I know the number 11 is often regarded as having "special" qualities sometimes...Well, I found this on myspace, stupid chain bulliten...But it caught my eye, and I decided to post it here...Enjoy...Btw, the part about Microsoft word, it's really freeaaakkky...Don't skip thta step, do it...



Now liste​n to me, Read throu​gh all of this,​ and don'​t stop till you hit the botto​m,​ or you'​ll regre​t it


UNITE​D WE STAND​
1) New York City has 11 lette​rs

2) Afgha​nista​n has 11 lette​rs.























3) Rasmi​n Yuseb​ (The terro​rist who threa​tened​ to destr​oy the Twin Tower​s in 1993)​ has 11 lette​rs.
























4) Georg​e W Bush has 11 lette​rs.
























5) The two twin tower​s make an "11"

This could​ be a mere coinc​idenc​e,​ but this gets more inter​estin​g:​

2) The first​ plane​ crash​ing again​st the Twin Tower​s was fligh​t numbe​r
11.



























3) Fligh​t 11 was carry​ing 92 passe​ngers​.


























9 + 2 = 11



4) Fligh​t 77 which​ also hit Twin Tower​s,​ was carry​ing 65 passe​ngers​.
























6+5 = 11



5) The trage​dy was on Septe​mber 11, or 9/11 as it is now known​.

























9 + 1+ 1 = 11



6) The date is equal​ to the US emerg​ency servi​ces telep​hone numbe​r 911.



























9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

























Sheer​ coinc​idenc​e.​.























​?​!​ Read on and make up your own mind:​
1) The total​ numbe​r of victi​ms insid​e all the hi-​jacke​d plane​s was 254. >2 + 5 + 4 = 11.




























2) Septe​mber 11 is day numbe​r 254 of the calen​dar year.


















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Again​ 2 + 5 + 4 = 11










3) The Madri​d bombi​ng took place​ on 3/​11/​2004.​ 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11.


























4) The trage​dy of Madri​d happe​ned 911 days after​ the Twin Tower​s
incid​ent.

























Sheer​ coinc​idenc​e.​.























​?​!​ Read on and make up your own mind:​
Now this is where​ thing​s get total​ly eerie​:​



The most recog​niZed​ symbo​l for the US, after​ the Stars​ & Strip​es,​ is the Eagle​.

























The follo​wing verse​ is taken​ from the Quran​,​ the Islam​ic
holy book:​

"For it is writt​en that a son of Arabi​a would​ awake​n a fears​ome Eagle​.​ The wrath​ of the Eagle​ would​ be felt throu​ghout​ the lands​ of Allah​ and lo, while​ some of the peopl​e tremb​led in despa​ir still​ more rejoi​ced:​ for the wrath​ of the Eagle​ clean​sed the lands​ of Allah​ and there​ was peace​.

















"









That verse​ is numbe​r 9.11 of the Quran​.























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Still​ uncov​inced​ about​ all of this.​.























​?​!​ Try this and see how you feel after​wards​,​ it made my hair stand​ on end:


Open Micro​soft Word and do the follo​wing,​ TRY THIS FOR REAL I DID IT AND IT SCARE​D THE LIVIN​G CRAP OUT OF MEE!​!​!​!​!​!​!​



1. Type in capit​als Q33 NY.
























This is the fligh​t numbe​r of the first​
plane​ to hit one of the Twin Tower​s.



























2. Highl​ight the Q33 NY.






























3. Chang​e the font size to 48.





























4.

















Chang​e the actua​l font to the WINGD​INGS{​scari​est part of all}










Extre​mely scary​ huh?


NOW REPOS​T THIS WITHI​N 911 SECON​DS WITH THE TITLE​ "​Weird​ 9/11 facts​ " OR YOUR FAMIL​Y'​S NEXT PLANE​ TRIP WILL BE SHORT​ER THAN EXPEC​TED

I just dont know..BOO YA

So now we are to this "spam" crap? Where are we supposed to repost this at? A pretty janky thread...to say the least.

The Q33NY story is known to be untrue, which throws some of the more dubious "conincidences" into question. But try typing in "nyc" with the Webdings font.

And now, more 9/11 creepy coincidences in movies!

Independence day, the nuclear bomb clock stops at... 9.11
End of Days, the climax of the movie sees the clock at 11:09 31 december 1999

I am Legend, End of the World scenario of 2012 set in Manhattan, he lives at 11 11, K being the 11th letter in the alphabet, this is a double K, something strange to note about this...

Take a gander at these, and tell me you dont see 11 11 within the K's, creepy, no?

The Hudsucker Proxy(cohen brothers), as the clock reaches 1959 in manhattan, a large 9 sits in the corner, as the second's hand passes the 11.

A 1st degree masonic tracing board...

Poster for the movie World Trade Center...

and United 93...

As you can see in these two posters, there is a concentration of light emphasized in the middle pillars, the masonic board holds the eye above the middle pillar...
Coincidence?

Is it still coincidence that there were 3 buildings destroyed in 9/11?

The movie, Escape from New York, kurt russell lands on top of the world trade center, and wouldn't you know it, the poster reveals...

mind you this was from the 80's. And now, i give you, the Rabbit hole...

The Pyramids of Giza stand one taller than the other, and one much lower. According to speculation concerning the various rituals performed in and around these pyramids, it is believed that thousands of people would circle them as part of religious ceremony. During the Hodge, in the Muslim faith, this same ritual can be seen as thousands of people circle the Grand Mosque of Mecca, as the centerpiece is the spherical stone of the Kaaba.
This means little, until you realize that the WTC plaza was built to mimic the pyramids of Giza, with as its centerpiece a sphere, set to rotate every 24 hours...
Coincidence? I think not.

The "kings chamber" of the pyramids of Giza is a cuboid room, the arc of the covenant also is of cuboid shape, along with the most commonly known representation, The Temple of Solomon, with its cuboid 'holiest of holies'...
Interesting to note that the above Masonic board is "supposed" to be a representation of Solomons temple, as Solomons Temple was founded after the Israelites Exodus(where they had to build their own Giza, so to speak)

The two pillars of Solomons Temple Boaz and Joachim, and, within them the "blazing" or morning star.

Is it a coincidence that the pentagon, a physical representation of the 5-pointed star played a part in the actual events?
Ill let yall decide...

there's this film called zeitgeist and part 2 of the film is about the 9/11 conspiracy, but i dont think it said anything about the freaky coincidences about the number. but it does say that it is a plot by the government as a way to go to war with the middle east and make money

I stopped and didn't regret it

I'll admit the wingdings trick at the end is pretty freaky.

That is creepy, can that even be coincidental?

This is a fun thread and when I first got this as a chain e-mail it was fun then too. I never did the actual wing ding thingy bit but zomg oh noes that is eerily freaky indeed @_@



When I first received the chain letter I looked it up and snopes says, among other things, that there is no such reference in the Qur'an and also there was no flight Q33 NY.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/coincidence.asp

Jus thought I should post it here...Ignore the part bout the "repost", it's originally a chainmail...And, I didn't write it, so don't critisize me for this...

Noone seems to mind that the WTC buildings that were destroyed are in the same alignment as Giza? WTC7's collapse is not explained, and lies as the middle pillar?

EDIT: Mind you the WTC buildings WERE the financial pillars of the world?

OMG ANOTHER COINCIDENCE!

I JUST LOOKED AT MY CLOCK! AND SOMETHING FREAKY JUST HAPPENED!@!@!@! YOULL NEVER BELIEVE IT!!!!

ITS....

9:11!!!!!!


NO WAI!
SRSLY!

i just lol'd

does it have to be reposted with all the annoying space in between?

Pure, mildly insulting rubbish. Someone obviously worked fairly hard to find as many referrences to 11 as possible. Now the real challenge would be to find all the details that don't add up to 11.

The number 11 or any other number for that matter could be associated to any event in history any number of times given enough time and research and in part manipulation. For instance George W Bush's full name is George Walker Bush, but oh that is longer than 11 letters. It is easy to make an abbreviation to fit this.

The Windings thing is old, pure coincidence unless you are suggesting it was Microsoft that were responsible for 9/11.



Allignment to what? What are you talking about?

Yes, we all know you can find lots of examples of a particular number if you don't outline the rules of the game to begin with, you don't introduce a control number for comparison, and you're not afraid to make stuff up when you realise that there's still not enough examples to be impressive.

There are, after all, eleven letters in 'that's stupid' too.

And 'pareidolia'.*




Just in case anyone's tempted to send that very, very long forward to anyone else (especially me), help is at hand.









*See, I can make stuff up as well

QURAN 9:11 - But ( even so ), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practice regular charity, they are your brethren in faith: ( Thus ) do we explain the signs in detail, for those who understand.

now the interesting thing about this passage ( direct quote by the way ) is the discussion that mohammed makes about the pegan followers. ( can be anyone, of any faith, but refers to those who reject god, or do not hold to their word )
and like the bible, if you take it out of context you can make it sound like whatever you want it to say.
the signs that are spoken of have nothing to do with 9:11 or any conspiracy crap.
it is merrly a mention of a covennant ( mentioned in 9:12, as a promise you make to yourself or god, and hold true to your word ), and the method of practicing faith, the means of praying and being faithfull. ( being an upstanding, honest person )

i will quote further.

9:1 - a declaration of imunity from god and his apostle, to those of the pegans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances.
9:2 - Go ye then for four months, backwards and forwards ( as ye will ) throughout the land, but know ye that ye cannot frustrate god ( by your falsehood ) but that god will cover with shame those who reject him.
9:3 - And an announcment from god and his apostile, to the people ( assembled ) on the day of great pilgramege, that god and his apostle dissolve ( treaty ) obligations with the pegans. if then ye repent, it will be best for you, but if you turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate god. and procalim a greivouse penalty to those who reject faith.
9:4 - ( but the treaties are ) not dissolved with thiose pegans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have subsequently failled you in aught, nor aided in anyone against you. so fullfill your engagements with them to the end of their term: for god loveth the rightous.

it goes on but you get the idea. this part of the quran is speaking of a point in history long past, and really has no relevance to the events of the day ( today) other then a way of dealling with people ( in buisness and personal ) as in always doing what you say you will do.

the brethren in faith part, i love this.

it dosn't matter how you believe in god or what your faith is ( christian, jew, hindi, sike, whatever ) we are all of the same flesh and have our own paths to find in this world, however you chose to follow the word of god ( or not ), it is your right to chose your path.

i love how christians dont get this.

i will stop before i get into a religous rant here.

as you can see it is the uneducated that make false quotes in the name of generating hype for their cause. and like sheep, lots of people follow, not doing their own research as to what is really being said in the quotes. there are so many missquotes from the quaran. thats why i decided to read it, and understand it for myself. i am not a muslim or christian or anything. i follow my own path.

but i do educate myself.

hmm, a little bit of a rant when i just wanted to point out that the quote from the quran is false in the first place.
ah but it never hurts to have further understanding of a religion that the propaganda machine is trying to make into an enemy.

I understand your point, but not sure why you choose to single out Christians.

If the freaks that blew up the trade centers had bothered to read their own dogma, would they have committed these atrocities? I'd assume they 'don't get it either'.

I'd say that regardless of their professed believes.

Bigotry towards any religious group, even if it is the majority, is still bigotry.

ALL religions have people that miss the forest for the trees...It's much more convenient for the majority of people to hide behind their beliefs, picking and choosing the ones that benefit them at the time.



Anyhow, the original post is goofy....why bother putting this crap up at all, if you won't take responsiblity for spreading it???

i agree, and i try not to single out any one group.
christianity has so many subgroups ( jehovas, mormons, seventh day adventists, catholics, the list goes on ) that cant even get along or agree with each other.

it is unfortunate that there is parts and ideologies in the quaran that condone such actions.
but it is the extreemists that partake in such things.
there are extreemists in all groups ( jehovas and mormons that come to your door "recruting" for their faith ) seventh day adventisits are more polite about it, they wont come to your door, but they believe that they are completely right in their interpritation ( yes i have been to bible studies at seventh day adventists churches, as i have friends that have been "converted".
i guess that i am biased towards christians ( partly because of the history and my ancestry )

but i was trying to point out that the supposed quote from the quaran was not at all acurate.

and the post to begin with is goofy

sorry if i went off on a tangent and offended, it was not my intent.

Hmm,
11 is one of those #'s that seems to have controversy , significant occurrences, and or creepy coincidences, surrounding it for some time now. Like the #23. Much like the movie 23 and others making connections to it, I find it interesting that there seems to be no CLEAR method to their madness or formula. I very briefly studied Numerology and yes, they do have different methods to use when doing things. However, when working on a specific subject/topic, ect... , I don't think they go through and use different formulas w/ other formulas just to suit their desired outcome. For example: They wouldn't use the entire name for one comparison in an analyzation, and then use only the first and last name for the second comparison/calculation in that analyzation just to arrive to the desired result on the very next line. In other words: they wouldn't compare George Bush to Osama Binladin and then compare Barak Hussain Obama to Hillary Rhodam Clinton on the very next line. If They used 2 names on the first line, they would follow suit and use 2 names on the second line. Being consistent in your examination helps to get a more accurate analysis. If you aren't consistent, you are simply manipulating your analysis to arrive at the outcome you desire. Are you not? If I am wrong on this, please correct me. As I said, I have only briefly studied numerology.

So, on the surface, much of this does seem strange. But as someone pointed out... If you try hard enough you can find stuff about any # to suit your needs. I doubt these facts all followed a consistent formula. I'd bet in fact that if one formula didn't work, they fooled around till they found one that did.

And may I ask: What does Q stand for in Q33? Someone has already said there is no such flight but I'd like to know what the maker of this Doc had in mind when doing this part.

Anyway, #'s can be fun. But they can be manipulated too. We shouldn't get obsessive about these things. Especially when parts of these coincidences (like the Koran verses) are blatant lies that can easily be debunked w/ a simple Google search.

star****

I want you all to google "magical thinking". Please.

i wont comment on other "facts" but the quranic reference is wrong ...... i guess somebody was really trying hard .... i guess it is already mentioned

9 /11 i believe was a set up by the u.s goverment so that they could justify invading iraq , so they could get there hands on there oil supplies. a third buliding also collapsed across the way from the twin towers 5 mins or so after the first one was struck but you never get to hear about it!
watch the loose change video on it. a blatent set up and i cant believe people think otherwise. and its very scary to think a goverment would do this to its own people over some oil!

Hi Hocus, welcome to the forum

If so, it wasn't very well thought out - the 9/11 atrocity was never really claimed to have any links to Iraq, and was therefore scant justification for that invasion.


Have you ever looked into the other side of it, or did you just uncritically accept the stuff in the Loose Change film?

I'd suggest you have a look over at screwloosechange for an introduction to some of the lies and distortions in that video.

Don't get me wrong, I'm strongly of the opinion that oil was very much on the agenda in the Iraq war; it's just that there's no convincing evidence that the US government was in any way competent to do what the LC mob claims, nor of any motive which would justify such an act. To put it bluntly, there was no 9/11 conspiracy other than that perpetrated by the terrorists who flew the planes into the buildings.

isnt it convienent how the buldings fell down like a controlled demolitlion? or how puffs of smoke came out the buliding seconds before it collapsing (detenation) . or how the towers were supposed to be able to withstand anything? the fuel would not melt those gurders! im sorry theres too many lies and things that dont add up in the offical story like the plane that supposedly flew into the pentagon but isnt on cctv and the hole in the side of the pentagon isnt big enough for a small plane and was said to look more like it was done by a missile.
explain them nucular?

This probably isn't the thread to begin a full-on debate like this; but I think you answered my question as to whether you'd bothered to look into the other side of the debate, or if you just uncritically accepted the information presented in the LC film. There are good answers to all of your questions if you would but look; I gave you a starting-point, where you'd have found a wealth of information and a link to other websites such as www.debunking911.com and www.911myths.com, but perhaps you're as uninterested in the other side of the debate as the LC crowd is.

Anyway,


No; here and here you'll find a wealth of information, including computer modelling and extremely detailed studies of the makeup of the towers and the effects of the impacts which demonstrate why they fell the way they did.


Or are they dust clouds from the start of the collapse, as the floors began to concertina into one another? Sensible discussion can be found here.


The towers were not designed to 'withstand anything'; they were designed to be able to cope with most foreseeable events. Indeed, this did include the impact of a jet airliner; in the imagined scenario, a 707 low on fuel may fail to reach the airport and crash into one of the towers. However, long story short, the planes which did hit were much larger than a 707, full of fuel and were going at a much greater speed than the original scenario anticipated. Long story long, here.


And indeed, probably did not. However, this lengthy discussion does examine the claims in minute detail, and makes important points such as the fact that metals lose around 50% of their strength at 60% of their melting temperature, and asks whether the things claimed by conspiracy theorists to be examples of melting steel really are. They aren't.


The event was caught on CCTV, which can be downloaded here and here, though the plane itself is not clearly recorded due to the low framerate. If there was no other evidence that a plane hit, perhaps this would be suspicious; however, a quick look at some of the sites I've linked to will show that there's overwhelming evidence that one did. In addition, this video analysis/computer simulation of the events at the Pentagon makes a fair case that the plane was recorded on one of the CCTV tapes, and puts together an amazing reconstruction of the path of the plane.


Notwithstanding the inaccuracy of the data as presented in the LC film, here you'll find a discussion of the actual damage to the Pentagon, and how it is entirely consistent with an impact by a plane the size of a 757.


Okay, I've gone through those ones briefly; but I hope I've shown that there is a ton of information about this stuff available, and that it is easily and freely accessible. It's important, if one is forming opinions about issues which may cause quite some offence as 9/11 (but also, imo, when forming any opinion) to check out both sides of the argument. Otherwise, your brain just becomes a base for the first idea to come along, which nests and defends its new territory against any competing ideas - hardly a sign of an open mind... more open-and-shut, with no room for thought.

Are we reading too much into this?