It does'nt matter if they killed them themselves first, or ate off an already dead human corpse, they are abomination. Bye now{really}

but to look into the mind of killers is really facinating i mean why did they do it? could it have been provented like john wayne gacy

I think that most people regard MURDER as the worse sin of the two.

But even Gacy, one of the most evil serial killers of all time, didn't practice cannibalism.

But Dahmer did murder human beings in order to eat them, which is greatly different from both the South American sports team and the Donner Party.

Does'nt change the facts, that they were to cowardly to die, and committed atrocity, so they could extend their miserable lives.

They are abomination.

Dying is easy, no courage required. Living through something like the South American plane crash victims or the Donner party, now that's courage.
It must have been horrible for them to have to do what they did to live. I imagine that it affected them every day of their lives after that, I hope not, but I think it probably did.
If I'm ever in a plane crash, at the top of an icy mountain with no food and no way of getting down, you can best believe I will do whatever it takes to survive, including eating a chunk out of a dead body.
I'd have to be on the verge of death from hunger though!
OTOH, I wouldn't mind a bit if someone took what they needed off of my dead body, so they could survive. It's not like I'll be using it.


Back on topic,
I thought that Sweeney Todd was based on a true story, but on the night that I watched it, my son (who's 19 and knows everything) told me that it wasn't. So, it was a pleasant surprise to see this thread and find out that I was right.
I loved the movie, hated the musical parts, I don't like musicals anyway, but was surprised that Johnny Depp could sing!
I'm off to read the crime library link, I can't wait to hear the true story.
Great topic!

It takes more courage to die then to live in a situation were you are around cannibals who would encourage you to be like them. Yes, they are still suffering from what they did, and they will until they die. As i said, they lost an essential ingrident that is a requirement to be human, and live another life. He who is real no longer see's them, they have made themselves like the beasts, with their abomination.

The truth.

No Caana, I disagree, it doesn't take any courage at all to die. It takes courage to survive in an impossible situation.
You don't know if they are suffering or not, and neither do I, but to pass judgement on them is a sin, according to the Bible.
Matthew 7:1
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Sorry, I posted that without even knowing if you believe in the Bible or not, all of that abomination talk made me think that you do.


Back on topic, I just finished reading crime library's Sweeney Todd article, how fascinating and terrible.
I had no idea how wretched it was for the poor in London during that time. Somehow, I've always thought of London as a very civilised place. And I'm sure it is now, but back then wow, I'm glad I didn't grow up there.

your worng in the case of john wanye gacy for example his last words where kiss my ass. he was not afreid to die but it seemed more of a cowerd because he showed no remorse to die takes little you just have to think your dying for a cause.

lol i would have liked to be there just to see how it was ... i mean to meet Swenney, a crimminal and crazy man

When you know you are going to die, and the only thing that would save you from that dieing, is the eating of another human beings corpse, it takes courage to deny yourself that chance, knowing it would turn you into a reviled beast. The bible, and those who put it together, along with the weak ones who follow it, are fools, in the pockets of the beasts who enslave them.

It is no wonder they advocate the pratice of eating flesh, and the drinking of blood, even in their primitive rituals that mimick it, it just tells you were the religion came from in the first place, the beasts.

Yes, it takes more courage to die in that situation, then to live. But the beasts/religions, have made the people think it is an o.k. thing to do. After all, the beasts used to feast on the corpses of the people when they fell in battle. Lot's of edited out thing's these days, to disguise their filth.

Yes, i can judge them, they are animals/beasts for what they did. And they are suffering, i do know this, for it is Ana who makes them suffer, they want to give up their humanity to survive, then they will be treated like beasts to the end of their days, with bad luck/health following them wherever they go.

It is justice, where none was given to their victims by the religious.

I think that's the way most of us look at it.

Regarded as "reviled beast(s)" by you or by the rest of the world?

I think it's time for a poll on this one.

hmm should i make a poll?
i think if it was life or death i would so eat you

Well, out of this thread, to many potential non-human flesh eating monsters here.[really]

LOL! You're funny!! You'll be back.



LOL!I might have liked to be there for a day or two, but it seems like a really horrible place to have lived during that time.
No wonder there were people like him.



Yes, I agree that would be an interesting poll.

IHAVE MADE A POLL ENTITLED WOULD YOU OR WOULDNT YOU ITS IN GERERAL OFF TOPIC

Do you promise not to murder me for the purpose?

A thought just occurred to me - I wonder how Caana feels about surgical transplants.

After all, that is certainly one body consuming, or at least absorbing, part of another.

i guerntee nothing

ooooohhhhh

Caana, you clearly don't have an accurate understanding of the Bible. Jesus was in no way advocating Cannibalism. Most theologians agree upon this point. Do some research before presuming.

I follow Christianity, and I in no way advocate Cannibalism, and I don't think of myself as weak-minded. I graduated at the top of my class in College, and have an above average IQ. I don't mean to brag, I'm just trying to make a point that relatively intelligent and open-minded individuals can still have faith. Again, do some research before making a blanket statement that "The bible, and those who put it together, along with the weak ones who follow it, are fools, in the pockets of the beasts who enslave them." Some very great and highly intelligent minds believed in the Bible. I'm sorry, but I find your statement offensive and a tad narrow-minded.

Since it appears you have a very limited view of the Last Supper and the Eucharist, I doubt any amount of explanation will help at this point. I just ask that you practice a bit more tolerance in other's religious beliefs.

I also think cannibalism is offensive, and I doubt I could make a choice like that in a life-or-death situation. But I won't get up on my soap box and condemn those who actually lived a horrible, live threatening experience that put them in that position. It is not for me to judge what was in their hearts and souls at that time. I'll let God deal with that--He's a much more intelligent, loving and forgiving being than I.

i think we are animals and even your god would understand

I am OBSESSED with Sweeney Todd.

Not just the films, but the whole history thing, this dude actually lived.

lol im also quite obsessed thats what lead me to research him and this is what i came up with

We don't see enough Sweeney Todd stuff any more, its quite sad really
I think he was a very clever guy for the things he made, like the chair for example.

Also very twisted. Mhm.

yes very twisted

I never did really learn anything about Mrs Lovett though...and im sure i cant spell :S

she was real too and her name actually was mrs lovett lol