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P.Nomenon
There are many misconceptions about the year 2012. Here is what I believe. I think 2012 is expected to be year of great positive change. It is not the end of the world! Back in 1899 something was identified called Schumann Cavity Resonance. It is the heart beat or frequency of the Earth. Since its discovery till 1986 this heart beat frequency was constant 7.8 Hertz per second. From 1986 it started to raise dramatically and in 1998 it was reported to be 10 hertz per second. On other hand magnetics of the earth are dropping dramatically and it is expected they will reach zero point in 2012. Maya calendar and other calendars end in 2012, but it is not the end of the world just beginning of the new one since every 26000 years Earth goes through grand cycle of evolution.

Here are some beliefs, do you guys believe any of this?
http://www.timstouse.com/EarthChanges/poleshift.htm
Darkdestroyer
I hope you're right. Unfortunately pretty much everything I've heard about 2012 is linked to doom and destruction, firstly the Mayans but also this group called the Weavers who going to release some information about what Jesus really beleived that is set to cause alot of problems.

This film has the info: http://www.history-of-the-cathars.com/

but I do hope your theory is more along the right tracks, I'm not ready to die in 2012 and surely we don't want the world to get any worse.
brahman1888
Read the Mayan Code if you want to hear a different theory, one not advocating the coming of armageddon.
Kamazar
So many rumors and theories, but for those who think because the Mayan calendar ends at 2012 it'll be the end of the world, I have an explanation.
yes.gif
I just hope I'll be able to see the Iron Man trilogy if the end IS near.

There are apparently 12 signs of the end of the world, right here. Of course, they're written by religious nuts, but it's worth reading...I guess.

Good but creepy article, P.Nomenon. Strange though, that it says nothing about occurences in the 2000s, and there have been several. The page has been modified in December 9, 2007, so...
Rosewin
The aliens will come and claim they have always been with us and helped us long ago teaching us many things. Do not believe them they are demons in disguise. That is my view on what will happen if they come. End of the world? I do not think so but we have already strained the Earth far beyond what is can handle and it cannot go on much longer without alot of people dying.
Moro
2012 will happen, that is unless humans die out before that year.
Hmm
Ok, first Schumann resonance is named after the man who predicted it, Winfried Schumann, in the early 50's. Not sure where you get 1899. Second, you state that it'll be a "new begining", then state that the magnetic field will reach zero.... Well it may be a new begining, but not for most living things on Earth, since that is our protection from the suns radiation. Perhaps a new race of cockroach men?
Harte
QUOTE (Hmm @ May 12 2008, 12:07 PM) *
Ok, first Schumann resonance is named after the man who predicted it, Winfried Schumann, in the early 50's. Not sure where you get 1899. Second, you state that it'll be a "new begining", then state that the magnetic field will reach zero.... Well it may be a new begining, but not for most living things on Earth, since that is our protection from the suns radiation. Perhaps a new race of cockroach men?

Several times in the past the geomagnetic field strength has fallen to zero, yet no such time has been reliably associated with any extinction event at all, not even the least extensive.

Harte
Hmm
Well, several times in the past the geomagnetic field has flipped, (north pole to south pole and visa versa). That probably doesn't happen via the total magnetic force reaching zero as opposed to pole migration, (barring some sort of catastrophic trauma, i.e. asteroid impact).
phoeton2000
QUOTE (Darkdestroyer @ May 9 2008, 02:25 PM) *
but I do hope your theory is more along the right tracks, I'm not ready to die in 2012 and surely we don't want the world to get any worse.


agree that at the very least it's good hearing an alternative theory on 2012. but personally I don't really buy any of this 2012 stuff whether it's from the weavers, the mayans, the illuminati or anyone else. bad sh!t happens when it happens for historical reasons, not because it was predicted to happen at some date.
Aanica
QUOTE (P.Nomenon @ May 7 2008, 08:08 PM) *
There are many misconceptions about the year 2012. Here is what I believe. I think 2012 is expected to be year of great positive change. It is not the end of the world! Back in 1899 something was identified called Schumann Cavity Resonance. It is the heart beat or frequency of the Earth. Since its discovery till 1986 this heart beat frequency was constant 7.8 Hertz per second. From 1986 it started to raise dramatically and in 1998 it was reported to be 10 hertz per second. On other hand magnetics of the earth are dropping dramatically and it is expected they will reach zero point in 2012. Maya calendar and other calendars end in 2012, but it is not the end of the world just beginning of the new one since every 26000 years Earth goes through grand cycle of evolution.

Here are some beliefs, do you guys believe any of this?
http://www.timstouse.com/EarthChanges/poleshift.htm
yes I do ,the poles are shifting it is not new to earth just to our generation .This earth has been here a long time and I believe will be here a lot longer, mother nature is brutal in her survivel and so will be this planet only the most ruthless of animals and plants survive natural selection we may be next on the hit list or a big number of us.
Papaver
Nothing will happen aside from the usual random natural events and man made projects that go on today and will go on in 2012 and 13 and 14 and...

There is nothing special about the year 2012. The Mayans didn't make their calenders go past that date because to them it was a long time into the future. It's exactly like my old Casio watch only going to 1999. In 1983 when they made it they didn't expect it to still be in use so they didn't waste bits making the calendar go any further. The Mayans were no different, what were they supposed to do? Carve a calender that was infinately long every time they needed one? No, it only went up to a certain date, just like the one in my kitchen ends in 2008 and this does not mean the world will change or end in 2009 because that's where it stops.

I can't understand the mentality of this calendar panic. Quite frankly it is daft. Even if the world does end in 2012 it'll be nothing to do with the Mayan calendar or any other oddball prophecy.
Aanica
QUOTE (Kamazar @ May 9 2008, 11:30 AM) *
So many rumors and theories, but for those who think because the Mayan calendar ends at 2012 it'll be the end of the world, I have an explanation.
yes.gif
I just hope I'll be able to see the Iron Man trilogy if the end IS near.

There are apparently 12 signs of the end of the world, right here. Of course, they're written by religious nuts, but it's worth reading...I guess.

Good but creepy article, P.Nomenon. Strange though, that it says nothing about occurences in the 2000s, and there have been several. The page has been modified in December 9, 2007, so...

Good one lol...
Harte
QUOTE (Hmm @ May 12 2008, 01:31 PM) *
Well, several times in the past the geomagnetic field has flipped, (north pole to south pole and visa versa). That probably doesn't happen via the total magnetic force reaching zero as opposed to pole migration, (barring some sort of catastrophic trauma, i.e. asteroid impact).

However, that is the current theory and it's based on paleogeomagnetic readings.

Currently it is thought that a slow reduction (to zero) in the geomagnetic field strength precedes a "flip" of the geomagnetic poles.

Then a slow increase (back to average strength) occurs after the flip.

BTW, no catastrophe is necessary for this type of flip to occur, and no past catastrophe has ever been detected to have been associated with a geomagnetic pole "switching" event.

Harte
Marcus
The more that I think about it.. the more it seems like perhaps the calendar may have just stopped at that exact date. The Mayans couldn't go on forever with the calendar.
Papaver
^^^

Especially as they were often carving the damn things in stone...
P.Nomenon
The planet will not be destroyed, but we will rather become more aware of our surroundings and we will begin to change as people of this planet.
P.Nomenon
QUOTE (Hmm @ May 12 2008, 01:07 PM) *
Ok, first Schumann resonance is named after the man who predicted it, Winfried Schumann, in the early 50's. Not sure where you get 1899. Second, you state that it'll be a "new begining", then state that the magnetic field will reach zero.... Well it may be a new begining, but not for most living things on Earth, since that is our protection from the suns radiation. Perhaps a new race of cockroach men?


It was in 1899 that scientist Nikola Tesla discovered them, and it was in 1952 that Dr. Winfried Otto Schumann, professor of Electrical Engineering at the Technical University, Munich, detected the resonance. Dr. Schumann measured the Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) band of these vibrating electromagnetic waves.

here
Cadetak
Isn't most of the 2012 theories based off of astrology and numerology? And of course the prophecies of the ancients?

Does this seem like a very logical thing to base an apocolypse theory off of?
Razer
QUOTE (P.Nomenon @ May 12 2008, 10:49 PM) *
The planet will not be destroyed, but we will rather become more aware of our surroundings and we will begin to change as people of this planet.


Now that would be a good thing do matter what the year. I hope that happens in 2009, we could use a bit of enlightenment.
xFRANCOx
QUOTE (Cadetak @ May 13 2008, 02:57 AM) *
Isn't most of the 2012 theories based off of astrology and numerology? And of course the prophecies of the ancients?

Does this seem like a very logical thing to base an apocolypse theory off of?

theories of 2012 aren't the same as apocalypse theories their 2 diferent things.
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