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markshark4
For those who have read The Day After Roswell by US Army Col. Philip Corso, do you think that he is telling the truth about seeing an alien body in 1947 at Fort Riley?

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Scudbuster

I first read his book when it came out - must be 10 years or so now. I believed him then and still do. He was on staff back in the White House / Pentagon during the Eisenhower and Kennedy years, so he was there.

In his video interviews, he seems pretty miffed this information is still being shielded from the public. Lots of people have taken pot shots at him over the years, but no one has ever been able to shoot him and his recollections down.

He seems far more believable than some others- especially many of those who have testified in the "Project Camelot" effort. So he gets a "yes" vote in my book.
Kugelblitz
The book has been roundly debunked by anyone with any credibility on the subject of technological development in the United States for the last 40 years. In fact, the entire Roswell issue has been debunked by most credible observers (some of which are UFO researchers and 'believers') and the continued fascination by the UFO community on the Roswell myth is a complete waste of time and energy. Nonetheless, the 'true believers' will never give up on Roswell.
Kugelblitz
QUOTE (Scudbuster @ May 3 2008, 06:55 AM) *
I first read his book when it came out - must be 10 years or so now. I believed him then and still do. He was on staff back in the White House / Pentagon during the Eisenhower and Kennedy years, so he was there.

In his video interviews, he seems pretty miffed this information is still being shielded from the public. Lots of people have taken pot shots at him over the years, but no one has ever been able to shoot him and his recollections down.

He seems far more believable than some others- especially many of those who have testified in the "Project Camelot" effort. So he gets a "yes" vote in my book.


There have been multiple documentaries, most notably on the History Channel, which dismantle the credibility of Corso's book. He may have been there, but that doesn't mean he was telling the truth or isn't delusional. Again, Roswell is a complete waste of ones' energy in my opinion.
Scudbuster
QUOTE (Kugelblitz @ May 3 2008, 08:04 AM) *
There have been multiple documentaries, most notably on the History Channel, which dismantle the credibility of Corso's book. He may have been there, but that doesn't mean he was telling the truth or isn't delusional. Again, Roswell is a complete waste of ones' energy in my opinion.



Stanton Friedman has blown all those feeble de-bunking efforts clear out of the water. That History Channel effort was really pathetic, if I remember it correctly.

I'll continue to side with those ex military people who have talked- not some de-bunker with an agenda, or the U.S. government and their ever changing "explanations".

Roswell was a real event- it happened.
Siara

It's a fascinating question. Corso had an admirable military record and the military is very serious about weeding out crackpots. From Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_J._Corso) :

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In 1945, Corso arranged for the safe passage of 10,000 Jewish WWII refugees out of Rome to Palestine.

During the Korean War (1950-1953), Corso performed Intelligence duties under General Douglas MacArthur as Chief of the Special Projects branch of the Intelligence Division, Far East Command. One of his primary duties was to keep track of enemy prisoner of war (POW) camps in North Korea. Corso was in charge of investigating the estimated number of U.S. and other United Nations POWs held at each camp and their treatment. At later held congressional hearings of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, Philip Corso would provide testimony that many hundreds of American POW's were abandoned at these camps.[2][3]

Corso was on the staff of President Eisenhower's National Security Council for four years (1953-1957).

In 1961, he became Chief of the Pentagon's Foreign Technology desk in Army Research and Development, working under Lt. Gen. Arthur Trudeau.

When he left military intelligence in 1963, Corso became a key aide to Senator Strom Thurmond.

In 1964, Corso was assigned to Warren Commission member Senator Richard Russell Jr. as an investigator into the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
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This is not the resume of a crackpot. In later years he did nothing to discredit himself or draw attention to himself.

When I look at the man's life I think it speaks for itself as the life of an honest, intelligent man. It also strikes me as realistic that a military man who saw these things could maintain silence his entire life but could not morally die with a secret like that. The debunking attempts were lame, based on the philosophy that this couldn't have happened and therefore didn't (not exactly an impartial scientific view).

I'm pretty sure the book was honest. The guy saw something very strange. Maybe his memory is flawed. Maybe his interpretation of what he saw was wrong. But he saw something.
Kugelblitz
QUOTE (Scudbuster @ May 3 2008, 07:16 AM) *
Stanton Friedman has blown all those feeble de-bunking efforts clear out of the water. That History Channel effort was really pathetic, if I remember it correctly.

I'll continue to side with those ex military people who have talked- not some de-bunker with an agenda, or the U.S. government and their ever changing "explanations".

Roswell was a real event- it happened.



Actually, what I find really pathetic is a religious like 'faith' in this utterly failed topic- Roswell. Stanton Friedman, nice man though he may be, is so overly committed to the 'reality' of Roswell that he could never see his way out of his current position. Books, countless TV appearances and video productions have made him a nice living thanks to Roswell. His initial surveys into Roswell were co-authored with Bill Moore a certified fabricator of evidence (see Moore's work with Charles Berlitz - the Bermuda Triangle and The Philadelphia Experiment - both books loaded with phony evidence).

The true answer to Roswell lies between the fallibilities of human memory, our need for great mysteries, and the flight testing done in the area during the mid-century era when this 'event' occurred. Of course, if you have already made up your mind that anyone that conflicts with your 'beliefs' is lying then what hope is there for you too see the truth, not just in this issue of UFO's, but in any endeavor? I would have thought that we had a common ground in seeking the truth, but that cannot be true if we are not going to allow one the opportunity to express themselves and then honestly consider what they are saying.

Roswell is truly a non-event, and I would invite you to read some of the critical literature on the topic, one was called Roswell: Inconvenient Facts (or nearly that title). You may also find books at any library that deal with the phenomenon of myth making. It is interesting reading and Roswell fits into the realm of myth perfectly (like all our religions).
NeoGenesis
I can not find any proof that what this book says is true.The main reason is the fact that he is declassifying highly secretive information right under the White Houses nous,there is a lot of controversy around these type of information so freely put in to the publics eye.I for one fails to believe that what he is telling is 100% the truth.
Scudbuster
QUOTE (Kugelblitz @ May 3 2008, 01:54 PM) *
Actually, what I find really pathetic is a religious like 'faith' in this utterly failed topic- Roswell. Stanton Friedman, nice man though he may be, is so overly committed to the 'reality' of Roswell that he could never see his way out of his current position. Books, countless TV appearances and video productions have made him a nice living thanks to Roswell. His initial surveys into Roswell were co-authored with Bill Moore a certified fabricator of evidence (see Moore's work with Charles Berlitz - the Bermuda Triangle and The Philadelphia Experiment - both books loaded with phony evidence).

The true answer to Roswell lies between the fallibilities of human memory, our need for great mysteries, and the flight testing done in the area during the mid-century era when this 'event' occurred. Of course, if you have already made up your mind that anyone that conflicts with your 'beliefs' is lying then what hope is there for you too see the truth, not just in this issue of UFO's, but in any endeavor? I would have thought that we had a common ground in seeking the truth, but that cannot be true if we are not going to allow one the opportunity to express themselves and then honestly consider what they are saying.

Roswell is truly a non-event, and I would invite you to read some of the critical literature on the topic, one was called Roswell: Inconvenient Facts (or nearly that title). You may also find books at any library that deal with the phenomenon of myth making. It is interesting reading and Roswell fits into the realm of myth perfectly (like all our religions).



Well you are well intentioned but 100% wrong. Try reading Friedman's book "Top Secret/Majic or "Don Schmidt's" recent "Witness to Roswell". Both are quite compelling with various witnesses, fact research, and analysis. Schmidt also has a multi part video available on YouTube- many of the same witnesses from his book are featured.
markshark4
Just a heads up ... The Day After Roswell is on the History Channel this Wed. night at 11:00. thumbsup.gif


UFO Hunters "The NASA Files" is on right before at 10:00. alien.gif



Has anyone here read Rule by Secrecy or Alien Agenda by Jim Marrs???
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