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Razer
What are some of your favorite ancient mysteries? One of my favorites is Tiwanaku by lake Titicaca. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiwanaku

How about you?
RedBear
My favorite mystery is the disappearance of the villageers on Roanoke Island. Actually any sudden disappearance of civilizations enthralls me.
Brahmana
Good question. For me, hands down, it would be the mystery of Atlantis. Did it exist? I'm also interested in Biblical mysteries too, like Noah's flood for instance. Did that happen? And is there something on Mount Ararat? The Exodus. I wish we could find some historical evidence to prove it happened. The search for the Ark Of the Covenant. I'm always interested in seeing things that validate the truth of the Bible; not all of it is pure allegory in my opinion. And after having the priviledge to go to Chichen Itza a couple months ago, I have become absolutely fasicnated with the Mayans. I'm reading anything about them I can get my hands on.

Since I'm a Cayce fan, the Hall of Records too, as I have in another post. Not sure if they exist, but it's damned interesting either way.
1.618
What happened to the ark of the covenant.
Bella-Angelique
There are so many good ones.
I suppose one of my favorites is one that I am unable to get as much information about as I would like, the Sage Kings of China and the culture that they arose from.
M.A.D
QUOTE (Razer @ May 13 2008, 04:35 AM) *
What are some of your favorite ancient mysteries? One of my favorites is Tiwanaku by lake Titicaca. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiwanaku

How about you?

That that made me in my image, That that is i am the one out of the two the whole of the all the first and the last and everything in between.
Guyver
The world before Adam. Also, the world before the flood. Plus everything else that people have already mentioned. Noah's ark is a goodie too!

Razer
I had not heard about the "disappearance of the villageers on Roanoke Island" or much about "Sage Kings of China". Thanks for posting these, I'm off to google now. laugh.gif grin2.gif

Keep posting your favorites, it may just be the first time someone has read about it and if they are anything like me, and probably you, they would really appreciate learning about a "new" ancient mystery.

Edit:

Here is the wiki link on Roanoke if anyone is interested:

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:bDpHh...;cd=1&gl=us

Also, here is a blurb about the Sage Kings of China:

Legendary rulers of China c. 2800–c. 2200. Of the three sovereigns and five emperors based in the Huang He (Yellow River) region, Huang-tu (reigned c. 2697 BC) is credited with defeating the barbarians. The era has been associated with the domestication of animals, agricultural development, the gradual replacement of stone implements with bronze, and the formation of larger tribal confederacies.

source: http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/encyclo...n/m0038474.html
MolonLabe
Absolutely anything Egyptian in regards to mathematics interests me greatly.

Prior civilizations before the Egyptians/Sumerians/Assyrians dealing with Neolithic peoples as well as the emergence from the Ice Age into the first civilized acts.
LucidElement
what is the mystery of the Sage Kings of China?
REBEL
Basically anything Ancient Nth/Sth American...
(The lands of the gods <--note plural) lol!...Structures/Texts/Symbolism etc...

-The Olmecs
-The Mexican/Aztecs
-The Mayas
Complete Resource Links

and of course last but by no way least Nth American Indians (Warriors of wisdom & truth)


iain c
who shaved off my eyebrows in 1989??? come on you know who you are
wolfknight
I think Easter Island.
wolfknight
QUOTE (iain c @ May 14 2008, 09:06 AM) *
who shaved off my eyebrows in 1989??? come on you know who you are

I admitt I did it and it was funny. thumbsup.gif The devil made me do it devil.gif
iain c
QUOTE (wolfknight @ May 14 2008, 01:34 PM) *
I admitt I did it and it was funny. thumbsup.gif The devil made me do it devil.gif

hehehe why i owrra,ill get you back,somehow ill get you,watch your back wolfknight wink2.gif
The Maharaja
Okay mine are

1 The harappan civilization
2 The moachi
3 What,s in Quin Quin Shi Hung Di, Tomb
$ Was Cleopatra as hot as they said
4 The Spinx how it was done
5 The Anastashi indians

And lots lots more, Oh Iian C sorry about the eyebrows man grin2.gif
Harte
QUOTE (The Maharaja @ May 14 2008, 09:02 AM) *
Okay mine are

1 The harappan civilization
2 The moachi
3 What,s in Quin Quin Shi Hung Di, Tomb
$ Was Cleopatra as hot as they said
4 The Spinx how it was done
5 The Anastashi indians

And lots lots more, Oh Iian C sorry about the eyebrows man grin2.gif

2) what's a moachi??

3) Here ya go

$) Re Cleo, I believe I read where she was actually fairly plain-looking.

Plain, but (apparently) talented!

4) There's no mystery regarding how the Sphinx was "done."

5) what do you want to know about the Anasazi?

Harte
Darkwind
Stonehenge, what was it built for.
The Pyramids, how were they built.
The 6 wonders of the ancient world that are no longer here to be seen. What they looked like and how they were built.
The library at Alexandra, what the world would have been like if it had not been lost.
REBEL
QUOTE (Darkwind @ May 15 2008, 12:08 AM) *
Stonehenge, what was it built for.
The Pyramids, how were they built.
The 6 wonders of the ancient world that are no longer here to be seen. What they looked like and how they were built.

The library at Alexandra, what the world would have been like if it had not been lost.


From whats been said/written; intentionally pillaged/ransacked and torched to the ground(?)
Harte
QUOTE (REBEL @ May 14 2008, 09:53 AM) *
From whats been said/written; intentionally pillaged/ransacked and torched to the ground(?)

Actually, various parts were "burned" or otherwise damaged at various times over a century or so.

The last time was by accident.

Also, it's likely that not much was lost. This was a Greek library. There were many more Greek libraries older than the one in Alexandria that survived unscathed until modern times.

Harte
REBEL
QUOTE (Harte @ May 15 2008, 12:32 AM) *
Actually, various parts were "burned" or otherwise damaged at various times over a century or so.

The last time was by accident.

Also, it's likely that not much was lost. This was a Greek library. There were many more Greek libraries older than the one in Alexandria that survived unscathed until modern times.

Harte

According to Sagan Harte, it was ''The brain & glory of the greatest city on planet earth.''...

Sound like more than just your run of the mill library.



Bella-Angelique
QUOTE (Harte @ May 14 2008, 11:02 AM) *
There were many more Greek libraries older than the one in Alexandria that survived unscathed until modern times.

Harte


But not one where the Jewish diaspora studied, had the Septuagint, and had Jesus as a student.
Герой Советского Союза
Had Jesus as a student ???, the only link between 'A' Jesus and the Alexandria library is the book The Wisdom of Jesus son of Sirach (not the one guy on the crucifix) which was in the second century BCE. Any Help ??
Bella-Angelique
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Any Help ??
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Common knowledge that the Jewish diaspora studied there, common knowledge that he lived there, and common knowledge that he could read at age 12 which means he was one of the scholars there.
LucidElement
Shi Hung Di, what is the mystery about that....

wikipedia - "For 2000 years, a secret army of clay soldiers protected the hidden tomb of China's first emperor, Qin Shi Huang. Until 1974 none knew of its existence; now Chinese archaeologists are gradually unfolding the mystery...

what are they trying to unfold?

Harte
QUOTE (REBEL @ May 14 2008, 10:11 AM) *
According to Sagan Harte, it was ''The brain & glory of the greatest city on planet earth.''...

Sound like more than just your run of the mill library.

Most of the works there were taken under false pretenses from other libraries.

They were supposed to go there to be "copied," with the originals to be returned to the other libraries they'd been borrowed from.

But they ended up returning the copies and keeping the originals.

Not really that big of a deal back then, maybe, since the "originals" were also probably copies - most of them.

It was a large repository of knowledge that was already available in other libraries, just not all in one place, for the most part.

From what we know of it, anyway.

Harte
Bella-Angelique
QUOTE (LucidElement @ May 14 2008, 12:53 PM) *
Shi Hung Di, what is the mystery about that....

wikipedia - "For 2000 years, a secret army of clay soldiers protected the hidden tomb of China's first emperor, Qin Shi Huang. Until 1974 none knew of its existence; now Chinese archaeologists are gradually unfolding the mystery...

what are they trying to unfold?


Pretty sure he means the central area of the burial mound, where all the high concentration of mercury is and where they think there was probably not any looting done, that is still buried.
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (Bella-Angelique @ May 14 2008, 11:26 AM) *
[quote name='Геро
Any Help ??


Common knowledge that the Jewish diaspora studied there, common knowledge that he lived there, and common knowledge that he could read at age 12 which means he was one of the scholars there.


common knowledge that jesus knew ALOT about stonework . most scholars think he was in fact like his father - a day laborer - not a student. He may have been taught to read some but that is not proof of anything else.
WARRIOR FOR THE LIGHT
The location of Jesus and Mary;s tombs...the real ones!
MolonLabe
QUOTE (Harte @ May 14 2008, 07:28 AM) *
4) There's no mystery regarding how the Sphinx was "done."

True...but it gets weirder when one takes into account the Valley temple and the Sphinx temple.

The huge stones of Ba'albek are an even greater mystery

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Harte
Granted, the stones are huge, but they're not really a mystery either.

The Romans placed these stones using Roman Cranes.

Harte
theghost
Where my matching socks go after they been washed.and where bigfoot is.
Harte
Bigfoot?

Why, he's running off with your socks!

Harte
theghost
QUOTE (Harte @ May 14 2008, 01:12 PM) *
Bigfoot?

Why, he's running off with your socks!

Harte

I think so,for every time I do find a matching pair theres a big hole in the front toe of the sock.think he likes tube socks though.LOL
bee
QUOTE (Harte @ May 14 2008, 07:55 PM) *
Granted, the stones are huge, but they're not really a mystery either.

The Romans placed these stones using Roman Cranes.



Obviously one of your little jokes.... rolleyes.gif

For ***** sake Harte.....can't you just leave these people alone and give them a break... yes.gif

Or alternatively....perhaps everyone should cast hundreds of ancient mysteries into this
thread.....then you'll wear your fingers down to the bone.....the keys on your keyboard
will ping out.....and the sceptics reference site will spontaneously combust....under the
strain...... ohmy.gif

Just to keep you busy for the foreseeable future...... thumbsup.gif

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The Anunnaki
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Sitchins translations of ancient script
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Shifting poles
Hole at the pole......
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Harte
QUOTE (bee @ May 14 2008, 03:44 PM) *
Obviously one of your little jokes.... rolleyes.gif

For ***** sake Harte.....can't you just leave these people alone and give them a break... yes.gif

Or alternatively....perhaps everyone should cast hundreds of ancient mysteries into this
thread.....then you'll wear your fingers down to the bone.....the keys on your keyboard
will ping out.....and the sceptics reference site will spontaneously combust....under the
strain...... ohmy.gif


Bee,

That was quite funny. Really.

But no, I'm not kidding.

Have a read:
Baalbek built entirely by the Romans

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A German expedition dug 1904/1905 through to the foundations of the temple. The temple platform is through and through of Roman origin. They found typical roman masonery, roman trash and so on, down to the bedrock. Nothing un-Roman was found! Btw: The temple platform was not built from massive stone, but typically roman honeycombed. Only the outer shell looks like a massive building.

Fourth: The trash you can read about the temple comes mostly from a book from 1864 ("Voyage autour de la mer morte" by Felicien ce Saulcy) and an article from a professor Modeste Agrest, who based his story on a book "published in Paris in 1898" - long before any serious dig was done. These sources were used by authors like Daeniken and Sitchin. The first real investigation from 1904/1905, published 1921 (Wiegand, Ballbek, 3 bde, 1921-1925), is "forgotten" by these guys.

I love Frank Doernenburg.

Sorry for popping another one of your balloons. Feel free to ignore the facts if it makes you feel better.

I mean, don't go changin'

Harte
Moro
Did the Sphinx head always look like that? Because, it seems to be improportionate to the body.
MolonLabe
QUOTE (Moro Bumbleroot @ May 14 2008, 03:32 PM) *
Did the Sphinx head always look like that? Because, it seems to be improportionate to the body.

The head as it is carved does not share the characteristic weathering patterns on the rest of the body and considering that it is more greatly exposed, it should have more wear. The fact that it doesn't indicates that it was carved much later on after the sphinx was first carved in earlier antiquity.
REBEL
QUOTE (MolonLabe @ May 15 2008, 09:28 AM) *
The head as it is carved does not share the characteristic weathering patterns on the rest of the body and considering that it is more greatly exposed, it should have more wear. The fact that it doesn't indicates that it was carved much later on after the sphinx was first carved in earlier antiquity.


Meaning what exactly?;
Was it maybe a head of a lion, man, dog, dare i say it et/alien, just genuinely curious as to your take...
MolonLabe
To be honest I really don't know what image it was originally. But it could have been a lion, or a dog(I am partial to it being a dog). Perhaps the present image of the exterior repairs placed in the shape of a lion has more to do with what those who repaired it thought it may have been...rather than what it originally was.

The face as we see it is typically black African from the south(upper egypt or further south). I don't see much resemblance to that of Khafre at all.
Rosewin
All of the world's megaliths and why some of them are aligned to the way the constellations looked in 10,500 BCE. What happened on that date?
jay-ooo
QUOTE (MolonLabe @ May 14 2008, 09:07 AM) *
Absolutely anything Egyptian in regards to mathematics interests me greatly.

Prior civilizations before the Egyptians/Sumerians/Assyrians dealing with Neolithic peoples as well as the emergence from the Ice Age into the first civilized acts.



egyptians are proper interestin they baffell me though just how they could mummifie and preserve a body thousand n thousand's of years ago yet we still cant do that now
Harte
QUOTE (MolonLabe @ May 14 2008, 05:58 PM) *
The head as it is carved does not share the characteristic weathering patterns on the rest of the body and considering that it is more greatly exposed, it should have more wear. The fact that it doesn't indicates that it was carved much later on after the sphinx was first carved in earlier antiquity.

Actually, that isn't the case. Or, to put it more accurately, you can't judge the age of the head vs. the body based on erosion.

The limestone in the area is extremely variable. The stone making up the head is much more durable than many of the lower layers.

If this were not so, the head wouldn't be an outcrop. By that I mean that the part of the stone that makes up the head rises above the rest of the ground. Such outcroppings dot certain areas of Egypt (and it's surroundings.) They are usually called "sphinxes" because they are reminiscent of the sphinx, who's head is just another one of the outcroppings.

A better explanation is that there is a large crack running through the sphinx and through the entire enclosure (including the floor) from approximately north to south.

The crack goes through the sphinx carving very near where the rump of the sphinx would be if the sphinx body was carved in proportion to the head.

It's proposed that the Egyptians carved the head and then the body. When they got to the body, they had to change the dimensions or the crack would have been too near the rump - and the rump could have possibly simply fallen off.

Lengthening the body put the crack well into the body of the sphinx, ensuring no such deformation would occur.

At least, that's the hypothesis. No one really knows.

QUOTE (Clovis @ May 15 2008, 04:29 AM) *
All of the world's megaliths and why some of them are aligned to the way the constellations looked in 10,500 BCE. What happened on that date?

They are not aligned in that way, so what we have here is an answer looking for a question.

Harte
Bella-Angelique
QUOTE (Lt_Ripley @ May 14 2008, 02:11 PM) *
common knowledge that jesus knew ALOT about stonework . most scholars think he was in fact like his father - a day laborer - not a student. He may have been taught to read some but that is not proof of anything else.


Does not really matter what spin anyone tries to give it.
They cannot spin the bible story to the point of actually changing the text.
The story clearly states he was amazingly literate at age 12 and that he came from Alexandria.
That means he was an Alexandrian scholar of the Jewish diaspora there.

It might not appear as miraculous to know he learned from books like everyone else, but it is what it is and the actual text of the story shows it.
Harte
QUOTE (Bella-Angelique @ May 15 2008, 06:47 AM) *
The story clearly states he was amazingly literate at age 12 and that he came from Alexandria.
That means he was an Alexandrian scholar of the Jewish diaspora there.

It might not appear as miraculous to know he learned from books like everyone else, but it is what it is and the actual text of the story shows it.

Hate to appear to be Biblically illiterate, but can you provide a link to this story in the Bible?

Harte
Bella-Angelique
QUOTE (Harte @ May 15 2008, 08:55 AM) *
Hate to appear to be Biblically illiterate, but can you provide a link to this story in the Bible?

Harte


Am quickly running out of time so will briefly say that story starts with family moving to Alexandria and then there is his temple visit at age 12.

He is seen reading to groups at various other points through the story with a different interpretation of texts from those common to the area, as one would expect from a different school of thought in the diaspora and why the Septuagint was seen as needed in the first place, because of the concern of differences arising.

Harte
QUOTE (Bella-Angelique @ May 15 2008, 08:03 AM) *
Am quickly running out of time so will briefly say that story starts with family moving to Alexandria and then there is his temple visit at age 12.

He is seen reading to groups at various other points through the story with a different interpretation of texts from those common to the area, as one would expect from a different school of thought in the diaspora and why the Septuagint was seen as needed in the first place, because of the concern of differences arising.

Maybe, but a quick search of two versions of the Bible itself turned up only four references to Alexandria.

All in Acts, all concerning happenings in Alexandria involving Apostles after the death of Jesus.

Here's a link to the King James version and the four citations therein:
LINK

Harte
The Maharaja
QUOTE (Bella-Angelique @ May 14 2008, 05:07 PM) *
Pretty sure he means the central area of the burial mound, where all the high concentration of mercury is and where they think there was probably not any looting done, that is still buried.

Thank you Bella-Angelique the burial mound is indeed unopened, it is every archeologists dream to be the first person to set foot in it to actually see for themselves what is inside
The Maharaja
QUOTE (MolonLabe @ May 14 2008, 07:41 PM) *
True...but it gets weirder when one takes into account the Valley temple and the Sphinx temple.

The huge stones of Ba'albek are an even greater mystery

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Yes thats what i mean also it would of been cool to of seen it with our own eyes
The Maharaja
QUOTE (Harte @ May 14 2008, 03:28 PM) *
2) what's a moachi??

3) Here ya go

$) Re Cleo, I believe I read where she was actually fairly plain-looking.

Plain, but (apparently) talented!

4) There's no mystery regarding how the Sphinx was "done."

5) what do you want to know about the Anasazi?

Harte

2/ sorry moche, is what i meant
3/ see above post
4./ i would of liked to of seen it being built and experiance all the excitement and the head is fishy
5./ what have you got
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