Pluto-x
May 12 2008, 01:45 AM
This was a photo we took at Sach's Bridge in Gettysburg, PA...

We determined we see a man with a ghost dog?
Rochiz87
May 12 2008, 01:48 AM
Creepy, I live two hours from there...
But it actually looks like more of a horse than a dog? Being the site of the Civil War, I would suspect that it would be a fallen horse or something...but this is a good find! Thanks for sharing, Pluto-X!
Pluto-x
May 12 2008, 01:57 AM
It looks more like a German Sheppard to us? I am sure they used dogs in the civil war? Probably for tracking purposes?
But we're assuming this ghost is even from the war? Could just be a lonely man with his dog or animal strolling across the bridge? There were over 52,000 deaths / casualties in Gettysburg. This spirit could of been anyone of those 52,000... LOL
Rochiz87
May 12 2008, 02:01 AM
Good point.
In fact, most of the haunted ghost tours there have nothing to do with the soldiers killed in the war.
Haha, and now that you mention it, I see a German Shepherd...
Moonie2012
May 12 2008, 02:04 AM
Anybody want to outline what they see? All I see is random mist.
I do see a cross-shaped thing on the left near the bottom - but it could be bird poop on the wood.
SS79
May 12 2008, 02:09 AM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 12 2008, 03:04 AM)

Anybody want to outline what they see? All I see is random mist.
Same here . I dont see the dog nor the man .
I tend to think if soemthing needs pointing out its probably not there . Pluo may i suggest next time you dont say what you see and then see if what others see matches up with your initial ideas . if it does and many people see the same thing without prompting then you could be onto something .
JustNormal
May 12 2008, 02:14 AM
I enhanced it, but I dont know how to circle it. It looks like a dog and a man, plus there is something on the far left, I have yet to figure out..JN
Pluto-x
May 12 2008, 02:16 AM
I just thought the silhouette was a bit obvious in this one?
JustNormal
May 12 2008, 02:17 AM
QUOTE (Rochiz87 @ May 12 2008, 03:01 AM)

Good point.
In fact, most of the haunted ghost tours there have nothing to do with the soldiers killed in the war.
Haha, and now that you mention it, I see a German Shepherd...

LOL Looks like a Husky to me..
Aanica
May 12 2008, 03:54 AM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ May 11 2008, 07:45 PM)

This was a photo we took at Sach's Bridge in Gettysburg, PA...

We determined we see a man with a ghost dog?
It looks like a man for sure but the thing behind him I cant tell almost like a cart..
JustNormal
May 12 2008, 03:09 PM
QUOTE (Aanica @ May 12 2008, 03:54 AM)

It looks like a man for sure but the thing behind him I cant tell almost like a cart..
Its a pretty interesting photo..JN
Pluto-x
May 12 2008, 03:54 PM
Its one of our best photos IMHO...
We don't get mists often. Only twice... once on video, and here in this photo.
JustNormal
May 12 2008, 03:58 PM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ May 12 2008, 03:54 PM)

Its one of our best photos IMHO...
We don't get mists often. Only twice... once on video, and here in this photo.
Ectoplasm can be caught on film, and I for one enjoy photos containing it, however sometimes what one sees, another doesnt. Its all in the eye of the beholder..IMO...JN
ennui
May 12 2008, 10:59 PM
Looks like a Longhaired Pointer to me. Some of my family raised them as bird dogs. Longish hair, darker head sometimes and spotted.

You caught a great ghost pic, btw.
married_chick26
May 13 2008, 12:11 AM
awesome picture. I spotted the man and dog right away. The man is wearing a hat. You can see the brim of it around his head. Could be a battle helmet of that time. He looks to be sitting and he has his arm around the dog.
Ennui, it does kind of look like that breed of dog except I see this dog's ears are perked up, not lying flat like your pic. Thats just what I see, doesn't mean its right Great find!
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 12:31 AM
Ok, seriously - what are you people seeing here? I don't see anything that looks like a dog OR a man, let alone a specific breed of dog.
I really doubt anybody would be saying they saw this stuff if the OP didn't say it first and put the idea out there.
JustNormal
May 13 2008, 12:37 AM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 13 2008, 01:31 AM)

Ok, seriously - what are you people seeing here? I don't see anything that looks like a dog OR a man, let alone a specific breed of dog.
I really doubt anybody would be saying they saw this stuff if the OP didn't say it first and put the idea out there.
Im sorry, you are wrong. This is a classic photo of ectoplasm and its easy to see the dog and man. Not everyone sees the exact same thing, but I for one saw the images immediately. JN
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 12:41 AM
QUOTE (JustNormal @ May 12 2008, 07:37 PM)

Im sorry, you are wrong. This is a classic photo of ectoplasm and its easy to see the dog and man. Not everyone sees the exact same thing, but I for one saw the images immediately. JN
I'm sorry, you are suggestible. It doesn't take some magic voodoo to see things in pictures like this - I've seen things in pictures before that people have pointed out - this, I see nothing.
I still assert that if it wasn't suggested, you could have seen something different. The OP ruined the interpretation by suggestion.
You can't say I'm wrong, because it happened to you subconsciously whether you like it or not.
JustNormal
May 13 2008, 12:43 AM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 13 2008, 12:41 AM)

I'm sorry, you are suggestible. It doesn't take some magic voodoo to see things in pictures like this - I've seen things in pictures before.
I still assert that if it wasn't suggested, you could have seen something different. The OP ruined the interpretation by suggestion.
You can't say I'm wrong, because it happened to you subconsciously whether you like it or not.
That is your opinion and I have mine..JN
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 12:44 AM
Can anybody outline this supposed man and dog?
Pluto-x
May 13 2008, 12:45 AM
I should have known better as an investigator to have announced what my team has already classified it as. I will try to improve on staying away from "Power of Suggestion". But don't get on JN's case for it. It was my mistake. Honest error. I was excited to share the photo.
SS79
May 13 2008, 12:54 AM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 13 2008, 12:44 AM)

Can anybody outline this supposed man and dog?
I cant see the dog . I do however see many faces which leads me too believe it is matrixing. These are all the faces i see circled ( i can see more if i look hard enough ) . maybe i got the man everyones talking about . who knows .
I would like if someone could point out the dog too . I showed this too a few people in my home without saying anything about the man and dog . one saw a man with a pram or cradle . another saw lots of faces . another claimed to see trees and a bird . each answer was different . so i would have to agree that the power of suggestion played a part here .
Edit whoops forgot the pic LOL
CrazyDaisy
May 13 2008, 12:58 AM
Pluto-X, I just had my 15 year old son look at the picture ONLY .........he said and I quote "I see a dog or wolf and then pointed out the head, ears, muzzle, back, legs and tail. Then he said "Oh and a man ahead of him".
Hope that helps with the power of suggestion idea. Not to say it does not happen, but not in this photo...JMO.
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 01:00 AM
QUOTE (CrazyDaisy @ May 12 2008, 07:58 PM)

Pluto-X, I just had my 15 year old son look at the picture ONLY .........he said and I quote "I see a dog or wolf and then pointed out the head, ears, muzzle, back, legs and tail. Then he said "Oh and a man ahead of him".
Hope that helps with the power of suggestion idea. Not to say it does not happen, but not in this photo...JMO.

Did the same thing with my wife - she saw nothing. After I said man and dog, she STILL saw nothing. Since you can see them, care to point them out?
I will say I see the face in the center now that it's circled - is that the guy?
JustNormal
May 13 2008, 01:07 AM
QUOTE (SS79 @ May 13 2008, 12:54 AM)

I cant see the dog . I do however see many faces which leads me too believe it is matrixing. These are all the faces i see circled ( i can see more if i look hard enough ) . maybe i got the man everyones talking about . who knows .
I would like if someone could point out the dog too . I showed this too a few people in my home without saying anything about the man and dog . one saw a man with a pram or cradle . another saw lots of faces . another claimed to see trees and a bird . each answer was different . so i would have to agree that the power of suggestion played a part here .
Edit whoops forgot the pic LOL
LOL Here ya go SS..
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 01:09 AM
QUOTE (JustNormal @ May 12 2008, 08:07 PM)

LOL Here ya go SS..
You...brightened it again. Did I miss something this time around?
Wallydraigle
May 13 2008, 02:26 AM
I can almost see it. Too bad your breath got in the way.
Pluto-x
May 13 2008, 02:32 AM
Remarks are not called for... if you are gonna make a remark, please post a positive one.
Regency
May 13 2008, 07:47 AM
I don't see a dog or a man. Whether it's ectoplasm or not is another question, couldn't it be breath? If it is ectoplasm, wouldn't it materialise before you? or is ectoplasm a substance that just shows up on photos and not the naked eye?
Could you tell us why you were taking pictures on the bridge Pluto? does it have a haunted history?
kiddglock
May 13 2008, 07:50 AM
It's definitely there...At first I thought it was the Great Pumpkin. But then I realized it was just a durned Beagle.
Pluto-x
May 13 2008, 10:04 AM
It is not breathe! You are pulling for skepticism here? Nothing wrong with being real & objective, but there is clearly an image of a mist. Most people are seeing a man and his dog.
Here is some background on Sach's Bridge.
Sach's Bridge: Gettysburg, PAAfter reading this, you'll understand why we visited the bridge.
mnemeion
May 13 2008, 10:10 AM
Didn't see it the first time, but the detailed one outlined it more. An old chap walking his dog. Nice.
Regency
May 13 2008, 10:29 AM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ May 13 2008, 11:04 AM)

It is not breathe! You are pulling for skepticism here? Nothing wrong with being real & objective, but there is clearly an image of a mist. Most people are seeing a man and his dog.
Here is some background on Sach's Bridge.
Sach's Bridge: Gettysburg, PAAfter reading this, you'll understand why we visited the bridge.
Fascinating place. I'm not saying it is breath and I'm not shooting your photo down either, I'm asking how you determine it's ectoplasm, how do you differentiate between the two. If you tell me you saw this ectoplasm/spirit as a physical thing and then took the photo, I'd be well impressed.
Did you see this with the naked eye or did it materialise on the photograph? never having seen ectoplasm in the flesh (has anyone??), is it a physical thing that forms in front of your eyes? I'm really curious about this.
Pluto-x
May 13 2008, 11:52 AM
In most cases, paranormal events do not happen seeing things with the human eye. There are rare cases, "VERY RARE" when someone can claim to see paranormal activity with their own vision. If you are sensitive, most sensitives just sense a change in the atmosphere and when that happens, you know to snap a photo.
My whole team felt a presence on the bridge, and motivated us to conduct an EVP session. While conducting this session, this is in return what we got on photo.
married_chick26
May 13 2008, 01:15 PM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 12 2008, 08:44 PM)

Can anybody outline this supposed man and dog?
I outlined what myself and my husband see in the picture. Others may see something different.
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 01:45 PM
QUOTE (married_chick26 @ May 13 2008, 08:15 AM)

I outlined what myself and my husband see in the picture. Others may see something different.
Ok, I see it now - but I really don't think that's what it is, I think it's just a random shape.
Not that I'm disputing you felt something or that the fog is even supernatural, I just don't think that's what it is. These misty photos always look like all kinds of stuff.
Regency
May 13 2008, 01:48 PM
QUOTE (married_chick26 @ May 13 2008, 02:15 PM)

I outlined what myself and my husband see in the picture. Others may see something different.
That's interesting, I could see the man but thought what people were calling the dog was facing in the other direction - so the picture didn't fit in my mind. Now you show us the dog in the same direction as the man it makes more sense.
... assuming it's not breath that is (sorry Pluto, just pulling your leg

)
ennui
May 13 2008, 02:03 PM
QUOTE (married_chick26 @ May 12 2008, 11:11 PM)

awesome picture. I spotted the man and dog right away. The man is wearing a hat. You can see the brim of it around his head. Could be a battle helmet of that time. He looks to be sitting and he has his arm around the dog.
Ennui, it does kind of look like that breed of dog except I see this dog's ears are perked up, not lying flat like your pic. Thats just what I see, doesn't mean its right Great find!
Now that I put on my super strong 'cheaters', I do see the dog's face looking at me and the ears are perked up, like a shepherd or collie. The body seemed to be a long haired pointer. Considering the time, it was probably a mutt consisting of many breeds.
I really like this picture.
Pluto-x
May 13 2008, 02:16 PM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 13 2008, 09:45 AM)

Ok, I see it now - but I really don't think that's what it is, I think it's just a random shape.
Not that I'm disputing you felt something or that the fog is even supernatural, I just don't think that's what it is. These misty photos always look like all kinds of stuff.
Moonie; If this was fog, everyone would of seen fog with our own eyes. Our team during investigations is in an excellent habit of debunking and tagging any kind of human interference ( whether its breathe or a patch of fog. ) Breathe would not create this amount of a mist like appearance. This mist is large regarding size. With it being large, I think it would of been obvious to us if it was fog?
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 02:45 PM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ May 13 2008, 09:16 AM)

Moonie; If this was fog, everyone would of seen fog with our own eyes. Our team during investigations is in an excellent habit of debunking and tagging any kind of human interference ( whether its breathe or a patch of fog. ) Breathe would not create this amount of a mist like appearance. This mist is large regarding size. With it being large, I think it would of been obvious to us if it was fog?
Read what I said - I'm not disputing it was supernatural, call it fog, mist, ectoplasm, whatever - I just don't think it's a perfect picture of a man, dog, or anything. Paranormal? Sure. Portrait of a man and dog? Nah. People aren't even seeing the same thing, and the ones that are are seeing it in different orientations.
You say it's a "large" mist, but there's no way to tell how big it is. It could be a tiny cloud right in front of the lens, it could be huge cloud all over the bridge. It's simply impossible to tell how "big" it is in two dimensions, and you didn't see it with the naked eye to corroborate.
Pluto-x
May 13 2008, 02:54 PM
Well I am curious, how did you determine it was "Not" paranormal?
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 02:54 PM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ May 13 2008, 09:54 AM)

Well I am curious, how did you determine it was "Not" paranormal?
I'M NOT! That's what "I'm not disputing it's supernatural" means!
Anyway, this is what I see - a fox head. Is this the dog people are seeing?
Pluto-x
May 13 2008, 02:58 PM
The majority of the people replying what they see... see a dog & man.
Granted I should of known better to avoid "Power of Suggestion" by not saying what was seen by our team here.
But also, the very few who do not see anything appear to be skeptics?
Pluto-x
May 13 2008, 03:00 PM

This is what people are seeing Moonie, notice the outlines.
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 03:01 PM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ May 13 2008, 09:58 AM)

The majority of the people replying what they see... see a dog & man.
Is the outlined picture exactly how everyone sees it? Nobody has said (except one who said the dog is facing the other way).
Regardless, it's impossible to say exactly what it is either way. You see a dog, fine. I see a fox, fine. Somebody else sees faces, fine. Others see the dog facing the other direction, fine.
You claim everyone sees the same thing, yet not everyone is - and the ones that do see what you see have not shown exactly what they see (except for one). Of course, now that's ruined to suggestion too, as anybody who does an outline from here on out will likely copy the already outlined pic.
Pluto-x
May 13 2008, 03:12 PM
I didn't say exactly the same thing, just that they are seeing a dog and man.
ennui
May 13 2008, 03:29 PM
Moonie, where you have illustrated the inside of your fox's left ear (bottom left), that is the dog's left eye (to me - looking head on at the picture). His right eye is just to the right (lol) and his black nose/muzzle is a bit lower, between the eyes. His ears are on either side of your fox's left ear.
Below your fox's left ear, there is a black shadow which I see as the dog's forearm which is almost perpendicular to the ground. Your fox's right ear, is my dog's tail. Below your fox's right eye is my dog's haunch and leg.
I don't know if that is how others view the dog but it's my interpretation.
JustNormal
May 13 2008, 03:43 PM
QUOTE (ennui @ May 13 2008, 03:29 PM)

Moonie, where you have illustrated the inside of your fox's left ear (bottom left), that is the dog's left eye (to me - looking head on at the picture). His right eye is just to the right (lol) and his black nose/muzzle is a bit lower, between the eyes. His ears are on either side of your fox's left ear.
Below your fox's left ear, there is a black shadow which I see as the dog's forearm which is almost perpendicular to the ground. Your fox's right ear, is my dog's tail. Below your fox's right eye is my dog's haunch and leg.
I don't know if that is how others view the dog but it's my interpretation.
I see it the same exact way Pluto displayed it..JN
ennui
May 13 2008, 04:09 PM
QUOTE (JustNormal @ May 13 2008, 02:43 PM)

I see it the same exact way Pluto displayed it..JN
That's the way I saw it yesterday, but today I see it looking into the camera. Like I said before, I put on different glasses this morning and don't know if that's what changed it to my eyes.
Pluto-x
May 13 2008, 04:16 PM
With an image like this, I am not disputing everyone will see something different. I honestly thought the man and dog were clear as day? I was quite surprised the few people who didn't see it?
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