Front Page Headline, Brooklyn Daily Eagle, December 8th, 1901

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Full Article, featuring conspiracy and living Mammoths too: Link

Personally, I doubt the authenticity of this story, it is entertaining but the image of therapods as 'Kangaroo-like' is old and incorrect. Furthermore, what happened to the head and skeleton? I am going to contact the Smithsonian tonight in regards to the skeleton they supposedly got, but wherever the head went remains a mystery.

Nice find. It appears to be just another "tall tale" that the papers of the time were fond of printing however.

As for contacting the Smithsonian I doubt you'll have much luck in verifying this story. A non-fossilized tyrannosaur skull found just over a hundred years ago would have provided a huge leap for paleontology, yet no such great advancement has ever taken place.

Thank you!

I could not find an EMail adress to the smithsonian though, and I live in NZ so visiting it would be more than a little day trip

Good article but i believe it is fake and old, and if you ever find anymore about it from the smithsonian, you should post it.
interesting indeed though

I wonder if this article was published on April 1st prehaps?

I think due to the fact that a viable population would be very obvious and Florida is quite close to the K-T meteor Chicxulub impact point it can be ruled out completely.

Link to a blog post from Feb '07 looking at it in more detail.

Also, contact details for the Smithsonian.

Thank you Nucular! I hugely recommend that link, very interesting.

Yes, very interesting for sure. Still, the OP's clippings about the "T-Rex-Alike" was hardly discussed at all in the blog link from Nucular. The Mammoths were the main topic of discussion really from the anonymous tipster...also interesting, but the T-Rex story is weird and unexplained. The later stuff in the blog thing were about other creatures.

Where did you find those clippings?

Test Subject; I found these extracts from Cryptomundo.com.

Nonsense. If the clipping is actually authentic, (which I doubt), this is just another "joke" story like the Pterodactyl in arizona shot by cowboys and the airship in Texas.

People today do not seem to realise that our ancestors had a sense of humor and spun tall tales.

100 years ago dinosaur bones were highly sought after. A "fresh" dinosaur head would be as big a sensation then as it would be today, and would have made the papers all over the world.

Who are you and what have you done with DC?

The same DC, but there is a big difference between a 19th century yarn and the worldwide belief in dragons. When a contemporary historian reported that a saxon king was eaten by a dragon, it would be an easy thing to refute if nobody believed it happened. And why were bone burners hired to keep dragons away if it was all a joke to them? People seriosly believed they existed and seeing them seems to have been part of the way of life for centuries, sometimes hardly worthy of note.

I know there can be no T-Rexes in Florida. The dinosaurs are gone. But native americans believed in intelligent, large demon monsters often given reptilian attributes. Giant reptiles able to elude man (like so many cryptid tales) can only be creatures of great intelligence exactly as our ancestors considered dragons.

There is 100% as much proof T-Rexes live in Florida as there is for the existence of any dragon.

Oh, you and your scepticism, DC

The clipping (if not the content) is authentic, and the full, actually quite long, article can be downloaded from the Brooklyn Daily Eagle's Archive site (Sunday, December 8th 1901, p.40).

Once again,

Very, very interesting. Probably a hoax, but interesting all the same. I really, really, wish that out of the hundreds of cryptids, that once we could get solid proof for one. I am sick of always coming back with more questions and all the crap cryptozoologists get sometimes.


But as for dinosaurs living in the Everglades...no. Dinosaurs are not the geniuses of the animal kingdom, and a couple roaming around would have been spotted, no doubt about that. Especially something as huge and as gigantic as a T-Rex. The Everglades is a major tourist attraction, and people are forgetting there are constantly people there and something that huge and rare...well, just it's roar alone would have been heard. Unless we are talking about secret underground tunnels leading to the hidden valley of the dinosaurs, and one large lone dino escaped and decided to take a joy ride to the Everglades, well, you get my point. If that is true (highly, highly unlikely) it is a pity they shot it. If that thing was trying to eat me, yes, I would shoot it, but we can learn so much more from a live T-rex then a dead specimen.

I've found it!
info@si.edu

Isn't that the plot to the next made for SciFi movie?

Almost, only the T-Rex is in Mexico and I will tell you the story before seeing it.

The T-Rex will eat some people but in the end the Conquistadors will kill the T-Rex, using gunpower in some way becuase morons like explosions.

This is the same plot as almost EVERY Sci Fi movie. The are also written by morons.

Last night they blew up nessie. Need I say more?

NOOOOOoooooooo......... Nessie!

Hahaha, that was a hilarious post DC. And probably the most truthful thing you've ever said on here

Also you might want to look at the date of that 1901

also

I think its just another tall tale told

just because people like watching things blow up doesnt mean they arent smart (it just means there SPECIAL lmao)

Film producers know that there are enough stupid people to watch the dumbest movies so long is there are plenty of monsters, explosions and fireballs.

cars seldom explode in real life, but they ALWAYS do in B movies.

I am always truthful. That is why some of the things I say seem so extraordinary. Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction, and particularly so concerning the truth about dragons.

Or, sometimes people have trouble discerning fantasy from reality.

I thought it pretty common knowledge here on the boards that any News paper clipping from about 1850 to 1910 is suspect. They used to write Enquirer style articles all the time in order to ramp up their distrobution and get more readers. Pure Sensationalism.

You can find articles on Lost Treasures, Burial Mounds, Giant Bones and Dinosaurs from this time period that say all kinds of things, but no other record can ever be found of the said event.

Exactly why i think its a houx

Well, yeah, but to be fair the biggest alarm bell is the report of a living dinosaur in recent times, rather than the date of the clipping

But I do think any remarkable claim like this, from any date, should be given as fair a hearing and thorough investigation as possible, if only to rule it out and prevent it being touted by anyone as an 'inconvenient truth', so to speak. The YECs live on this stuff, so it's almost certain to come up again now it's been rediscovered and pasted over the net.

But yes, you're right about the nature of many of these older newspaper clippings - a search of the same newspaper's archive site I linked to earlier brings up all sorts of sea-serpents and related silliness.

It would be unfair to term many sea serpent sighitns as "silly". Some of the most significant ones even has scientists as witnesses who knew the beast could be no fish or squid.

lol!

QUOTE (Undeadskeptic @ May 1 2008, 10:09 AM)






No way! You don't think?!

Oh and everyone quite the B-Movie bashing NOW! Who cares if a movie is unrealistic, as long as its entertaining. And I mean seriously, you people say the Movies are unrealistic, yet here we r arguing the existence of the likes of Bigfoot and Dragons, and numerous other ridiculous things.

Bigfoot isn't ridiculous.

I love the headlines from that era. You could have an entire forum dedicated to the fanciful stories from back then.

I don't want my thread to turn into some crummy bigfoot discussion, so I'll be breif - A very large Hominid living in an area visited daily by hunters, hikers, and many different wildlife authourities, yet with no reliable sightings or scraps of evidence that are acknowledged by an actual scientest as proof of the creatures existence? Thats how you spell Urban Legend.

But please, lets not make tis a Bigfoot thread, its a Dino thread.




I wish there was a forum like that.

Exactly, there is FAR more evidence for large reptilian crytpids hding in deep bodies of water that once were the root of world wide stories of the creatures living in the time of man, though regularly seen in some of the more crowded areas where they lurk. But it was obvious in this case that the creature they claimed to kill was a T-Rex, which made the story obvious nonsense.

No there isn't. There is no reliable evidence what so ever.

Versus dragons as living creatures that you think you have a relationship with. Yeah, your ideas sound more realistic.

Yes, I have noticed the trend: giant monster, everyone acts like idiots, heor kills monster by some absurd theatrical device.
I wonder if these are written in bulk via simple computer programs: insert random monster, insert place, insert hero name, insert random plot device, etc.
I know it's a bit off topic, but please help:
Are there any decent monster movies, where the entire plot is not a modern-day variant of "muscle-head kill big-thing"?

You forgot Boobs. There needs to be plenty of Boobs.

If it will shut up the B-Movie bashers:

The Host is a great monster flick, focusing more on the drama of the human story. Bring a tissue.

King Kong (Jackson Remake)

Feast is a groovy film, which, despite wearing its B-Movie core proudly on its sleeve, is exciting and unpredictable. Plenty of gore.

Cloverfield is a fantastic take on the giant monster genre.

The Descent is terrifying and hints at being quite deep too.

Tremors Is a decent movie about giant worms, but mostly comedy rather than serious action.

Dog Soilders is a cool werewolf movie.

and last but not lest...

Pans Labyrinth, which, whilst not strictly or in most ways considered a monster movie features incredibly brutal human monsters amongst the most surreal, amazing fantasy beasts you'll ever see in a film. VERY depressing though.

Are you kidding me? Starting with the Host, this was better made, but it was still the predictable, "family accomplishes its revenge against the monster" cliche' as any B-Move. Funny that with the entire korean defense force after the monster, the 'hero family' finds and kills it. Totally dumb and implausible.

There is of course, and these were the Jurassic Park Films. And unlike the typical "heroe kills the monster" Sci Fi channel offal, these were International blockbusters, and the franchise is still going strong. Although it was far from perfects, with real scientists as technical advisors, it presented these prehistoric carnivores as the formidible, consumate predators that had to be, and showed how helpless man really is without his modern technology.

By realistically depicting large theropod dinosuars as fast, agile predators, it also shown how stupid it is to imagine human heroes with only iron age weapons killing the far more formidable dragons of legend.

B there was actually one sci fi channel flick that was fairly decent, and quite unpredictable, where the giant reptilian monster actually lives, and wins! I think it was called serpent king, and after the usual carnage of these type of films, instead of killing the multi-headed hydra like monster, the heroine seems to become its new high priestess at the end! There was another with a similar name that was pure predictable monster slaying rubbish however.

lol

For a creature with tremendous size would requeire tremendous energy-foodsource. if there was a creature of such propotion and in has survived from pre-history as a brood of its kin, then it would be the alpha predator of the area. it would require a large food supply, the area couldnt possible support its needs. its perfectly imposible.

there is nothing wrong with beleiving something, thats his stand. beleif is what fires your passion. as long as its not harming anyone.