I believe in the possibility I've just never been convinced..

Yes, there is always a possiblity. But, highly improbable.

Its just that people with a bit of common sense won't show it. Cause the other "normal" people of the society will not accept them. Psychics also do not want the attention. Even though 1 million is at large.

Do you know for sure these people don't want attention, or that they will not be excepted by society?
1.000.000 huh! Can you show me where this is a fact?

You see, you keep stating everything as though it is a fact, without any sources for what you say.
Surely you do not speak for everybody Spork! It is just your opinion.

Everyone speaks in their own opinion. I speak for myself. My words sounds stronger than its meant to be. Its that way. I won't change, nor do I want to.

Then by all means state it as your opinion, and not as if it's the same as the other sixty-thousand members on this forum.

Yup it did, because I had my girlfriend behind me and we were talking. All I can say at the moment is that I'm not letting my kid one day use the internet until he's 18. Nothing personal, just that I don't want him assuming he has psychic powers after watching anime and basically make a fool of himself.

EDIT: Just read the other posts after me and have to say it's amusing. Excuses'R'us

I have said, I will not change it. In my earlier posts.

Do you understand what I am trying to tell you Spork?

You cannot speak for everybody, as everyones opinions vary. So, everytime you try to speak for
everybody, your posts will be automatically flawed.

Ok...Anyone who wnats me to show proof, I jus wanna let know...I'm workin on somethin...It's not TK...But me and Eight Bit are workin on the Telepathy test again...So we're tryin to set that up...So you can all look forward to the results for that...

Sure sure sure. But sometimes you do that too. Do try to change. Like me

We are doing the favor for you by even asking you like you can do this. You are teenager a that wants to atteniton by claiming powers. Its an old story.

Maybe not, but just out of curiosity Heartagram3200(not counting your obvious dislike for words ending in 'G' ...i.e doing, being, trying, waiting etc) why do you keep misspelling the words 'want,wanted and can't' as wnat,wnated and cna't, ...i just don't understand,seriously, ...i can understand misspelled words occasionally(even i do it on rare occasions even after 'proof reading' before i press the 'Add Reply' button, but to do it in almost every post is just baffling.

P.S. This is not just Nitpicking, sincerely...Kraken

P.P.S. I've never seen any evidence for psi this or psi that either, certainly not here on earth(or any other planet for that matter )

Because those words he typed it fast, and so often mispelled them in that way.

Wanting attention? I don't feel like he wants attention. But you for that matter, I feel like you want attention a whole lot more.

No offence Sporkling, but my question was to Heartagram3200, unless you're his 'brothers keeper' and you feel he can't answer the question on his own(should he feel inclined to do so)?

Secondly: you're excuse(for him) is a little on the weak side, since it has nothing to do with how fast people type, but rather whether people(in general) can be ar**d to 'proof read' their own material before they 'Add' their reply.

Thirdly: it still dosn't answer why he does it in practically all his posts.

sincerely: Kraken

Why not? This "test" you are arranging sounds to be far short of proof of anything.

Ar ha. Good question.
1. I don't know why you have to ask that.

2. Cause I make those mistakes too. But I usually change it. Besides, those words are very simple words. If you are trying to take him down because of his words, don't bother. It never works.

3. Well I don't know. Try asking him.

Ahem.

Please avoid personal attacks - instead, focus on the topic matter at hand, rather than the person making the posts. Any points relating to grammar, etc, (unless completely unintelligible) are probably best dealt with via PM, rather than within a public forum.

Thanks in advance,

Tiggs
[Forum Mod Team]

It is being nitpicky. A lot of people here, some anyway, their first language isn't English.

& I don't recall this board being about grammar, if it were I'd make sure never to come to it. :}

Its obivous that Heart needs attention. He is a teenager. He wants to think of himself as special so he makes up stories about supposed powers.

I do love attentions from women. Not teenage psi kids.

Heart. I do believe you are telling the truth. Really. I wish you luck in all psychic stuff you are going to do in the future.

Well actually pireo, all the websites from the internet have almost the same points and therefore, I don't think you should read through so many. Well hehe I did not like telekinesis so I did not practise it much except at one point of my life. It helped me increase my concentration abilities though.

It was not a personal attack, it was a perfectly legitimate question, in light of what the OP posted himself as shown below


Let me just quote Heartagram3200' here....Ahem...."I can write a flawless sentence easily"


Is this not an Insult too, as if to say..You are a really slow writer...What the hell does it matter how long a person takes to post(well, at least their not typing with the light off, and then accidentally pressing 'Add Reply'???)


No!..it is NOT being nitpicky when the OP is Deliberately(Yes Deliberately) misspelling and using bad Grammar, he has already admitted that he can write a (Quote) "FLAWLESS sentence EASILY", not even sure if i could lay claim to that, after all, none of us are Infallible

Guys..Guys(and Gals ofcoarse), I have absolutely no problem with people who can't write(or speak) good English...(Hell, they speak better English than a lot of people who's 'First language is English'), and they can speak it better than i could possibly speak their language, and i am ALWAYS aware of that. hence why i don't knock about 90%(my estimation) of the posts in here. go figure

But it gets my back up (just a little anyway), when posters use bad English because they think it makes their posts look "KEWL"( which i think they mean 'Cool'), It just comes down to laziness, and i find it hard to take anything they say seriously, i guess i'm just getting too old. Amen and peace to all

Sincerely Kraken

Edited for my own spelling mistakes, see...its really that easy. Amen

I uh...wiggled a pencil...

LOL! at Kraken.

I am not making fun of you. But this post cracks me up. If I were telekinetic, it would be my top priority to develop it. You say you have a life, if you were telekinetic you would have anything you wanted. You would earn millions if not billions.

But ask yourself...Is trading a normal childhood for being a child prodigy even worth it?
And, it's not amazing...I can move psi wheels, and, lately I've found that controlling stuff like my computer and video games and stuff with TK is easy(Like trying to make certain songs on my playlist of over 100 songs on my comp come up, 7/10 times It works...Or in video games tryin to make certain items pop up...) Things like that...

And my name is Johny Apple Snapper!

......BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

*cough* anyway... Firstly, psi wheels are moved by currents and heat. Convection right? And the second claim there is just laughable. Making loot appear in WOW eh? You can't control stuff on your computer fella, it's all randomly generated by a bunch of chips and odds. If you have a random number generator on your computer, you can't make it generate the number you want.

It's just you that hope for something (Or in your case "control it") and it happens. Then you become happy for a sec and claim you did it with your mind. Where it was just a coincidence. I went through your little stage aswell as a kid. Don't think I don't know what your on about. Not having a go at ya, I'm just trying to help ya mate.

This is not true. If he were a strong telekinetic, enough to create a force field so powerful to block even a missle, maybe, but a weak telekinesis does not do that. People look at you differently. And not even the good type of differently. They think that you are a person who should go to the mental hospital. And in this time and age, it is always most useful to study harder than develop your telekinesis. For, studying, assures you a job, where telekinesis and all that is a gamble. And to put all your hopes in gambling is not the best idea.

The frequency with which a certain song comes up on a computer or an item appears in a video game is not controlled by anything that can be physically manipulated. Its software, not hardware controlled.

I think you are just attributing random chance to psychokinetic powers, there's nothing metaphysical about this.

But the whole story is not told. How many songs are actually played on the softwares? But the gaming part could be contributed to chance. Unless its talking about maple story, but them we'll be talking about a different thing altogether

Might sound a bit like Eric but:

And considering that some players will play some songs more often than others due to age, user popularity, bad/guessable random generator, etc., it's a pretty bunk claim.

But as of that, you have no proof.

LOL mate we're not the ones who made the silly claim. We are not the ones who need to provide proof. Sorry to burst ya bubble

If we see this a little more clearly, this is a claim as well. And I say, I want proof.

There doesn't have to be anything wrong with a random number generator in order for it to pick some numbers more frequently than others.

As a demonstration, try rolling a dice a few dozen times and keep a tally chart of how many times each number comes up. The odds are that the numbers will not appear an equal number of times, some will appear more often than others.

Is it telekinetic ? Most likely, no.

Odd that the person who believes every claim they see wants proof of something (that's fairly insignificant, no less) all of a sudden - that's pretty hypocritical.

You'll believe that a person can start fires with their minds with no proof at all, but you won't believe a computer program can generate a guessable outcome without proof.

Unbelievable. You of all people have no ground to stand on asking for proof.

Oh yes. But I don't believe in science. I believe in psychics. Therefore, I require proof of your claims. Just as you would require them from me.

Thanks, I got my LOL in for today with that statement - that's some funny stuff right there. That's like saying "I believe in language, but not vocal cords". Anyway, you wanted proof, so here's some good reading on the shortcomings of random number generators:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_number_generator

Of course, the above information is stored in a computer, which is a very scientific machine, so by your logic it may not even exist. You should probably walk away from the magic science box you are typing with right now, before it disappears into non-belief!

EVERYTHING is science. If psychics are ever proven to be real, future science will explain how it works. You can't have psychics without science, but you can easily have science without psychics. There may be some things science currently can't explain, but for everything it can't, there's a hundred thousand others that it can. To dismiss it and opt for fantasy and magic is pure ignorance.

I'd hate to be your science teacher. You'd best get a good understanding in reality before you start believing in dreams.

Well science is real by your standards. But it is something I have ceased to believe in. If psychics is proven to be real, it is science that will explain how it works. Thats another reason I don't trust science. See, right now, the psychic realm is not included in science. But if ever it is proven, science will take hold of it, in other words, steal the credit that the people who have believed in it has discovered it. Letting it go into science, which has scoffed at the idea before, becoming the father figure for psychics.

I wish to differ moonie, I feel that for everything one thing science can prove, there are many that they can't because science is limited in their beliefs and it is that limit that limits them.

I will chose to understand what I understand. I'd better nothing. I believe what I will.

I know what you're trying to do, and it's not going to work.

Asking for someone to show their "ability" with a video (which they never do, wonder why) has nothing to do with showing scientific proofs.

You want a video that proves science? You're looking at it. The monitor in front of you is proof enough. However, I can tell you one thing you will never see on your very scientific screen - a video of someone showing their psionic powers. Again, I wonder why?

Oh yeah, I remember - it's a bunch of BS. Believe in it if you want, but as you get older you'll realize what a waste of time it is - hopefully.

How many times has the process of science been explained to you now Spork?


Sorry, I am just at a total loss of words on this one.

You do not realise do you? I changed my post.

The monitor in front of me is no more scientific than psychic skills. If the monitor was not invented, and yet people keep saying there is something like that would people believe in them? The answer, no. It comes into the realm of science because the idea has been developed and proven. If not, it'll be taken to a mere myth. So now you can tell me, is science actually real? Or is it taking credit for other people's discoveries?

Sporkling, to say that you 'don't believe in science' is incorrect.

You live in a building that was constructed with the help of mathematics and physics principles. If you take medicine when you are ill or a paracetamol for a headache you have the sciences of chemistry and biology to thank. Your telephone, your television, your computer, your fridge, your oven - these are all developed again with the use of science - real principles and concepts that are implemented everywhere in your everyday life.

To say you don't believe in science is like saying you don't believe in computers or you don't believe in telephones or anything else that you take for granted and use on a daily basis. Science is the means with which we understand how the world works and makes all of the above and more possible.

If psychics were real, whould it be a common knowledge or a scientific fact? I am sure that it will be a scientific fact. Science takes people's knowledge and makes it fact. It has made mistakes.

For example, the 4 minute mile, someone dared to changellenge it. And then, the idea was scraped. .So now you can tell me, is science actually real? Or does it only make assumptions? Because it made assupmptions. Science did not really "know". And most obviously, they just assumed. As seen from the 4 minute mile, all the nonsense about not being able to run faster than a mile in 4 minutes. Why do people believe that us humans cannot run faster than that? Because they were said by powerful figures. The scientists. In that case, how can it be said that it is any different from us believers, assuming and believing?

Sure, you can say science has made many mistakes but it made a lot of great discoveries. Then let me take you to the future. 10,000 years. What would the world be like? Everything can change. Even the most basic and most common of knowledge that we know now.

If psychic phenomena is indeed real then i'm quite sure one day it will become an accepted science.


People said a four minute mile couldn't be done, but then it was satisfactorily demonstrated that it could be done and from then on it was accepted as possible.

Some people say psychokinetic phenomena don't exist. Nobody has satisfactorily demonstrated that it does, but it's possible that someone will at some point. Its also possible however, that they won't, and that it doesn't.

Until that conclusive, irrefutable demonstration occurs most people will not be convinced, just like most people were not convinced someone could run a mile in four minutes until someone actually did it.

IF. Lets see video evidence, and we can discuss it some more.