HumanTorch
May 3 2008, 04:16 AM
I am a little confused. This lady/man said she/he iss a death shaman. And some very weird almost scary stuff. By the way it was a youtube message. Here is the message.
May 02, 2008
Hello Nicky.
>Who and exactly what are you.
Maria Katerina Petchuwa Frankuzka Czarnik Novak
Death Shaman of the 13 Star Nation Shamanka's
of the Primordial Grandmothers of Ursa Major of the
Grizzly and Black Jaguar Nations
>you said you are a death shaman.
Yes, I am.
>I myself am a Psionic and a medium.
Thats nice.
>I would like to know what you are talking about and if there is anything you can teach me.
I only have apprentices, they are females and are future dreamkeepers. A Shaman must master all. I am a collective Shaman, which means I am a Nagual. I initiate Shamans when they reach their last death, they meet me, as death. Sometimes I can push through the astral planes into this dimension, sometimes i visit them in the dream planes. I only slay them because its their final test.
Because heaven and hell are inside the self, it takes many lifetimes to even be able to attempt being a 'real' shaman. I came once to earth, lived many lifetimes to prepare to be a shaman, and then during the 8 death initiations i died. I came back, then i had another series of lifetimes and this was where i was at my birth this lifetime. I then had to begin again, the 8 deaths, reclaim all fragments of self on all levels of the earths astral planes... i made it this time to be a "Collective" Nagual Shaman.
What is it that you need right now from me and if i can help I will be glad to be of service.
M
veledran
May 3 2008, 06:06 AM
Naguals are usually considered negative if that helps. As far as shamans o I doubt one would contact through the use of Youtube.
Even if it was a person with 'power' I would be a bit suspect as the closest thing I know to a 'death shaman' is one who has decided to turn to curses, injuring others, etc.
But over all sounds like the usual 12 year-old trying to pull someone's leg and feel special.
Nucular
May 3 2008, 06:25 PM
HT, sounds like you need to read some Carlos Castaneda. Although to be honest, so does Maria Katerina Petchuwa Frankuzka Czarnik Novak, from the sound of it.
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But over all sounds like the usual 12 year-old trying to pull someone's leg and feel special.
I think you're probably right. Ms. Novak talks about these mystical matters as though they were the levels of an XBox game.
HumanTorch
May 3 2008, 07:12 PM
Dont know what your talking about but I don't believe what she said just seeing what response I would get. Felt like I needed to share it
Heartagram3200
May 3 2008, 07:43 PM
Sounds fake to me...I honestly doubt a Shaman would use youtube...
HumanTorch
May 4 2008, 12:39 AM
I asked for some knowledge and she said go take 7 years of training in a Buddhist temple and then message me
Moonie2012
May 4 2008, 12:58 AM
QUOTE (HumanTorch @ May 2 2008, 11:16 PM)

>I myself am a Psionic and a medium.
Thats nice.
ROFL, judging by her reply she doesn't believe you either.
P.S. She's full of sh**.
Shankpin
May 4 2008, 01:19 AM
AHH.. just a prank!
HumanTorch
May 4 2008, 07:29 AM
Yea I myself didnt believe her. Wanted to see what she would say.
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