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SoulFire

very cool story ! ! ! thumbsup.gif

http://wanderling.tripod.com/la_ufo.html
Star Man
QUOTE (SoulFire @ May 1 2008, 09:47 AM) *


THE BATTLE OF LOS ANGELES, Foo Fighters......Many those ufo cases just causing by primitive space life
they have as much ability as flying saucer.
read this
http://ufo-spacelife.blogspot.com/2007/09/shape-of-ufo.html
PersonFromPorlock
I suspect they were just shooting at each others' shellbursts. Really weird stuff happens when guys get into combat for the first time.
Robbo
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weird stuff happens when guys get into combat for the first time.


I dunno if any of you have seen that 'marines film UFOs in Iraq' clip on YouTube...It's filmed through night vision.

Turned out to be flames from the oil fields on a foggy night, so they couldn't see the chimeny (spelling) stack, only the flames, which, through night vision, showed up as just bright blobs in the sky.
skyeagle409
QUOTE (PersonFromPorlock @ May 1 2008, 12:54 AM) *
I suspect they were just shooting at each others' shellbursts. Really weird stuff happens when guys get into combat for the first time.


Actually, the gunners were shooting at an object that was first detected about 120 miles over the ocean as it approached Los Angeles.


http://brumac.8k.com/BATTLEOFLA/BOLA1.html
ECC
I truly believe this event is unexplainable. UFO wink2.gif
Robbo
Well I imagine the exact details of that night aren't about to be released, perhaps they were testing a new super strong weather balloon!
Enigma wrapped in a puzzle
QUOTE (Robbo @ May 1 2008, 04:06 PM) *
Well I imagine the exact details of that night aren't about to be released, perhaps they were testing a new super strong weather balloon!



You think they would test a "superstrong weather balloon" over civilian area with live ammo being fired? I take it your joking but just wanted to be sure.
snuffypuffer
This was right at the beginning of WWII and the fear of the Japanese attacking the continental US was pretty high. They actually did send bombs this way aboard hot air balloons, I think they even managed to kill one person, but my knowledge on the subject is pretty fuzzy. Anyhow there's no clear explanation for what this thing was.
SoulFire
QUOTE (snuffypuffer @ May 1 2008, 08:07 PM) *
This was right at the beginning of WWII and the fear of the Japanese attacking the continental US was pretty high. They actually did send bombs this way aboard hot air balloons, I think they even managed to kill one person, but my knowledge on the subject is pretty fuzzy. Anyhow there's no clear explanation for what this thing was.


a bomb made it from japan to the US on a balloon???
The Silver Thong
QUOTE (SoulFire @ May 1 2008, 03:07 PM) *
a bomb made it from japan to the US on a balloon???


Yup they sure did but the ballons were made of paper but could carry small amounts of explosives 65 lbs approx. I really doubt a paper ballon could withstand anti aircraft fire wink2.gif


http://air-combat.suite101.com/article.cfm...n_bombs_of_wwii

There are lots of sources I just grabbed one quickly
outsider75
the Battle of L.A. has always been intriguing simply because whatever we were shooting at.....we did not shoot it down! it has as far as i know never been addressed by our government nor explained. now i'm not saying it was a alein craft ,but it is something that should be looked into.
icet925
I still think its part of a psychological war strategy/tactic from the Japanese to cause the Americans to panic and shift its army else where.

"Initially the target of the aerial barrage was thought to be an attacking force from Japan, but it was later suggested to be a lost weather balloon, a blimp, a Japanese fire balloon or psychological warfare technique, staged for the benefit of coastal industrial sites, or even an extraterrestrial aircraft. The true nature of the object or objects remains unknown."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_LA
icet925
QUOTE (The Silver Thong @ May 1 2008, 02:13 PM) *
Yup they sure did but the ballons were made of paper but could carry small amounts of explosives 65 lbs approx. I really doubt a paper ballon could withstand anti aircraft fire wink2.gif


http://air-combat.suite101.com/article.cfm...n_bombs_of_wwii

There are lots of sources I just grabbed one quickly


unless, they have horrible aiming. lol
just a side joke..
would be funny though
Syntax
I wish all threads were like this...

the story was well written, chronological, supported with primary and secondary evidence, and didn't conform to the 'pop culture' view of a true UFO experience.

excellent!
FireMoon
QUOTE (icet925 @ May 7 2008, 11:07 PM) *
I still think its part of a psychological war strategy/tactic from the Japanese to cause the Americans to panic and shift its army else where.

"Initially the target of the aerial barrage was thought to be an attacking force from Japan, but it was later suggested to be a lost weather balloon, a blimp, a Japanese fire balloon or psychological warfare technique, staged for the benefit of coastal industrial sites, or even an extraterrestrial aircraft. The true nature of the object or objects remains unknown."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_LA



I'm not sure how exactly it would have changed American military planning as it was originally developed to fight a trade war with Britain in the Atlantic. I don't see how drawing troops to a place you intend to invade yourself, really does much for your chances of success. As for them being Fugoos* sp.. That is even less likely as, AFAIK, they were not even released till later in the war. Plus the chances of several fugoos being released into the Jet Stream and all making it to LA at the same time are about none to zilch.

There is a story that one of the craft was brought down and crashed near an island not far from San Diego and was retrieved by the US navy. I have no idea to the veracity of the said tale but if you google it you should find a couple of sites that recount the tale. From what i remember an astronomer is involved in it as a witness. To be honest, i never really gave the story much credence but that recent hacker making the claim that the US Navy have the real dirt of UFOs , not the Air force or Army did pique my interest as it would give some small credence to the 1940s crash story.
DEBUNKER
If it was anything at all....I wish they would have shot it down. Imagine a mile wide alien spaceship crashing over LA. That would have been the evidence Im looking for...all the little green alien dudes running around... bounce.gif
747400
I suspect it was most probably a case of jittery trigger fingers, a feeling of "shoot first and ask questions later" among the AA gunners.

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I still think its part of a psychological war strategy/tactic from the Japanese

Or perhaps, since conspiracy theories are always fun, maybe it was a psychological war tactic on the part of the US govt. to remind the people about the threat that Japan posed ... ?


DEBUNKER
And the "spaceship" in the search lights could just be the smoke from the exploding nades...pareidolia
skyeagle409
QUOTE (DEBUNKER @ May 9 2008, 02:14 AM) *
And the "spaceship" in the search lights could just be the smoke from the exploding nades...pareidolia


Nope!

The craft was first tracked on radar 120 miles from Los Angeles and was not a smoke plume.
hazzard
QUOTE (skyeagle409 @ May 9 2008, 01:03 PM) *
Nope!

The craft was first tracked on radar 120 miles from Los Angeles and was not a smoke plume.


Link please.
skyeagle409
QUOTE (hazzard @ May 9 2008, 01:52 PM) *
Link please.


Here it is. Now, what does the timeline indicate?

It indicates that the craft began to slow down as it reached the Los Angeles area.

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Battle of Los Angeles, 1942

The first radar contact of an unidentified aircraft occurred at 1:44 a.m. on February 25 and was confirmed by two other radar. An object 120 miles off the coast was picked up at 2:00 a.m. and was "well-tracked" by radar to within three miles of Los Angeles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Los_Angeles
hazzard
Like I said before, still unexplained, but the battle of LA is one of my favorite UFO stories. However, even the acting commander of the anti-aircraft artillery brigade in the area testified that he had first been convinced that he had seen fifteen planes in the air, but had quickly decided that he was seeing smoke. So, again, maybe, maybe not...
Star Man
Even this day we still can see those thing up on the sky, air -force still can detect them with radar.
But they centainly are not Alien crafts-although they can fly slowly or faster than the army jets.
skyeagle409
QUOTE (hazzard @ May 9 2008, 03:14 PM) *
Like I said before, still unexplained, but the battle of LA is one of my favorite UFO stories. However, even the acting commander of the anti-aircraft artillery brigade in the area testified that he had first been convinced that he had seen fifteen planes in the air, but had quickly decided that he was seeing smoke. So, again, maybe, maybe not...


He could very well have been seeing smoke if he thought he was seeing all of those aircraft, but we still have the primary object that was first picked up on radar and if you do the math from the time it took to travel 120 miles, it was definitely going too fast to have been a smoke plume and then, the object slowed down after arriving over the LA area.
gadfly21
Now this is one of my favorite UFO sightings/reports ever.

Anybody seen the old archived CBS footage on Youtube? It's pretty friggin amazing! This thing came and hovered over LA right after Pearl Harbor, when everybody and their granny was on high alert. Its interesting Steven Speilberg didn't put it or any references into Close Encounters. lol...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjPow17IGro

It sure looked like the shells were bursting and hitting something in the old archived CBS footage. I makes you wonder whether other people out there might have their own old footage of it.


Seeing as this happened at the very beginning of WWII and none of the anti-aicraft artillery could hit it, it probably definitely ruffled some feathers in Washington and probably got the attention of many high level officials. FDR probably got a very terse breifing on it along with his military people and Uber science primeire of the time Dr. Vannevar Bush.

Dr. Vannevar Bush was the uber overseer for both the NACA (precursor for NASA) and well as the Manhattan Engineering District. Stanton Freidman may be embellishing on some topics but he did his homework/research on the MJ-12 book about the whos whos of that time period.

The "Battle of LA" in 1942 could well be why the military established a "Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit", and was ready to go when Roswell happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Phenomenon_Unit


skyeagle409
QUOTE (gadfly21 @ May 22 2008, 11:42 PM) *
Now this is one of my favorite UFO sightings/reports ever.

Anybody seen the old archived CBS footage on Youtube? It's pretty friggin amazing! This thing came and hovered over LA right after Pearl Harbor, when everybody and their granny was on high alert. Its interesting Steven Speilberg didn't put it or any references into Close Encounters. lol...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjPow17IGro

It sure looked like the shells were bursting and hitting something in the old archived CBS footage. I makes you wonder whether other people out there might have their own old footage of it.


Seeing as this happened at the very beginning of WWII and none of the anti-aicraft artillery could hit it, it probably definitely ruffled some feathers in Washington and probably got the attention of many high level officials. FDR probably got a very terse breifing on it along with his military people and Uber science primeire of the time Dr. Vannevar Bush.

Dr. Vannevar Bush was the uber overseer for both the NACA (precursor for NASA) and well as the Manhattan Engineering District. Stanton Freidman may be embellishing on some topics but he did his homework/research on the MJ-12 book about the whos whos of that time period.

The "Battle of LA" in 1942 could well be why the military established a "Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit", and was ready to go when Roswell happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Phenomenon_Unit


Thanks!!

I have also brought up the Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit on many occasions as well. The U.S. Army has now confirmed the past existence of its Interplanetary Phonomenon Unit.

So much information has been coming out into the open over the years in regards to the reality of the UFOs in question, and I am very delighted and expect the tend to continue right up to full disclosure.

The Disclosure Project revealed what has been known for years.
anarkhy
QUOTE (skyeagle409 @ May 23 2008, 02:07 AM) *
Thanks!!

I have also brought up the Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit on many occasions as well. The U.S. Army has now confirmed the past existence of its Interplanetary Phonomenon Unit.

So much information has been coming out into the open over the years in regards to the reality of the UFOs in question, and I am very delighted and expect the tend to continue right up to full disclosure.

The Disclosure Project revealed what has been known for years.



If that was a real alien craft, then its enough reason why they are keeping away from human contact, dont you think?

skyeagle409
QUOTE (anarkhy @ May 23 2008, 05:36 AM) *
If that was a real alien craft, then its enough reason why they are keeping away from human contact, dont you think?


I think the welcoming committee got carried away with their welcoming display.
DONTEATUS
skyeagle do you mean they may of shot it down and kept the peices? or we may never see the really good stuff? Like in Independance day?
Agent. Mulder
QUOTE (DONTEATUS @ May 23 2008, 08:29 PM) *
skyeagle do you mean they may of shot it down and kept the peices? or we may never see the really good stuff? Like in Independance day?


they didnt shoot it down though. it just kept going. nothing they did brought it down.
or they suck ass with that anti aircraft ammo, and dont know when to set it off.
anarkhy

What happened then? Did it go to space, disappeared or what?

Why no planes were sent to intercept the ufo?

skyeagle409
QUOTE (DONTEATUS @ May 23 2008, 08:29 PM) *
skyeagle do you mean they may of shot it down and kept the peices? or we may never see the really good stuff? Like in Independance day?


No!

What I find intriquing is that the ojbect slowed down as it neared the LA area.
Agent. Mulder
QUOTE (anarkhy @ May 23 2008, 10:05 PM) *
What happened then? Did it go to space, disappeared or what?

Why no planes were sent to intercept the ufo?


no planes were scrambled. they just tried to blast the hell outa it from below. apparenlty it did nothing at all.
it kept going i believe out to sea or something i thought. i forget
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