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brahman1888
I have always found the readings of Edgar Cayce to be of keen interest, and that they provide a deep spiritual insight. As I've noted before I'm a member of the ARE. But I do not think that he was infallible, nor did he ever claim to be himself; as a matter of fact he made statements to the contrary. In looking at his vast body of work, one can easily see that some of his predictions have come true, while others have clearly not, nor will they ever. One of the most noteworthy predictions of his, was the eventual discovery of the Hall Of Records, in one of three locations, that was chronicled by the lost Atlantean civilization, detailing both their history, and the origin of man itself. It is certainly a controversial claim, but at the same time absolutely worthy of investigation, to if nothing else, prove the falsehood of the claim. Still, with the accuracy of so many of his other readings, I cannot help but think they could possibly exist. Below is a post from the edgarcayce.org regarding this topic, as well as a video link with an Edgar Cayce scholar. Skeptics will most likely dismiss this out of hand, but I am curious to know what others think, especially those who know something about Cayce, or those who study alternative history. Could they be out there? Will we find them? Also, if anyone has some info. on this subject, feel free to post it here, as I couldn't find anything more recent.

Taken From edgarcayce.org:

Update on Research on Cayce's Three Hall of Records

Cayce’s Three Atlantean Halls of Record were located in Egypt near the Sphinx, underwater in the Bimini area, and in the Yucatan area possibly near the ancient Maya city of Piedras Negras (Spanish for Black Rocks) in Guatemala. The latter location was not specifically named in the readings, but from clues and details given in several readings, researchers in the 1930s determined Piedras Negras to be the correct location. The Cayce readings state that the records were saved prior to the final destruction of Atlantis around 10,500 B.C. Stone tablets, linens, gold, and other artifacts are stored in the Halls. The records relate the entire history of humanity including the beginnings “when the Spirit took form or began the encasements” in physical bodies in the ancient lands of Mu and Atlantis. They also contain information about the ancient practice of building pyramids. An update on the status of each follows:

Egypt - The Giza Plateau

In Egypt, A.R.E. members Joe Jahoda and Dr. Joseph Schor have been unable to obtain permission to do further additional radar analysis of the 25 x 40 foot underground cavern that they discovered near the Sphinx in 1997. NASA scientists verified the cavern and Jahoda and Schor were allowed to do limited drilling in order to drop cameras down for a better look. Although the cavity appeared to be a natural formation, it made what may be an unnatural, 90-degree turn. Tentative approval was given for a more sophisticated radar analysis to be done in 1999. Due to a bureaucratic snafu, the permits were not approved. In a July 2001 article on the web site of the National Geographic Society, Zahi Hawass, Director General of the Giza Plateau, is said to have recently “urged other archaeologists to join him in a two year moratorium on all excavations in the area from Giza to Aswan.” The only explanation given is Hawass’ concern for the preservation of the existing monuments.

During the summer of 2001, two French archaeologists claimed to have located entrances to hidden chambers in the Great Pyramid of Khufu. Their discoveries were reported in an ABC Online News Service. The French researchers used computerized architectural data from Egyptian funeral designs as well as a technique called macrophotography to analyze hundreds of meters of walls within the pyramid. Although the two men are calling for a joint French-Egyptian effort to uncover the chambers, the response from other Egyptologists, both French and Egyptian, has been less enthusiastic. Zahi Hawass has responded emphatically that he is unaware of any evidence for hidden chambers or cavities in the Great Pyramid.

The National Geographic Society’s follow-up study of the so-called “door” found at the far end an air shaft leading from the Queen’s chamber in the Great Pyramid was due to commence in March of 2000. It has been repeatedly postponed with no reason given. This pyramid has just recently been reopened to the public. It was closed over the past year for repairs as part of a routine rotation and cleaning schedule involving all the pyramids at Giza. Given the great amount of publicity surrounding the airshaft door, the lack of follow-up is mysterious in itself. (The shafts have since been probed with more mysterious doors found.)

In 2004, Zahi Hawass announced that the University of Birmingham (UK) was performing an extensive ground-penetrating radar study of the area between the Sphinx and Great Pyramid to find the tunnels and chambers there. Hawass also related that the tunnel under the Sphinx had not been fully cleared of debris.

Yucatan Hall of Records - Piedras Negras

After 4 seasons of exploration at the ancient Maya site of Piedras Negras, Brigham Young University archaeologists have decided not to return. Instead, they plan to take the materials they have excavated over previous seasons and study them in the laboratory. The project was originally slated to last 5 years and no definitive reason is given for the decision to retreat to the laboratory. However, in the most recent report, Stephen Houston and Hector Escobedo hint at the “taxing” nature of the site itself. Located deep within the Guatemala jungle, Piedras Negras can only be accessed by 2-days of travel via rugged mountain “roads” then by canoe over white water rapids. Because the site is located in a rainforest, it is only feasible to work there in the dry seasons — roughly March through June. Even then, the weather is hot and humid and the remoteness of the site requires the most primitive camping conditions. The remoteness and primitive conditions combined with the nearby camps of several guerilla groups have helped to protect the site from widespread looting.

During the final season (Spring 2000), BYU focused efforts into probing some of the oldest pyramids located at the site. One of these appears to have a sublevel built during the PreClassic Maya era — around 400-600 B.C. Due to the unstable nature of the building materials, they were unable to completely penetrate to the core of the building. This portion of the site (South Group) and the Acropolis area are the most likely locations for the Hall of Records according to clues given by Cayce in the readings. Additional excavations were performed during 2000 within the Acropolis and, as in the past, were hampered by large piles of debris left at the site by the University of Pennsylvania’s digs in the 1930s.

The most outstanding find of the season was a 3000 lb. carved stone panel, which had been attached to a large pyramid. It was apparently thrown down the steps at some point in the distant past landing upside down in front of the Acropolis complex. It is the most complete hieroglyphic text uncovered at the site in 65 years. Although some of the carvings are eroded, archaeologists skilled in interpreting the hieroglyphs have determined that it contains the life story of Piedras Negras’ Ruler 2. This ruler was of the Turtle Clan and was named after the founding Father god of the Maya, Itzamna. Although the panel was carved well after the 10,000 B.C. Hall of Records period (it is dated to around 600 A.D), it does contain a reference to the Maya sacred creation date for the “Fourth World” (3114 B.C.) linking some of the events of the life of Ruler 2 to that time frame. Given that the Ruler also carries the name of Itzamna, there may be more to the purpose of the panel than the archaeologists are able to determine at this time. The study of Maya hieroglyphics is still in its infancy and even now it is understood that their writing style was very sophisticated and carried multiple levels of meaning.

Although abandoning their effort for the moment, BYU concedes that there is still much that is not understood about the site and that more excavation needs to be done. Given that the Guatemala government has utilized American funded projects such as this to help rebuild these sites and prepare them for tourist contact, chances are there will be future activity at Piedras Negras. This has already happened as the University of Pennsylvania has now announced that they will perfom site investigations at Piedras Negras in 2004. In addition, Greg and Lora Little will be making an expedition to Piedras Negras in 2004 to make a video documentary.

Bimini

Much exploration has been done in the area of the Bimini Islands since the discovery of the so-called Bimini Road in 1968. The Cayce readings had predicted the discovery of ruins in that area during that year. According to the readings, Bimini was near the place where the largest Atlantean island sank around 10,000 B.C. Since the discovery of the “road,” aerial photographic surveys have turned up several other unusual underwater formations. Some of these are pentagon-shaped and others resemble building foundations. Shipwreck debris scattered all over the area has confused the issue bringing some less than scientific and greatly sensationalized claims of “proof of Atlantis.” These claims are easily debunked and ridiculed by the scientific community.

Sampling of the stone found in the road formation has also turned up conflicting evidence. Samples taken in the 1970s by the U.S. Geological Survey concluded that the road was simply a natural beach rock formation. In 1997 Dr. Joan Hanley of the Gaea Project reported that the content of the rocks varied geologically to the point that they could not have been located side by side naturally. One of the most exiting discoveries, however, was a series of effigy sand mounds shaped like a shark, dolphin and alligator within the Bimini mangrove swamps. The mounds align primarily with the stars Sirius, Rigel, Vega, and Capella in about A.D. 1000. Ground penetrating radar has failed to locate any artifacts under the mounds although the high water table may have created a barrier.

The 1990s also brought the discovery of an additional large stone formation south of Bimini similar to the road found in 1968. Project Alta, a side-scan sonar search of the area south of Bimini, reported in 1993 the discovery of a 35-foot wide hexagonal feature as well as some unusual right angles, concentric circles, and triangular-shaped features. In 1998 and 1999 donations were received by the Gaea Project to do sonar analysis on the ocean floor near the location of the Bimini road off the Bahama ridge. Other investigations have since been done looking for possible ruins near the Gulf Stream, but results have been inconclusive.

Recent Investigations

In 2002 the ARE and the EFC funded a satellite imaging project of 630 sq km around Bimini. The imaging found over a dozen mysterious circles just to the south of Bimini. In 2003, Greg and Lora Little examined several of these circles and found that they are natural or of recent origin and not worthy of more investigation. In addition, the discovery of the underwater platform at Andros and a nearby area with what appear to be paving stones may have some connection to the Hall of Records.

In 2003, the Littles also performed several expeditions to Andros to investigate enigmatic underwater structures first spotted from the air in 1968 and 1969. Links to these reports can be found here. One of the most intriguing discoveries at Andros was unexpected. A gigantic three-tiered stone platform was found in shallow water off the coast. In April 2003, the ARE released a press release on this find.


the video link is: www.mysterious-america.net/yucatanhallclips.html
WARRIOR FOR THE LIGHT
According to Cayce, prior to the destruction of Atlantis, Atlantean priests made three identical sets of records and artifacts that they wanted to be preserved. These can be viewed as similar to modern time-capsules. Three separate groups were then charged with traveling to widely separated places where they were to construct chambers to house the records. The chambers were supposed to be made in such a manner that they could withstand the tests of time as well as natural disasters. In addition, the chambers were supposed to be hidden in such a way that individuals could not accidentally stumble upon them. That is, they were constructed so that access could be gained only by a deliberate effort to find them—when the time and technology was right.

One was the possibility of being under the sphinx, the other Bimini, and the last the pedris Negras. He (Cayce) also claimed that in the 1930's, it, the 3rd, was located at the place where the Philidelphia archiology department was currently doing an excavation. (must be the Pedris Negras )...

It would have been prudent and wise to have placed them in three different places.

I think Caycee was pretty accurate in his predictions and thus giving quite a bit of reliability to him. I wouldnt go so far as to say 100% though. But I respect him just as well.... There is not one seer that is always 100% on the money...Not one. And none Ive ever met anyways!

Very good post Brahman1888...

Razer
Even if Cayce's prediction of the Hall of Records is incorrect, I would think it is still possible to find something like it. There could be a yet unkown great civilization that existed which had the foresight to try and preserve their knowledge in some as yet unkown location for future civilizations. Maybe it is unlikely, but it is a possibility.
MoonPrincess
The Hall of Records is pretty interesting. I wonder if it does really exist.

I hope so. Because it'll be cool that all that work under The Sphinx will worth it.
keithisco
You do realise that if Harte reads this thread then you will be in for a whole world of intellectual hurt ? And just mentioning Cayce is likely to bring down the rest of the "investigative team" to the feast.... cool.gif
wolfknight
Each to his own opinion. I hope some of Cayce writing come true.
Harte
QUOTE (keithisco @ May 7 2008, 11:21 AM) *
You do realise that if Harte reads this thread then you will be in for a whole world of intellectual hurt ? And just mentioning Cayce is likely to bring down the rest of the "investigative team" to the feast.... cool.gif


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Been reading it Keith.

Waiting on you, buddy.

QUOTE (wolfknight @ May 7 2008, 11:37 AM) *
I hope some of Cayce writing come true.


Hope in one hand and defecate in the other.

Let me know which one fills up first.

Harte
wolfknight
QUOTE (Harte @ May 7 2008, 02:28 PM) *
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Been reading it Keith.

Waiting on you, buddy.



Hope in one hand and defecate in the other.

Let me know which one fills up first.

Harte

Screw off HARTE. You enjoy destroying everything. And what people think.
Harte
QUOTE (wolfknight @ May 7 2008, 01:36 PM) *
Screw off HARTE. You enjoy destroying everything. And what people think.

Read my signature re people "thinking."

Harte
Ncohearnt
I once read that Cayce gave an exact location of where it would be found and where to look for the Hall of Records, Specifically Cayce indicated that the Yucatan Hall of Records could be found where stones were being uncovered during 1933 by the University of Pennsylvania (Penn). Cayce further stated that the Atlantean "firestone" emblem, a sundial, and several altars would also be found at this location by the University of Pennsylvania. From 1931 until 1939 Penn archaeologists were excavating in the remote jungle covered site of Piedras Negras. If you follow the link here http://www.famsi.org/research/piedras_negras/u_penn/ and download the PDF at the bottom of the page it is everything about penn finds during that time. Just another fun fact
Piedras Negras means "black stones" in Spanish. Its name in the language of the Classic Maya has been read in Maya inscriptions as Yo'k'ib', meaning "great gateway" or "entrance" considered a possible reference to a large and now dry sinkhole nearby was it the great entrance of the hall of records was the sinkhole where it was? I am very interested in Altantis and the Hall of Record and every other ancient mystery. Maybe someday someone will have the answers to all of our questions, but until then its fun to think about the unknown. Nobodys theories are wrong until proven, and if you want to know bad enough make it happen.
Moonie2012
It's a wonderful thought, but I don't think we will ever find them. Either they don't exist, or they have already been plundered.
kmt_sesh
QUOTE (Harte @ May 7 2008, 01:44 PM) *
Read my signature re people "thinking."

Harte


It's really quite amazing what people fall for, isn't it, Harte? laugh.gif

People still seem to grasp on to "evidence" of vast chambers beneath the Sphinx and cite non-existent news reports or actual reports that have been grossly distorted to try to prove a point. For instance, there do indeed seem to be natural cavities in the limestone bedrock below the Sphinx, but unless the Lost Library consists of three or four books these cavities aren't going to lead to much. And there are the two French scientists mentioned in the original post who supposedly found entrances to "hidden chambers" in the Great Pyramid. As I recall, Zahi Hawass did not allow these two theorists to conduct their experiment at all; it had little if any scientific merit, and so nothing was accomplished, period. (It's possible I'm confusing these two Frenchmen with two others, but I'm pretty sure they're the same guys.)

The original post correctly cites the moratorium on excavations in Egypt, although it hints at some conspiratorial, sinister agenda on the part of Hawass by saying: "The only explanation given is Hawass’ concern for the preservation of the existing monuments." I'm a docent at the Oriental Institute in Chicago, which is the home base for the Chicago House and its Epigraphic Survey in the area of Luxor, Egypt. The staff of the Chicago House is but one of many scholarly organizations in Egypt that has put some of its work on hold in order to join in the desperately needed conservation efforts taking place throughout the Nile Valley. Rising water tables, leaching salts, and a damper modern climate have wreaked havoc on many priceless monuments. But even calling it a "moratorium" is a bit of an exaggeration. There are still plenty of excavations occurring at historic sites throughout Egypt, but Hawass has wisely curtailed the frenetic pace of excavations to concentrate on conservation efforts.

Mind you, I am by no means a great fan of Zahi Hawass, but one must give credit where credit is due.

You will never see me cite Edgar Cayce to prove an historical point. Yes, the man was charismatic and wrote some interesting stuff, but none of it pertaining to Egypt is historically relevant or reliable. If one reads Cayce at all, it should be for literary enjoyment, period.

In fact I sort of do believe the Hall of Records existed. It was the Great Library of Alexandria, the focal point for wisdom and science in all of the Mediterranean world in the Classical period. The greatest minds in that period studied there. We need look no farther than that, and its destruction was one of our world's greatest losses.
Harte
Kmt_sesh,

You may start singing a different tune once Hawass starts forcing you and the Field Museum to give back all those relics you done stole out of Egypt!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Harte
kmt_sesh
tongue.gif Nah. I'd just kick him in the nads and be done with it.
Harte
QUOTE (kmt_sesh @ May 8 2008, 12:10 PM) *
tongue.gif Nah. I'd just kick him in the nads and be done with it.

That would require a rather large foot!

Harte
The Maharaja
Yeah but he really deserves it,Hawass is almost as big a ego-maniac as me devil.gif
kmt_sesh
QUOTE (The Maharaja @ May 10 2008, 02:16 PM) *
Yeah but he really deserves it,Hawass is almost as big a ego-maniac as me devil.gif


Well, are you implying that you need a good kick in the...

Just kidding, Maharaja! laugh.gif
The Maharaja
QUOTE (kmt_sesh @ May 10 2008, 10:14 PM) *
Well, are you implying that you need a good kick in the...

Just kidding, Maharaja! laugh.gif

Hmm i should probably think a bit more before i post laugh.gif
BNS
Yes it would
brahman1888
I am in no way convinced that they do exist; only curious. While many of his readings can stand the test of time, others, such as his prophecies, seem to miss the mark quite often. He did accurately predict some things, however, such as the discovery of the Essenes. With 2012 around the corner, and this supposed passing of an age, and a new era of spirtiual enlightenment coming, the time would be ripe to find them, as Cayce noted they would not be discovered until we had reached a certain level of spiritual awareness. I feel, that if the 2012 stuff isn't bunk, nor the Records, well, there could be a connection.

Who knows? It may not be true, nevertheless, I hope they keep looking until it is as at least proven beyond shadow of a doubt that there is no credibility to these readings.
reverb2000
The library is in the paws of the sphinx..they have done test (I think with sound) and found that there are cavities in the paws. To excavate in Egypt, you have to reapply ever so ofter (6months I think) with the govermentfor a permit/visa extension etc. When people are denied, some say the Egyptian gov takes over and convertly digs.excavates or whatever in order to sercure their national treasure. I have seen some pictures that seem to show the Egypt Gov is digging under ground to reach alot of the pyramids and the sphinx.
brahman1888
QUOTE (reverb2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 07:26 PM) *
The library is in the paws of the sphinx..they have done test (I think with sound) and found that there are cavities in the paws. To excavate in Egypt, you have to reapply ever so ofter (6months I think) with the govermentfor a permit/visa extension etc. When people are denied, some say the Egyptian gov takes over and convertly digs.excavates or whatever in order to sercure their national treasure. I have seen some pictures that seem to show the Egypt Gov is digging under ground to reach alot of the pyramids and the sphinx.



Hmmm. Interesting. I too have heard they've found cavities; whether they are man made or not is really the question there. It doesn't help that Hawass is no friend to this cause. He's done his best to shoot all these theories down and actively prevent diggings like this from happening.....
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