I heard today that the man who investigated and wrote about topics such as Area 51...and UFO topics and such has found Mary Magdalene's tomb. Her body was enshrouded with a Knights Templer shroud and buried along with items dateing back to the first century.. He has been on continual quests to uncover the truths about different matters of debate, from Jesus to UFO's etc.
Now they found proof... ANy one else hear of this too????

Please forgive the breifness of my post... Im on my way out the door for work, but wanted to get it in.

If you are going to throw this out, have some links to back it up. Come on.

Wow. Kind of scary, a guy that believes in UFO's and Jesus.

Yeah he found Area 51, Roswell, Atlantas, Bigfoot, Shangri-La, the Lost City of Gold, Planet X, and the Loch Ness Monster. Reason we don't know more about him is he can't find his shoes and make it to a press conference.

No Source ? Which man...Doesnt look good to me/ just googled and nothing came up.

I've not heard anything about this. It sounds amazing if true. However, I don't think anyone made any connections between the Knights Templar and Mary Magdalene until Dan Brown and the Da Vinci Code. And even if this were true the Knights Templar did not exist in the 1st century AD.

I do appoligise for not having more info...thats why my post is ASKING if anyone here heard anything...

All i know is on the news this morning there was a quick mention about it and I didnt catch the mans name that is doing the documentary on it.....

So far I'll take my answers as no then?

I didnt realise her body (remains) were ever lost!!

From WIKI:



LINK

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080417/lath024.html?.v=101

video.aol.com/video-detail/mary-magdalenes-tomb-/3907240202 (not sure it http:// goes in front of this one)

From what furthur I was able to find there is a movie coming out called Bloodline......do Im wrestling with the question Is this a real find or promo for movie????

Today there was supposed to be a conference held at the Jewish Museum NYC, New York


Any onput one may have would be greatly appreciated

Considering the source of the article is Cinema Libre Studio I wonder how valid their claims are. They are a company that makes documentaries for profit. It was also not a journalistic article but a press release by Cinema Libre Studio.

http://www.cinemalibrestudio.com/

Hi Warrior FTL

I have had a look at the website of the Direction Regionale des Affaires Culturelles Languedoc-Roussillon, and there is no mention of any recent finds. I think if this was genuine that they would splash it all over their pages somewhere, but, nada, nothing at all.

I think you are right that this is just a promo for a film.

Something Id love to see for sure.....

Rennes-le-Chateau Website has all the research into the mystery related to this story

Good one..... The pics that Ben Hammott has on the site are very interesting....

Im wondering how the Templars found her in order to move her so many years after to drape her in the shroud.....

I think in the 2007 finding is when he did the documentary on it...He (if its the same one) is pretty famous and has done many on the various topics that are Hot in this area... Such as Jesus, UFO's and such.. places where no one else really wants to go... I appreciate them all even the Big Foot ones etc....I just seek to find the truth about these matters and bounce around the findings...

Thanks for finding that too Keith, Clovis and Sag!ttarius!!! Blessing to you guys

Are any of you going to see the film????

Hi Warrior, from what I recall, it was found back in 2005. The mummy also is supposedly of a child, dated c.2000 years ago of Middle Eastern descent. I haven't followed the story for quite a while, so my memory is a tad foggy and my interests diverted to archeology from there on, instead of theological history. Might get interested back by this subject after seeing the movie next month, who knows...

Cheers

the knights templar may have adopted the symbol?

I haven't studied any of the detail of whether Dan Brown used "proper historical research" to pen his fiction, but several things struck me from the book (and also from Holy Blood Holy Grail): 1) the concept that Magdala actually meant "the ones who anoint;" 2) that Ieshueh was probably not from Nazareth [because Nazareth (a hick town) had not existed in Ieshueh's time - it arose later] - Ieshueh was probably a Nazrene (or Nazarite - I can't remember) (holy man chosen from birth ala Samuel or Samson (can't shave his hair, mustn't drink alcohol etc.); 3) that Ieshueh, according to the Gospels, was of the line of David - and hence had claims on the throne of Judea; 4) the concept that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute is never mentioned in the bible, and the concept only arose in the misogynistic Roman Catholic Church after several centuries (and I cannot remember the name of the Pope who started that rumor); 5) it would have been socially accepted - and almost required - that Ieshueh, a proper Jewish male following Jewish custom, should have been married (and if he wasn't married by the age of 30, society would think that there was something wrong with him); 6) Ieshueh probably spent time with the Essenes at Qumran - where the devotees' families were in attendance as the males studied and purified themselves; and etc.

I'd prefer to believe that Ieshueh was married. And I'd like to believe that he had offspring. Christians should not let these positions interfere with Ieshueh's teachings, spiritualism, or Divine messages. In fact, in my view, this imputes even more humanity onto Christos - that he lived a full life AND STILL showed an example of non-violent protest (at least according to the myth)...

1st Edit: I may be wrong or slightly wrong on some of these points as I am writing from memory. I have not gone back to check the history of Nazareth, for example, but in the past, I had come across this information in books written by bonafide historians.

2nd Edit: About Nazereth (From Wikipedia Nazereth:
"However, excavations conducted prior to 1931 in the Franciscan venerated area revealed "no trace of a Greek or Roman settlement" there,[12] and according to studies written between 1955 and 1990, no archaeological evidence from Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Hellenistic or Early Roman times have been found.[13] [14] Bagatti, the principal archaeologist at the venerated sites in Nazareth, unearthed quantities of later Roman and Byzantine artefacts,[15] attesting to unambiguous human presence there from the 2nd century AD onward.

Emmett also claims that "homes and tombs built of stone masonry with back rooms of natural or rock-hewn caves were also found that date to the Roman era (63 BC to 324 AD)."[16] However, this familiar claim that the Nazarenes were troglodytes (cave dwellers) is impossible, for "the caves of Galilee are wet or damp from December to May, and can only be used during the summer and autumn."[17]
...

Finally, Emmett claims that "In light of the archaeological data, there is speculation that Nazareth's first inhabitants could have been Canaanites, then Israelites and Galilean Jews."[16] Indeed, the Bronze-Iron Age inhabitants must have been Canaanites (pre-Israelite inhabitants of the land), but lack of archaeological evidence from Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Hellenistic or Early Roman times (see above), at least in the major excavations between 1955 and 1990, shows that Israelite presence in the basin is unsubstantiated."

<End Wiki Quote>

Basically it seems that Nazareth, as described in the New Testament, was not where it should have been (i.e. an Israeli town that would have been influenced by a Greco-Roman world). The Greco-Roman Nazareth only cropped up in the later 1st Century CE.

3rd Edit: Scratch that point 1 above about Magdala meaning "one who anoints." Magdala means "tower" or "fortress." -Can't remember where I got the annoint thing. Just been in my head for years...

There was something wrong with him, John Wayne put's it best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-Opxg8mILc...feature=related

hetrodoxly? Can you put it in prose? I live in Mongolia (and I haven't paid my internet this month). My connection is slow at best. It'd take hours to process a UTube transfer...

who is Mary Magnalin?

Typo. Gotta get used to it. The OP (original post) is about Mary Magdalene...

ahh! i get it now

I caught it. The Greatest Story Ever Told is one of my all-time favorite flicks. Did you know that Max von Sidow is the only actor ever to have portrayed the christ to have had a film career afterward? -At least until Willem Defoe in The Last Temptation... And Defoe didn't have such stellar roles afterward, either.

John Wayne: Truly this man was the son of god...
It's good theatre...

I love John wayne in Cowboy films "true grit," etc. but i can't help laughing when he say's "Truly this man was the son of god" didn't they know Jesus and the Romans had English accents.

*Edited topic title for spelling.

So did Mary Magdalene and Jesus get it on or what? Inquiring minds want to know.

That's a loaded question. The question is: Whether Ieshueh was married to Mary Magdalene (the most beloved disciple)?

Sorry, didn't realize that was a loaded question. I guess your question is did Ieshueh get it on with Mary.

I worded the question that way so as not to offend those fundamentalists who might take offense... I'd rather have an open discussion that incite anger or raging comebacks...

1st Edit: Kinda like foreplay... We shouldn't jump right into "getting it on" -at least not on the first date...

This is a pretty friendly place, I hope you don't get any raging comebacks.

Some of these threads, though. You should have been there when the "flying to the moon thread" castigated me for suggesting that JFK had become addicted to cortisone and speed - and in a hyped up delirium - committed the U.S. to "going to the moon before the end of this decade." Man, that was tough...

Anyway, back to the thread...

haven't people found jesus' tomb like 5 times already?i doubt this is mary's grave

You bet!!

Da Vinci code was a great film ( for all it's inaccuracies), but still a great adventure. Wouldnt miss this one.

Actually, Dan Brown offered almost nothing original. He stole his material from a prior book HOLY BLOOD, HOLY GRAIL that was far more academic, professional and interesting.

Your correct the Knights Templars began around 1100 AD. However, the hypothisis is they had taken her body (or what was left from where it orig was) and entombed it in France they claim..... They are doing DNA testing, but I dont know exactly just what they are suppose to match it up to...But I suppose it can reveal from what decent the body is from... So if it turns up of a Jewish decent, and here the body is showing up in France, and in the shroud of the Templars, and it is a female...It very well can add to the possibility that perhaps there just may be something behind the story or theory of The Devinci Code and may hold some truth to it after all......What other woman, at that time, would acquire such elevation to be deserving of a Templars shroud? I cant at this point quite dismiss the possibility...

However, it was the "job" of the Templars to protect "the line"..... I stilll have trouble with "why after a thousand years" did they suposedly step up to do it????

Unless it was being done all along back then and we just didnt know...and we still dont????
But his "could" be the begining of the knowing.... My only hope is for answers to the questions...Imagine what light it could shed and what doors this could open for mankind!!!!

Maybe my mind is too open to dismiss things quite yet.....Ive been exposed to some interesting things in my life to this point which keep me this way.... I err toward optimism rather than pesimissim. Its healthier.


Blessings all..Lets keep our eyes open for new developments and share what we find....

Are you going to see the Movie?

http://www.benhammott.com/tomb.html some interestnig pics on here

Mary was a pious person so why would she be buried with so much treasure, its more likely to be a tomb for some notable women maybe a cheiftens wife

Still cant find any other references to this being a genuine discovery.

It is quite disturbing if it is genuine and these people go in to loot it without a proper archaeological expedition behind it. The story of the "Spider Cavern", hmmm... very Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

Very plausable too.

Treasure? Are you talking about the pictures shown? All I saw was some cups and pitchers, nothing to write home about.

But there is no actual "Fundamentalist" objection to a married Christ. The Christian position is that Christ was sinless, but sex in marriage is NOT a sin.

And wasn't it just a year or two ago that Mary Magdalen's tomb was reportedly discovered in Israel? What do we have here - a bad case of Burial Bi-Location?

This isnt the tomb of mary magdalene, it is an intact Knights Templar tomb (1999) which is (excuse the pun) the holy grail of this particular find.

article 1

article with film clip

article with extra clips

All details are to be released in a Documentary film Bloodline later this year (2008)

Another great site found! Thank You Repo... heres a clip from the first link...article one

Bloodline Director Bruce Burgess explains there were rumours dating back to the end of the 13th Century Crusades which indicated the Templars had excavated beneath the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem, and on returning to France, had hidden some priceless relics in the area south of Carcassonne. "The relics - possibly documents, and even the embalmed remains of Jesus and Mary Magdalene - have all been speculation until now," Burgess says, and adds that "Thanks to this discovery, all that may soon change."


Clip from article/link two....


Bloodline will tell how a mini camera was used to access the chamber, featured in the clip above, while DNA tests have been done on a few hair strands from the corpse.

Bruce Burgess, director of Bloodline, said: "After the Crusades, it was rumoured that the Templars had discovered treasure underneath the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem that could debunk the Catholic church's doctrine.

"This treasure was believed to be priceless relics such as documents, the Holy Grail, even the embalmed remains of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene, which was then brought to southern France, and hidden."


Great clear picture on the third link...

I havent learned how to insert a pic yet onto this site yet.....

If it is a Knight Templar's grave and those are artifacts from Solomon's temple... oh my God.

Are those cylindrical objects lying around the body scrolls? Oh my God.

Wouldnt it be wonderful to finally shed some insight and answer questions so long left un answered...

End some arguing?????

Also keep in mind that this Ben dude has done many investigations and delved into many a contraversial thing...but also made movies about them too...so lets also hope its not a hoax and can be proven to indeed be the "real thing"...And Im not talking Coke-A- Cola here...... Aint nothing like the real thing baby.....

Im excited...Movie Bloodline was to start May 9th.... I have to look around here...

Has anyone seen it yet??????????

What could they possibly find from mtDNA? That the person was related to people in the Middle East? That wouldn't exactly narrow things down. I guess they'd get an estimate on when the person actually lived. How did they get a hair sample when they're working through a single tiny hole?

Have archeologists found many intact Knights Templar tombs?

It's hard to say which would be most fascinating... getting contemporary documents from 40 AD or watching the international fallout after the truth was revealed.

Yes, we could toss a coin...both should prove just as interesting...

I beleive they obtained sample thru the opening with some sort of device Im unaware of...
But if it shows a female and from the Mideastern region...what would it be doing in France?

Would tickle my curiosity...and mostly having a Templar shroud...
I wait in anticipation...

But why in the world would the religious authorities of mid-First Century Israel have had even the slightest interest in burying an executed criminal (as they perceived Jesus to be) and a prostitute beneath the Temple?

I'm a Christian, and I don't think Jesus was married to Mary. There is no evidence, just innuendo. However, if he was, it wouldn't bother me one bit.

I think matrimonial sex with Jesus would be a religious experience.

OK, everyone here who would react to finding Mary Magdalene's tomb by trying to make a hit movie before reporting it to a museum raise your hands.