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ambelamba
I think X-files is hardly an action adventure genre so let's leave that alone. And Men In Black the movies are based on Malibu comic series, not the real MIB lore. So let's pass that one out too.

So let's make a simple question. Why can't we make movie with Greys, Reptillians, and Praying Mantis as the baddies? Nobody ever tried that. Why not? They are quite well-known among UFO enthusiasts and especially Greys and their abductions are well known urban legends. There was this movie Communion. There was Fire in the Sky the movie. I guess there has been some alien abduction specials on TV.

But why no action adventure movie? Why no movie that Greys and Reptillians get whacked by the hero? No, let's not count Stargate SG-1. I want to see a scene where an abduction is interrupted by our hero and the alien abductors are killed by the hero.

Is there any unwritten law against writing that kind of movie?

My summer term starts at the end of May. One class is called Special Studies and Illustration and I get to make a mock movie pitch packet with many illustrations. I plan to make a movie pitch based on existing UFO and alien lore. I already mentioned in some other thread. The project will be called Soul Canister.

Basically Greys, Reptillians, Praying Mantis aliens are depicted as evil villains. And the hero was a king who lost his kingdom to those aliens in his past life. The hero is now an Air Force captain who's a borderline slacker and about to get dismissed by the Air Force. (Well, Dismissal is the worst thing that can happen to an officer.) There are these super robots called Soul Canisters and one of them, Skrygar, lands on Earth and finds the hero.

Then there's two and a half hours of merciless gigantic super robot action. original.gif And at the end of the trilogy, Three bad alien races are permanently wiped out from the face of Galaxy. If anybody is offended by this, I wouldn't know what to say. But I heard this interesting tidbit from Timothy Good's book. US government is using pop culture to measure the people's interest in UFO and aliens. Is that true? I read that US government use movies to condition the people's perception on aliens. Is that true?

REBEL
QUOTE (ambelamba @ May 3 2008, 03:53 PM) *
But I heard this interesting tidbit from Timothy Good's book. US government is using pop culture to measure the people's interest in UFO and aliens. Is that true? I read that US government use movies to condition the people's perception on aliens. Is that true?


Or maybe to measure to see what it's actually worth ($$$) to Hollywood in making the movies, authors (copy rights etc) ambelamba...



Theres gold in them there skies.
ambelamba
QUOTE (REBEL @ May 2 2008, 11:36 PM) *
Or maybe to measure to see what it's actually worth ($$$) to Hollywood in making the movies, authors (copy rights etc) ambelamba...



Theres gold in them there skies.



I think UFO lores are not the kind of things to be copyrighted...
OldTimeRadio

Because "real" UFO stories tend to be dramatically thin when compared to the best efforts of the master science-fiction authors. Compare the claims (genuine or not) of any UFO "abductee" to Dr. Isaac Asimov's FOUNDATION AND EMPIRE.
Clovis
I heard War of the Worlds was made as a test and the people could not handle it then. They cannot handle it now. When the aliens come flying down (even though they have been here all along so it will all be a deception IMHO) then we will have no choice but to face it.

All the movies since then have just been prepping us for the final show. The message of man needing to fix it up was presented in The Day The Earth Stood Still. The 80s brought tons of UFO movies ET, Starman, etc... Each one has a different message. Even Superfriends is a form of aliens all wrapped up nicely for kids.
REBEL
QUOTE (ambelamba @ May 3 2008, 04:09 PM) *
I think UFO lores are not the kind of things to be copyrighted...


It is if you have book/movie rights etc...


eg; Google ET & see what it netted Spielberg...
REBEL
err or even Close ('Cult Classic') Encounters Of The Third Kind... alien.gif

Clovis
Yes that was one of the best if not the best one from the 80s. What the hell was he building anyways?

There was also Brother From Another Planet.

And before anyone gets cheeky Spaceballs does not count k
REBEL
QUOTE (OldTimeRadio @ May 3 2008, 04:11 PM) *
Because "real" UFO stories tend to be dramatically thin when compared to the best efforts of the master science-fiction authors. Compare the claims (genuine or not) of any UFO "abductee" to Dr. Isaac Asimov's FOUNDATION AND EMPIRE.


Not for Fire In The Sky or even Strieber's Communion (more cult classics) (Based on actual events) (?)

But then Hollywood has a tenancy to hype up & glorify eh...
outsider75
theres the sci fi movie Taken which was quite good as well as the series Dark Skies and not to mention the undergound cult classic Endangered Species with Robert Urich. all these movies are based on UFO lore.
anarkhy


Hollywood is avoiding make films with aliens because of the royalties the aliens are demanding. wink2.gif



Tejina: Ex Arctic Elfie
Personally I wouldn't mind seeing less gore filled movies about aliens... I'm so sick of gore fests.

And huh... Wasn't ID4 one where the hero gets to wack an alien?

*Remembers Will Smith kicking the tenticles because the alien stank* rolleyes.gif

But really, I think Hollywood just hasn't released any lately because they want to make really bad comic book based movies lately for summer blockbusters. And they do gore fests for the holidays.

Cradle of Fish
Oh jeez, I can just imagine it. David Icke as one of the characters, depicted as a stern scientist who knew of the impending reptilian invasion/conspiracy who nobody believes... until it's too late!

I'm sorry, it just wouldn't make a good movie.
REBEL
QUOTE (Cradle of Fish @ May 4 2008, 04:54 AM) *
Oh jeez, I can just imagine it. David Icke as one of the characters, depicted as a stern scientist who knew of the impending reptilian invasion/conspiracy who nobody believes... until it's too late!

I'm sorry, it just wouldn't make a good movie.


The Visitors aka V Cradle.
Maybe a remake V Next Generation 2012 (Reptilian New World Order)



I always wanted to be abducted & tortured by Diana.

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OldTimeRadio
QUOTE (Clovis @ May 3 2008, 07:41 AM) *
I heard War of the Worlds was made as a test and the people could not handle it then.


I'm sorry, but are you referring to H. G. Wells' original novel, the October 30, 1938 radio broadcast or the early 1950s motion picture?

If you're talking about the 1938 radio play producer/director/star Orson Welles, the scriptwriter and the cast, musicians and sound effects people seem to have been as stunned by the public reaction as anybody else.
ROGER
Any thing made after the 1958 movie "The BLOB" is just so so sci fi.
Magnatude
"They Live"
Now that was Rowdy Rod Piper's film debut.
Simple, demented outlook and in many ways could be true.

It could have been a better movie with some real actors in it.

BTW, OP, you use Celtx? Great movie script software for free.
ambelamba
QUOTE (Magnatude @ May 3 2008, 10:52 PM) *
"They Live"
Now that was Rowdy Rod Piper's film debut.
Simple, demented outlook and in many ways could be true.

It could have been a better movie with some real actors in it.

BTW, OP, you use Celtx? Great movie script software for free.


No, I don't use any specific script software. In fact I am not required to write a full script.
supervike
I'd like to go out on a limb and say there would be NO Existing UFO lore, had it not been for Hollywood.
louie
Personally ive a pain in my ass with movies that pnly protray aliens coming to earth with the sole purpose of wanting to take over, enslave, kill us. why not more movues about the possible good sides if they come, these movies only make allready scared jumpy humans more scared an jumpy.
Plainbob13
QUOTE (REBEL @ May 3 2008, 06:09 PM) *
The Visitors aka V Cradle.
Maybe a remake V Next Generation 2012 (Reptilian New World Order)



I always wanted to be abducted & tortured by Diana.

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Oh man i forgot about that show. lol
OldTimeRadio
QUOTE (supervike @ May 4 2008, 03:45 PM) *
I'd like to go out on a limb and say there would be NO Existing UFO lore, had it not been for Hollywood.


But the first major UFO flaps were already two or three years in the past when the very first "flying saucer" movie was made and that was such a low budget affair that few people actually saw it. And it would be another six or seven years, several more flaps down the UFO road, before the first effective (that is, frightening) UFO movie was filmed. In short, the lore was firmly in place well before Hollywood moved in.
FireMoon
The Thing from Another World (1951) is generally considered the first genuine UFO film... That's a good 4 years after the term had entered the popular lexicon..
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