twisterjester
May 11 2008, 10:15 PM
I was probably 8 or 9 years old when this happened but I recall it clearly: I could walk for a fair distance without ever touching the ground. This isn't a joke and yes, I know that by all laws of physics (not to mention gravity,) it should be impossible. It nonetheless happened. Not only did I walk above the ground, but a friend of mine expressed bafflement at the time, asking how I accomplished it.
The principle was that with each step, I took the next step just before my foot hit the ground, and raising that foot before it struck, etc. - and thus moved several yards without ever touching the earth. As an adult, logic dictates that it can't be done and therefore I can no longer do anything of the sort. Even with adult logic firmly in place, though, I am sure of what occurred back in my youth.
Other people have related similar memories? Anyone else recall comparable unique abilities, either as a child or an adult?
- TwisterJester
Moonie2012
May 11 2008, 10:19 PM
You sure it wasn't a dream? I've had dreams about doing almost the exact same thing since I was a kid, right down to the technique. If I didn't still have them, they could easily seem like a memory.
Sometimes I dream that if I run fast enough, concentrate, and jump, I can fly for a distance as well. However, it doesn't last long and I always fall. The landings suck and never get any easier, sometimes they actually hurt, and I can fall from pretty high.
Eric Raven The Skeptic
May 11 2008, 10:47 PM
QUOTE (twisterjester @ May 11 2008, 05:15 PM)

I was probably 8 or 9 years old when this happened but I recall it clearly: I could walk for a fair distance without ever touching the ground. This isn't a joke and yes, I know that by all laws of physics (not to mention gravity,) it should be impossible. It nonetheless happened. Not only did I walk above the ground, but a friend of mine expressed bafflement at the time, asking how I accomplished it.
The principle was that with each step, I took the next step just before my foot hit the ground, and raising that foot before it struck, etc. - and thus moved several yards without ever touching the earth. As an adult, logic dictates that it can't be done and therefore I can no longer do anything of the sort. Even with adult logic firmly in place, though, I am sure of what occurred back in my youth.
Other people have related similar memories? Anyone else recall comparable unique abilities, either as a child or an adult?
- TwisterJester
No. At 8 or 9 you can make yourself believe a lot of things that are not true. I think thats what you did.
AND of course its your first post.
bleedingelite
May 12 2008, 02:52 PM
The science writer known as Dr. Quantum claims he did the same thing when he was a kid.
crystal sage
May 15 2008, 08:24 AM
I seem to recall a similar incident too when I was a kid, but I was running at the time... I was sure that my feet weren't touching the ground..and that it was energizing rather than tiring!
I do believe there are some Aboriginal and Shaman tales about this thing too.
crystal sage
May 15 2008, 08:44 AM
QUOTE
http://www.dukenews.duke.edu/2005/12/locomotiontheory.htmlhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/...51230083922.htm“To run or fly at optimal speed is to strike a balance between the vertical and horizontal loss of energy,” Bejan said. Simple equations based on this idea closely predicted the actual velocities of animals running over a variety of terrains and the observed wingbeat frequencies of flying birds, bats and insects, the current study reveals.“In fact, animal locomotion is no different than other flows, animate and inanimate: they all develop in space and in time such that they optimize the flow of material.” In the case of animal locomotion, this means that animals move such that they travel the greatest distance while expending the least amount of energy, he said.
“From simple physics, based only on gravity, density and mass, you can explain within an order of magnitude many features of flying, swimming and running,” added James Marden, professor of biology at Penn State. “It doesn’t matter whether the animal has eight legs, four legs, two, even if it swims with no legs.”
First conceived by Bejan and published in 1996, the constructal law arises from the basic principle that flow systems evolve so as to minimize imperfections – energy wasted to friction or other forms of resistance – such that the least amount of useful energy is lost.
The theory applies to virtually everything that moves, Bejan said. For example, his earlier work has examined how the law explains traffic flows, the cooling of small-scale electronics and river currents.
The researchers, funded by the National Science Foundation, report that the constructal law predicts universal relationships between animals’ body mass and speed, as well as the frequency and force of the strides, beats or undulations that propel their bodies forward.
mysticfog
May 15 2008, 04:58 PM
This must be a common childhood dream/fantasy.
It also reminds me of one the "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" books where the main character Arthur Dent accidentally learns how to fly by tripping up, but being so distracted by seeing something extraordinary at that same moment, that he forgets to fall.
Enigma wrapped in a puzzle
May 15 2008, 08:16 PM
another 1 post wonder
where do these people come from and go for that matter.
Promethius
May 15 2008, 08:23 PM
QUOTE
I was probably 8 or 9 years old when this happened but I recall it clearly: I could walk for a fair distance without ever touching the ground.
I had exactly the same (probably imaginary) ability, almost too the letter. I was about the same age too.
I remember 'airwalking' while holding a pair of scissors (?) very vividly.
D is here
May 15 2008, 08:24 PM
QUOTE (twisterjester @ May 11 2008, 06:15 PM)

I was probably 8 or 9 years old when this happened but I recall it clearly: I could walk for a fair distance without ever touching the ground. This isn't a joke and yes, I know that by all laws of physics (not to mention gravity,) it should be impossible. It nonetheless happened. Not only did I walk above the ground, but a friend of mine expressed bafflement at the time, asking how I accomplished it.
The principle was that with each step, I took the next step just before my foot hit the ground, and raising that foot before it struck, etc. - and thus moved several yards without ever touching the earth. As an adult, logic dictates that it can't be done and therefore I can no longer do anything of the sort. Even with adult logic firmly in place, though, I am sure of what occurred back in my youth.
Other people have related similar memories? Anyone else recall comparable unique abilities, either as a child or an adult?
- TwisterJester
It sounds like you were loping with a long stride gait... JMHO
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SpaceCadet
May 18 2008, 12:50 AM
After watching Bulletproof Monk when I was like 10, I used to be able to run and jump up and run through the air as if the air had lots of stepping stones, if this makes sense.
Of course I was merely jumping far and running etc.
But it felt soooo real, and I believed I was actually doing it successfully, however now, I don't know, I guess it was my imagination.
Seems stupid to only 'guess' it was my imagination, but thats life!
twisterjester
Jul 2 2008, 04:45 AM
QUOTE (Enigma wrapped in a puzzle @ May 15 2008, 01:16 PM)

another 1 post wonder
where do these people come from and go for that matter.
Only a 1 post wonder because I've been working so many hours. And for the record, I'm about as UN-prone to flights of imagination as they come. I have some peripheral memories associated with this phenomenon, things that are pointless out of this context.
I don't arbitrarily assume that I did what I recall, nor do I arbitrarily think I
didn't. I simply put this out there for feedback, which I received. There are enough people who replied to the affirmative that I think it's worth considering.
twisterjester
Jul 2 2008, 04:58 AM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 11 2008, 03:19 PM)

You sure it wasn't a dream? I've had dreams about doing almost the exact same thing since I was a kid, right down to the technique. If I didn't still have them, they could easily seem like a memory.
Sometimes I dream that if I run fast enough, concentrate, and jump, I can fly for a distance as well. However, it doesn't last long and I always fall. The landings suck and never get any easier, sometimes they actually hurt, and I can fall from pretty high.
Could it be a dream? Of course it could. Life itself could be a dream. You could be a figment of my imagination, your response crafted to fulfill my own desire to add substance to soul. And yes, that little vignette from my childhood could have trickled through my consciousness and bypassed the "reality" filter.
Do I think it was a dream? Not in this case. Human beings have a lot of abilities that science is only just beginning to discover (or rediscover, more accurately.) I recall limitations in the process. I could only travel so far before my feet touched the ground again. I didn't feel particularly empowered by the experience, didn't go through a religious/spiritual transformation, and recall with equal clarity some concurrent spins of fantasy,
fully cognizant that they were fantasy. There was a sharp contrast between the two. I remember having to focus, recall thinking while it was cool, it really didn't change my world. It served no logical purpose, therefore I let it fall by the proverbial wayside.
Hardly proof positive - then again, even a video wouldn't be proof positive in this day and age, and I don't have that either.
Thanks for the feedback, just the same!
darkbreed
Jul 2 2008, 07:03 AM
I had similar experiences too, I often found myself able to "slide" through the air above the ground for a longer distance before falling back down, and I remember how I enjoyed doing this. My last recalls of doing this is in my teens, around 15 or so.
I remember it as real as it completely could be, just like it happened, but in later years I've concluded that I most likely was astral projecting and not physically doing it.
But who knows! Enjoyable memories at least.
-EA
zathis
Jul 2 2008, 07:27 AM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 11 2008, 03:19 PM)

You sure it wasn't a dream? I've had dreams about doing almost the exact same thing since I was a kid, right down to the technique. If I didn't still have them, they could easily seem like a memory.
Sometimes I dream that if I run fast enough, concentrate, and jump, I can fly for a distance as well. However, it doesn't last long and I always fall. The landings suck and never get any easier, sometimes they actually hurt, and I can fall from pretty high.
i still have dreams where i can float. it's weird lol, usually in my most realistic dreams i can float
LostInThought
Jul 2 2008, 03:49 PM
I have never talked to anyone else that had something like this happen to them.
But something like this happened to me when I was around 6 years old.
I could jump really high and if I hurried up and sat indian style while I was still in the air it would make me float around but I never floated outside the house. And when I floated around apparently I was invisible to people because I floated past my parents I remember and they didn't notice.
I think this only happened to me a few times because I don't remember more much more.
I guess too it could have been a very vivid dream that just felt real. I'm not sure because it's been so long.
twisterjester
Jul 3 2008, 12:43 AM
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Jul 2 2008, 12:03 AM)

I had similar experiences too, I often found myself able to "slide" through the air above the ground for a longer distance before falling back down, and I remember how I enjoyed doing this. My last recalls of doing this is in my teens, around 15 or so.
I remember it as real as it completely could be, just like it happened, but in later years I've concluded that I most likely was astral projecting and not physically doing it.
But who knows! Enjoyable memories at least.
-EA
That's interesting. I would never have attributed the phenomenon to Astral Projection, probably because I did have at least one friend who commented on it. Can other people see you in a state of Astral Projection? I'm not as familiar with that as I probably should be...
twisterjester
Jul 3 2008, 01:11 AM
QUOTE (LostInThought @ Jul 2 2008, 08:49 AM)

I have never talked to anyone else that had something like this happen to them.
But something like this happened to me when I was around 6 years old.
I could jump really high and if I hurried up and sat indian style while I was still in the air it would make me float around but I never floated outside the house. And when I floated around apparently I was invisible to people because I floated past my parents I remember and they didn't notice.
I think this only happened to me a few times because I don't remember more much more.
I guess too it could have been a very vivid dream that just felt real. I'm not sure because it's been so long.
I'd tend to be skeptical but given my own history, anything's possible.
Just curious - now that you've presumably "outgrown" the ability, have you explored other aspects of your talents? Do you read Tarot or palms? Do you occasionally glimpse fragments of what might be tomorrow?
twisterjester
Jul 3 2008, 01:15 AM
QUOTE (crystal sage @ May 15 2008, 01:24 AM)

I seem to recall a similar incident too when I was a kid, but I was running at the time... I was sure that my feet weren't touching the ground..and that it was energizing rather than tiring!
I do believe there are some Aboriginal and Shaman tales about this thing too.
I don't recall anything particularly extraordinary about my experiences, other than the fact it may have happened in the first place. But enough other people are reporting comparable histories that I think it might be a worthwhile study. Trouble is, how do you find a child with the ability - if it exists in literal form - and document what he/she can do? It would take something with the clout of National Geographic and unlike the monks who can control their body temperatures, most children don't have the discipline to keep their heads when surrounded by cameras and such. (Which may be why they can do the things they do to begin with!)
LostInThought
Jul 3 2008, 05:12 PM
QUOTE (twisterjester @ Jul 2 2008, 08:11 PM)

I'd tend to be skeptical but given my own history, anything's possible.
Just curious - now that you've presumably "outgrown" the ability, have you explored other aspects of your talents? Do you read Tarot or palms? Do you occasionally glimpse fragments of what might be tomorrow?
Every once in awhile I can guess something is going to happen, but sometimes if I feel something is going to happen it doesn't so it is hard for me to tell which ones really will happen or which ones is just my mind coming up with stuff. Like sometimes I will "feel" someone is coming over, then 15 minutes later there is a knock at the door...or I will feel a phone call...but also like I said sometimes I feel things and they don't happen so I always thought it was just coincidense. While there are sometimes thoughts or vision in my head REALLY QUICK like a friends face or a song or something and then later that day or the next day I will see that person or hear that song. Just little things like that but I just figured that it happened to everyone. Isn't everyone like that sometimes? Because I'm not always right. I can't tell when I'm predicting something in the future or when my mind is just thinking about things.
In any case, I was thinking that maybe I was taking a nap when I floating around and maybe I was astral projecting..I never heard sounds or vibrations and stuff though but I don't know what it was. I wish I knew.
Also, my Dad tells me stories of when I was really little like age 5 or 6 I would say things like.. "If you guys didn't have me, someone else would have." or "I have a special reason for being here, something made me." And little "deep thought" comments like that. When I should be playing barbies (which I did) I would often be daydreaming of things like why do I have hands and how was I made and why am I alive, etc.
twisterjester
Jul 4 2008, 12:07 AM
Most of us have moments when something prickles our memory paths, reminding us that, "Oh wow, I just thought of that this morning." It's called deja vu when it's momentary and sends a frisson of electricity along our spines.
But what do you call it when you can foresee more powerfully? When you know something is going to happen and tell someone about it and it happens just a few days later?
That's happened to me, too. I once sat down to write something and my fingers took on a life of their own. I intended to write a snarky bit of fluff, but what I ended up writing was a detailed and dark prediction about someone I didn't know from Adam. (I knew who he was, but didn't know him personally.) It was weird and kind of freaked me out, so I deleted what I wrote and started over again, still intending the smart-alecky moment. Ended up with nothing more than a rewrite of what I hammered out the first time. Third time around I threw my hands up and let it fly as-is, figured there had to be a reason behind it.
Some of what I predicted definitely occurred. The rest - who knows?
Just a few days prior to the big quake in China, I was coming out of my skin with the certainty of a huge quake on the horizon. I knew it, knew it was hovering just ahead, and posted it on my blot. (No links, sorry. My personal blog is for me, not for the world at large.) Missed the mark entirely as to location, I might add. So while the big picture was kicking me in the teeth, the details arrived in a murky jumble.
Just my 2 cents worth and has nothing to do with the topic of (what may be) past lives, so I'll shut up now.
darkbreed
Jul 4 2008, 03:27 AM
LostInThought:
That certainly sounds like astral projection, as you indeed would be able to both fly and be invisible.
Twisterjester:
Well, in some cases they can see you when astral projecting but that is unusual. If it was an astral projection, which seems most probable explanation to all the experiences mentioned here by different people (or very vivid/lucid dreams) it is possible that your friend were also astral projecting at the time, or that you just imagined him being there to comment it.
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It is quite interesting to see that so many people had so similar experiences at the same ages. Personally I do think that the most probable reason is as I mentioned astral projections and/or lucid dreams as it is common for kids and young children to have spontaneous astral projections and vivid dreams at such ages - I remember one of my own first astral experiences I had, which was not a full projection but sleep paralysis along with strange things going on (hallucinations / feeling a presence / weird sounds - actually at the time I thought some aliens were doing something to me because I felt like someone were holding me down in the bed by my neck and I heard a drilling sound behind my head and though they were implanting something into my skull and I could not move or scream or anything, but suddenly I managed to kick my leg into the wall and "snapped out" of it and got up from bed running out of the apartment in fear.) It was as real as anything but later in life I started finding out about astral projection, sleep paralysis etc, and started to explore and practice it myself and then figured out that this experience had only been a sleep paralysis and my own fear manifested itself into those very vivid hallucinations - I used to read a lot about UFOs and aliens and watch tv-shows about it etc at the time.
Astral projections and sleep paralysis can also explain a huge amount of "alien abductions" I've come to understand, as the alien abduction experiences are so often basically just how a sleep paralysis and/or astral projection experience can be (unable to move, can't scream, feeling presence, sensing beings and maybe even seeing them - which can be either imagination or real astral entities - , floating up from the bed, and so on).
Also, I never heard about anyone saying they saw a flying kid, and if these experiences were actually real physical experiences at least someone somewhere would see some of those flying kids now and then but they don't. That doesn't mean that ALL of these experiences are astral projections or dreams though, I can't rule out the possibility of a few cases being real but I have not seen any evidence to support such a thing though.
Both astral projections and lucid dreams are extremely vivid and real which explains why people remember it as being a real experience - when you astral project and fly around it feels as real as if you'd be in your physical body and flying around, same goes for lucid dreams.
-EA
twisterjester
Jul 4 2008, 03:57 AM
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)

LostInThought:
.....Also, I never heard about anyone saying they saw a flying kid, and if these experiences were actually real physical experiences at least someone somewhere would see some of those flying kids now and then but they don't. That doesn't mean that ALL of these experiences are astral projections or dreams though, I can't rule out the possibility of a few cases being real but I have not seen any evidence to support such a thing though.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I most assuredly didn't advertise this to the world at large and wouldn't if I ever accomplished it again. Human culture can be brutal to anyone seen as "special," and I can do without a repeat of my experiences along that vein. I developed a pretty heavy-duty shell over time. I am willing to post online what I'd never say or do in "real life." Here I have the luxury of anonymity.
Being online means more skepticism, naturally. I embrace differing opinions because they force me to be honest - with myself and eveyone else. I still haven't dealt with as much skepticism as I have people who think I have answers and therefore cling to me.
That can be scary. I
don't have all the answers. I don't even have all the
questions!Just because the world doesn't herald the existence of flying kids doesn't mean it doesn't happen. And for the record, I don't think of this as flying, at least not in my experience. I don't recall ever being more than a few inches off the ground - at most, a foot or so. On the off chance that someone glanced out their window, they probably wouldn't have noticed anything unusual, not unless they were looking very closely.
QUOTE (darkbreed @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)

Both astral projections and lucid dreams are extremely vivid and real which explains why people remember it as being a real experience - when you astral project and fly around it feels as real as if you'd be in your physical body and flying around, same goes for lucid dreams.
-EA
Very possible. I am not aware of episodes of astral projections in my life, though I've obviously undergone lucid dreams now and then. If I achieved (for lack of a better word) astral projection as a child I might very well not have recognized it for what it was. And God only knew how badly I wanted to escape. I'm certainly willing to consider the possibility.
Nessieman23
Jul 4 2008, 06:50 AM
Interesting. I find this really weird, because no matter how many times I try to do it, I end up falling flat on my face. I can maybe stay up for a second (but thats most likely me jumping subconciously). I believe you completely, because theres no proof it DIDNT happen, right?
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twisterjester
Jul 4 2008, 07:38 AM
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Interesting. I find this really weird, because no matter how many times I try to do it, I end up falling flat on my face. I can maybe stay up for a second (but thats most likely me jumping subconciously). I believe you completely, because theres no proof it DIDNT happen, right?
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I can't do it now - at least, I don't think I can, which is tantamount to the same thing. Then again... it's been a long time since I tried.
Nessieman23
Jul 4 2008, 08:07 AM
Well, I say you try it again.
LostInThought
Jul 4 2008, 01:42 PM
I have been trying astral projection because not only do I want to just experience it, but I also want to see if it feels anything like what happened to me when I was floating around as a kid. Part of me thinks I did it again when I was around 9 because I have a memory of floating out of my house but this memory is not as strong as the one when I was 6..that one was so strong it almost seems like it was my physical self doing it at the time but I know it wasn't. Problem is, I seem to lose focus easy when I try to AP.
twisterjester
Jul 4 2008, 09:34 PM
QUOTE (LostInThought @ Jul 4 2008, 06:42 AM)

...Problem is, I seem to lose focus easy when I try to AP.
That's a byproduct of society's insistence we all "multi-task," all the time. It fragments (and occasionally fractures) our ability to truly focus on something valuable.
There are times we need to divide our attention several ways. The healthier way is to balance those times of divided thoughts with times of single-minded focus - preferably focus inward.
twisterjester
Jul 4 2008, 09:36 PM
QUOTE (SpaceCadet @ May 17 2008, 05:50 PM)

After watching Bulletproof Monk when I was like 10, I used to be able to run and jump up and run through the air as if the air had lots of stepping stones, if this makes sense.
Of course I was merely jumping far and running etc.
But it felt soooo real, and I believed I was actually doing it successfully, however now, I don't know, I guess it was my imagination.
Seems stupid to only 'guess' it was my imagination, but thats life!
Interesting take on it. I never felt like I was walking on anything, nothing like that. I'm enjoying the different views, and the fact that this subject is common to so many folks
twisterjester
Jul 4 2008, 09:38 PM
Sorry it took me so long to reply. That excerpt describes precisely what I experienced/felt at the time. I knew I'd read information along those lines, just couldn't find the specific references again. Thanks
darkbreed
Jul 4 2008, 11:27 PM
LostInThought: Regarding astral projection, perhaps you'll find something useful in my thread about that over at
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=118375 called "Increase your astral abilities".
I'm about to add some new info there soon but I will have to edit it a bit as it is originally a series of replies to questions someone sent me privately but I feel it might be useful information for others as well.
Best of luck!
-EA
Baal
Jul 7 2008, 12:40 AM
Oh come on. I've had multiple multiple things that I thought happened that never really happened.
Memory distorts everything. Shapes, Colors, People, Events, everything.
The reason an adult mind can't do it is because they think for more clear than a 8-10 year old kid.
someoldguy
Jul 7 2008, 11:44 AM
QUOTE
I was probably 8 or 9 years old when this happened but I recall it clearly: I could walk for a fair distance without ever touching the ground. This isn't a joke and yes, I know that by all laws of physics (not to mention gravity,) it should be impossible. It nonetheless happened. Not only did I walk above the ground, but a friend of mine expressed bafflement at the time, asking how I accomplished it.
The principle was that with each step, I took the next step just before my foot hit the ground, and raising that foot before it struck, etc. - and thus moved several yards without ever touching the earth. As an adult, logic dictates that it can't be done and therefore I can no longer do anything of the sort. Even with adult logic firmly in place, though, I am sure of what occurred back in my youth.
Other people have related similar memories? Anyone else recall comparable unique abilities, either as a child or an adult?
It's odd you brought this up.
I've had dreams where I could do this, but there was a natural, physical explanation for it. (In my dream, anyway.) Also it was a bit tricky to do and wasn't always reliable.
People in my dream would look at me with amazement, but I would tell them that it's nothing really.
If I recall correctly, it had something to do with creating the proper airflow using your feet so that you could walk and/or float on the compressed air underneath you. This didn't require a lot of effort on my part but it was very tricky to do correctly. There were times when the effect would wear off and I'd wind up back on my feet, but I'd often be able to start it up again.
Anyway, I just thought I'd contribute that.
twisterjester
Jul 8 2008, 01:20 AM
QUOTE (someoldguy @ Jul 7 2008, 04:44 AM)

It's odd you brought this up.
I've had dreams where I could do this, but there was a natural, physical explanation for it. (In my dream, anyway.) Also it was a bit tricky to do and wasn't always reliable.
People in my dream would look at me with amazement, but I would tell them that it's nothing really.
If I recall correctly, it had something to do with creating the proper airflow using your feet so that you could walk and/or float on the compressed air underneath you. This didn't require a lot of effort on my part but it was very tricky to do correctly. There were times when the effect would wear off and I'd wind up back on my feet, but I'd often be able to start it up again.
Anyway, I just thought I'd contribute that.
Probably same principle. I didn't think of it in terms of airflow, but I suspect everyone experiences the same thing in different ways. It's not too surprising to me that so many people have undergone similar experiences/memories/dreams or whatever actually occurred.
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