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Eddy_P
Greetings from Australia

I wish to establish a set of rules for studying Evidence of Time Travel.

This study is not about 'How time travel works' nor 'When was a time machine invented'.
It is not asking for opinions whether time travel is possible or not, but simply…
Is there any evidence documented in ancient texts that relate to visits to the past ?

PURPOSE and AIMS
- To seek out and identify any evidence of Time Travel that may be documented in ancient texts.
- Create a set of rules for this task.
- Scrutinize and examine past information and any new evidence found - using an organized peer process of evaluation.
- Make a Judgement based upon the evidence presented, then state a Conclusion.


METHOD
I am seeking a ‘Submission of Ideas’ regarding how to go about gathering information and then evaluating it.
STEP 1 . Develop a Search Criterion
STEP 2 . Gather Evidence
STEP 3 . Examine and Evaluate evidence
STEP 4 . Form a Judgement and Conclusion


I am hoping your members will be able to contribute to my project with ideas or comments.
Link to Ideas Submission website

To have your ideas officially acknowledged, please use the submission page on the website cited.

Yours Faithfully,
Eddy Pengelly
On behalf of PPHC Study Group, Australia.
Grey Area
QUOTE (Eddy_P @ May 2 2008, 04:10 AM) *
Greetings from Australia

I wish to establish a set of rules for studying Evidence of Time Travel.

This study is not about 'How time travel works' nor 'When was a time machine invented'.
It is not asking for opinions whether time travel is possible or not, but simply…
Is there any evidence documented in ancient texts that relate to visits to the past ?

PURPOSE and AIMS
- To seek out and identify any evidence of Time Travel that may be documented in ancient texts.
- Create a set of rules for this task.
- Scrutinize and examine past information and any new evidence found - using an organized peer process of evaluation.
- Make a Judgement based upon the evidence presented, then state a Conclusion.


METHOD
I am seeking a ‘Submission of Ideas’ regarding how to go about gathering information and then evaluating it.
STEP 1 . Develop a Search Criterion
STEP 2 . Gather Evidence
STEP 3 . Examine and Evaluate evidence
STEP 4 . Form a Judgement and Conclusion


I am hoping your members will be able to contribute to my project with ideas or comments.
Link to Ideas Submission website

To have your ideas officially acknowledged, please use the submission page on the website cited.

Yours Faithfully,
Eddy Pengelly
On behalf of PPHC Study Group, Australia.


Well surely any serious study should at least be based on whether the subject matter is possible or not. There's not much point in theorising something if it is impossible to do in the first place.

Bender.
QUOTE (Grey Area @ May 2 2008, 11:40 AM) *
Well surely any serious study should at least be based on whether the subject matter is possible or not. There's not much point in theorising something if it is impossible to do in the first place.


It is possible, although I severely doubt our ancestors had the technology to do so, seeing though we are far away from doing it ourselves. Such a technologically advanced civilisation would have left traces behind.
Siara
It seems like your best bet would be some wildly anachronistic artifact that a time traveler brought back-- like open up a sealed ancient Egyptian tomb and find one of the mummies buried with a 5,000 year old iPod. You'd have to do extremely controlled tests on the iPod to prove it's age to the scientific community.

original.gif Good luck.
atom286
Ok I know Vedic texts talk about space flight but I have never read any on time travel.

I want to say that just as parallel universes allow for every possible future to occur they also allow for every possible past as well. Retrocausality therefore must surely be real and that makes time travel meaningless as neither future or pat are set in stone.
keithisco
Eddy P,

What you propose is a huge undertaking, monumental even.
Taking your assumption "Time travel into the past HAS ocurred and must be recorded somewhere". To be absolutely clear on this however, are you looking for textual evidence of somebody enabled to travel to their past at the time of the text being written? ie an account written maybe 1-2000 years ago by a person who has experinced time travel?

The destruction of the great Library at Alexandria may well have included the texts for which you are searching, and, despite a lot of lamenting by scholars, most of the supposed texts destroyed there, had already been copied by the Arabs, and in particular, the Moors. In Cordova, for example, there were 6-800,000 books that had been translated. The library itself was destroyed in 1013, but not before most of the texts had been copied and dispersed. This was not pre-cognition on the part of the Moors, but simply part of their belief that knowledge was universal, and to be shared, not kept hidden. The Toledo library contained texts by Greek, Roman and Arab writers, and amongst them were several, if not hundreds of scientific treatyse any one of which might contain the information that you are looking for.

Without devoting a great deal of time to researching the lists, I cannot offer any specific examples for your study.

I recall reading some early Japanese texts (I think 14-15th century) that alluded to time travel, and will try to unearth the titles, but for now, I wish you the best of luck.
Eddy_P
QUOTE (Grey Area)
Well surely any serious study should at least be based on whether the subject matter is possible or not. There's not much point in theorising something if it is impossible to do in the first place.

I disagree.
If you assume it is impossible, then a search for evidence of time travel will not be undertaken - therefore, if there IS evidence of time travel, we would not know about it, and inadvertently, seemingly confirm the negative assumption.

If we search for time travel and do not find any, then the negative assumption is more firmly asserted.


QUOTE (keithisco)
To be absolutely clear on this however, are you looking for textual evidence of somebody enabled to travel to their past at the time of the text being written? ie an account written maybe 1-2000 years ago by a person who has experinced time travel?

I hadn’t considered that time travel may have already been achieved in the past, and past records may show evidence of past time travel encounters.

I am looking for modern technology and/or 20th century historical events being described or documented in ancient texts (because I have access to modern historical events, and know what 20th century computers look like).

This ties in with ancient biblical claims of ‘…..this will happen in the end times’ associated with contemporary Religions claiming that we ARE now in the End Times.

IF we are in the end times, then the so called ‘future historical events’ described in the Bible (Daniel and Revelation) and other ancient texts should be about our current history. A simple check to history books should reveal any matches of data.

But what rules do we need to investigate these things ?
adkchamp
time travel is resulted in the mind only and we can only go back to when we're were consciously present (mind).
Harte
QUOTE (Eddy_P @ May 1 2008, 10:10 PM) *
Greetings from Australia

I wish to establish a set of rules for studying Evidence of Time Travel.

This study is not about 'How time travel works' nor 'When was a time machine invented'.
It is not asking for opinions whether time travel is possible or not, but simply…
Is there any evidence documented in ancient texts that relate to visits to the past ?


Yours Faithfully,
Eddy Pengelly
On behalf of PPHC Study Group, Australia.


Gee, Eddy, I dunno.

Why not read the drivel you've been selling at your website for several years now? It purports to have exactly the evidence you claim to be "seeking."

What happened, did you lose lose faith or did you run out of ways to get hits at your site?

Looks the same to me as it did years ago when we met on another forum.

Harte
Eric Raven The Skeptic
QUOTE (Harte @ May 12 2008, 03:39 PM) *
Gee, Eddy, I dunno.

Why not read the drivel you've been selling at your website for several years now? It purports to have exactly the evidence you claim to be "seeking."

What happened, did you lose lose faith or did you run out of ways to get hits at your site?

Looks the same to me as it did years ago when we met on another forum.

Harte

Boo ya. Way to call it. Spam at its core. He is looking to sell books.
iSeeDeadPpl!
i won't buy your book!
Eddy_P
QUOTE (Harte @ May 13 2008, 06:09 AM) *
Gee, Eddy, I dunno.
Why not read the drivel you've been selling at your website for several years now? It purports to have exactly the evidence you claim to be "seeking."
What happened, did you lose lose faith or did you run out of ways to get hits at your site?
Looks the same to me as it did years ago when we met on another forum.
Harte

There may be new ‘evidence’ somewhere in ancient texts, but what is being sought is clearly stated in my OP.
Extracts…
I wish to establish a set of rules for studying Evidence of Time Travel.
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In ‘PURPOSE and AIMS’ section
- Create a set of rules for this task.
- Scrutinize and examine past information and any new evidence found - using an organized peer process of evaluation.


(Bold text added in case you miss the main points - again.)
Eddy

Eddy_P
Draft Search Criterion Available

Please be advised that a draft SEARCH CRITERION is now available for viewing along with HOW Texts were selected for examination.

Your suggested amendments and/or comments are welcomed.

LINK to Search for Evidence of Time Travel website
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chrisfreak
I don't know... maybe try to search photos from late 19th century and early 20th century, and then record all of the faces. Try to find if they appear in other photo of other period of time without being older, and that person might be a time traveller, hehehe. I got this idea from a movie, but I forgot what it is called.
Eddy_P
QUOTE (chrisfreak @ May 14 2008, 06:12 PM) *
I don't know... maybe try to search photos from late 19th century and early 20th century, and then record all of the faces. Try to find if they appear in other photo of other period of time without being older, and that person might be a time traveller, hehehe. I got this idea from a movie, but I forgot what it is called.

This concept was also in Dr Who regarding the Doctor himself and Captain Jack.
ROGER
This reminds me of Asimov's "Foundation" series. Where the leading Historians of the day read all the literature of previous authors. Then write their own interpretation of the findings. Thus the scholars and Academics of the day were in fact Plagiarist's of their society.

Not that this is what we see here of course. unsure.gif
Eddy_P
VIEW preliminary results

Please be advised that 8 preliminary results are now available for viewing.

The Study Criterion was completed and initial examination of selected texts undertaken.

Pegg's 'Descriptive' Theory
QUOTE
The documented accounts in certain ancient texts known as prophetic "dreams" or "visions" are about the contents of the 1995 produced Ancient Civilizations of the Mediterranean multi-media cd-rom.

To test Pegg's theory we need to conduct a REALITY-CHECK to see if it is true for all, many, some, or no ancient texts.

To do this we need to use 'If-Then' logic, and PREDICT what will happen when Pegg's theory is applied to other ancient texts. We then need to conduct EXPERIMENTS and OBSERVE what happens.

If-Then Prediction
In relation to the cited texts, IF the theory is correct, THEN we will observe that pictures from the Ancients cd-rom match to the descriptions in the cited ancient texts.

If Pegg's theory fails our reality check because its predictions do not match observations, then it can be rejected as false.

You now have the opportunity to examine 8 sets of observations to decide for yourself whether Pegg’s theory has merit or not.

LINK to ‘Examine Ancient Texts for Evidence of Time Travel’ website

These include
(NT Revelation 4:6-7)
OT Ezekiel 1:5,10
OT Daniel 7:3-8
Qur’an 42:32
(Nostradamus Century 1 Quatrain 81)
Akkadian, Babylonian, Mesopotamian Creation Stories
The Great Ennead of Heliopolis (Egyptian Gods)
Plato's Critias Dialogue – City Beneath the Sea (Atlantis)
The Egg of Brahma (Hindu Understanding)
OT Genesis Chapter 1
(Accounts by Endubsar from Sumerian Clay Tablets)
Eddy_P
2008 Major Report Available

PPHC-SG presents a new report regarding the Old Testament Book of Ezekiel chapters 1-4, 8, 9, 40, & 41.

From 8 Chapters (involving 104 verses), 198 descriptions by Ezekiel have been found to match the imagery from the Ancients cd-rom.

LINK to ‘Examine Ancient Texts for Evidence of Time Travel’ website

Three more major reports will be made available from mid June 2008:
- Egyptian texts, hieroglyphs, and stories about their Gods.
- Plato's Critias and Timaeus dialogues: The legend of Atlantis.
- Sumerian Clay Tablet stories by the scribe Endubsar.
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