the assassinations of presidents abraham lincoln and john fitz-gerald kennedy were linked by an amazing series of coincidences
Abraham lincoln was first elected to congress 1846 john kennedy followed exactly 100 years later
lincoln was elected as president on november 6th 1860 . kennedy was elected as president on november 8th 1960
after there deaths they were both suceeded by southerners named johnson . andrew johnson was born in 1808 and lyndon johnson was born in 1908
john wilkes booth the man who killed lincoln was born 1838 while lee harvey oswald kennedys killer was born in 1939 both men were southeners and both were shot before they could come to trial
booth commited his crime in a theater then ran to a barn whereas oswald pulled the trigger on kennedy from a window from a werehouse and ran to a theater
on the day he was assassinated lincoln told a guard william h cook 'i believe there are men who want to take my life... and i have no doubt they will do it ....if it is to be done it is imposssible to prevent it'
and kennedy told his wife jackie and his personal advisor ken O donnel l 'if someone wants to shoot me from a window with a rifle nobody can stop it . so why worry about it'
lincoln was shot in Fords theater kennedy was shot in an automobile made by the ford motor company the name of the car ? thats right a lincoln
and finally kennedy had a secretary named evelyn lincoln who is said to have strongly adised kennedy against going to dallas
so what do u guys think is it all a big coincidence or something more
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Yeah, I think it's just coincidences. Things like that happen. That's why they say it's a small world.
Have you heard of the presidential curse? Here it is from Wikipedia:
Curse of Tippecanoe
The term Curse of Tippecanoe (also known as Tecumseh's curse, the presidential curse, zero-year curse, or the twenty-year curse) is sometimes used to describe the pattern where from 1840 to 1960 each American President who had won election in a year ending in zero (such as 1880 or 1900) died in office.
The curse
The curse, first widely noted in a Ripley's Believe It or Not book published in 1931 [1], began with the death of William Henry Harrison, who died in 1841 after having been elected in 1840. Every 20 years thereafter for the next 120 years the winner of the United States presidential election ultimately died while serving in office, from William Henry Harrison, (elected 1840, died 1841) to John F. Kennedy (elected 1960, died 1963).
Origins
The name "Curse of Tippecanoe" derives from the 1811 battle. As governor of the Indiana Territory, William Harrison bribed Native Americans to cede their lands to the U.S. government and handed out whiskey that caused alcoholism to run rampant among Indians. [2] These hostile acts angered the Shawnee chief Tecumseh ("Panther in the sky") and brought government soldiers and Native Americans to the brink of war. As a result, Tecumseh and his brother organized a defensive group of Indian tribes designed to resist white westward expansion. In 1811, Harrison successfully attacked Tecumseh’s village in which Harrison defeated the Shawnee leaders Tecumseh and his brother Tenskwatawa, known as the Prophet along the Tippecanoe River earning Harrison fame and the nickname "Old Tippecanoe." [2] Harrison strengthened his reputation even more by defeating the British at the Battle of the Thames during the War of 1812.[2] Supposedly, the Prophet set a curse against Harrison and future White House occupants.[3]
Media survey
After the observation by Ripley, talk of the curse resurfaced as the next cursed election year approached. A similar oddities cartoon feature, Strange As it Seems by John Hix, appeared prior to Election Day 1940, with "CURSE OVER THE WHITE HOUSE!"[4] A list, running from "1840 - Harrison" to "1920 - Harding" was followed by the ominous "1940 - ??????" and the note that "In the last 100 years, Every U.S. President Elected at 20-Year Intervals Has Died In Office!" Ed Koterba, author of a syndicated column called "Assignment Washington", referred to the subject again in 1960.[5]
As 1980 approached, the curse was sufficiently well-known, and Americans wondered whether the winner of that election would follow the pattern (or whether a madman with a sense of destiny might seek to hasten the winner's death). The Library of Congress conducted a study in the summer of 1980 about the origin of the tale, and concluded that "although the story has been well-known for years, there are no documented sources and no published mentions of it".[citation needed] Running for re-election in 1980, President Jimmy Carter was asked about the curse at a campaign stop in Dayton on October 2 of that year. Taking questions from the crowd, Carter replied, "I'm not afraid. If I knew it was going to happen, I would go ahead and be President and do the best I could, for the last day I could." [6]
Exception
The election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 was not followed by his death in office. Reagan survived his eight years in two terms, despite being seriously wounded in an assassination attempt within months of his inauguration. Days after Reagan survived the shooting, Columnist Jack Anderson wrote "Reagan and the Eerie Zero Factor" and noted that the 40th President had either disproved the superstition, or had nine lives[7]; like the presidents who had died in office, Reagan was succeeded in office by his vice president George H. W. Bush, the first incumbent vice president in 152 years to assume the presidency other than upon the death or resignation of the president. Reagan's would-be assassin, John Hinckley, Jr., was found by a jury to be insane, but there was no evidence that he was motivated by a belief in curses. However, every president since Richard Nixon has had at least one assassination attempt, including George W. Bush, so the Curse of Tippecanoe may be a coincidence. Moreover, Zachary Taylor had no zeros in the year he was elected and still died in his term. Although many argue that Reagan's survival broke the curse.
1840 William Henry Harrison Pneumonia
1860 Abraham Lincoln Assassinated
1880 James A. Garfield Assassinated
1900 William McKinley Assassinated
1920 Warren G. Harding Uncertain: Heart attack, stroke, or possibly poison?
1940 Franklin D. Roosevelt Cerebral hemorrhage
1960 John F. Kennedy Assassinated
1980 Ronald Reagan Attempted assassination - injured but not killed
2000 George W. Bush Attempted assassination - not injured[8]
Curse of Tippecanoe
The term Curse of Tippecanoe (also known as Tecumseh's curse, the presidential curse, zero-year curse, or the twenty-year curse) is sometimes used to describe the pattern where from 1840 to 1960 each American President who had won election in a year ending in zero (such as 1880 or 1900) died in office.
The curse
The curse, first widely noted in a Ripley's Believe It or Not book published in 1931 [1], began with the death of William Henry Harrison, who died in 1841 after having been elected in 1840. Every 20 years thereafter for the next 120 years the winner of the United States presidential election ultimately died while serving in office, from William Henry Harrison, (elected 1840, died 1841) to John F. Kennedy (elected 1960, died 1963).
Origins
The name "Curse of Tippecanoe" derives from the 1811 battle. As governor of the Indiana Territory, William Harrison bribed Native Americans to cede their lands to the U.S. government and handed out whiskey that caused alcoholism to run rampant among Indians. [2] These hostile acts angered the Shawnee chief Tecumseh ("Panther in the sky") and brought government soldiers and Native Americans to the brink of war. As a result, Tecumseh and his brother organized a defensive group of Indian tribes designed to resist white westward expansion. In 1811, Harrison successfully attacked Tecumseh’s village in which Harrison defeated the Shawnee leaders Tecumseh and his brother Tenskwatawa, known as the Prophet along the Tippecanoe River earning Harrison fame and the nickname "Old Tippecanoe." [2] Harrison strengthened his reputation even more by defeating the British at the Battle of the Thames during the War of 1812.[2] Supposedly, the Prophet set a curse against Harrison and future White House occupants.[3]
Media survey
After the observation by Ripley, talk of the curse resurfaced as the next cursed election year approached. A similar oddities cartoon feature, Strange As it Seems by John Hix, appeared prior to Election Day 1940, with "CURSE OVER THE WHITE HOUSE!"[4] A list, running from "1840 - Harrison" to "1920 - Harding" was followed by the ominous "1940 - ??????" and the note that "In the last 100 years, Every U.S. President Elected at 20-Year Intervals Has Died In Office!" Ed Koterba, author of a syndicated column called "Assignment Washington", referred to the subject again in 1960.[5]
As 1980 approached, the curse was sufficiently well-known, and Americans wondered whether the winner of that election would follow the pattern (or whether a madman with a sense of destiny might seek to hasten the winner's death). The Library of Congress conducted a study in the summer of 1980 about the origin of the tale, and concluded that "although the story has been well-known for years, there are no documented sources and no published mentions of it".[citation needed] Running for re-election in 1980, President Jimmy Carter was asked about the curse at a campaign stop in Dayton on October 2 of that year. Taking questions from the crowd, Carter replied, "I'm not afraid. If I knew it was going to happen, I would go ahead and be President and do the best I could, for the last day I could." [6]
Exception
The election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 was not followed by his death in office. Reagan survived his eight years in two terms, despite being seriously wounded in an assassination attempt within months of his inauguration. Days after Reagan survived the shooting, Columnist Jack Anderson wrote "Reagan and the Eerie Zero Factor" and noted that the 40th President had either disproved the superstition, or had nine lives[7]; like the presidents who had died in office, Reagan was succeeded in office by his vice president George H. W. Bush, the first incumbent vice president in 152 years to assume the presidency other than upon the death or resignation of the president. Reagan's would-be assassin, John Hinckley, Jr., was found by a jury to be insane, but there was no evidence that he was motivated by a belief in curses. However, every president since Richard Nixon has had at least one assassination attempt, including George W. Bush, so the Curse of Tippecanoe may be a coincidence. Moreover, Zachary Taylor had no zeros in the year he was elected and still died in his term. Although many argue that Reagan's survival broke the curse.
1840 William Henry Harrison Pneumonia
1860 Abraham Lincoln Assassinated
1880 James A. Garfield Assassinated
1900 William McKinley Assassinated
1920 Warren G. Harding Uncertain: Heart attack, stroke, or possibly poison?
1940 Franklin D. Roosevelt Cerebral hemorrhage
1960 John F. Kennedy Assassinated
1980 Ronald Reagan Attempted assassination - injured but not killed
2000 George W. Bush Attempted assassination - not injured[8]
- both presidents were shot on a friday
- both were shot in the head
- both assasins were known by their 3 names
- Andrew johnson (lincoln's successor)was born in 1809
- Lyndon Johnson (kennedy's successor) was born in 1909
- both of the assassins were assasinated before their trials
- lincoln had a seceratary called kennedy
- kennedy had a seceratary called lincoln
and to add to that, john wilkies booth slept in the same bed that lincoln was put in after he was shot...
if i've accidentally repeated anything you said, my apologies
- both were shot in the head
- both assasins were known by their 3 names
- Andrew johnson (lincoln's successor)was born in 1809
- Lyndon Johnson (kennedy's successor) was born in 1909
- both of the assassins were assasinated before their trials
- lincoln had a seceratary called kennedy
- kennedy had a seceratary called lincoln
and to add to that, john wilkies booth slept in the same bed that lincoln was put in after he was shot...
if i've accidentally repeated anything you said, my apologies
QUOTE
2000 George W. Bush Attempted assassination - not injured
ooooh! so close and yet so far away...
doesn't that mean that the iraq war could potentially have been averted...
QUOTE (Promethius @ May 7 2008, 09:17 PM) 
- both presidents were shot on a friday
- both were shot in the head
- both assasins were known by their 3 names
- Andrew johnson (lincoln's successor)was born in 1809
- Lyndon Johnson (kennedy's successor) was born in 1909
- both of the assassins were assasinated before their trials
- lincoln had a seceratary called kennedy
- kennedy had a seceratary called lincoln
and to add to that, john wilkies booth slept in the same bed that lincoln was put in after he was shot...
if i've accidentally repeated anything you said, my apologies
- both were shot in the head
- both assasins were known by their 3 names
- Andrew johnson (lincoln's successor)was born in 1809
- Lyndon Johnson (kennedy's successor) was born in 1909
- both of the assassins were assasinated before their trials
- lincoln had a seceratary called kennedy
- kennedy had a seceratary called lincoln
and to add to that, john wilkies booth slept in the same bed that lincoln was put in after he was shot...
if i've accidentally repeated anything you said, my apologies
well after hearing these extra similarities aswell as my ones it seems there may infact be a presidential curse although not like the one Lady_Boleyn talked about
That's some interesting stuff. I remember reading about all that when I was a little kid. Its crazy the similarities, so yeah I definetly think there is something to it, more than mere coincidence. What that is exactly, I can't say. Who knows, maybe Kennedy was Lincoln reincarnated, as was oswald the reincarnation of Booth. Wild theory sure, but wouldn't that be something? Nice topic.
QUOTE (Lady_Boleyn @ May 7 2008, 05:14 PM)
Have you heard of the presidential curse? Here it is from Wikipedia:
Curse of Tippecanoe
The term Curse of Tippecanoe (also known as Tecumseh's curse, the presidential curse, zero-year curse, or the twenty-year curse) is sometimes used to describe the pattern where from 1840 to 1960 each American President who had won election in a year ending in zero (such as 1880 or 1900) died in office.
The curse
The curse, first widely noted in a Ripley's Believe It or Not book published in 1931 [1], began with the death of William Henry Harrison, who died in 1841 after having been elected in 1840. Every 20 years thereafter for the next 120 years the winner of the United States presidential election ultimately died while serving in office, from William Henry Harrison, (elected 1840, died 1841) to John F. Kennedy (elected 1960, died 1963).
Origins
The name "Curse of Tippecanoe" derives from the 1811 battle. As governor of the Indiana Territory, William Harrison bribed Native Americans to cede their lands to the U.S. government and handed out whiskey that caused alcoholism to run rampant among Indians. [2] These hostile acts angered the Shawnee chief Tecumseh ("Panther in the sky") and brought government soldiers and Native Americans to the brink of war. As a result, Tecumseh and his brother organized a defensive group of Indian tribes designed to resist white westward expansion. In 1811, Harrison successfully attacked Tecumseh’s village in which Harrison defeated the Shawnee leaders Tecumseh and his brother Tenskwatawa, known as the Prophet along the Tippecanoe River earning Harrison fame and the nickname "Old Tippecanoe." [2] Harrison strengthened his reputation even more by defeating the British at the Battle of the Thames during the War of 1812.[2] Supposedly, the Prophet set a curse against Harrison and future White House occupants.[3]
Media survey
After the observation by Ripley, talk of the curse resurfaced as the next cursed election year approached. A similar oddities cartoon feature, Strange As it Seems by John Hix, appeared prior to Election Day 1940, with "CURSE OVER THE WHITE HOUSE!"[4] A list, running from "1840 - Harrison" to "1920 - Harding" was followed by the ominous "1940 - ??????" and the note that "In the last 100 years, Every U.S. President Elected at 20-Year Intervals Has Died In Office!" Ed Koterba, author of a syndicated column called "Assignment Washington", referred to the subject again in 1960.[5]
As 1980 approached, the curse was sufficiently well-known, and Americans wondered whether the winner of that election would follow the pattern (or whether a madman with a sense of destiny might seek to hasten the winner's death). The Library of Congress conducted a study in the summer of 1980 about the origin of the tale, and concluded that "although the story has been well-known for years, there are no documented sources and no published mentions of it".[citation needed] Running for re-election in 1980, President Jimmy Carter was asked about the curse at a campaign stop in Dayton on October 2 of that year. Taking questions from the crowd, Carter replied, "I'm not afraid. If I knew it was going to happen, I would go ahead and be President and do the best I could, for the last day I could." [6]
Exception
The election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 was not followed by his death in office. Reagan survived his eight years in two terms, despite being seriously wounded in an assassination attempt within months of his inauguration. Days after Reagan survived the shooting, Columnist Jack Anderson wrote "Reagan and the Eerie Zero Factor" and noted that the 40th President had either disproved the superstition, or had nine lives[7]; like the presidents who had died in office, Reagan was succeeded in office by his vice president George H. W. Bush, the first incumbent vice president in 152 years to assume the presidency other than upon the death or resignation of the president. Reagan's would-be assassin, John Hinckley, Jr., was found by a jury to be insane, but there was no evidence that he was motivated by a belief in curses. However, every president since Richard Nixon has had at least one assassination attempt, including George W. Bush, so the Curse of Tippecanoe may be a coincidence. Moreover, Zachary Taylor had no zeros in the year he was elected and still died in his term. Although many argue that Reagan's survival broke the curse.
1840 William Henry Harrison Pneumonia
1860 Abraham Lincoln Assassinated
1880 James A. Garfield Assassinated
1900 William McKinley Assassinated
1920 Warren G. Harding Uncertain: Heart attack, stroke, or possibly poison?
1940 Franklin D. Roosevelt Cerebral hemorrhage
1960 John F. Kennedy Assassinated
1980 Ronald Reagan Attempted assassination - injured but not killed
2000 George W. Bush Attempted assassination - not injured[8]
seriously neat info ... thanks!!!Curse of Tippecanoe
The term Curse of Tippecanoe (also known as Tecumseh's curse, the presidential curse, zero-year curse, or the twenty-year curse) is sometimes used to describe the pattern where from 1840 to 1960 each American President who had won election in a year ending in zero (such as 1880 or 1900) died in office.
The curse
The curse, first widely noted in a Ripley's Believe It or Not book published in 1931 [1], began with the death of William Henry Harrison, who died in 1841 after having been elected in 1840. Every 20 years thereafter for the next 120 years the winner of the United States presidential election ultimately died while serving in office, from William Henry Harrison, (elected 1840, died 1841) to John F. Kennedy (elected 1960, died 1963).
Origins
The name "Curse of Tippecanoe" derives from the 1811 battle. As governor of the Indiana Territory, William Harrison bribed Native Americans to cede their lands to the U.S. government and handed out whiskey that caused alcoholism to run rampant among Indians. [2] These hostile acts angered the Shawnee chief Tecumseh ("Panther in the sky") and brought government soldiers and Native Americans to the brink of war. As a result, Tecumseh and his brother organized a defensive group of Indian tribes designed to resist white westward expansion. In 1811, Harrison successfully attacked Tecumseh’s village in which Harrison defeated the Shawnee leaders Tecumseh and his brother Tenskwatawa, known as the Prophet along the Tippecanoe River earning Harrison fame and the nickname "Old Tippecanoe." [2] Harrison strengthened his reputation even more by defeating the British at the Battle of the Thames during the War of 1812.[2] Supposedly, the Prophet set a curse against Harrison and future White House occupants.[3]
Media survey
After the observation by Ripley, talk of the curse resurfaced as the next cursed election year approached. A similar oddities cartoon feature, Strange As it Seems by John Hix, appeared prior to Election Day 1940, with "CURSE OVER THE WHITE HOUSE!"[4] A list, running from "1840 - Harrison" to "1920 - Harding" was followed by the ominous "1940 - ??????" and the note that "In the last 100 years, Every U.S. President Elected at 20-Year Intervals Has Died In Office!" Ed Koterba, author of a syndicated column called "Assignment Washington", referred to the subject again in 1960.[5]
As 1980 approached, the curse was sufficiently well-known, and Americans wondered whether the winner of that election would follow the pattern (or whether a madman with a sense of destiny might seek to hasten the winner's death). The Library of Congress conducted a study in the summer of 1980 about the origin of the tale, and concluded that "although the story has been well-known for years, there are no documented sources and no published mentions of it".[citation needed] Running for re-election in 1980, President Jimmy Carter was asked about the curse at a campaign stop in Dayton on October 2 of that year. Taking questions from the crowd, Carter replied, "I'm not afraid. If I knew it was going to happen, I would go ahead and be President and do the best I could, for the last day I could." [6]
Exception
The election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 was not followed by his death in office. Reagan survived his eight years in two terms, despite being seriously wounded in an assassination attempt within months of his inauguration. Days after Reagan survived the shooting, Columnist Jack Anderson wrote "Reagan and the Eerie Zero Factor" and noted that the 40th President had either disproved the superstition, or had nine lives[7]; like the presidents who had died in office, Reagan was succeeded in office by his vice president George H. W. Bush, the first incumbent vice president in 152 years to assume the presidency other than upon the death or resignation of the president. Reagan's would-be assassin, John Hinckley, Jr., was found by a jury to be insane, but there was no evidence that he was motivated by a belief in curses. However, every president since Richard Nixon has had at least one assassination attempt, including George W. Bush, so the Curse of Tippecanoe may be a coincidence. Moreover, Zachary Taylor had no zeros in the year he was elected and still died in his term. Although many argue that Reagan's survival broke the curse.
1840 William Henry Harrison Pneumonia
1860 Abraham Lincoln Assassinated
1880 James A. Garfield Assassinated
1900 William McKinley Assassinated
1920 Warren G. Harding Uncertain: Heart attack, stroke, or possibly poison?
1940 Franklin D. Roosevelt Cerebral hemorrhage
1960 John F. Kennedy Assassinated
1980 Ronald Reagan Attempted assassination - injured but not killed
2000 George W. Bush Attempted assassination - not injured[8]
QUOTE (Promethius @ May 7 2008, 04:18 PM)
ooooh! so close and yet so far away... doesn't that mean that the iraq war could potentially have been averted...
doesn't that mean that the iraq war could potentially have been averted...Given that the attempt occurred in 2006 it wouldn't have mattered either way.
Your Welcome for the info!
That's an interesting theory!
QUOTE
Who knows, maybe Kennedy was Lincoln reincarnated, as was oswald the reincarnation of Booth. Wild theory sure, but wouldn't that be something?
That's an interesting theory!
It isn't that much of a surprise. Please check what snopes.com has to say about this unremarkable situation.
QUOTE (Promethius @ May 7 2008, 05:18 PM)
ooooh! so close and yet so far away... doesn't that mean that the iraq war could potentially have been averted...
doesn't that mean that the iraq war could potentially have been averted...Are you suggesting that it would have been better for W to have been assassinated?
it seems to me that the although some of the things on the list on snopes may be wrong there are still A LOT that are real also i dont see why how there careers started seems to affect anything which is wat is mainly argued on snopes how each of there careers began
oh an also if anyone knows any more similarities that are not already on snopes or my posts then plz post them
oh an also if anyone knows any more similarities that are not already on snopes or my posts then plz post them
who knows?but i heard about this in first grade 1968!
2000 George W. Bush Attempted assassination - not injured[8]
this is bush jr or sr?i can't remember an assass ination attempt on ether as president.
this is bush jr or sr?i can't remember an assass ination attempt on ether as president.
QUOTE (Promethius @ May 7 2008, 09:17 PM)
and to add to that, john wilkies booth slept in the same bed that lincoln was put in after he was shot...
But isn't that because this was a boarding house/hotel where ACTORS stayed?
QUOTE (openmind1963 @ May 10 2008, 12:32 PM)
2000 George W. Bush Attempted assassination - not injured[8]
this is bush jr or sr?i can't remember an assass ination attempt on ether as president.
this is bush jr or sr?i can't remember an assass ination attempt on ether as president.
Neither do I and I'm a news junkie. Anybody got any additional details here?
did'nt saddam hussein put a hit on bush 41 when he went to kuwait AFTER he was president???the secret service found out about it and stopped it did'nt they?
QUOTE (openmind1963 @ May 10 2008, 05:32 AM)
2000 George W. Bush Attempted assassination - not injured[8]
this is bush jr or sr?i can't remember an assass ination attempt on ether as president.
this is bush jr or sr?i can't remember an assass ination attempt on ether as president.
no assassination attempt on either,saddam was supposed to have put a hit on daddy bush,he most likely just watched to many gangster movies and was just rattling his sabre
QUOTE (Promethius @ May 7 2008, 10:17 PM)
- both presidents were shot on a friday
- both were shot in the head
- both assasins were known by their 3 names
- Andrew johnson (lincoln's successor)was born in 1809
- Lyndon Johnson (kennedy's successor) was born in 1909
- both of the assassins were assasinated before their trials
- lincoln had a seceratary called kennedy
- kennedy had a seceratary called lincoln
and to add to that, john wilkies booth slept in the same bed that lincoln was put in after he was shot...
if i've accidentally repeated anything you said, my apologies
- both were shot in the head
- both assasins were known by their 3 names
- Andrew johnson (lincoln's successor)was born in 1809
- Lyndon Johnson (kennedy's successor) was born in 1909
- both of the assassins were assasinated before their trials
- lincoln had a seceratary called kennedy
- kennedy had a seceratary called lincoln
and to add to that, john wilkies booth slept in the same bed that lincoln was put in after he was shot...
if i've accidentally repeated anything you said, my apologies
why would they do that? plz explain
I think that such lists could be compiled about any two individuals.
For an extreme example:
Both "Jesus" and "Adolf" have five letters each. "Christ" and "Hitler" have six.
Christ walked out of His tomb. Hitler walked down into his (his underground bunker in January, 1945).
Or: Christ ascended into the sky. Hitler sunk down into the earth.
Christ and Hitler both died in April.
St. PAUL preached Christ. Dr. Joseph PAUL Goebbels preached Hitler.
And so on and on.
For an extreme example:
Both "Jesus" and "Adolf" have five letters each. "Christ" and "Hitler" have six.
Christ walked out of His tomb. Hitler walked down into his (his underground bunker in January, 1945).
Or: Christ ascended into the sky. Hitler sunk down into the earth.
Christ and Hitler both died in April.
St. PAUL preached Christ. Dr. Joseph PAUL Goebbels preached Hitler.
And so on and on.
ok so heres THE most extensive list i could find aswell as some other facts and fallacies also it seems some of these have already been stated
Comparison of events
The following sentences compares the amazing coincidences in the deaths of Lincoln and Kennedy.
Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846
Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946
lincoln was elected President in 1860
kennedy was elected President in 1960
lincolns wife lost a child while living in the White House
kennedys wife lost a child while living in the White House
lincoln was directly concerned with Civil Rights
kennedy was directly concerned with Civil Rights
Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy who told him not to go to the theater *1
Kennedy had a secretary named Lincoln who told him not to go to Dallas **2
Lincoln was shot in the back of the head in the presence of his wife
Kennedy was shot in the back of the head in the presence of his wife
Lincoln shot in the Ford Theatre
Kennedy shot in a Lincoln, made by Ford
both were shot on a friday
The assassin, John Wilkes Booth, was known by three names, comprised of fifteen letters
The assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald, was known by three names, comprised of fifteen letters
Booth shot Lincoln in a theater and fled to a warehouse
Oswald shot Kennedy from a warehouse and fled to a theater
Booth was killed before being brought to trial
Oswald was killed before being brought to trial
There were theories that Booth was part of a greater conspiracy
There were theories that Oswald was part of a greater conspiracy
Lincoln's successor was Andrew Johnson, born in 1808
Kennedy's successor was Lyndon Johnson, born in 1908
kennedy had a secretary named lincoln who warned him not to go to dallas
Other interesting facts
Apparently Lincoln had a dream several days before the assassination that he had been killed. He told his wife that he had seen himself in a casket.
Also, Lincoln's son Tad had a pet turkey named Jack. Tad asked his father not to kill the turkey for Thanksgiving. Although Harry S Truman started the official tradition, Lincoln was the first to "pardon" a Thanksgiving turkey.
Now what would be real interesting is if Kennedy had a pet named Abe or had pardoned someone by that name. Thus far, I haven't heard of that.
Skeptics disagree
Some skeptics say that you could take any two famous people and find a number of similar-type coincidences between them. The only problem with that theory is that there really haven't been any listings of such comparisons. And certainly none has been as extensive as the Lincoln-Kennedy similarities.
Summary
Facts concerning the assassination of Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy are amazingly similar. It is uncertain if such coincidences have any meaning, but they certainly are strange.
Comparison of events
The following sentences compares the amazing coincidences in the deaths of Lincoln and Kennedy.
Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846
Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946
lincoln was elected President in 1860
kennedy was elected President in 1960
lincolns wife lost a child while living in the White House
kennedys wife lost a child while living in the White House
lincoln was directly concerned with Civil Rights
kennedy was directly concerned with Civil Rights
Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy who told him not to go to the theater *1
Kennedy had a secretary named Lincoln who told him not to go to Dallas **2
Lincoln was shot in the back of the head in the presence of his wife
Kennedy was shot in the back of the head in the presence of his wife
Lincoln shot in the Ford Theatre
Kennedy shot in a Lincoln, made by Ford
both were shot on a friday
The assassin, John Wilkes Booth, was known by three names, comprised of fifteen letters
The assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald, was known by three names, comprised of fifteen letters
Booth shot Lincoln in a theater and fled to a warehouse
Oswald shot Kennedy from a warehouse and fled to a theater
Booth was killed before being brought to trial
Oswald was killed before being brought to trial
There were theories that Booth was part of a greater conspiracy
There were theories that Oswald was part of a greater conspiracy
Lincoln's successor was Andrew Johnson, born in 1808
Kennedy's successor was Lyndon Johnson, born in 1908
kennedy had a secretary named lincoln who warned him not to go to dallas
Other interesting facts
Apparently Lincoln had a dream several days before the assassination that he had been killed. He told his wife that he had seen himself in a casket.
Also, Lincoln's son Tad had a pet turkey named Jack. Tad asked his father not to kill the turkey for Thanksgiving. Although Harry S Truman started the official tradition, Lincoln was the first to "pardon" a Thanksgiving turkey.
Now what would be real interesting is if Kennedy had a pet named Abe or had pardoned someone by that name. Thus far, I haven't heard of that.
Skeptics disagree
Some skeptics say that you could take any two famous people and find a number of similar-type coincidences between them. The only problem with that theory is that there really haven't been any listings of such comparisons. And certainly none has been as extensive as the Lincoln-Kennedy similarities.
Summary
Facts concerning the assassination of Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy are amazingly similar. It is uncertain if such coincidences have any meaning, but they certainly are strange.
Very interesting. But they are not sure that is was Booth they killed in the warehouse.
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Very interesting. But they are not sure that is was Booth they killed in the warehouse.
his may be true but the likeliest answer is that it was infact booth who died in the warehouse
QUOTE (Elite @ May 14 2008, 03:44 PM)
It is an urban myth that Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy. There is no record of that.
Since it was precisely "Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy" which hooked many of us onto this list of co-incidences in the first place, the whole litany starts falling to pieces on that point alone!
QUOTE (OldTimeRadio @ May 14 2008, 11:30 PM)
Since it was precisely "Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy" which hooked many of us onto this list of co-incidences in the first place, the whole litany starts falling to pieces on that point alone!
so the other coincidences mean nothing to u?
They are all coincedences, albeit interesting ones.
But that is the very nature of a coincedence, is it not?
But that is the very nature of a coincedence, is it not?
QUOTE (supervike @ May 15 2008, 04:31 PM)
They are all coincedences, albeit interesting ones.
But that is the very nature of a coincedence, is it not?
But that is the very nature of a coincedence, is it not?
saying that can u honestly say that there is any other 2 ppl in the history of the world to have such an extensive list of similarities and also if u digging u will find more and more
and i know ppl will say u could do this with any 2 ppl but if u can find two ppl with as many coincidences as kennedy and lincoln then be my guest
QUOTE (Elite @ May 15 2008, 10:51 AM)
saying that can u honestly say that there is any other 2 ppl in the history of the world to have such an extensive list of similarities and also if u digging u will find more and more
and i know ppl will say u could do this with any 2 ppl but if u can find two ppl with as many coincidences as kennedy and lincoln then be my guest
and i know ppl will say u could do this with any 2 ppl but if u can find two ppl with as many coincidences as kennedy and lincoln then be my guest
No, I'm not saying anything close to that.
But, how about listing all the things that they are NOT similar in, and then seeing how the list compares.
What I am saying that coincedences, by their very nature, are interesting. This one has always been a particularly good one. But, at the end of the day, I still feel they are just 'coinky dinkies'. Odd, but no cosmic meaning.
QUOTE (supervike @ May 15 2008, 04:58 PM)
No, I'm not saying anything close to that.
But, how about listing all the things that they are NOT similar in, and then seeing how the list compares.
What I am saying that coincedences, by their very nature, are interesting. This one has always been a particularly good one. But, at the end of the day, I still feel they are just 'coinky dinkies'. Odd, but no cosmic meaning.
But, how about listing all the things that they are NOT similar in, and then seeing how the list compares.
What I am saying that coincedences, by their very nature, are interesting. This one has always been a particularly good one. But, at the end of the day, I still feel they are just 'coinky dinkies'. Odd, but no cosmic meaning.
so ur saying simply because there are more ways in which they are different that all of these similarities mean nothing?
the problem is NOTHING and NO ONE is similar enough to someone else to outweigh the differences
this is why the similarities are looked for which brings me back to a previous post of mine which explains that there may be more differences but there are still more similarities between them and how they died than any other 2 ppl in the history of the world
Its very interesting, but a bunch of coincidences. Some are just myths while others are true. Yes, there is more similarities than almost any two people in the world, but there is no scientific evidence to show that they are closely related.
QUOTE (Elite @ May 15 2008, 11:05 AM)
so ur saying simply because there are more ways in which they are different that all of these similarities mean nothing?
the problem is NOTHING and NO ONE is similar enough to someone else to outweigh the differences
this is why the similarities are looked for which brings me back to a previous post of mine which explains that there may be more differences but there are still more similarities between them and how they died than any other 2 ppl in the history of the world
the problem is NOTHING and NO ONE is similar enough to someone else to outweigh the differences
this is why the similarities are looked for which brings me back to a previous post of mine which explains that there may be more differences but there are still more similarities between them and how they died than any other 2 ppl in the history of the world
I see your point.
I'll give you an example of what I mean.
I've been on another website forum for some time, as had another fella I was friendly with.
As time went on, other forum denizens jokingly kidded that that fellow and I must have been the same person, as most of our thoughts/ideas were very similar.
It was about that time where we started noticing very odd similarities between us. We both share the same first name, the same first initial of the middle name, our Dad's first name were the same, we shared the same birth month, etc. etc. I can't remember them all but there were a whole list of commonalities between us.
But thats it. The things we differed in were always dismissed and easily forgotten, but the similarities were pointed out, and quite interesting.
Still, I don't think there was any fate or destiny or cosmic oddity about the whole thing. Just coincedences.
While I happily admit there are some very odd coincedences between Lincoln and Kennedy, I just don't see them as more than a curiosity.
QUOTE (Camozotz @ May 15 2008, 06:20 PM)
Its very interesting, but a bunch of coincidences. Some are just myths while others are true. Yes, there is more similarities than almost any two people in the world, but there is no scientific evidence to show that they are closely related.
no scientific prrof eh?
well tell me camozotz considering 3 quarters of the world believe in some kind of omnipotent being and worship him based with no scientific proof but merely faith then how can u possibly use that as an arguement
a lot of things dont have scientific proof it doesnt mean there not true
QUOTE (Elite @ May 15 2008, 10:42 PM)
no scientific prrof eh?
well tell me camozotz considering 3 quarters of the world believe in some kind of omnipotent being and worship him based with no scientific proof but merely faith then how can u possibly use that as an arguement
a lot of things dont have scientific proof it doesnt mean there not true
well tell me camozotz considering 3 quarters of the world believe in some kind of omnipotent being and worship him based with no scientific proof but merely faith then how can u possibly use that as an arguement
a lot of things dont have scientific proof it doesnt mean there not true
but i'd be willing to bet that nearly everybody that believes in god was brought up that way and did'nt pick it up on their own.i was brought up that way,but as i got older i read things that convinced me in a higher power.
these things were'nt scientific mind you,but spiritual proof to me.i respect the right for everybody to believe or not believe.i do'nt go wearing my religion on my sleeve.
QUOTE (Elite @ May 15 2008, 04:16 PM)
so the other coincidences mean nothing to u?
Look, when one of the main planks of any argument is proven to be a lie, a fraud, a hoax it surely behooves us to get really suspicious about the other planks as well.
QUOTE (openmind1963 @ May 15 2008, 11:30 PM)
but i'd be willing to bet that nearly everybody that believes in god was brought up that way and did'nt pick it up on their own.
I'd win that bet since I have several Christian and Jewish friends who were brought up by parents who were either atheists or agnostics. One of Madalyn Murray O'Hair's sons pastors a mainstream Christian church. Why don't such things count?
But lemme share somthing.
Strange things have been going on.
in many catigories
somthing is up
and i am on the hunt
QUOTE (*fang* @ May 16 2008, 12:35 AM)
But lemme share somthing.
Strange things have been going on.
in many catigories
somthing is up
and i am on the hunt
strange things in many categories?
what are u talking about
QUOTE (OldTimeRadio @ May 15 2008, 11:58 PM)
Look, when one of the main planks of any argument is proven to be a lie, a fraud, a hoax it surely behooves us to get really suspicious about the other planks as well.
hey thats just one out of a very long list
if u were expecting every one of them to be true from the beggining then u obviously not familiar with the idea of 'researching' and along the way finding things are fake or untrue is a part of that and although one of these turned out to be false it doesnt make any of the others any less true
QUOTE (Elite @ May 21 2008, 07:28 PM)
hey thats just one out of a very long list
if u were expecting every one of them to be true from the beggining then u obviously not familiar with the idea of 'researching' and along the way finding things are fake or untrue is a part of that and although one of these turned out to be false it doesnt make any of the others any less true
if u were expecting every one of them to be true from the beggining then u obviously not familiar with the idea of 'researching' and along the way finding things are fake or untrue is a part of that and although one of these turned out to be false it doesnt make any of the others any less true
Or you could do some research and find out which ones actually are true, instead of just assuming that they all are even after being shown that the list is inaccurate.
What happened to logic?
QUOTE (Raptor @ May 21 2008, 07:45 PM)
Or you could do some research and find out which ones actually are true, instead of just assuming that they all are even after being shown that the list is inaccurate.
What happened to logic?
What happened to logic?
actually im the one that researched and proved that the one about kennedys assisstant was untrue and it was methat researched multiple times to check the verification of the otheres on the list
so b4 u go start making comments like im not doing anything why dont u look at the previous post and have a long hard THINK!!
here my most detailed list to date
Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.
Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.
Lincoln ’s secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy’s Secretary was named Lincoln .
Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln , was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln , was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.
Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.
Hang on to your seats Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford'.
Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln' made by ‘Ford'.
Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theater.
Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.
A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
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Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.
Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.
Lincoln ’s secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy’s Secretary was named Lincoln .
Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln , was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln , was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.
Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.
Hang on to your seats Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford'.
Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln' made by ‘Ford'.
Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theater.
Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.
A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
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QUOTE (Elite @ Jul 9 2008, 06:12 PM)
Hang on to your seats Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford'. Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln' made by 'Ford.'
Yes, I suppose you can say that relates Kennedy to Lincoln, but how does it relate Lincoln to Kennedy? He didn't arrive at Ford's Theater in a "Kennedy" carriage.
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A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
This is a JOKE added to the list after it had already been circulated for years. The version I know best has Kennedy "IN" Marilyn Monroe.
And "a week before Kennedy was shot" Marilyn Monroe had been DEAD for approximately a year!
QUOTE (OldTimeRadio @ Jul 10 2008, 12:22 AM)
Yes, I suppose you can say that relates Kennedy to Lincoln, but how does it relate Lincoln to Kennedy? He didn't arrive at Ford's Theater in a "Kennedy" carriage.
This is a JOKE added to the list after it had already been circulated for years. The version I know best has Kennedy "IN" Marilyn Monroe.
And "a week before Kennedy was shot" Marilyn Monroe had been DEAD for approximately a year!
This is a JOKE added to the list after it had already been circulated for years. The version I know best has Kennedy "IN" Marilyn Monroe.
And "a week before Kennedy was shot" Marilyn Monroe had been DEAD for approximately a year!
hmmmmmmmmm
yeah im gonna go ahead and say that part was wrong
and im gonna remember that joke about kennedy being IN marilyn monroe for later lol thats a pretty good joke
QUOTE (Elite @ Jul 9 2008, 06:12 PM)
here my most detailed list to date
Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.
Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.
Lincoln ’s secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy’s Secretary was named Lincoln .
Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln , was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln , was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.
Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.
Hang on to your seats Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford'.
Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln' made by ‘Ford'.
Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theater.
Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.
A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
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Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.
Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.
Lincoln ’s secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy’s Secretary was named Lincoln .
Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln , was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln , was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.
Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.
Hang on to your seats Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford'.
Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln' made by ‘Ford'.
Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theater.
Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.
A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
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Seriously mate, read the snopes article. It lists out, point by point, why this is completely meaningless.
The only coincidence is that they were both really nice guys who actually gave a toss about people and were assassinated for their trouble.
Much like John Lennon, why are all the good guys shot?
Much like John Lennon, why are all the good guys shot?
QUOTE (weareallsuckers @ Jul 10 2008, 10:51 AM)
The only coincidence is that they were both really nice guys who actually gave a toss about people and were assassinated for their trouble.
Much like John Lennon, why are all the good guys shot?
Much like John Lennon, why are all the good guys shot?
Short answer. So the anal-retentive ones can stay in or achieve power.
cormac
QUOTE (OldTimeRadio @ Jul 10 2008, 12:22 AM)
This is a JOKE added to the list after it had already been circulated for years. The version I know best has Kennedy "IN" Marilyn Monroe.
And "a week before Kennedy was shot" Marilyn Monroe had been DEAD for approximately a year!
And "a week before Kennedy was shot" Marilyn Monroe had been DEAD for approximately a year!
Dang! The Marilyn Monroe one was my favorite, too...
QUOTE (cormac mac airt @ Jul 10 2008, 07:49 PM)
Short answer. So the anal-retentive ones can stay in or achieve power.
cormac
cormac
speak the truth BROTHER!
lol
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