In which case, we better get out a shovel. They also could have sold the bones or made them into tools or weapons. Perhaps even made jewelry or other forms of "trophies" out of them.

Probably, makes sense...especially if you apply that to every other being out there. People and countries have been known to make various items and weapons out of bone, a few come to mind. Even now, I'm sure there are still places where they use bone to make jewelery and other little things. Probably not weapons now though.

Well i dont think i ever did get an answer to this but what is the main legand that surrounds Orochi?

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yeah, I think the links and stuff on the first page kind of explain everything. if not I'll do some digging and see if anything happens to pop up.

Derived from the legend, in Japan, there's a hill road that divided into 8 routes were called Orochi. It was the hill where supposedly, Susa No Oh killed the serpent Orochi with the Kusanagi sword from its own tail as the final blow. A local legend, not necesarilly to be proven true. As it's actually a part of the legend of 3 Sacred Treasure of Japan, along with the Yata mirror and the Yasakani jewel.

Kusanagi no Tsurugi (the Blade Of Kusanagi)
Three sacred treasures of Japan

Had no clue about the hill. Thanks for the info.

Yes, if interested in relgious studies, people should read the Kojiki. Many tales are....interesting to say the least.

2 things

1) thank you for all of the information and
2) I love your siggie it makes me laugh out loud every time i read it



Were completely agreed then

Nice story even if it is a complete myth

You're welcome. I'm half Japanese, so I guess it's pretty natural to be interested in Japanese mythology.

That makes sense, i myself am just really interested in japanese culture, and the myth/legand is a very interesting one to say the least

My experience with what Dragons are comes from a purely allegorical side. The Ouroborous serpent is the symbol of the Cyclic nature of our Universe. The Dragon has come out of this concept and perpetuated into a legend here on Earth. This is not to say that manifestations of the Dragon do not occur in the Astral plane or other planes of existence, for they most certainly do. As stated in the Qabalah the Qlippoth can and do manifest in these other planes of existence and can if enough Will applied manifest here on the Earthly plane.

thanks for the info

i didnt know that before, well at least now i do

Well, that is basically the plot in the PS2 video Game Okami. You go on an epic adventure as amaterasu, to defeat Orochi. It is a good game and I learned alot adout the legend.

In all seriousness, I don't think anyone here believes Orochi is even real, let alone, if people ate parts of its body. This is really one of the stupidest dragonslaying stories I have ever read. Just think aobut it. The dragon is offered eight bowls of saki which it contendedly laps up as the guy walks to each head and somehow chops them off one by one while the dragon keeps drinking the saki not even noticing that it is progressivily losing heads. No man can behead a horse, let alone a neck that must be thicker than a bus if the dragon is as huge as it is described. This one is just complete nonsense, and I suspect it was always regarded as a comedic farce, much like most of the British dragonslaying stories.

If any dragon, anywhere was ever killed by men, its bones, hide, claws, etc would have been preserved as treasures, just as fossils and counterfeits really were preserved that amply proves the point. If someone killed such a dragon, at least one skull would have been preserved as a trophy, though likley the whole body. If we pretend for a moment that the legend has any merit, the type of sword proves this could have only happened a few hundred years ago, and the tons of bones would have been used for objects that would still be around today.

Onc again, the person attributed to this act was a deity. As for the lapping at the saki while he chopped off the heads, Orochi was suppossedly passed out at the time, hence the whole point of gathering the saki to begin with.

And as a side note, it's not a great idea to refer to the stories of different religions as 'stupid', people do get offended.

We may never know if it was always meant to be a joke, because now we must "respect" stories that proably were only jokes when they were first spun. This may have been no different than Paul Bunyun and his Blue Ox ploughing the Mississippi River.

Except it's in a religious book, much akin to others such as the Bible. Start talking about Jesus' resurrection being complete idiocy and you would have members here raining fire down about you in their posts.

Just because it doesn't conform with your ideas does not mean it's a joke people passed around at the local pub and can freely be made fun of.

Likely as not, this may be some retelling of a polital event. For instance, if eight local lords, abusing the lands and people, were lured into a drunken stupor and then assassinated, it would not do to sing about such an event...

In China, Japan, and Europe, dragons were often used as stand-ins for nobility and royalty.

Yep, as mentioned earlier in the thread. Not every story is literal and factual.

Actually most the stories I hear about dragons have
very negative connotations.

read revelations from the bible.

A very common cause for mythological tales all over the world. Perhaps similar to this is the English legend of the Wantley dragon, initially written by Thomas Percy in 1685AD.
The legend tells of an evil dragon that eats children. A knight named More of More hall was called apon to slay the dragon and to cut a long story short managed to complete his task.

Sources say that the Wantley Dragon story tells the tale of a nasty attorney who cheated children of their estates, but was made to give them back by a gentleman called More who went against him “armed with the spikes of the law”. Some also believe that the the ballad is in fact older than first thought as the More coat of arms bears a dragon which can be traced as far back as 1634.

This kind of explaining memorable moments are often explained by folklore or are often the result of Chinese Whispers. In my opinion, this is one of the reasons Mythology can explain so much about those who have lived before us

Most biblical scholars believe the seven headed dragon is a metaphor for Rome, seeking to destroy the Christian Church (devouring the Child). It wa believed to hav been written during the persecutins of the Emperor Domitian.

On the contrary many human cultures portray dragons as the earliest gods that brought things like writing, agriculture, animal domestication, laws, and life givng rain to mankind.

Even in 'real' Christianity dragon were regarded as the highest heavenly creastures (Seraphim). Virtually every illuinated Medieval Bible portrayed God ridng on the back of a classic 'western" dragon (Cherubim) and it was believed these dragons would be released from heaven on Judgement day to devour the wicked. Yahweh Himself can be traced to the Sumerian dragon Enki, and a winged serpend idol was worshipped by the Hebrews for many centuries.

Dragons arr still regarded as beneficient dieties in most of the oriental world.

Most of the "Evil dragons" myths in Christianity are the work of one man, who simply added dragons to the lives of the saints to make the stories more interesting. Until this was done for George, there was never a dragon connected with him. It was invented after a thousnd years of no dragons in his story.