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ufo guy
hi, well the other thread i made on tk i accually was thinking about this, i thought it was called tk. so... im making a new one cause im cool like that, ok so im trying to learn TELEPATHY and need advise on how to practice, with and without people thanks grin2.gif
Moro
QUOTE (zanpukto @ May 9 2008, 06:08 PM) *
hi, well the other thread i made on tk i accually was thinking about this, i thought it was called tk. so... im making a new one cause im cool like that, ok so im trying to learn TELEPATHY and need advise on how to practice, with and without people thanks grin2.gif

First of all! Do you even know what telepathy is?
ufo guy
QUOTE (Moro Bumbleroot @ May 9 2008, 02:12 PM) *
First of all! Do you even know what telepathy is?

yes the communicating to another being through the mind
Moro
QUOTE (zanpukto @ May 9 2008, 06:17 PM) *
yes the communicating to another being through the mind

Good! Now how do you think this could happen, from your point of view?
ufo guy
QUOTE (Moro Bumbleroot @ May 9 2008, 02:18 PM) *
Good! Now how do you think this could happen, from your point of view?

well my understanding is that your brain waves can travel to each others brain and when you use telepathy you send a message

lol am i close?
Drayno
I believe in Telepathy to a tolerable degree, not like the Jean Grey kind. I suppose that considering the brain is not fully understood, one could eventually send brain waves to the extent of actual messages that could be comprehendable.
Moro
QUOTE (zanpukto @ May 9 2008, 06:22 PM) *
well my understanding is that your brain waves can travel to each others brain and when you use telepathy you send a message

lol am i close?

Truthfully, I really can't explaine it.

I suppose a person could send out a thought frequency, and if another person could tune into this particular
thought frequency, the process could actually work.
ufo guy
QUOTE (Moro Bumbleroot @ May 9 2008, 03:40 PM) *
Truthfully, I really can't explaine it.

I suppose a person could send out a thought frequency, and if another person could tune into this particular
thought frequency, the process could actually work.

lol ok then so do you know of anyways to practice?
Moro
QUOTE (zanpukto @ May 9 2008, 06:42 PM) *
lol ok then so do you know of anyways to practice?

Well, thats simple really! You just need to find someone willing to sit with you, (Particularly in a quite room).
Then the both of you just need to take turns sending out thoughts trying to figure out what the other is thinking.

I presume a deep relaxed state will greatly increase the odds of something happening.
Eric Raven The Skeptic
QUOTE (zanpukto @ May 9 2008, 05:42 PM) *
lol ok then so do you know of anyways to practice?

Since it has never been proven, it would be kind of hard to know how to practice it .
Drayno
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ May 9 2008, 05:49 PM) *
Since it has never been proven, it would be kind of hard to know how to practice it .

I surprisingly agree with you here.
Eric Raven The Skeptic
QUOTE (Drayno @ May 9 2008, 05:50 PM) *
I surprisingly agree with you here.

Hell has frozen over. tongue.gif
Moro
I never said Telepathy is a FACT. But, it is possible even though the odds are extremely low of it happening.
Drayno
I say if research was put into it, and the brain was better known, in the near future, it could be possible. I also believe that some people now have it. But not like a continuous ability able to be controlled. Something that unconsciously happens from time to time. tongue.gif
Moro
QUOTE (Drayno @ May 9 2008, 07:03 PM) *
I say if research was put into it, and the brain was better known, in the near future, it could be possible. I also believe that some people now have it. But not like a continuous ability able to be controlled. Something that unconsciously happens from time to time. tongue.gif

Actually, I found this rather interesting...

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Technologically enabled telepathy

Converging Technologies, a 2002 report exploring the potential for synergy among nano-, bio-, informational and cognitive technologies (NBIC) for enhancing human performance.Some people, occasionally referred to by themselves or others as "transhumanists", believe that technologically enabled telepathy, coined "technopathy", will be the inevitable future of humanity. Kevin Warwick of the University of Reading, England is one of the leading proponents of this view and has based all of his recent cybernetics research around developing practical, safe devices for directly connecting human nervous systems together with computers and with each other. He believes techno-enabled telepathy will in the future become the primary form of human communication. He predicts that this will happen by means of the principle of natural selection, through which nearly everyone will have the need for such technology for economic and social reasons

Link - Telepathy
Drayno
QUOTE (Moro Bumbleroot @ May 9 2008, 06:11 PM) *
Actually, I found this rather interesting...


Link - Telepathy

I recall reading that a while back.
Sporkling
Ahh yes. zener cards. I heard of them. They are a tool to help people to increase their telepathy as well as ESP skills.
John A Spera
This is an extensive subject. It is my understanding that the imagination when combined with reflective thinking can induce a state of mind where it can tap into the collective field of awareness. Some refer to that as remote sensing.

We are energy beings with a unique energy signature. Telepathy is when we connect with another's energy signature and exchange information. Some forms of telepathy are channeling information from unseen beings and praying in a manner described by the Book of Job.

The logical mind has a problem with telepathy in today's culture where we pratice the art of deception. Our social and political structure would not continue as it is today if telepathy was accepted as a viable reality. As a culture we are not ready to be open with each other.

Many of us have a problem with focused thought when combined with our imagination. This is what makes praticing telepathy so hard to accept. The desire for proof locks out the potential that would come from the imagination. Telepathy is like love. It is an abstract that can not be proven but it can be experienced. It is subjective.

John
SeEtHeR
Why would you want to have the ability to speak to
someone thru thoughts or which ever it may be.
Lol! Or you could just get messenger. And besides that
if the "being" the created us wanted us to be telepathic
then they wouldn't have made us with mouths and voices.
loveemotion
Didnt even read the rest..

Me and my ex friend.. proved telepathy to eb real once..
All we did is sit int he same room about 4-6 ft. from each other..

Our objectives were: To think of an object and project it to others mind with calm and deep breathing and excluding all the thoughts but that...visualize it. And the person that receives it.. has to be very relaxed.. deep breathing.. And the msot important thing.. dont not think of anything.. Just focus on the breath.. feel the breath going in and out..

You need to still your mind.. no thoughts.. and what will come that is not yours.. and you need to be sure its nto yours.. usually you do it the way you need to knwo yourself first..

I saw my projection that came form my ex friend.. in the bright white light.. with ym eyes closed.

And she got it back the same way.. so we proved it to be real.
Whoever tells you chakras dont exist.. they jsut dont know.. chakras is the training of your awareness so you could shift it to the place you need the most.. you could heal yourself an dothers... and then goes something mroe practical like telepathy and more..

loveemotion
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Why would you want to have the ability to speak to
someone thru thoughts or which ever it may be.
Lol! Or you could just get messenger. And besides that
if the "being" the created us wanted us to be telepathic
then they wouldn't have made us with mouths and voices.


Imagine you most lvoed person is in trouble and she or he cant speak.. or mayeb too far away under.. 911? if we could, which we will, evolve to that state.. it will be much easier to help and to coop... And when we get to it.. we wont need to lie or Faulsefully accuse.. or to be in fear.. it wil be too useless for us to feel those things..

so it is for the better of the human kind..
inkblot
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We are energy beings with a unique energy signature. Telepathy is when we connect with another's energy signature and exchange information. Some forms of telepathy are channeling information from unseen beings and praying in a manner described by the Book of Job.

What is this "energy" you and too many other people keep talking about?
John A Spera
QUOTE (inkblot @ May 14 2008, 05:01 PM) *
What is this "energy" you and too many other people keep talking about?


Energy in this context is like a life force. The contention is that the awareness or consciousness will manifest in a physical form we call a human being. The manifestation itself has a range of awareness or consciousness that is only a partial reflection of its full awareness. The physical form does not function without the life force, it dies. The life force will leave the body when the body becomes dis-functional.

There is a school of thought that all the things we see are a form of energy. This would imply that all the things we see have an awareness as well. This awareness has a unique energy signature or life force. That is also why there can be a dead plant and a living plant. This is a bit harder to prove with a rock or a crystal. It could be that when a rock turns to dust that the life force has left.

All the physical properties that remain after a life force has left are eventually used to form another manifestation for a form of energy.

John

Nik Xues
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ May 9 2008, 10:52 PM) *
Hell has frozen over. tongue.gif



so that explains the snow here.
Nik Xues
i beleive our mind can read every detail in our life [think chaos theory]. i beleive the state one usually needs to realise this is a half dream state [its how we can interpret somewhat erratic data.].

problem is if one must be in a half sleep we suffer from a bias or faked info [random dreams]. it would take great skill to control this bias. and even then we suffer from or is it psychology?

i have had seen and heard of several incidents. all have had this distracted state. whats freaky its a matter of thinking in your head and them responding to you as if you said it.
Nucular
QUOTE (John A Spera @ May 14 2008, 10:49 PM) *
There is a school of thought that all the things we see are a form of energy. This would imply that all the things we see have an awareness as well.

Mass = Energy

Energy ≠ Awareness

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This awareness has a unique energy signature or life force. That is also why there can be a dead plant and a living plant. This is a bit harder to prove with a rock or a crystal. It could be that when a rock turns to dust that the life force has left.

Presence or absence of a 'life force' to explain the difference between an alive and a dead organism is a lazy and archaic explanation.

Why, after thousands of years of human belief in a 'life force', are we still unable to detect it?
Sporkling
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Mass = Energy

Energy ≠ Awareness

That is in a scientifical sense. In a psychic sense, that may not be true because of the aura we all carry about us.

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Presence or absence of a 'life force' to explain the difference between an alive and a dead organism is a lazy and archaic explanation.

Why, after thousands of years of human belief in a 'life force', are we still unable to detect it?

Because it is only after we are dead, that we know about the life force, aka spirit of all things. A living person will not be able to know about all this. If we think about this, the spirit that has left the human body is the life force of the human. Therefore, how do we actually detect something so intangible and invisible? Only some people, mediums are able to see. But they are people who have little credibilty among the scientific regions? So how will they actually prove something they don't believe in like the mediums? Who are so unpredictable? Even scientists who believe in things like psychics lose credbility. Why should mediums be any different?
AngelOfMusic
If anyone has ever seen Derren Brown's trick or treat, he uses mind reading, hypnotism and all sorts of stuff like that. I don't know how useful it is, i think this is more predicting the future, but it's still very weird...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BjnAKWNoMA0&...feature=related - Derren Brown Trick Or Treat With David Tennant Part 1

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LuGlYAkAp80 - Derren Brown Trick Or Treat With David Tennant Part 2

Thinking about it, this is more related to remote viewing? Still interesting and amazing though.

Angel x
Nucular
QUOTE (Sporkling @ May 18 2008, 03:34 PM) *
That is in a scientifical sense. In a psychic sense, that may not be true because of the aura we all carry about us.

But that's what I'm saying - if psychic stuff exists, it's got the same possibility to be explored as gravity, say, or light. If we have auras which are energy fields carrying our consciousness, then there are a million unanswered questions in that. Not the least of which is, what energy? How do we know we have an aura? In what sense can an energy field be 'conscious'?

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Because it is only after we are dead, that we know about the life force, aka spirit of all things. A living person will not be able to know about all this. If we think about this, the spirit that has left the human body is the life force of the human. Therefore, how do we actually detect something so intangible and invisible?

This does beg the question - how has anybody detected this intangible, invisible 'something'? And not only detected, but, if you believe even a tiny percentage of the claims posted on this board, actually used, manipulated, developed, etc. etc.

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Only some people, mediums are able to see. But they are people who have little credibilty among the scientific regions? So how will they actually prove something they don't believe in like the mediums? Who are so unpredictable? Even scientists who believe in things like psychics lose credbility. Why should mediums be any different?

You paint a Catch-22 situation, wherein mediums are the only people able to supply scientific information, and yet are roundly rejected by the scientific community.

But they're not - there are many 'real scientists' who would happily submit mediums to proper tests; there is an intense resistance to this from the mediums themselves though. And it's not that scientists who dally with parapsychology lose credibility per se, it's when they do shoddy research into such things, with an apparent agenda to gain positive results at the expense of methodological considerations, that reputations start to suffer. Like Puthoff & Targ, Rupert Sheldrake, &c. - bad science implies a bad scientist, and yes, then your reputation will suffer.
Nucular
QUOTE (AngelOfMusic @ May 18 2008, 04:27 PM) *
If anyone has ever seen Derren Brown's trick or treat, he uses mind reading, hypnotism and all sorts of stuff like that. I don't know how useful it is, i think this is more predicting the future, but it's still very weird...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BjnAKWNoMA0&...feature=related - Derren Brown Trick Or Treat With David Tennant Part 1

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LuGlYAkAp80 - Derren Brown Trick Or Treat With David Tennant Part 2

Thinking about it, this is more related to remote viewing? Still interesting and amazing though.

Angel x

Derren Brown is amazing - but he'll be the first to tel you that his techniques have nothing to do with telepathy, remote viewing, etc. other than that this is what the effects are designed to appear to be. He is an outspoken critic of those who claim such abilities, and always makes very clear that his tricks (and treats) are achieved using "a combination of magic, psychology, showmanship and misdirection". No psychic abilities in there at all, simply an admitted master at the art of deception. Fantastic stuff, though!
Sporkling
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But that's what I'm saying - if psychic stuff exists, it's got the same possibility to be explored as gravity, say, or light. If we have auras which are energy fields carrying our consciousness, then there are a million unanswered questions in that. Not the least of which is, what energy? How do we know we have an aura? In what sense can an energy field be 'conscious'?
We know because we know. That is the answer we desire and the answer we seek. If it is not the answer you seek, I would suggest, keep looking.

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This does beg the question - how has anybody detected this intangible, invisible 'something'? And not only detected, but, if you believe even a tiny percentage of the claims posted on this board, actually used, manipulated, developed, etc. etc.
Yes I do believe. I have been attacked by people who think I should not believe. But I do believe.

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You paint a Catch-22 situation, wherein mediums are the only people able to supply scientific information, and yet are roundly rejected by the scientific community.

But they're not - there are many 'real scientists' who would happily submit mediums to proper tests; there is an intense resistance to this from the mediums themselves though. And it's not that scientists who dally with parapsychology lose credibility per se, it's when they do shoddy research into such things, with an apparent agenda to gain positive results at the expense of methodological considerations, that reputations start to suffer. Like Puthoff & Targ, Rupert Sheldrake, &c. - bad science implies a bad scientist, and yes, then your reputation will suffer.
But what I have said is what I think. You don't have to agree, nor do you have to tell me otherwise. I do not believe in the fairness of science.
Nucular
QUOTE (Sporkling @ May 18 2008, 04:36 PM) *
We know because we know. That is the answer we desire and the answer we seek. If it is not the answer you seek, I would suggest, keep looking.

Well, I'm comfortable with finding answers which are contrary to those I seek. But yes, I'll keep looking.

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Yes I do believe. I have been attacked by people who think I should not believe. But I do believe.

I hope I have not attacked you. I certainly don't think you 'should not believe'. I enjoy challenging my own beliefs though, through debate.

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But what I have said is what I think. You don't have to agree, nor do you have to tell me otherwise. I do not believe in the fairness of science.

Well I'm as happy to give my opinion as you are; you don't have to read or respond to it, of course, but as I said, I quite enjoy the debate. I think science - meaning 'the scientific method' - is intrinsically about as fair as it gets. I think we gain bias and lose rigour when we stop being critical, and accept things at face value, however extraordinary they are.
Sporkling
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I hope I have not attacked you. I certainly don't think you 'should not believe'. I enjoy challenging my own beliefs though, through debate.

No not you. We may not have the same beliefs but I do like the way you provide explainations why you do not believe instead of saying my posts are nonsense and the like.

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Well I'm as happy to give my opinion as you are; you don't have to read or respond to it, of course, but as I said, I quite enjoy the debate. I think science - meaning 'the scientific method' - is intrinsically about as fair as it gets. I think we gain bias and lose rigour when we stop being critical, and accept things at face value, however extraordinary they are.
But yet we are however, human. Can we truly be free from bias?
Nucular
QUOTE (Sporkling @ May 18 2008, 05:02 PM) *
No not you. We may not have the same beliefs but I do like the way you provide explainations why you do not believe instead of saying my posts are nonsense and the like.

Thank you; I find your posts thoughtful and intriguing. It's always interesting to talk to someone who's plainly not stupid about why they think differently.

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But yet we are however, human. Can we truly be free from bias?

No; but we can try our best! That's what I think science is about. We ask a question, then set about planning how to answer it in the least biased way possible - that way, we're stuck with the answer even if we don't like it original.gif
Sporkling
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Thank you; I find your posts thoughtful and intriguing. It's always interesting to talk to someone who's plainly not stupid about why they think differently.
I will thank you as well for understanding

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No; but we can try our best! That's what I think science is about. We ask a question, then set about planning how to answer it in the least biased way possible - that way, we're stuck with the answer even if we don't like it
Yes but possibly even the best thought out plans will not last forever. May I ask you if you agree that in years to come our people will have different views?
Nucular
QUOTE (Sporkling @ May 18 2008, 05:23 PM) *
Yes but possibly even the best thought out plans will not last forever. May I ask you if you agree that in years to come our people will have different views?

On what? I imagine our views will have changed on a great many things, and will remain the same for a great many other things.

The nature of science is that it is always a tentative process: scientific views change all the time - witness the move from Newtonian to quantum mechanical and relativistic physics, for example. Scientific theory changes to incorporate the facts, rather than the other way around.
viva revolution
I dont belive that people can actually send conversations to one antoher but more that people give off a sort of vibe, kind of like if u want some one to turn around bad enough they might get the sense that there is something worth watching behind them.
ScarlettPony
Just a thought and sort of a question: my little sister and Iusually know when something is wrong with each other. Also, when she calls me, I know it is her on the phone. I was at my other sister's house this weekend and my little sister called. I answered even though I don't make it a habit of answering other people's phones (rude). But I answered it without hesitation just because I knew it was my little sister. How is this?
John A Spera
QUOTE (ScarlettPony @ May 28 2008, 06:30 PM) *
Just a thought and sort of a question: my little sister and Iusually know when something is wrong with each other. Also, when she calls me, I know it is her on the phone. I was at my other sister's house this weekend and my little sister called. I answered even though I don't make it a habit of answering other people's phones (rude). But I answered it without hesitation just because I knew it was my little sister. How is this?


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