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Dragon Seeker
What do you think of it?

do you think its real or was real?

or just a mythalogical creature

also if you have good pics of Phoenixes please don't hesitate to post them
Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (Dragon Seeker @ Apr 30 2008, 09:21 PM) *
What do you think of it?

do you think its real or was real?

or just a mythalogical creature

also if you have good pics of Phoenixes please don't hesitate to post them


I would have to say that the phoenix might have been based on a colorful bird, like the bird of paradise, the peacock, c*** of the rock (yes, that's a real bird), and others. There's only supposed to be one phoenix alive at a time, according to legend, so I doubt it would be easy to find if there was one.

Pics:
http://www.qc16.dial.pipex.com/Phoenix%20logo.gif
http://hpsdr.org/wiki/images/f/fb/Phoenix_bird.jpg
http://www.crystalinks.com/phoenix.gif
http://www.cuttingedge.org/Phoenix_Bird_Fire2.jpg
http://www.eaudrey.com/myth/images/phoenix.gif
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...en_Bestiary.jpg


Wiki Article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_(mythology)

Other articles about the phoenix myth:
http://phoenix.gov/birdesig.html
http://www.mythicalrealm.com/creatures/phoenix.html
http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/grecoro...phoenixbird.htm
http://birds.suite101.com/article.cfm/phoe..._of_immortality

This one was just funny:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1603.cfm
The original bird for the united states was supposed to be the turkey, not the phoenix. The phoenix is originally from Arabia, not Egypt (there are two different kinds, the Benu from Egypt, and the traditional phoenix and the traditional phoenix came from Arabia), and Egyptian religions aren't even Satanic. This website is just sad, sad, and more sad, but it has good pictures, and if you want to laugh go ahead and look at it. :]

swiftpaw fatfox
QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ May 1 2008, 12:42 AM) *
This one was just funny:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1603.cfm
The original bird for the united states was supposed to be the turkey, not the phoenix. The phoenix is originally from Arabia, not Egypt (there are two different kinds, the Benu from Egypt, and the traditional phoenix and the traditional phoenix came from Arabia), and Egyptian religions aren't even Satanic. This website is just sad, sad, and more sad, but it has good pictures, and if you want to laugh go ahead and look at it. :]


You are right, that is sad. Unfortunately many people don't do their research and some may just be beised.
Moro
I will have to say The Phoenix is more than likely a legend past down through history.

Very awesome looking bird though.


Here are a few of my favorite pics. of the Phoenix...


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Moro
Ravens and Crows have been known to sit over a hot surface, such as the dying embers of a fire, and spread out their wings. Perhaps they do it for the same reason we sit in a sauna - they just enjoy the heat - or perhaps they use the intense heat to encourage feather mites to find a different home.

However, if a bird such as a large raven sits on the embers of a fire, and for some reason chooses to flap its wings (maybe as a way to cool off, or maybe because it's ready to take to the air) then it could stir the fire to life again. The sudden resurgence of flames around it would almost certainly cause the bird to take off.

And voila - you have a bird rising from the midst of flames and ashes.
LightningMunk
heres the only phoenix i want tongue.gif
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Incorrigible1
QUOTE (Moro Bumbleroot @ May 1 2008, 12:13 AM) *
Ravens and Crows have been known to sit over a hot surface, such as the dying embers of a fire, and spread out their wings.

I've not heard of this behavior. Can you provide any source? Thanks.
bogcreeper
Could have been a basic bioplasmic life form. I could see how the primitaves could have put -2 and -2 together ... uh look fire bird!!!
iain c
QUOTE (LightningMunk @ May 1 2008, 05:19 AM) *
heres the only phoenix i want tongue.gif
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SAD yes.gif
HAJiME
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Nucular
Tacitus describes the legend of the phoenix, and some of its sightings, in his Annals, c.109 CE:

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During the consulship of Paulus Fabius and Lucius Vitellius, the bird called the phoenix, after a long succession of ages, appeared in Egypt and furnished the most learned men of that country and of Greece with abundant matter for the discussion of the marvellous phenomenon. It is my wish to make known all on which they agree with several things, questionable enough indeed, but not too absurd to be noticed.

That it is a creature sacred to the sun, differing from all other birds in its beak and in the tints of its plumage, is held unanimously by those who have described its nature. As to the number of years it lives, there are various accounts. The general tradition says five hundred years. Some maintain that it is seen at intervals of fourteen hundred and sixty-one years, and that the former birds flew into the city called Heliopolis successively in the reigns of Sesostris, Amasis, and Ptolemy, the third king of the Macedonian dynasty, with a multitude of companion birds marvelling at the novelty of the appearance. But all antiquity is of course obscure. From Ptolemy to Tiberius was a period of less than five hundred years. Consequently some have supposed that this was a spurious phoenix, not from the regions of Arabia, and with none of the instincts which ancient tradition has attributed to the bird. For when the number of years is completed and death is near, the phoenix, it is said, builds a nest in the land of its birth and infuses into it a germ of life from which an offspring arises, whose first care, when fledged, is to bury its father. This is not rashly done, but taking up a load of myrrh and having tried its strength by a long flight, as soon as it is equal to the burden and to the journey, it carries its father's body, bears it to the altar of the Sun, and leaves it to the flames. All this is full of doubt and legendary exaggeration. Still, there is no question that the bird is occasionally seen in Egypt.
iain c
QUOTE (HAJiME @ May 1 2008, 01:00 PM) *
linked-image

LOL its a duck escaping from a chinese restaurant
HAJiME
Hahahahaa, omg so it is.
Dragon Seeker
QUOTE (HAJiME @ May 1 2008, 01:32 PM) *
Hahahahaa, omg so it is.



Kids shows much?

linked-image

its a good pic dont you think?
Moro
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ May 1 2008, 08:47 AM) *
I've not heard of this behavior. Can you provide any source? Thanks.

Well, after reading more into it, it just seems to be a part of the phoenix legend. But, I think
I will ask a wildlife bird behaviorist, and see what they have to say about it.

From what I have read though, it seems as perhaps they do it for the same reason we sit in a sauna,
they just enjoy the heat, or perhaps they use the intense heat to encourage feather mites to find a different home.
Otterclaw
The idea of a pheonix is cool (If you're looking for him, good luck, word tells me he's left Hogwarts after Dumbledore died) and I would love for one to be real, but I highly doubt that's true. I wonder where the original legend started from. The crow/raven with it's wings open a fire is interesting, but I wonder if that would truely be enough to fool someone.
Dragon Seeker
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ May 1 2008, 05:43 PM) *
The idea of a pheonix is cool (If you're looking for him, good luck, word tells me he's left Hogwarts after Dumbledore died) and I would love for one to be real, but I highly doubt that's true. I wonder where the original legend started from. The crow/raven with it's wings open a fire is interesting, but I wonder if that would truely be enough to fool someone.


LOL!!!

seriously i dont think its an actual crypid i just wanted to know some of the myths and legands that surround one of my favorite Mythalogical creature
unit
reincarnation..

it's a metaphor for a human..

the human dies and rises again..
Nucular
QUOTE (unit @ May 2 2008, 06:44 AM) *
reincarnation..

it's a metaphor for a human..

the human dies and rises again..

I've heard that said, but never heard any evidence. Is the phoenix associated with reincarnation legends, or more common in cultures holding that belief? As a metaphor for a life after death position it seems more similar to bodily resurrection than reincarnation.
Dragon Seeker
QUOTE (Nucular @ May 2 2008, 02:06 PM) *
I've heard that said, but never heard any evidence. Is the phoenix associated with reincarnation legends, or more common in cultures holding that belief? As a metaphor for a life after death position it seems more similar to bodily resurrection than reincarnation.



Well you both make a good point, are there any others who know of some myths and legands that surround the Phoenix?
Dragon Seeker
More pics anybody?

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a Phoenix of modern day
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AND I FINALLY FOUND THE WEBSITE!!!!!!!

CLICK HERE

also on the website i found this poem

Click here for the poem
Otterclaw
I'm searching for pictures, hold on. All these pictures are too big to upload. Rawr...
Dragon Seeker
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ May 4 2008, 07:00 PM) *
I'm searching for pictures, hold on. All these pictures are too big to upload. Rawr...



so then why not shrink them down a bit?
The Invaluable Darkness
Here's a good picture I randomly found

linked-image
Otterclaw
Wow, there arn't many pheonix photos.
Dragon Seeker
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ May 4 2008, 10:57 PM) *
Wow, there arn't many pheonix photos.



Tis called Yahoo.ca

and google.ca

and possibly msn.com
capoeiranger
Ikki, the Phoenix Saint is my favorite Saint in Saint Seiya series.
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There's also Suzaku, the Vermilion Bird In Chinese/Korean/Japanese mythology.
Dragon Seeker
thanks for the wikapeda link dude original.gif
Otterclaw
QUOTE (Dragon Seeker @ May 4 2008, 07:37 PM) *
Tis called Yahoo.ca

and google.ca

and possibly msn.com

Yes, I know, but there arn't as many as most pictures. Normally I always get three hundred pages but I'm only getting a couple and a lot of them are of tattoos...blink.gif
Dragon Seeker
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ May 6 2008, 11:19 PM) *
Yes, I know, but there arn't as many as most pictures. Normally I always get three hundred pages but I'm only getting a couple and a lot of them are of tattoos...blink.gif



Well, when was the last time you checked? or even the securty settings on the search engine

things change allot with time, i can find plenty of them
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