Aanica
May 12 2008, 05:47 AM
I have been trying to find related info on any creatures like this .The description says this thing touched the man and left a triangle pattern on his knee, it was orginal to Coast to Coast item # 48
If you look real close it seems to have horns like a ram the description of its height is very small. could it be a troll? What do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FujBvzILSQ
Moonie2012
May 12 2008, 03:03 PM
That video is so horrible it could be anything. Looks like a kid about to mess with somebody on a camping trip to me.
EDIT: It's leaves- see explanation below.
Aanica
May 12 2008, 06:05 PM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 12 2008, 10:03 AM)

That video is so horrible it could be anything. Looks like a kid about to mess with somebody on a camping trip to me.
It was taken with a camera phone( not by me ) in Poland I have viewed it on a 20in LCD and the dimentions cannot be a child
salvationisnowhere
May 12 2008, 10:22 PM
I was watching a programme the other day about primordial dwarfism. Basically its a type of dwarfism that occurs in which the body is exactly that of a fully developed adult, but scaled down. i.e. the limbs and the head are perfectly in scale with each other, except much much smaller. So it could be one such individual in this video. Having said that there are only around 200 people in the whole world like that they believe, so its pretty unlikely.
Theres an article on it here if anyones interested;
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2773426&page=1
Aanica
May 12 2008, 10:31 PM
QUOTE (salvationisnowhere @ May 12 2008, 05:22 PM)

I was watching a programme the other day about primordial dwarfism. Basically its a type of dwarfism that occurs in which the body is exactly that of a fully developed adult, but scaled down. i.e. the limbs and the head are perfectly in scale with each other, except much much smaller. So it could be one such individual in this video. Having said that there are only around 200 people in the whole world like that they believe, so its pretty unlikely.
Theres an article on it here if anyones interested;
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2773426&page=1 I know what pimordial dwarfs are unless they have grown horns this is not one of them..
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 12:50 AM
QUOTE (Aanica @ May 12 2008, 01:05 PM)

It was taken with a camera phone( not by me ) in Poland I have viewed it on a 20in LCD and the dimentions cannot be a child
Like I said, it could be ANYTHING. The quality and matrixing are so bad it's impossible to tell, regardless of screen size. You can't even tell if that's a person lying there - it looks like a rolled up tent to me.
Quill
May 13 2008, 01:09 AM
I was watching the full clip here (#48) and was moving it frame by frame...It's odd, that's all I can say... About horns, however, the quality is too poor too tell for sure.
Aanica
May 13 2008, 01:15 AM
QUOTE (Quill @ May 12 2008, 08:09 PM)

I was watching the full clip here (#48) and was moving it frame by frame...It's odd, that's all I can say... About horns, however, the quality is too poor too tell for sure. Yea it took me a while but they are there, the color of this thing is the distrubing part to me because I have seen other things this color and cant explain them either thanks for looking
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 01:20 AM
QUOTE (Quill @ May 12 2008, 08:09 PM)

I was watching the full clip here (#48) and was moving it frame by frame...It's odd, that's all I can say... About horns, however, the quality is too poor too tell for sure. After watching that, I believe I know exactly what it is.
Near the end of the clip, when the camera pans back to the guy laying down for the second time, you can tell that between the camera and the guy laying down is a tree covered in moss or vines - you can see the growth hanging between the camera and the guy.
When you see the guy laying down the first time and the "thing" appears, the hanging leaves are just above the view of the camera - the "thing" is nothing but some of those leaves. Due to a gentle breeze and/or subtle camera movements, it dips down a bit, and due to the horrid camera resolution and picture distortion, it blends into the background where the guy is and looks like it's right next to him.
It's nothing but part of that mossy tree seen later on in the vid.
Aanica
May 13 2008, 01:22 AM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 12 2008, 08:20 PM)

After watching that, I believe I know exactly what it is.
Near the end of the clip, when the camera pans back to the guy laying down for the second time, you can tell that the camera is situated under a weeping willow type tree - you can see the leaves hanging between the camera and the guy.
When you see the guy laying down the first time and the "thing" appears, the hanging leaves are just above the view of the camera - the "thing" is nothing but some of those leaves. Due to a gentle breeze and/or subtle camera movements, it dips down a bit, and due to the horrid camera resolution, it blends into the background where the guy is.
It's nothing but part of the tree.
Keep telling yourself that...lol
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 01:28 AM
QUOTE (Aanica @ May 12 2008, 08:22 PM)

Keep telling yourself that...lol
Make too much sense for you? Study the ENTIRE clip with an open mind, and you will see what I mean.
It's an illusion, and it makes a lot more sense than a little horned guy running around touching people. Why would a little forest gnome (or whatever) appear in front of a large group of people and a big dog, anyway? The camera and at least one of those people were facing that direction, and nobody noticed a dwarf molesting their friend?
LOL, only on this site is the likely and simplest explanation for a strange situation completely ignored and laughed at in favor of the most outlandish one, nine times out of ten.
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 02:34 AM
Actually, I can prove I'm right using the youtube clip.
At the beginning of the clip, focus on the guy's feet. There's a black spot and a black line on his legs, respectively they are probably the bottom of his shoes and either his pants or socks. Again, crappy video - hard to tell.
Now, watch the video while focusing on his feet. You will notice that as the "thing' appears, the black spots that were already on the guy's feet make what appear to be the thing's leg and arm - half of the "thing" was there the whole time!
All it takes is a stick with some leaves drooping down to make the body and other leg, and voila! Your "monster" - an optical illusion.
I can make some comparison shots if you can't see what I mean.
Aanica
May 13 2008, 03:15 AM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 12 2008, 09:34 PM)

Actually, I can prove I'm right using the youtube clip.
At the beginning of the clip, focus on the guy's feet. There's a black spot and a black line on his legs, respectively they are probably the bottom of his shoes and either his pants or socks. Again, crappy video - hard to tell.
Now, watch the video while focusing on his feet. You will notice that as the "thing' appears, the black spots that were already on the guy's feet make what appear to be the thing's leg and arm - half of the "thing" was there the whole time!
All it takes is a stick with some leaves drooping down to make the body and other leg, and voila! Your "monster" - an optical illusion.
I can make some comparison shots if you can't see what I mean.
You certinly spent alot of time on those willow leaves...
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 03:19 AM
QUOTE (Aanica @ May 12 2008, 10:15 PM)

You certinly spent alot of time on those willow leaves...
Do you see what I mean or not? I think you do and you know I'm right, but you just don't want to admit it.
Aanica
May 13 2008, 03:26 AM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 12 2008, 10:19 PM)

Do you see what I mean or not? I think you do and you know I'm right, but you just don't want to admit it.
No I dont see what you do but thats why we post right? its OK for you to see something different thats what makes America great!
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 03:32 AM
If you want to believe that clip is of a magical little green horned man that is invisible to groups of people and animals looking right at it, who magically appears and touches people for no good reason instead of seeing it for what it really is (tree leaves), that's your choice, I guess.
It's ok to be wrong at first, just don't keep being wrong even though you realize you're wrong just to make a point.
Aanica
May 13 2008, 03:34 AM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 12 2008, 10:32 PM)

If you want to believe that clip is of a magical little green horned man that is invisible to groups of people and animals looking right at it, who magically appears and touches people for no good reason instead of seeing it for what it really is, that's your choice, I guess.
Thanks for the OK...
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 03:40 AM
I'll whip up some pics to prove my point.
EDIT: or not. My idiot paint program locked up as I was saving the layout and I lost it. 20 minutes of work down the toilet.
Oh well, it doesn't matter anyway. I know it's an illusion, and you won't believe me no matter how well I prove it. Why bother trying.
Aanica
May 13 2008, 04:40 AM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 12 2008, 10:40 PM)

I'll whip up some pics to prove my point.
EDIT: or not. My idiot paint program locked up as I was saving the layout and I lost it. 20 minutes of work down the toilet.
Oh well, it doesn't matter anyway. I know it's an illusion, and you won't believe me no matter how well I prove it. Why bother trying.
I would love to see some pics all I did was post this I know what Im looking at I am looking for all opnions even yours, you see I do have a very open mind and a long time doin this type of stuff so if you dont mind do what you can with the video ther is another one on my web site I use professionally feel free to look let me know if I can help in any way
hers the link to my site
http://www.myspace.com/ghostmdthanks for the time you took..Aanica/ghostmd
The Maharaja
May 13 2008, 04:58 AM
Okay i,m normaly a skeptic in these matters but that freaky little dude is kinda creeping me out
and it,s not a tree i can see a head and arms it appears out of nowhere, its probably a C.G.I mock up
At least i hope it is
Aanica
May 13 2008, 05:04 AM
QUOTE (The Maharaja @ May 12 2008, 10:58 PM)

Okay i,m normaly a skeptic in these matters but that freaky little dude is kinda creeping me out
and it,s not a tree i can see a head and arms it appears out of nowhere, its probably a C.G.I mock up
At least i hope it is
You know me to but if its not then I hope I don't run into this thing seems I read a post a while back her ,this girl woke up with what she described as triangle shaped marks and she posted pictures it just sounded so similar I will try to find it be right back to see what you think in the description the man laying down also has a strange triangle shape appear on his knee
Aanica
May 13 2008, 05:06 AM
QUOTE (The Maharaja @ May 12 2008, 10:58 PM)

Okay i,m normaly a skeptic in these matters but that freaky little dude is kinda creeping me out
and it,s not a tree i can see a head and arms it appears out of nowhere, its probably a C.G.I mock up
At least i hope it is
ok here it is its older but I think similar try page 3 or 4 this forum title "hearts on my body"
The Maharaja
May 13 2008, 05:13 AM
I know the girl you mean she,s called Rosetta and she had heart shaped marks appearing all over her she didn,t mention any "little people" though
Just had a thought I think it would be very difficult to imprint a C.G.I mock up onto a mobile,s video, It would possibly need expert equipment
so the question if these things are real is whats their agenda?
Aanica
May 13 2008, 05:25 AM
You know I feel the same a camera phone would be difficult, but I not an expert in camera videos but I have been around some friends that do cg and they are saying if its fake its good ,kind of freeky when those type of people tell you that..
as far as their agenda who knows I have searched for a while now, I am sure if we are here were not the only form of creature to exist on earth I am going to keep looking what is strange is the color I have another video that has a kind of something on it and it has been under the microscope too we all cant figure out the thing but they have the same color, if you got the time click the link to my site and look at the video under the one I posted here dont know what they are but the color is the same...
http://www.myspace.com/ghostmd
The Maharaja
May 13 2008, 05:46 AM
Firstly I love your website i hope mine is half as cool once its up and running,now i think the second video is probably a fake or someone,s kitty needs to use the litter box real bad

( sorry i can,t do serious for to long)
But if their not fakes were left with two possibillities
1/Its a natural creature that has some form of camoflage capability i,e squid,octopi,cameleons ect which would explain the variation in colours
2/Its some form of spirtual lifeform i.e goblin, sprite, or frodo baggins after a rough night
Aanica
May 13 2008, 06:03 AM
QUOTE (The Maharaja @ May 12 2008, 11:46 PM)

Firstly I love your website i hope mine is half as cool once its up and running,now i think the second video is probably a fake or someone,s kitty needs to use the litter box real bad

( sorry i can,t do serious for to long)
But if their not fakes were left with two possibillities
1/Its a natural creature that has some form of camoflage capability i,e squid,octopi,cameleons ect which would explain the variation in colours
2/Its some form of spirtual lifeform i.e goblin, sprite, or frodo baggins after a rough night
Thanks, I enjoy all the people on there they all are cool and we can take each other seriously while were doing research, I like your sense of humor! I am thinking a spritual life form but I still want to know what class, I will let ya know if I find any thing
the thing in the second video if you slow it down frame by frame their are no distingishable features and I have even had it disapear and their is some kind of mass in the kitchen.. if it cant be fun whats the point!
The Maharaja
May 13 2008, 06:07 AM
QUOTE (Aanica @ May 13 2008, 06:03 AM)

Thanks, I enjoy all the people on there they all are cool and we can take each other seriously while were doing research, I like your sense of humor! I am thinking a spritual life form but I still want to know what class, I will let ya know if I find any thing
the thing in the second video if you slow it down frame by frame their are no distingishable features and I have even had it disapear and their is some kind of mass in the kitchen.. if it cant be fun whats the point!
Thanks

as for a spirit classifacation it might be some kind of imp
Aanica
May 13 2008, 06:09 AM
QUOTE (The Maharaja @ May 13 2008, 12:07 AM)

Thanks

as for a spirit classifacation it might be some kind of imp
I am going to try to find out I never thought of an imp, THANKS...
The Maharaja
May 13 2008, 06:21 AM
Im going to use the university library and do some additional research i,ll post back later and iv,e added you to my friends list hope you don,t mind
catch you Later
Aanica
May 13 2008, 06:25 AM
QUOTE (The Maharaja @ May 13 2008, 12:21 AM)

Im going to use the university library and do some additional research i,ll post back later and iv,e added you to my friends list hope you don,t mind
catch you Later
added you to,later
Quill
May 13 2008, 03:08 PM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 12 2008, 08:28 PM)

Make too much sense for you? Study the ENTIRE clip with an open mind, and you will see what I mean.
It's an illusion, and it makes a lot more sense than a little horned guy running around touching people. Why would a little forest gnome (or whatever) appear in front of a large group of people and a big dog, anyway? The camera and at least one of those people were facing that direction, and nobody noticed a dwarf molesting their friend?
LOL, only on this site is the likely and simplest explanation for a strange situation completely ignored and laughed at in favor of the most outlandish one, nine times out of ten.
The thing that puzzles me though is how fast it seems to move, and then stops and stands.
But like I said, the quality is wanting, so it makes it inconclusive.
Like all the other clips...
Moonie2012
May 13 2008, 03:22 PM
QUOTE (Quill @ May 13 2008, 10:08 AM)

The thing that puzzles me though is how fast it seems to move, and then stops and stands.
But like I said, the quality is wanting, so it makes it inconclusive.
Like all the other clips... That's because it's not really moving at all - the branch dips down out of the tree slightly, creating the illusion of something running up to the guy quickly and then just standing there. In reality, it barely moved. It's hard to tell the branch is even there before it dips down, thanks to the resolution and the fact that it isn't in focus. Visually it's hanging right at the line where the ground meets the trees behind the guy. If you watch, you can see indicators of it dipping down and moving near the beginning of the clip before it makes its grand entrance.
Did you see in the youtube clip how what looks like the arm and leg of the thing are always present on the guy? The black lines on the guy matrix with the relatively straight branch and create a figure.
salvationisnowhere
May 13 2008, 03:31 PM
I find it really hard to think that these kind of video's are genuine. The more I watch that clip the less genuine it seems. Theres thousands of them out there on youtube of little strange looking men who are supposedly aliens. Not trying to discount your enthusiasm, but the more you tell yourself it's genuine the less likely you are to be able to see that perhaps its not. I mean the thing about it being tree branches seem far more likely than it being a never before filmed oddity. It also seems strange to me that people were filming some guy just laid down on the floor, unless it was a mock up of an 'alien encounter' of some kind.
Hope you figure it out either way though!
Quill
May 13 2008, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 13 2008, 10:22 AM)

Did you see in the youtube clip how what looks like the arm and leg of the thing are always present on the guy? The black lines on the guy matrix with the relatively straight branch and create a figure.
I did, and I see what you mean.
I wish people could film something "unknown" in higher quality.
Aanica
May 13 2008, 11:41 PM
QUOTE (Aanica @ May 12 2008, 12:47 AM)

I have been trying to find related info on any creatures like this .The description says this thing touched the man and left a triangle pattern on his knee, it was orginal to Coast to Coast item # 48
If you look real close it seems to have horns like a ram the description of its height is very small. could it be a troll? What do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FujBvzILSQThis is the original story and where it can be found I thought a little more info might help...
48.
Location. Near Wloclawek, Poland
Date: May 20 2007
Time: 1700
On this date a group of young people, three men and one woman were grilling near their cottage in a wooded area close to Wloclawek. The cottage is fenced and the fence touched the forest in its northern section. The forest separates the cottage from the Vistula River. The area is surrounded by other cottages and gardens. One of the men was lying on a blanket on the grass at about 5meters from the others, at the same time the young woman was filming the event with the video camera in her mobile phone. In one brief instance the image of her friend lying on the blanket appeared on the video, which lasted about 1.5 sec. Minutes later while reviewing the video something bizarre caught her eye. Next to the body of the man on the blanket something seemed to suddenly materialize, it seemed to be a humanoid figure about 70 to 80cm in height which seemed to bend down and touched the man with a sort of wand or rod. No one knows what happened later since the frame moved towards the right and away from the scene. After a while a dog that had been with them and had acted normally went to the location where the many was lying and acted nervously. It growled in the direction where the strange figure had appeared from. At that moment the others present did not connect the dog’s behavior with the strange figure on the video. The woman filming and the others had not seen anything out of the ordinary. Several days later three red spots appeared on the man’s knee, they were placed in the shape of a triangle. According to the man it seemed to hurt like a snake bite. However he stated that he had not felt anything at the time.
HC addendum
Source: Stanislaw Barski, Poland
Type: E
Translated by Robert K. Lesniakiewicz (CBZA)
Video of event: can be found here:
http://www.ufoinfo.com/humanoid/humanoid2007.shtml
Aanica
May 13 2008, 11:42 PM
QUOTE (Quill @ May 13 2008, 10:57 AM)

I did, and I see what you mean.
I wish people could film something "unknown" in higher quality. 
the original can be found here..
http://www.ufoinfo.com/humanoid/humanoid2007.shtml
Moonie2012
May 14 2008, 12:01 AM
The people think they see something in the film and THEN they say weird things happened that day - if they never saw that illusion, none of that stuff would be odd or memorable, they are just looking for things to blame on it.
The dog sees a squirrel and the guy gets a tiny rash, but it MUST be related that thing in the video!
Aanica
May 14 2008, 12:05 AM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 13 2008, 07:01 PM)

The people think they see something in the film and THEN they say weird things happened that day - if they never saw that illusion, none of that stuff would be odd or memorable, they are just looking for things to blame on it.
The dog sees a squirrel and the guy gets a tiny rash, but it MUST be related that thing in the video!
At least you keep me entertained, lol I always enjoy your responses did you get you edit to work?
Moonie2012
May 14 2008, 12:14 AM
QUOTE (Aanica @ May 13 2008, 07:05 PM)

At least you keep me entertained, lol I always enjoy your responses did you get you edit to work?
Nah. I could, but I realized it would be much better and easier to comprehend if I could label the video itself while it moved - and I don't have that kind of skill.
Aanica
May 14 2008, 12:19 AM
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 13 2008, 07:14 PM)

Nah. I could, but I realized it would be much better and easier to comprehend if I could label the video itself while it moved - and I don't have that kind of skill.
no biggie just courious dont you love this forum!! I have had more fun in these two days even though I havent found the answers to my orginal questin , but that comes with time i have found have a good one!
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