way and caused the bridge to collapse due to the stress of the old bridge. Also note that the bridge was packed at Rush Hour when it collapsed, a bridge full of cars causes amazing stress on the structure that was not designed to handle so much traffic.
Another rumour to dispell is that the Mothman witnesses perished in the fatal bridge collapse, in fact no major witnesses were killed at all.
The idea that Mothman is linked to the Silver Bridge collapse is born purely out of pop culture.
No witnesses came forward at the time of the collapse to say they had seen Mothman on the bridge. Quite famously, it was Pin # 13 in the bridges support structure that gave way and caused the bridge to collapse due to the stress of the old bridge. Also note that the bridge was packed at Rush Hour when it collapsed, a bridge full of cars causes amazing stress on the structure that was not designed to handle so much traffic.
Another rumour to dispell is that the Mothman witnesses perished in the fatal bridge collapse, in fact no major witnesses were killed at all.
but building inspectors had looked over the bridge recently, and no problems were seen. secondly, people did see the mothman fly away from the bridge just after it colapsed. and lasty, the bridge had been under this kind of stress before and one of the the bridges suspension cables (the one that "broke") seemed to be chewed apart.
QUOTE (Pope Of The Paranormal @ Jul 14 2008, 06:17 AM)
but building inspectors had looked over the bridge recently, and no problems were seen. secondly, people did see the mothman fly away from the bridge just after it colapsed. and lasty, the bridge had been under this kind of stress before and one of the the bridges suspension cables (the one that "broke") seemed to be chewed apart.
I'm not too sure what those sources are, but they are incorrect. The cause for the disaster was actually discussed in detail in Gray Barker's book on the tragedy called 'The Silver Bridge'. It was built in 1928, and despite not being designed to carry the load it did on the night in question, further investigation found that one of the I-Bar support structures was cast incorrectly. The stress over the next 41 years of use caused what was called Stress Corrosion Cracking.
When it was built, the average car weighed only 1,500lb, by 1969 the average family car weighed over 4,000lb. On December 15 1969 the bridge was bumper to bumper.
Secondly, as you may have read above, the suspension cables were not the cause of the disaster. So your source is completely wrong, and I might hazard a guess at saying has never read any of the original source material of either The Mothman prophecies or The Sivler Bridge (both of which written only a few years after the disaster).
Lastly, there were no reports made of Mothman on the bridge by either the survivors or any of the hundreds of by standers. I would suggest that where ever you got your source material from was simply using that as a way to perpetuate the urban legend.
I am a firm believer in the bizzareness that occured in Point Pleasant from 1968 - 1969...however no evidence what so ever exists to suggest that the Mothman had anything to do with the disaster.
QUOTE (Jennie 1 @ Jul 6 2008, 05:55 PM)
Undeadskeptic,
I think Stephen King may have beaten you to it.
But if you write it I'll read it, I love zombie insanity!
I think Stephen King may have beaten you to it.
But if you write it I'll read it, I love zombie insanity!Has he? Which book's that?
don't take this wrong, but you always have people on here saying to be knowledgeable or an expert on many things, when simply the fact of the matter is they just read a few articles, news clippings, saw some TV shows on the discovery channel and watched crappy movies on the subject.
What exactly is it that makes you know so much on this subject?
I really didn't gain anything knew from what you said, it's basically everything I've herd many times over and over again, stuff that any person that is involved with Cryptozoology would know, or just simply watching a TV special could tell someone.
I'm just interested in the people behind these types of threads and what their credentials or studies have been.
I think that's a fair thing to ask when someone presents a thread like this.
What exactly is it that makes you know so much on this subject?
I really didn't gain anything knew from what you said, it's basically everything I've herd many times over and over again, stuff that any person that is involved with Cryptozoology would know, or just simply watching a TV special could tell someone.
I'm just interested in the people behind these types of threads and what their credentials or studies have been.
I think that's a fair thing to ask when someone presents a thread like this.
QUOTE (allie_shy @ Jul 14 2008, 04:06 PM)
don't take this wrong, but you always have people on here saying to be knowledgeable or an expert on many things, when simply the fact of the matter is they just read a few articles, news clippings, saw some TV shows on the discovery channel and watched crappy movies on the subject.
What exactly is it that makes you know so much on this subject?
I really didn't gain anything knew from what you said, it's basically everything I've herd many times over and over again, stuff that any person that is involved with Cryptozoology would know, or just simply watching a TV special could tell someone.
I'm just interested in the people behind these types of threads and what their credentials or studies have been.
I think that's a fair thing to ask when someone presents a thread like this.
What exactly is it that makes you know so much on this subject?
I really didn't gain anything knew from what you said, it's basically everything I've herd many times over and over again, stuff that any person that is involved with Cryptozoology would know, or just simply watching a TV special could tell someone.
I'm just interested in the people behind these types of threads and what their credentials or studies have been.
I think that's a fair thing to ask when someone presents a thread like this.
WOW! So much for Allie_Shy
QUOTE (allie_shy @ Jul 14 2008, 02:06 PM)
don't take this wrong, but you always have people on here saying to be knowledgeable or an expert on many things, when simply the fact of the matter is they just read a few articles, news clippings, saw some TV shows on the discovery channel and watched crappy movies on the subject.
What exactly is it that makes you know so much on this subject?
I really didn't gain anything knew from what you said, it's basically everything I've herd many times over and over again, stuff that any person that is involved with Cryptozoology would know, or just simply watching a TV special could tell someone.
I'm just interested in the people behind these types of threads and what their credentials or studies have been.
I think that's a fair thing to ask when someone presents a thread like this.
What exactly is it that makes you know so much on this subject?
I really didn't gain anything knew from what you said, it's basically everything I've herd many times over and over again, stuff that any person that is involved with Cryptozoology would know, or just simply watching a TV special could tell someone.
I'm just interested in the people behind these types of threads and what their credentials or studies have been.
I think that's a fair thing to ask when someone presents a thread like this.
I think it is a very fair question, and no I didn't take it wrongly.
If everything you have read here you already know, then this thread is not for you. The difference between this and other occurances is, that there is a large urban myth and stigma that follows Mothman that unfortunately needs to be dispelled.
Hence this thread. It is far from a chest beating exercise, more so a one stop thread where people can learn something about the subject without getting weighed down with the uneccesary baggage that comes along with the original story. 9-11 conspiracy theorists and those uneducated on the subject have perpetuated an urban myth that is false.
As far as credentials, I have spent many years collecting the original source material (at great expense - yet Derenberger's book on the subject sill eludes me), something that I have to do seeing as I live in a different country and was born 12 years after the event. Knowledge on the subject comes from passion for it, and is not fleeting or fly by night. Trust me when I say there is nothing here that was simply gleaned from a TV special.
In fact I have never seen a TV show on the subject that links the UFO and mothman phenomenon together, or the connection between Lanulos and Indrid Cold.
QUOTE (Undeadskeptic @ Jul 14 2008, 01:33 AM)
WOW! So much for Allie_Shy
Ahaha, aww I .. well I ...
I really am shy, I just I don't know really I tried to word it as nicely as possible and had no bad intentions i swear!
I just hear the same thing on the internet day after day after day that evvvvvveryones and expert, evvvvveryone is knowlegable on certain things and most the time EVERYTHING!
I thought it was a fair question, i mean a brain surgeon just can't go and say "oh I am knowledgeable on cutting into the brain and poking around in there" right?
I just want to know who I am getting supposed accurate information from.
Eh I'm sorry if i seemed pushy or something haha, I really am nice and I most the time keep my mouth shut around here.
QUOTE (allie_shy @ Jul 15 2008, 04:23 PM)
Ahaha, aww I .. well I ...
I really am shy, I just I don't know really I tried to word it as nicely as possible and had no bad intentions i swear!
I just hear the same thing on the internet day after day after day that evvvvvveryones and expert, evvvvveryone is knowlegable on certain things and most the time EVERYTHING!
I thought it was a fair question, i mean a brain surgeon just can't go and say "oh I am knowledgeable on cutting into the brain and poking around in there" right?
I just want to know who I am getting supposed accurate information from.
Eh I'm sorry if i seemed pushy or something haha, I really am nice and I most the time keep my mouth shut around here.
I really am shy, I just I don't know really I tried to word it as nicely as possible and had no bad intentions i swear!
I just hear the same thing on the internet day after day after day that evvvvvveryones and expert, evvvvveryone is knowlegable on certain things and most the time EVERYTHING!
I thought it was a fair question, i mean a brain surgeon just can't go and say "oh I am knowledgeable on cutting into the brain and poking around in there" right?
I just want to know who I am getting supposed accurate information from.
Eh I'm sorry if i seemed pushy or something haha, I really am nice and I most the time keep my mouth shut around here.
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