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Pluto-x
What do you think it would take to get the Paranormal to become more of an official standard?

If they could, would that mean they would change the terminology Paranormal?

Bella-Angelique
Since almost all religions are part of the paranormal, more or less it is already mainstream.
Pluto-x
I'm going somewhere with this! My light bulb is getting hot, LOL...

I just want to get some more thoughts before I put why I asked. grin2.gif

Nile_Shaman
By definition, "paranormal" refers to that which cannot be explained by scientific means and is outside of "normal" experience.

Paranormal aspects of religions may be unexplainable by science, but are within a larger proportion of "normal" experience and so do not get labeled as "paranormal". So it would have to fit both to be deemed as such. Remove one or the other half of the definition and I guess you need to find something else to be a PI original.gif.

Explain it with science or else mainstream it.

NS
Guardian Angel of Fire
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par·a·nor·mal
–adjective of or pertaining to the claimed occurrence of an event or perception without scientific explanation, as psychokinesis, extrasensory perception, or other purportedly supernatural phenomena.


I went to dictionary.com and looked up that deffinition. Personally my thought of Paranormal means "Unknown" or "Unrealistic". It's pretty mainstream i agree, it's been around for a long time, especially back to the Roman Catholisim period in time which is one of the beginnings of Catholisim and Christianity and many other religions now adays that exists. It's something that we cannot explain through logical terms and seems unreal to the perception that one would try to say is something real. AKA Possession we dont even know if thats possibly real or not, because they try to claim it as different types of mental diseases/disorders that occur causing people to not act what we think is normal. In religious views, things that are unholy are considered to be paranormal but then that leaves a question, what does Holy classify as then? something different than Paranormal or the same type of category, i think as Holy and Unholy to be all paranormal, because we think these things exists but we cannot use scientific explanation to try to prove that they do or dont exists.
I think it's already pretty normal and becomming more accepting in society now adays than it used to be. Mideval ages when witch craft was seen the opposite side of the church, but came the witch hunts which changed that around trying to tear appart the "paranormal" or "dark arts".
I think paranormal as something that is out of the explainable that we cannot explain in scientific and logial terms, today i believe it's becomming more accepted and slowly we'll one day find a way to "Prove" that such entities exists.

sorry if i dont make much sense on this, kinda sneaking typing things in class and trying to not let the teacher catch me even though i'm done with all the projects.
Lord Storm
Well the world is a sphere (close).....that used to be a paranormal idea. Eventualy everyone saw the truth and now it is normal to think the earth is round. There are things out there still that are not the percieved norm.....just matter of time and discovery.
LIGhostChick
I honestly dont know what it's going to take for the paranormal to become an "official standard" because everyone all over the world have different beliefs. Alot of people dont believe in ghost or the after life due to their religion or personal opinion. I dont think it's ever going to happen... or atleast not in our lifetime.
Pluto-x
Here's the thing... I actually have a catchy idea. I'm in the process of forming a huge organization that ties paranormal groups across Long Island, NY, NYC, Upstate NY, and across the East Coast.

What if, and a BIG IF that if we proved the existence of the after-life. Nobody could debunk it or doubt it. Say its enough to even whoa the Church or Government? Hypothetically speaking, and theoretically speaking of course. I'm not saying this would be in our life time as we have much to learn and discover. But let's say we could prove it? Why not form some kind of branch that connected the Church & the Government and the Paranormal to make it an official standard? Like a board of trustees that would have all representatives from all sides. Then you could form special schools or have universities jump on the band wagon and offer to teach about the Paranormal. The only catch would be, they'd probably over see it and regulate the field with more pro's and con's. But if we could connect both sides of the world we may have something here?

Kind of like give the Paranormal Field its own "Government"?

The possibilities would be endless? We'd get the chance to get certified, gain better credentials, and so forth. I think our field would be taken more seriously?

I'm not saying it would have to be ran like our own government because its not perfect and the system needs improving. But some form of government that could be presented from all sides?

Might be an outlandish idea, but man kind has stumbled onto some of the most amazing discoveries with the start of those crazy ideas?
Guardian Angel of Fire
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ May 12 2008, 03:48 PM) *
Here's the thing... I actually have a catchy idea. I'm in the process of forming a huge organization that ties paranormal groups across Long Island, NY, NYC, Upstate NY, and across the East Coast.

What if, and a BIG IF that if we proved the existence of the after-life. Nobody could debunk it or doubt it. Say its enough to even whoa the Church or Government? Hypothetically speaking, and theoretically speaking of course. I'm not saying this would be in our life time as we have much to learn and discover. But let's say we could prove it? Why not form some kind of branch that connected the Church & the Government and the Paranormal to make it an official standard? Like a board of trustees that would have all representatives from all sides. Then you could form special schools or have universities jump on the band wagon and offer to teach about the Paranormal. The only catch would be, they'd probably over see it and regulate the field with more pro's and con's. But if we could connect both sides of the world we may have something here?

Kind of like give the Paranormal Field its own "Government"?

The possibilities would be endless? We'd get the chance to get certified, gain better credentials, and so forth. I think our field would be taken more seriously?

I'm not saying it would have to be ran like our own government because its not perfect and the system needs improving. But some form of government that could be presented from all sides?

Might be an outlandish idea, but man kind has stumbled onto some of the most amazing discoveries with the start of those crazy ideas?


actually thats a good theory and good idea, really i would have never thought about that, i'm in the Midwest region so i could help out here among the field if it ever possibly went though. That is quiet a good idea, but it's hard to unite the Church and Government on this because of the Seperation of Church and State we have now adays.
and you know what their actually is unversities and colleges that do teach the field of Paranormal and that stuff, but their are so few of them around that you'd have to move to the college you wanted to attend for it.
Aanica
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ May 12 2008, 09:49 AM) *
What do you think it would take to get the Paranormal to become more of an official standard?

If they could, would that mean they would change the terminology Paranormal?
The media not playing it as something weirdos and mentaly unstable believe in...
ennui
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Kind of like give the Paranormal Field its own "Government"?


Please please ... no more government. We have enough already. rolleyes.gif
Guardian Angel of Fire
QUOTE (ennui @ May 12 2008, 04:54 PM) *
Please please ... no more government. We have enough already. rolleyes.gif


there's pleanty of corruption in government >.<, well thats what i think, i'm indepenedent.
ennui
QUOTE (Guardian Angel of Fire @ May 12 2008, 08:06 PM) *
there's pleanty of corruption in government >.<, well thats what i think, i'm indepenedent.



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Pluto-x
I'm not saying to have our current government run it! silly! I'm saying to create something to how a government is run so the Paranormal could become more of a standard and be taken seriously.

Syntax
I do understand where you are going with this....taking the concept of something 'above' normal (see paratrooper, parachute, parapsychology) and placing it in the same context of those things that can be explained scientifically.

I have always thought the same thing...if these aspects of the paranormal exist, then surely they are just as much part of the normal universe as Gravity or Electro-Magnetism.

however, I don't see the benefit of this organisation.

If the paranormal is to be evaluated the same way as terrestrial forces, then surely it is the scientific community that should have the say in how it should be researched. Too much division exists between paranormal researchers and theorists...we see it all the time on these boards....demon topics are normally pretty nasty.

When it comes to the standardization of 'the afterlife' or all things paranormal, I want Steven Hawking at the helm, not Uri Geller. Therefore a 'government' already exists to handle these issues.

They are called scientists.

Just remember, a scientist is not out to disprove the existence of god, they are impartial to belief and let the evidence decide.
Guardian Angel of Fire
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ May 12 2008, 05:33 PM) *
I'm not saying to have our current government run it! silly! I'm saying to create something to how a government is run so the Paranormal could become more of a standard and be taken seriously.

so your thinking more like some sort of giant Group nation wide? theres a word for that i'm trying to think of...
Guardian Angel of Fire
QUOTE (Syntax @ May 12 2008, 05:58 PM) *
I do understand where you are going with this....taking the concept of something 'above' normal (see paratrooper, parachute, parapsychology) and placing it in the same context of those things that can be explained scientifically.

I have always thought the same thing...if these aspects of the paranormal exist, then surely they are just as much part of the normal universe as Gravity or Electro-Magnetism.

however, I don't see the benefit of this organisation.

If the paranormal is to be evaluated the same way as terrestrial forces, then surely it is the scientific community that should have the say in how it should be researched. Too much division exists between paranormal researchers and theorists...we see it all the time on these boards....demon topics are normally pretty nasty.

When it comes to the standardization of 'the afterlife' or all things paranormal, I want Steven Hawking at the helm, not Uri Geller. Therefore a 'government' already exists to handle these issues.

They are called scientists.

Just remember, a scientist is not out to disprove the existence of god, they are impartial to belief and let the evidence decide.


yes but without the Theorists their arnt any scientists out there to research it, theorists are often the scientists with theories who set to try to prove or disprove theories.
Syntax
QUOTE (Guardian Angel of Fire @ May 13 2008, 11:45 AM) *
yes but without the Theorists their arnt any scientists out there to research it, theorists are often the scientists with theories who set to try to prove or disprove theories.


I think you are mislead by the notion of a scientist...

a scientist is not just a person wearing a white lab coat watching a bunsen burner bubble away several beakers. Don't let cartoons fool you.

Was Einstein a theorist, a scientist, or both?

Both.

The scientific community are the ones doing the research...

otherwise a 'theory' is simply a bunch of un-supported ramblings.
Guardian Angel of Fire
QUOTE (Syntax @ May 12 2008, 08:51 PM) *
I think you are mislead by the notion of a scientist...

a scientist is not just a person wearing a white lab coat watching a bunsen burner bubble away several beakers. Don't let cartoons fool you.

Was Einstein a theorist, a scientist, or both?

Both.

The scientific community are the ones doing the research...

otherwise a 'theory' is simply a bunch of un-supported ramblings.


did i say anythign bout scientists in white lab coats? no , i stated that Scientists are often Theorists who come up with theories and try to prove their theory to others, or the opposite who try to counter the theories with other things. Such as Issac Newton.
Syntax
QUOTE (Guardian Angel of Fire @ May 13 2008, 12:17 PM) *
did i say anythign bout scientists in white lab coats? no , i stated that Scientists are often Theorists who come up with theories and try to prove their theory to others, or the opposite who try to counter the theories with other things. Such as Issac Newton.


I understand.

I just don't know why that is in opposition to what I said originally. It doesn't explain why the existing scientific community can not spearhead the standardization of the paranormal, instead of a new government-esque group.
Guardian Angel of Fire
QUOTE (Syntax @ May 12 2008, 09:24 PM) *
I understand.

I just don't know why that is in opposition to what I said originally. It doesn't explain why the existing scientific community can not spearhead the standardization of the paranormal, instead of a new government-esque group.


i dont know sometimes i often type things out before thinking it through, i was kinda in hurry to get going earlier, had to let my sis on so i rushed my posting. *shrugs*
Ghost Ship
I believe that this is already taking place. What was once considered bizzare and unusual becomes normal after it becomes common place.

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