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Yorgmiester
QUOTE (euthanasia @ May 28 2008, 01:15 PM) *
we were talking about if you are at sea

i don't know about you, but i dont want to boil something in my raft that would melt it...

That's why you would be on a boat thumbsup.gif
NeoGenesis
I would also pick a pure hand made Katana for hand to hand combat. ph34r.gif

Hell those fast zombies can come,I will be ready for them wink2.gif

If Katana gets blunt.I will then resort to using the back end of my M4 w00t.gif

Yorgmiester
Melee combat vs. a zombie hoard will result in you dying(unless you're chuck norris or master cheif).
Crovus v2.0
FYI... the M4 is NOT an awesome weapon. It jams easy. Butt stroking would be foolish as it has a rather thin plastic butt stock. It's also only got a 3 round burst (though that is customizable to a full auto <if you know what you're doing>) And it's meant more for a long range (150-300 meters).

Now the MP5 would be a good weapon. More reliable, full auto, and designed for close-quarters. You would definitely prefer to have it or a many-round shotgun (like the SPAS-12 wink2.gif) if you were going through a building hunting out zombies.

As for going out and living on a boat in the ocean... That just sounds like a horrible idea. For all you know the fish may have become zombie-like as well, and definitely not fit for eating. And what happens if a hurricane comes? Then you're really screwed. Even if you do use the evaporated water technique for sustenance (which by the way... you can even use your own urine to do tongue.gif You just won't get much water out of it.)

Best bet... fortify a lot of people in a multi-floored building. Preferably of some form of metal outside with minimal windows. Create something like an airlock entry (2 sets of doors with a small room) with thin slits in the side walls. If someone comes in infected, or a zombie makes it through the first door... incinerate him with flamethrowers from the slits. Clean, quick, and no worries about disease from the dead wink2.gif

In each of the rooms that do have windows, board and bar them to prevent access and keep a 2 man team safeguarding them at all times. The 2 can keep each other awake and should a break in occur, 1 can stand watch on it while the other runs for a QRF that's set up (Quick Reaction Force). Within a matter of minutes the room is loaded with plenty of ammunition to take em out.

Once the place is fortified and set up, you can have people go into the city with an escort and gather up dirt and plant seed and turn the roof of the place into a makeshift farm, and with the right tools/ingenuity, a green house. Supplying the place with an unlimited supply of food.

If you do this in a highly populated area with lots of building the same height, you can even expand and create rooftop bridges connecting multiple 'farms' just by blocking off the access points to the other buildings.

For the tactical sense, never fire on a zombie you don't have to kill. Eventually whatever source it is that they're required to have to survive must surely die out, so they'll either end up eating themselves to extinction or just drop dead all together. So why waste precious ammunition on something that's going to die anyway?

Once they do finally all drop dead, clean up the city by incinerating the corpses to avoid the spread of disease and thoroughly cleanse the area.

Humanity is officially restored tongue.gif


Just my little thought on things tongue.gif
-C
Yorgmiester
QUOTE (Crovus v2.0 @ Jun 2 2008, 01:13 AM) *
FYI... the M4 is NOT an awesome weapon. It jams easy. Butt stroking would be foolish as it has a rather thin plastic butt stock. It's also only got a 3 round burst (though that is customizable to a full auto <if you know what you're doing>) And it's meant more for a long range (150-300 meters).

Now the MP5 would be a good weapon. More reliable, full auto, and designed for close-quarters. You would definitely prefer to have it or a many-round shotgun (like the SPAS-12 wink2.gif) if you were going through a building hunting out zombies.

As for going out and living on a boat in the ocean... That just sounds like a horrible idea. For all you know the fish may have become zombie-like as well, and definitely not fit for eating. And what happens if a hurricane comes? Then you're really screwed. Even if you do use the evaporated water technique for sustenance (which by the way... you can even use your own urine to do tongue.gif You just won't get much water out of it.)

Best bet... fortify a lot of people in a multi-floored building. Preferably of some form of metal outside with minimal windows. Create something like an airlock entry (2 sets of doors with a small room) with thin slits in the side walls. If someone comes in infected, or a zombie makes it through the first door... incinerate him with flamethrowers from the slits. Clean, quick, and no worries about disease from the dead wink2.gif

In each of the rooms that do have windows, board and bar them to prevent access and keep a 2 man team safeguarding them at all times. The 2 can keep each other awake and should a break in occur, 1 can stand watch on it while the other runs for a QRF that's set up (Quick Reaction Force). Within a matter of minutes the room is loaded with plenty of ammunition to take em out.

Once the place is fortified and set up, you can have people go into the city with an escort and gather up dirt and plant seed and turn the roof of the place into a makeshift farm, and with the right tools/ingenuity, a green house. Supplying the place with an unlimited supply of food.

If you do this in a highly populated area with lots of building the same height, you can even expand and create rooftop bridges connecting multiple 'farms' just by blocking off the access points to the other buildings.

For the tactical sense, never fire on a zombie you don't have to kill. Eventually whatever source it is that they're required to have to survive must surely die out, so they'll either end up eating themselves to extinction or just drop dead all together. So why waste precious ammunition on something that's going to die anyway?

Once they do finally all drop dead, clean up the city by incinerating the corpses to avoid the spread of disease and thoroughly cleanse the area.

Humanity is officially restored tongue.gif


Just my little thought on things tongue.gif
-C

Sounds like a solid plan but i still think bunkering is a very bad idea.You have no idea how many zombies will attack once.Could be 3,could be 300.If a breach is made they will come swarming in,and that's the absolute worst-case scenario.In the movies the hero bravely wards off hundreds of zombies with a shotgun and a swiss army knife in a tiny little coat-closet for three days before finally being rescued by his comrades.In real life he would be dead within the hour.Have you ever been tackled by 3 or more people intent on holding you down and plucking your leg hairs out???Euph has.He knows.Imagine that but about a hundred times more and this time they have no inhibitions,no reason to stay alive,and they have an over-poweringly insane craving for your flesh.And if they bite you once,just once,you're infected.It's over.So yea,even with a shotgun,grenades,chainsaw,and chuck norris,it's a very very very bad idea.

Boat is also a bad idea.I agree with that.
Ausaria
My roommate keeps a crowbar for this very reason.
NeoGenesis
QUOTE (Yorgmiester @ Jun 2 2008, 12:02 AM) *
Melee combat vs. a zombie hoard will result in you dying(unless you're chuck norris or master cheif).


Yes you are right there Yorgmeister I agree on that. yes.gif

Zombie hordes.Hell I would prefer to back away than to just bravely go in trying to be a hero.

Forgot to put in if you are alone some how with only one zombie still trying to come after you than I will try by using melee attack on it.

All that sayd a zombie infestation would be a horrifying situation.Reason they are unpredictable.
Yorgmiester
QUOTE (NeoGenesis @ Jun 2 2008, 09:41 AM) *
Yes you are right there Yorgmeister I agree on that. yes.gif

Zombie hordes.Hell I would prefer to back away than to just bravely go in trying to be a hero.

Forgot to put in if you are alone some how with only one zombie still trying to come after you than I will try by using melee attack on it.

All that sayd a zombie infestation would be a horrifying situation.Reason they are unpredictable.

I agree you vs. only one zombie use melee.No use wasting ammo when you can take it out with a whack to the head.

But against a hoard,RUN.Run with a barrel of little kids you can drop in your path to slow the zombies down tongue.gif
euthanasia
so i think that it's fair to say that the most fun way to do it is with a chinsaw.
Phase 3
QUOTE (euthanasia @ May 28 2008, 01:29 PM) *
survivorman

F that Id get Bear Grylls and see if I could start the first Zombie survival show called Men vs. Zombies
Yorgmiester
QUOTE (euthanasia @ Jun 3 2008, 02:07 PM) *
so i think that it's fair to say that the most fun way to do it is with a chinsaw.

Maybe for the 10 minutes you survive tongue.gif
euthanasia
1, but it will still be fun
not like you'd be able to hide 4ever...
might as well have fun fighting
Crovus v2.0
A chainsaw's only fun for as long as it has fuel and the chain doesn't decide to skip track...


As for my fortress, you contain any breach that comes. Note the front door idea I mentioned... Now do something remotely similar with any other potential access points. Also add an escape route via the roof to roof setup. But even so, to breach such a small area would still be a bit difficult for the zombies still.

Think about this... Zombies manage to break a man-sized hole in a wall, or through a boarded up window. You've got 1 guy poppin shots at them to keep them at bay until backup arrives. When they do they're trading off who shoots so that there's no break where all of a sudden everyone has to reload. After so many dead zombies, there's a zombie wall keeping them out. It doesn't matter how many zombies are outside their strength can only get them so far and they'll eventually make a wall of bodies that they can't climb/crawl through. Once this breach is contained you get someone up on the rooftops to lure the hoard that's outside away from the break in the wall. Once they're clear enough you can have a team clear out the dead and fix the break in the wall.

But as I stated in my last post, a metal building is prefered. That way you can weld more metal over the windows, making a windowless wall. Make it a double layer, and there's pretty much no hope of zombies breaching anything.

Another recommendation: Mirrors for light. Just like in the ancient Egyptian days, use mirrors and the sunlight from upstairs to light up the fortress. Saves the need for lanterns/torches once you run out of battery power for flashlights.

There's all kinds of other things you can come up with to compensate for power-operated items. Just always be sure to plan ahead for for something that you're relying on to run out. Like fuel to power chainsaws tongue.gif



Any other questions?
-C
dif world
we turn into zombies when they bite us, yes?

So, the best decision would be to bite the zombies, turning them to humans
Yorgmiester
QUOTE (dif world @ Jun 4 2008, 10:55 AM) *
we turn into zombies when they bite us, yes?

So, the best decision would be to bite the zombies, turning them to humans

laugh.gif
that made me laugh so hard man.Thank you i needed that grin2.gif

Crovus's fortress is a very good idea,very well planned,and if all went well,it would work.The only problem with it is that if something went wrong,say,you weren't able to get all the holes patched up in time,then you'd have a serious problem on your hands.A rooftop escape route would get you out of the building,yes,but it would just take you to another building.For that building to be safe you would have to patch that one up to.And the next one.And the next one.No matter how safe from the zombies you appear to be,you are still trapped in a building in a city full of zombies.If there was a breach,if something went wrong,for some reason,and they got it,then you would be in alot of danger.I'd rather not take that risk.

So i would run.And,yes,euph,you could hide 4ever.The key is to keep moving.You don't stay in one spot,you keep moving around,preferably in a northerly direction,so it gets colder.And you stay away from cities,towns,and people(zombies) at all costs.Even if it means taking a 4 month detour.I would rather survive the zombie outbreak than have fun with a chainsaw for 10 minutes then getting eaten alive wink2.gif
euthanasia
oh, wow....
i can think of ALOT of things that can make you laugh...
Plainbob13
Armour! Plate or chain mail. They cant bite through steel. Just a thought.
euthanasia
or we could just throw ur mum in the street and they'd all run away
Plainbob13
QUOTE (euthanasia @ Jun 4 2008, 12:41 PM) *
or we could just throw ur mum in the street and they'd all run away


Great Idea! My mom is a bad butt.
Yorgmiester
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Jun 4 2008, 06:12 PM) *
Armour! Plate or chain mail. They cant bite through steel. Just a thought.

It would also hamper your mobility if you had to run,or climb,and they would still be able to surround you,swarm you,and bring you down under a gigantic mass of rotting flesh bent on your destruction.It wouldn't do much besides slow the process.

And yes,many things make me laugh.I consider it a good thing happy.gif
Eric_15
I'd stand in the inside of a ring of larva(on a rock of course) and then they have to cross the larva.
euthanasia
how would you get food?
--Mandalore--
7.62mm, M134 A.K.A. MINIGUN

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Mounted on top of a hummer, with plenty of ammo. Oh yeah.....

Mwahahahaha!!!!!
Plainbob13
QUOTE (Eric_15 @ Jun 5 2008, 03:38 PM) *
I'd stand in the inside of a ring of larva(on a rock of course) and then they have to cross the larva.


What type of larva? How would baby bugs stop zombies?
NeoGenesis
QUOTE (Mandalore23 @ Jun 6 2008, 12:52 AM) *
7.62mm, M134 A.K.A. MINIGUN

linked-image


Mounted on top of a hummer, with plenty of ammo. Oh yeah.....

Mwahahahaha!!!!!


Would be nice to use that for some time I have seen the amount of fire that one of those can lay down on a area.hehe Street cleaner at your service w00t.gif .

Now for the problem.Mandalore23 I hope you have read about the amount of ammo that gun of yours consume in a minute.And yes you guessed it 2000 ROUNDS per minute.

So say for a hour of EXTREMELY nice fun you would need about 120 000 rounds of ammo try to stick that into a hummer.But I got to hand it to you the idea is HARD CORE MAN thumbsup.gif .
Yorgmiester
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Jun 6 2008, 07:30 PM) *
What type of larva? How would baby bugs stop zombies?

Rofl I'm asking the same question.Maybe the baby bugs would eat the zombies???Of course if they weer capable of eating the zombies then they would eat you...
Plainbob13
QUOTE (Yorgmiester @ Jun 6 2008, 04:47 PM) *
Rofl I'm asking the same question.Maybe the baby bugs would eat the zombies???Of course if they weer capable of eating the zombies then they would eat you...


Maybe its maggots. They eat dead flesh. But that would take a whole lot and long time.
Rev_Sam
I know what I won't use - anything and everything having to do with fire.
There's nothing worse than a flaming zombie eating your flesh.
Plainbob13
QUOTE (Rev_Sam @ Jun 7 2008, 02:15 AM) *
I know what I won't use - anything and everything having to do with fire.
There's nothing worse than a flaming zombie eating your flesh.


Flaming zombies? Would that be the undead cast from queer eye for the straight guy?
Nephilim_Slayer
QUOTE (666XZ @ May 1 2008, 11:28 PM) *
What weapons are the best for killing a zombie?

What is a zombie: A zombie is a reanimated human corpse. A zombie is a dead person that is brought back to life through a curse (voodoo, necromancy) or a mutation and has recovered some vital functions like movement.

They are near-mindless, possessing little reasoning power, though many can perform "remembered behaviors" from their mortal existence.

Zombies are omnipresent in the folklore of Haïti, where they are created by voodoo, an african type of black witchcraft. More recently, zombies films have exposed new theories according to which man-made virus or genetical experiments are held responsible for the creation of zombies. Such films put a strong emphasis on flesh and blood : rotting bodies and their attendant maggots, as well as the still-warm gore resulting from savage, often cannibalistic attacks upon the living.

What is a zombie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-zNoxRxs_A

So I ask which weapons are best against zombies?



Cut off their heads. Or any massive head trauma.
Eric_15
No lol i ment larva from a volcano!
and i just plant crops in the soil in the middle with me.
Plainbob13
QUOTE (Eric_15 @ Jun 8 2008, 04:48 AM) *
No lol i ment larva from a volcano!
and i just plant crops in the soil in the middle with me.


Lava comes from a volcanco. Interesting idea but how would you get to the rock or whatever. Then if you could get to it wouldn't the zombies be able to?
UtahRaptor
I have been haveing nightmares of this sort of thing for 16 years now. The wierd thing is where one dream leaves off, the next picks up.

One thing that poeple do not take into account is that zombies do not tire. They just keep comeing. Their strengths does not decrease either unless they have rotted enough.

Weapons:

For me I have enough swords to arm a large group. Swords do not run out of ammo. Their range is short, well with the exception of my 7 foot long 8 inch wide great claymore. Also my cross bow and short bow rock, they are also silent. The less noise you make the better. You do not want any undead attention drawn to you. Chances are you don't want the living to know where you are either. In the case of an outbreak the living will be worse than the dead. The living would kill you for your weapons, food, water, and other supplies.

The use of fire arms of any kind should be kept to an exterme emergency use ONLY!

The very best palces to stay in would actually be a tall cement walled prison. The old kindof prisons. Why? Simple! The walls are designed to keep inmates in. They would do equally well to keep the undead out. Also, you have great stores of food, water, weapons, medical supplies, and other supplies. The very best would be Alkatrz. The very first thing one would need to do is destroy all of the stair cases leading to the ground floor. Stay on the second floor and higher. Being on an island would be also ideal.
GypsyWolf
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Jun 9 2008, 04:50 AM) *
Lava comes from a volcanco. Interesting idea but how would you get to the rock or whatever. Then if you could get to it wouldn't the zombies be able to?


All I can say is WTF.. Plant crops in lava--- this will stop zombies HOW
--Mandalore--
QUOTE (NeoGenesis @ Jun 6 2008, 02:49 PM) *
Would be nice to use that for some time I have seen the amount of fire that one of those can lay down on a area.hehe Street cleaner at your service w00t.gif .

Now for the problem.Mandalore23 I hope you have read about the amount of ammo that gun of yours consume in a minute.And yes you guessed it 2000 ROUNDS per minute.

So say for a hour of EXTREMELY nice fun you would need about 120 000 rounds of ammo try to stick that into a hummer.But I got to hand it to you the idea is HARD CORE MAN thumbsup.gif .



Yeah thats alot of ammo..........of course i'd pull an armored trailer full of ammo behind the hummer! Hehe gunsmilie.gif But I wouldn't be the only one in the hummer though, i'd have some friends with some M4's. thumbsup.gif


--Mandalore--
LightningMunk
personally, my self defense is either A) Tony Jaa, with his awesome knees and elbows to the head tongue.gif
or cool.gif FPS_Doug from Pure Pwnage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsQFYceNZS8

BOOM HEADSHOT!!!! lol, fps players are going to be the only survivors of a zombie apocalypse tongue.gif
(SG)Max
QUOTE (666XZ @ May 2 2008, 07:28 AM) *
What weapons are the best for killing a zombie?

What is a zombie: A zombie is a reanimated human corpse. A zombie is a dead person that is brought back to life through a curse (voodoo, necromancy) or a mutation and has recovered some vital functions like movement.

They are near-mindless, possessing little reasoning power, though many can perform "remembered behaviors" from their mortal existence.

Zombies are omnipresent in the folklore of Haïti, where they are created by voodoo, an african type of black witchcraft. More recently, zombies films have exposed new theories according to which man-made virus or genetical experiments are held responsible for the creation of zombies. Such films put a strong emphasis on flesh and blood : rotting bodies and their attendant maggots, as well as the still-warm gore resulting from savage, often cannibalistic attacks upon the living.

What is a zombie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-zNoxRxs_A

So I ask which weapons are best against zombies?

MISSLE LAUNCHER WOOHOO , Body parts everywhere BOOM!!
(SG)Max
QUOTE (LightningMunk @ Jun 13 2008, 07:45 AM) *
lol, fps players are going to be the only survivors of a zombie apocalypse tongue.gif

thumbsup.gif
666XZ
How about Dragon Skin body armor is a type of ballistic vest made by Pinnacle Armor. It is distinguished by its silver dollar-sized circular discs that overlap like scale armour, creating a flexible vest that allows a greater range of motion and can allegedly absorb more hits than standard military body armor. The discs are composed of a silicon carbide ceramic matrices and laminates, much like the larger ceramic plates in other types of bulletproof vests.[1]

The armor is available in two basic protection levels: SOV-2000, which was certified as Level III protection (this certification was withdrawn, and Pinnacle is suing to force the NIJ to reinstate on the basis of its own private retesting[2][3]) and SOV-3000, which is advertised as Level IV but has not yet been certified as such.[3] Pinnacle Armor's website also identifies a "Level V" variant, which does not correspond to any body armor standard and is not available to the general public.

Dragon Skin has been worn by some civilian contractors in Iraq, some elite special forces in Iraq and Afghanistan,[4] some SWAT teams,[5] nine generals in Afghanistan,[6] bodyguards tasked with protecting generals,[7] and U.S. Secret Service personnel.[8]
sion
full automatic shotgun,assault rifle and katana gunsmilie.gif
Nachtmahr
Side by side shotgun would be my choice.
That or the German MG81Z.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG81
1,600 rounds per minute is mind boggling! w00t.gif
SRCivic98
My choice would be a Mossberg pump shotgun with a six chamber tube, Mossberg 100ATR sniper rifle with .270 five rounds with a 400 yard scope, Beretta 92FS 15 round semi auto pistol with a silencer, combat knife and a katana would be my choices against zombies. Also a Rossi R972 .357 magnum with a 6 inch barrel for back up.
NeoGenesis
YES.Personal weapons and swords will do fine.Ok... So now you killed 100 zombies and you tired of running and fighting you so tired you almost want to let fate take its course and what you still see in front of you is about 10 000 zombies (Say if your in a urban area) marching and crawling your way and you are also out of your favorite weapons ammo.Things look grim eh! ph34r.gif .hehe Start praying for mercy lol.

Well are you forgetting that you have the most powerful weapon in you pocket all along that has the power to connect you all across the globe.Bet you are really stunned now wink2.gif .Its called a SELLFONE grin2.gif

Call the military and the air force.They will come and help because this zombie infestation is a tread to human society.And yes it will take some time for them to get there so casualties will be present where you are.But when they get there it will look something like this

They will arrive in something like this-

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With some off these in tow- thumbsup.gif

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The Black Hawk and A-10 thunderbolt loaded with these beauties-

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The C-130 Hercules will then unload some of those BigBoys of the battlefield-

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And the British cousin -

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Haha when is the next zombie outbreak I will want to enlist tongue.gif .

Cheers thumbsup.gif .
chaoszerg
Best Defense against Zombies.......lots and lots of vultures. wink2.gif
kreestar
Shotgun, axe, LPs...
SRCivic98
QUOTE (chaoszerg @ Jul 9 2008, 06:26 AM) *
Best Defense against Zombies.......lots and lots of vultures. wink2.gif

HAHAHA!!!! That's some funny stuff but also think about this too, what if the vultures eat the infect, and then with that being done, they too become infected and come after you as well? But still a funny damn joke.
chaoszerg
QUOTE (SRCivic98 @ Jul 9 2008, 04:25 PM) *
HAHAHA!!!! That's some funny stuff but also think about this too, what if the vultures eat the infect, and then with that being done, they too become infected and come after you as well? But still a funny damn joke.



That's the best part Vultures are carrion eaters they eat dead things so if they become infected they will eat themselves too. Woo Hoo.
Yorgmiester
QUOTE (chaoszerg @ Jul 9 2008, 04:28 PM) *
That's the best part Vultures are carrion eaters they eat dead things so if they become infected they will eat themselves too. Woo Hoo.

I think we've found the perfect anti-zombie weapon... grin2.gif
NeoGenesis
I kinda thought this might come in handy also.Ramped up 12V Tesla Coil on car roof zero ammo just ONE RED POWER BUTTON INSIDE CAR lol.

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hehe-Just cruising,minding my own business w00t.gif rofl.gif

Cheers wink2.gif .
red-star
knives they dont need reloading
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