Sporkling
May 8 2008, 02:00 PM
Normal people of the society.
In the world of today, people are thought to be very cold, unfriendly and wary of other people and quite unwilling to help. But there are stories of people donating lots of money to ecomomically bad countries or they send money and aid over to help someone in distress. Can we still say people are cold? Or are they keeping their warmer hearts somewhere where it is not found until the need comes?
WEREGIRL666
May 8 2008, 02:11 PM
i really hate humanity you can see what they are doing wrong just based upon how they act to the people on the street and the earth if you cant respect your brothers and your planet which gave you life...then how can you not be cold hearted? People donate not for the sake of others it makes them feel good...its quiet selfish who would donate 500$?? becides oprah?
sumthingnice60
May 8 2008, 02:22 PM
QUOTE (WEREGIRL666 @ May 8 2008, 07:11 AM)

People donate not for the sake of others it makes them feel good...its quiet selfish who would donate 500$?? becides oprah?
It's very ignorant to say something like this. There are plenty of people out there for the sake of helping others. There are lots of anonymous donors, too. Also, we in America mostly hear about American donors even though there are people all around the world doing good for others. Besides, donating money isn't the only way to help people.
bogcreeper
May 8 2008, 02:23 PM
The more coldness one sees in the actions of others, the colder the shoulder that person will give others. I blame the media for ingniting this "cold fire". We see cold morals coming from others which makes us naturally less trusting of humanity. With the media preying on negatives, there is very little room for stories on good deeds and actions. Yes, some people may donate because it makes them feel good, but I believe that goodness is the feeling of helping others that are in need for the most part. When you see positive actions coming from others it should not make you weary of the situation, but instead give you a feeling that if you ever where in a dire situation that others will be there to help. To think otherwise is giving in to the dark side.
See darkness when their is light, you should not ...
WEREGIRL666
May 8 2008, 02:26 PM
QUOTE (sumthingnice60 @ May 8 2008, 09:22 AM)

It's very ignorant to say something like this. There are plenty of people out there for the sake of helping others. There are lots of anonymous donors, too. Also, we in America mostly hear about American donors even though there are people all around the world doing good for others. Besides, donating money isn't the only way to help people.
i didnt say all people wont help but most dont give two shutters.. its true and truth hurts i guess... i went to mongolia for a year to teach. its unbelive able we are so well off and over there they eat marmets and they still give more then we do
no goodness is doing the right thing even if you dont feel good about it
sumthingnice60
May 8 2008, 02:28 PM
QUOTE (WEREGIRL666 @ May 8 2008, 07:25 AM)

i didnt say all people wont help but most dont give two shutters.. its true and truth hurts i guess... i went to mongolia for a year to teach. its unbelive able we are so well off and over there they eat marmets and they still give more then we do
I agree that some do donate for the sake of bragging rights, feeling proud of themselves, etc. I guess there is a problem with our culture too. We focus more on economical and social growth and yet we forget about our fellow humans. And the amount of money spent on reality shows these days is just sickening. It makes me sad just thinking about it.
WEREGIRL666
May 8 2008, 02:34 PM
QUOTE (sumthingnice60 @ May 8 2008, 09:28 AM)

I agree that some do donate for the sake of bragging rights, feeling proud of themselves, etc. I guess there is a problem with our culture too. We focus more on economical and social growth and yet we forget about our fellow humans. And the amount of money spent on reality shows these days is just sickening. It makes me sad just thinking about it.
While people in other countries are starving themselves and still find food for the kids and parents who cant hunt...i remember being a kid in mexico my mom was poor we had a home though...we saw poor kids on the street and i thought. “Wow my mom makes food for these people whos only wrong doing was being born poor. Nothing bad just wrong time and place.” ever since then i saw how people would help the homeless and also make fun and spit on them. Humanity is sickening but there are few who care
bogcreeper
May 8 2008, 02:44 PM
QUOTE (WEREGIRL666 @ May 8 2008, 10:34 AM)

While people in other countries are starving themselves and still find food for the kids and parents who cant hunt...i remember being a kid in mexico my mom was poor we had a home though...we saw poor kids on the street and i thought. “Wow my mom makes food for these people whos only wrong doing was being born poor. Nothing bad just wrong time and place.” ever since then i saw how people would help the homeless and also make fun and spit on them. Humanity is sickening but there are few who care
Humanity is sickening ... because they are sick. Again if we are only going to see ill actions in others, others actions are only going to make you ill.
There is good in this world Master Frodo .... good that is worth fighting for
it seems that the heroes in the movies end are the ones that seem to keep everything on tract until then
WEREGIRL666
May 8 2008, 02:48 PM
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ May 8 2008, 09:44 AM)

Humanity is sickening ... because they are sick. Again if we are only going to see ill actions in others, others actions are only going to make you ill.
There is good in this world Master Frodo .... good that is worth fighting for
it seems that the heroes in the movies end are the ones that seem to keep everything on tract until then
LMAO even frodo went ill..........tell me when did you give change to the man begging on the street? or donate to the kid who has a parasite because she has no clean water. or go to the elderly neighbor and give him a space heater?
WEREGIRL666
May 8 2008, 02:52 PM
i must go class is starting and my last day is tomarrow
Irish
May 8 2008, 02:58 PM
The best way to see the good in this world is to
surround yourself with those kind of people that are willing to give back to society and make the necessary changes. As a deputy governor for a national service club I meet these kinds of people on a daily basis. Everyday people from all walks of life, rich and poor. They man the soup kitchens build the playgrounds, arenas, hospitals, shelters and whatever is needed to make their communities and countries a better place. Your time is a far greater gift than your money
I joined a service club 16 years ago, it has been extremely rewarding. It’s a national service club called Kinsmen, now known as Kin Canada our goals are to serve the communities greatest needs. Our local club consists of only 33 members but we manage to raise on average over the past 15 years 1.5 Million dollars a year to give back to the community. We work hard and play hard too!!
There are similar service clubs world wide. UK it’s the Round Table, Australia its Apex International as well as world wide clubs such as Rotary and Lions clubs. It’s a great way to grow learn and make friends while giving something back to the community.
All The Best
Irish
bogcreeper
May 8 2008, 02:59 PM
QUOTE (WEREGIRL666 @ May 8 2008, 10:48 AM)

LMAO even frodo went ill..........tell me when did you give change to the man begging on the street? or donate to the kid who has a parasite because she has no clean water. or go to the elderly neighbor and give him a space heater?
or cry when I see children without food, or weep because a senior citizen is suffering because she has no air and go a christmas when I was 12 without presents because my family as a whole decided to give them to the children down the street who's father left them and would not have had even a meal to eat christmas day .... you are chastizing the wrong person. Is this not part of the problem???
bogcreeper
May 8 2008, 03:01 PM
QUOTE (Irish @ May 8 2008, 10:58 AM)

The best way to see the good in this world is to
surround yourself with those kind of people that are willing to give back to society and make the necessary changes. As a deputy governor for a national service club I meet these kinds of people on a daily basis. Everyday people from all walks of life, rich and poor. They man the soup kitchens build the playgrounds, arenas, hospitals, shelters and whatever is needed to make their communities and countries a better place. Your time is a far greater gift than your money
I joined a service club 16 years ago, it has been extremely rewarding. It’s a national service club called Kinsmen, now known as Kin Canada our goals are to serve the communities greatest needs. Our local club consists of only 33 members but we manage to raise on average over the past 15 years 1.5 Million dollars a year to give back to the community. We work hard and play hard too!!
There are similar service clubs world wide. UK it’s the Round Table, Australia its Apex International as well as world wide clubs such as Rotary and Lions clubs. It’s a great way to grow learn and make friends while giving something back to the community.
All The Best
Irish
a big reason why I love this web site ... other people with a clue.
WEREGIRL666
May 9 2008, 12:30 PM
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ May 8 2008, 09:59 AM)

or cry when I see children without food, or weep because a senior citizen is suffering because she has no air and go a christmas when I was 12 without presents because my family as a whole decided to give them to the children down the street who's father left them and would not have had even a meal to eat christmas day .... you are chastizing the wrong person. Is this not part of the problem???
look around who eles does that? huh the poeple who should? like feaking hollywood? no the small people and there aint enough of us so dont go saying im chastizing you becasue i dont care. really i dont . not i dont care bout the kids i just dont care bout what u think my point is. i proving that evil is all around and hell ...im statanic!! and christans blame us when really they can be blamed as well... people who think they are good just by prayer are just being fooled. im glad you help good for you and christmas i never had one. i was kicked out when i was 10 so i went to irerland then came to the US. let me ask you have you been homeless?? people are crule they spit at you make fun of you even beat you. at 10 ok? so no i dont even give a care to chastize you. why would i chastize you i didnt say you where bad did i? no im telling you what happend.
bogcreeper
May 9 2008, 12:43 PM
QUOTE (WEREGIRL666 @ May 9 2008, 08:30 AM)

look around who eles does that? huh the poeple who should? like feaking hollywood? no the small people and there aint enough of us so dont go saying im chastizing you becasue i dont care. really i dont . not i dont care bout the kids i just dont care bout what u think my point is. i proving that evil is all around and hell ...im statanic!! and christans blame us when really they can be blamed as well... people who think they are good just by prayer are just being fooled. im glad you help good for you and christmas i never had one. i was kicked out when i was 10 so i went to irerland then came to the US. let me ask you have you been homeless?? people are crule they spit at you make fun of you even beat you. at 10 ok? so no i dont even give a care to chastize you. why would i chastize you i didnt say you where bad did i? no im telling you what happend.
Your satanic!!! Whoopty dooo! I knew that and that does not in one way affect the way that I would treat you.
Have I been homeless ... spent the first two years of my life on a riverbank and that is no lie, just cannot say that I remember it.
Yes, you are right you did not say that I was bad, but with the overload of empathy that I feel from others, I cannot seem to let anyone knock on that, it is hell enough that I have to be this way and feel the pains of others like I do.
Freaking Hollywood? Being satanic I thought you would worship hollywood.
Evil is around us and is winning ... sad but true.
WEREGIRL666
May 9 2008, 12:50 PM
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ May 9 2008, 07:43 AM)

Your satanic!!! Whoopty dooo! I knew that and that does not in one way affect the way that I would treat you.
Have I been homeless ... spent the first two years of my life on a riverbank and that is no lie, just cannot say that I remember it.
Yes, you are right you did not say that I was bad, but with the overload of empathy that I feel from others, I cannot seem to let anyone knock on that, it is hell enough that I have to be this way and feel the pains of others like I do.
Freaking Hollywood? Being satanic I thought you would worship hollywood.
Evil is around us and is winning ... sad but true.
then y u aginst what i say? and no i worship myself....
Belle.
May 11 2008, 12:46 PM
QUOTE (Sporkling @ May 8 2008, 02:00 PM)

Normal people of the society.
In the world of today, people are thought to be very cold, unfriendly and wary of other people and quite unwilling to help. But there are stories of people donating lots of money to ecomomically bad countries or they send money and aid over to help someone in distress. Can we still say people are cold? Or are they keeping their warmer hearts somewhere where it is not found until the need comes?
Um.... I'll disagree. I think our sphere of concern is wider than it has ever been. Hopefully it will get even bigger too
WEREGIRL666
May 12 2008, 12:12 PM
QUOTE (Belle. @ May 11 2008, 07:46 AM)

Um.... I'll disagree. I think our sphere of concern is wider than it has ever been. Hopefully it will get even bigger too

are you kidding me? if anything the world cares less. back in the day people like boys never talked about sex in public! now? they flaunt it and its because of our media. poeple give shure a dollar a year still its something...something to make them feel good about themselves so they can sleep at night.
Purplos
May 12 2008, 03:56 PM
Whatever you pay attention to becomes the focus. The more you look for something, the more you will find it.
Yes, there is a lot of bad in the world. Lots of selfishness and greed. But a heck of a lot of good and kindness to. It's the overall vs. the individual, and I think it impossible to judge, and I refuse to stereotype.
My 10-year-old son's new motto: "complaining never stops the rain." And who was it, Ghandi? "Be the change you wish to see."
bogcreeper
May 12 2008, 04:06 PM
QUOTE (WEREGIRL666 @ May 9 2008, 08:50 AM)

then y u aginst what i say? and no i worship myself....
I dont know maybe I didnt understand what you where saying or maybe you get used to people being against you and assumed that I was too.
Aora
May 12 2008, 04:11 PM
QUOTE (Purplos @ May 12 2008, 03:56 PM)

Whatever you pay attention to becomes the focus. The more you look for something, the more you will find it.
Yes, there is a lot of bad in the world. Lots of selfishness and greed. But a heck of a lot of good and kindness to. It's the overall vs. the individual, and I think it impossible to judge, and I refuse to stereotype.
My 10-year-old son's new motto: "complaining never stops the rain." And who was it, Ghandi? "Be the change you wish to see."
Exactly...the law of attraction states you become (and are surrounded by) what you think about most.
Bella-Angelique
May 12 2008, 04:12 PM
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ May 8 2008, 10:23 AM)

We see cold morals
I am quite taken with this terminology.
It actually does sum up well what I have been observing and what I think others have been trying to express and deal with.
It is probably part of political correctness where a dominant part of society encourages charity by groups and for groups but discourages any direct personal involvement and implies it is a stupid way to open up to an unwanted situation that will drain away time that needs to be better spent in the rat race to keep pulling ahead of the competition.
People are told that if they really want to help join the group, give your free time to the group, that the group is everything and the individual is nothing.
Or perhaps it is a spin off of bigger and bigger governments, that bigger is always better until there is nothing left of the local at all, let alone the individual.
I think I will file the term "cold morals" away as a keeper. Professional clinical morality.
Tiggs
May 12 2008, 04:22 PM
QUOTE (Purplos @ May 12 2008, 08:56 AM)

My 10-year-old son's new motto: "complaining never stops the rain." And who was it, Ghandi? "Be the change you wish to see."
It was Ghandi - "You must be the change you want to see in the world". There's a lot of truth in that.
Sweetsalem82103
May 12 2008, 05:24 PM
QUOTE (WEREGIRL666 @ May 9 2008, 07:30 AM)

look around who eles does that? huh the poeple who should? like feaking hollywood? no the small people and there aint enough of us so dont go saying im chastizing you becasue i dont care. really i dont . not i dont care bout the kids i just dont care bout what u think my point is. i proving that evil is all around and hell ...im statanic!! and christans blame us when really they can be blamed as well... people who think they are good just by prayer are just being fooled. im glad you help good for you and christmas i never had one. i was kicked out when i was 10 so i went to irerland then came to the US. let me ask you have you been homeless?? people are crule they spit at you make fun of you even beat you. at 10 ok? so no i dont even give a care to chastize you. why would i chastize you i didnt say you where bad did i? no im telling you what happend.

I've been homeless as well. Not a fun thing. But I can't say that I'm not happy it happened. I gained so much respect for others that are or have been in that same position. Alot of people automatically assume that people become homeless because of their own bad choices. . .and, while that is true in some cases, I met many more that were just victims of circumstance. I got kicked out as well. My mother was a bit. . ."crazy" at the time. I lost my job because I had no way to get there. .I couldn't get another job, even though I tried. . If it wouldn't have been for a handful of good people that helped me, there is a good chance that I would still be in the same position or worse. Strangely enough, the ones that helped me were those that could barely help themselves. . .yet they still reached out a hand to someone in an even worse position. I agree that there seems to be too few people willing to help just for the sake of helping. . . Some people simply don't care. They're doing good, and that's all that matters. I never understood these people that have millions of dollars and live their lives just to get more and never think too hard about giving to those that really need it. In my current position, I can't afford to give, but I still do. Maybe its just the experiences? If you never experience the hardships of being poor or homeless, then you don't really know the truth of it. . .they can make excuses for NOT helping. . .The phrase "Get a job you bum" comes to mind. . .but its not as easy as that. It always brings tears to my eyes to meet a person that has dedicated their lives to helping others. . .truly helping others with no gain to themselves other than the satisfaction of being a good person.
Camozotz
May 12 2008, 09:26 PM
Yes, but the fact of the matter is, theres only a small minority that actually donate money, let alone a big contribution. The world is in fact, a pretty cruel place, but theres not much we can do. People will be cruel just to be accepted by others.
WEREGIRL666
May 14 2008, 12:21 PM
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ May 12 2008, 11:06 AM)

I dont know maybe I didnt understand what you where saying or maybe you get used to people being against you and assumed that I was too.
i didnt untill you said i was being mean to you sorry im not a mean person. im like a puppy!!
briks hithouse
May 14 2008, 11:00 PM
i wudnt say the world is any worse/ more evil than it has been in the past.
admitedly thers lots of fuxed up shiz that happens everyday all over the world, but then we are lucky enough to live in a time were more people than at any other time on history
have acess to healthcare/education/food/water/shelter, obviously we have a hell of a long way to go but i dont think we are in an any more evil time than say 200 hundred years ago.
chances are if u were born 200 years ago u wud probably be some sort of serf or prole working incredibly hard for little or no money for ur master/lanlord etc..
now this does happen today but percentage wise its really not so bad.
people love to go on about how bad everything is and yea.... a lot of the world is harsh but we are lucky enough to live in a time with the longest life expectancy ever. this point in time is better than 200/500/1000 years ago. even a hundred years ago life was a thousaned times harder, the technology/medicine etc just wasnt there, u were a hell of a lot more likely to die of some horrible disease a lot younger than now.
as regards people i mean we tend to live in huge cities nowadays which i guess breeds a certain indifference toward other people etc.. but i think thats only natural, people always say how horrible everyone is in a city especially where i am in london, but then all my freinds and nearly all the people i know i genuinly nice people who try to live in a decent humanistic way, and im sure this is true of most people. a million kind heart-warming unex[ected charitable things happen everyday in a city like london u just dont hear about them, they dont sell papers.
i dunno im ranting maybe im just optimistic, and i realise how messed up most of the world is, i just dont think its any worse than it has been in the past and i dont think the inequality and corruption is down to normal average everyday people.
im glad i was born at this point in history and not 700 years ago, we have a lot to b thankful for i just think people love to moan about how bad everything is wen really its not, humans are at an early evolutionry stage and we obviously have a lot to do to improve the majorities lot, but in general this is happening it just takes a long long time.
whhhoooo lots of words, dunno if that makes any sense.
peas.
anonymous224
May 14 2008, 11:17 PM
I could be wrong, but maybe the world has always been this evil and now we're just not hiding it anymore? Far fetched I know. And no, I've never been homeless, i don't know what that's like, but does the phrase "look out for number one" sound familiar to anyone? Maybe that's why the world is so twisted. We're surrounded by things that tell us that WE ARE ALL THAT MATTERS. There's hardly a value of human life anymore! Another thing, what's with all the finger pointing? It's always everyone else that is wrong, never the person saying it, oh no, they're always perfect. I forget who posted the Ghandi quote but seriously! Listen to Ghandi! I think he was a pretty cool guy! These are just thoughts from the world I know. But I'm young. I don't know much outside of the hustle and bustle of Orlando. I'm probably wrong! How I can be wrong just stating some ideas of mine, I have no clue! but someone probably will tell me that I'm wrong!
Ausaria
Jun 2 2008, 03:56 AM
I'd say the human instinct will always keep just about every person concerned for their own survival first. Creatures in general are at the core, a selfish creation. And that's why we still exist.
MissMelsWell
Jun 3 2008, 07:45 AM
I try to be the change I want to see in my community.
I found out the hard way that's it's nearly impossible to change the world... what I did find though is that you can first start at home, then branch out to your community; in that order.
I'm also a die hard believer in responsible giving. I know, it sounds crazy... but I won't give to any cause I haven't fully investigated. I give generous dollars to some organizations specifically. I give generous time and no dollars to others.
You likely will NOT find me giving money to homeless people... but you might find me offering a blanket, shoes, or clothing. Or, I have been known to go into a restaurant and get lunch, and purchase an additional lunch to give to someone homeless. I often buy a cup of coffee for the homeless guy who sits outside my local starbucks with a sign "Homeless Please Help". He's been there every day for 3 years. I'm sure someone has tried to "help" as his sign asks, but sometimes, homeless people like their lives just how they are. I rather suspect this gentleman is NOT homeless though. Doesn't stop me from picking up a cup of coffee for him. Give him money? Never. Coffee, yes, a bottle of water, yes, a sandwich, yes, a nice smile and a conversation about the weather, yes. I even told him once that I'd help him find a safe place to live where he could work for his board and a small stipend (I know of a few places he could do that) and he declined. It's his life to conduct as he sees fit.
I give to food banks in the summer time when their food reserves are at their lowest, never during the holidays when everyone and their brother donating.
The chairity that gets my money (big chunks of it) is a local childrens charity where I know every single penny goes toward "uncompensated health care" meaning, it pays for childrens doctor bills who don't have insurance (or little insurance) and aren't covered by the state.
Special Olympics gets a lot of my time, and they get my old but excellent condition laptops as well. I get a new laptop nearly every year for work, the year to eighteen months old laptop gets refurbed and donated to SO. I don't care what they do with it, they can sell it, use it, give it away, whatever use they see fit is fine to me.
Giving is not something that makes me "feel good" .... it's a responsibility. And with responsibility comes a certain feeling of achievment and accomplishment that is true. But that's not a bad thing.
Recently, I've felt the pull to possibly doing some inmate job and education counseling. Finding resources for released inmates to help them stay on the straight and narrow and back in the work force. I'm still researching the best way to do this with for highest rate of success. I'm looking at a lot of volunteer programs still. So far, I haven't found quite the right one yet... but I'm working on it.
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