Speaking with the Alex Jones Show, actor Tommy Chong, whose offices were subject of a raid this week by the FBI who seized 10,000 political DVD’s, said he "absolutely" doubted the official story of 9/11 and compared it to the JFK assassination in that the truth will take many years to finally come out.
"The biggest inconsistency is the fact that who was allowed to fly after everything was shut down - it was the Bin Ladens - it would have been great to ask them some questions," said Chong.

Chong also spoke about prior knowledge concerning Pearl Harbor, noting, "They needed Pearl Harbor to launch a bigger war and that was the same with 9/11."

"You could speculate, but you don’t have to speculate with facts," said Chong, "These are cold hard facts, the fact that the Bin Laden family was allowed to escape America, that’s a fact, the fact that certain people weren’t in the buildings that kind of knew the buildings were gonna go down, that’s a fact."

As Haaretz http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744 reported on September 26, 2001, Odigo, the instant messaging service, indicated “two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen."

The actor agreed that the massing of U.S. troops of the borders of Uzbekistan and Tajikistan in the months before the invasion of Afghanistan was another smoking gun.

listen to a clip of the MP3 interview with Tommy Chong: http://prisonplanet.com/audio/090508chong.mp3

Charlie Sheen is also a disbeliever in the official 911 story.

Moved to Conspiracies & Secret Societies

Yeah, and he is an actor as well. Why do some of you people place so much stock in what a millionaire actor has to say about arguments political in nature? You should be the experts and trust your own ideas rather than be told what to believe by any actor that has no secondary education who hasn't voted in 27 years.

They are just reinforcing my belief and have a greater voice to do so. My stock is placed in my own conclusions. If someone with a greater voice mirrors them I am not going to begrudge them.

That and you know your sailing for success if Tommy Chong agrees with you

Bet all of those other actors were like "great ... nothing makes you look as druggied as chong backing your conspiracy"



Hey Chong, your mouthing off on insufficient hearsay maaaan .... Go smoke some Labradore.

I wonder what was on the DVDs that was to important the FBI raided his office and took them.

There are some actors that I respect and feel that they would make a good honest person for representing different ideals.

I personally wouldnt hang my hat on the guy known as the icon for over excessive drug use...it lends itself to credibility issues in my opinion. Just because someone has had a camera in front of them doesnt mean they are necessarily a good person to represent your beliefs. Just my opinion. I'd personally be aiming for someone who hadnt spent time in prison and fried a great many brain cells with every form of recreational drug known to mankind, but hey, that's just me.

I do not need to speculate that in a conspiracy you do things not to be noticed and as efficiently as planned. If there is no plan to follow then there is no conspiracy.
Taking off after watching the show in the enemy camp is neither low profile nor efficient in obtaining an objective.

Mistaking emotions as fact, such as feeling that someone knew it was going to happen because it suits an already existing belief system, is a clear sign of an irrational mind.

Perhaps Bush and the 9/11 conspiracy theorists have more in common with each other than they realize.

Wwuoooaaawwww mannn... I didn't know Chong was Canadian?... I just found that out.


Tommy Chong

Tommy Chong? What, this one? Yup, an authoritative voice there. He should certainly know what he's talking about when it comes to the truth behind 9/11.

Not so much a fact. The Bin Laden family did not leave the US until the 20th of September and only after they were questioned. Hardly seems like an "escape".
http://www.911myths.com/html/family_flights.html

The fact is, Tommy Chong is using his name, as so many celebrities do, to push his agenda...his beliefs. And obviously the press is using him to further their own agenda.
It's a habit...

He obviously has his facts screwed in a little off-center, and the really telling thing is that they mention in this article the fact that "his offices" were raided and 10,000 "political DVDs" were siezed--and don't explain that, making it seem like that is somehow associated with his views, or that the government is doing this to him because they don't like his views...

Baloney.

The various offices raided were not Chongs. They included those of Spectrum Labs, who is the distributor of the film a/k/a/ Tommy Chong (a movie which Chong claims no ownership right to).
The seizure was part of an ongoing operation being conducted against companies that are alleged to be distributing products that make it possible for people to mask their drug use in order to pass pre-employment screenings.

The operation is similar to that which wound up getting Chong imprisoned for distributing drug paraphernalia on the internet a few years back.

Speculation is that the film is being looked at to see if there's anything in it supporting these products, and perhaps to asess whether Chong, or the owners, may be profiting from his crime (which the film is about).

This is not news...

What we have here is a guy who spent 9 months in jail for admittedly distributing drug paraphenalia on-line, who is an advocate of marijuana use, and obviously has smoked a little too much...too many times...
...a guy who has fried more neurons than most of us have intact in his life, making political commentary. It is utterly ineffectual.
Caring about such comments is ridiculous. Publishing them perhaps moreso.

No celebrity's views are any more valuable than one's own...regular folks. A celebrity has no qualifications to make his or her views any more substantive than those of joe average...

That many people think so is highly disturbing.

You sound like you just woke up from the 50's.. impressive rant none the less.. just one thing.. what are the qualifications for regular folk and how does this exclude Mr. Chong?

I didn't say it excluded Mr. Chong.
How about reading what was said, and can the snide remarks?




Uh, get it?

Mr. Chongs opinions are EQUAL TO ANYONE ELSE'S. He's not an authority, and deserves no more than Joe Average does...in fact, there are certainly many Joe Average's out there who have more brain power, and more substantive and well thought out opinions than he...



Rhetorical question...what the hell does that mean?

Great! it just keeps getting better..

Five years after taking the lead in "Operation Pipe Dreams," which prosecuted people who sold marijuana pipes around the country, U.S. Attorney Mary Beth Buchanan is leading a similar investigation called "Operation True Test."

The newest project for Ms. Buchanan is looking into companies that sell "masking products" that are supposed to help drug-users pass employer drug tests.

Opponents of the products contend that they can put the public at risk if a person like an airline pilot were to use them to hide drugs in his system. The products are regulated on a state-by-state basis; there is no federal law covering them. Very intersting..

Another target was the business in Signal Hill, Calif., that makes The Whizzinator, a prosthetic penis in which clean urine is stored to be used to beat drug tests monitored by an observer.

But critics, including comedian Tommy Chong, whom Ms. Buchanan prosecuted as part of Operation Pipe Dreams, say this is just another example of a frivolous prosecution and misplaced priorities.


"The terrorists crash into her area, and she's concentrating on porn and bongs," Mr. Chong said, referring to the Sept. 11, 2001, crash of United Flight 93 in Somerset County. "That kind of tells you the direction she's headed."

heres the link to that story: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08132/880918-52.stm

I find it ironic that the people who are saying that a pot head like tommy Chong has zero credibility, are the same folks who are willing to believe everything a coke head like dubya says. How stoned would Mr. Chong have to be to read a childrens book upside down while the country is under attack?



.....knock, knock, knock.....
Dubya; "who is it?"
Osama; "its me Osama, open up I got the stuff."
.....knock, knock, knock.....
Dubya; "who is it?"
Osama; "its me Osama, open up man I got the stuff."
Dubya; "who?"
Osama; "its Osama, man open up I think homeland security saw me come in here."
.....knock, knock, knock.....
Dubya; "who is it?"
Osama; "its Osama man, open up."
Dubya; "Osama?"
Osama; "yeah Osama, come on man open up.................
Dubya; "Osamas not here"

Why the focus on his drug use, Bush has done cocaine an drunk driving.

Pick your favourite celebrities who doubt the ‘official’ story here: -

Patriots Question 9/11: 130+ Artists, Entertainers and Media Professionals

My favourites are Britain’s Middle East correspondent, Robert Fisk, and Eminem!

Be sure to take note of the many more serious categories - government, engineers, pilots and professors - whilst you're there.

Interesting site.... check out the weirdo who put Chong in prison.
John Ashcroft.



link

Robert Fisk, as anyone familiar with his work will know, has a deep dislike of America dating back years. He's not exactly neutral.
Eminen, though; yes, i believe Obama/McCain/Hillary (as appropriate) have him pencilled in for the position of Secretary of State.

I think we're somewhat missing the point.
The focus isn't actually on his drug use...it's on the idea that his opinions have some innate quality, or come from qualifications that mean something special enough to warrant publication, or to have them absorbed by the general public and viewed as something special...the voice of authority or something.


Sean Penn? Bruce Springsteen?

Well, there was always Frank Zappa, who hadn't fried any neurons with drugs and alcohol...one could always listen to Frank, and hear a genius...his opinions meant something...but then again, I don't think he thought of himself as a "celebrity" much...

Relating a Bush DUI and some alleged but never confirmed cocaine use to Tommy Chong, a lifelong pot head and convict for selling paraphenalia is stupid.

Bush is not a pot head, and he doesn't drink. Tommy Chong has fried more neurons than most of us have in his lifetime.

Midge...

Your comments are far too over-the-top, even for you.

Bush is not a coke-head. In fact, there is no evidence he ever did it at all. That was put to rest 8 years ago.


As to the upside-down book, there are a couple of things which your dubya hatred, and your lack of knowledge indicate here:


1. Dubya didn't know that the country was being attacked at that moment (it was obvious when he did know this...).

2. Do you honestly think Dubya was reading an upside-down book?

...a hint for you from someone who knows alot about hard-bound book production: Hard bound books are manually fed into a binding machine which re-enforces the spine and applies the cover automatically. The books are fed based on the patterns of the sewing thread on the spine of the book....every once in a while, one is fed backwards (one cannot see the orientation of the contents when feeding books into a binding machine...you look at the spacing between the spine stiching threads)...the result being that the book comes out with the COVER on upside-down. It happens, trust me. And , being that no one sees this transgression as inspection is a random sampling at the end of the building in-line (which puts the cover on the book), upside down COVERS sometimes get shipped. This is what Dubya is holding in his hand, an upside down cover. He's looking at the text in the correct orientation...


Christ...we're talking about a pot-head's opinions here and comparing them to the President of the United States'...
The fact is, Chong probably wouldn't have to be stoned to read a book upside down...

blah, blah, blah... one day marajuana will be de-criminalized and you'll be forced to adjust to that fact....

..until then we see your point : pot head = criminal

Whatever, there is no conspiracy. It was executed by 19 Jihadists.

.. there is a Fema Camp waiting for you and your followers..

..good luck!

acidhead (pleaese don't tell me that's a litteral appelation...?!),

Your reading skills are bereft.

No one said anything about pothead equaling criminal.

We're talking about a pot head's ( a serious pot head's) opinions being considered as something more than just that....


I could care less about marijuana becoming legal. I won't need to adjust to anything....and that has nothing to do with anything here.

Tommy Chong became a criminal because of his actions...not because of his pot-head status (although that was involved, certainly...but pot heads don't have to become criminals...some choose to).



"Bah, blah, blah" is a childish non-response to the post.

My point is something that you obviosuly didn't see.

A "FEMA CAMP"?




Are you answering me in the affirmative with a nonsensical comment like that?

If there is anyone who needs to smoke a blunt and chill out it's that guy.

Yeah, it was real "obvious" when he knew. You can clearly see him sit there after he knew for 7 minutes with a hopeless look on his face like he is having a acid flashback or something. His neurons are so fried that he sat there for 7 minutes like a clown, rather than discretely excusing himself to do his job. How fried does someone's neurons have to be to believe dubya had to sit there as to not upset the children? Is he so stupid that his only other option would be to stand up and start screaming "americas under attack, your all gonna die!"?? No, he could have just told the children he was sorry but he had to go and would try to come back soon.

Its amazing people just act like this was no big deal. Then again when you look at his approval rating its clear most people don't think Bush has done a good job. I guess there will allways be a few people out there who are willing to accept anything their leaders do.

You don't need worry about them MID, since you seem willing to believe and do whatever the government tells you.

Well. If Tommy Chong says so.......

I think anyone would feel that way about the US after having lived in the Middle East for 30 years.

And, I’m not even joking, I have no doubt Eminem would do a better job than Condi Rice.

I see you don't prefer to address the point.

As to yours...
THERE WAS NOTHING HE COULD'VE DONE AT THAT MOMENT. In fact, he didn't have the information he needed to make any active decisions at that moment. Perhaps you think that he didn't have his staff preparing the aircraft, consulting to get all the information, and setting up lines of communication while he finished with a group of young children...rather than causing a ruckus by running off?



If one looks at Congress, one will see a consistently, and utterly deserved LOWER approval rating than that of the President. It speaks volumes to what's really been going on (and, that Congressional rating has gotten worse since the Democrats won the majority).


This has absolutely nothing with some people accepting anything their leaders do (probably the minority do... a small minority, actually). It has to do with people not liking much of what their leaders do.


Personally, I appreciate alot of Bush's actions....but there are some things I find alot of disagreement with.

But again, that's hardly the point of what I said.
You're obviously not inclined to address what I said, and prefer to spew Bush-Hatred.


That's fine. It's pointless, but it's fine.

The fact that you're not joking about the crazy idea that a pseudo-"musician", an uneducated "Hip Hop Artist", an inconsequential boob, could do a "better job" at a most difficult and touchy endeavor than a PhD who speaks 5 languages fluently and has aquitted herself spectacularly in all of her fields of endeavor is most distressing...


"Eminem" (Jesus), has a hard time with one language...let alone 5, and his educational background?

Well....

What is it with folks expecting the President to fix everything, solve all the problems, defuse any crisis??? Good Lord, he's a man. Folks screamed to high heaven when he wasn't in New Orleans the next day after Katrina...could he fill sandbags any faster than anyone else? Is his symbolic photo op so important to the populace for their immediate survival?? Could he start barking orders ala Tommy Lee Jones in Volcano LA, swiftly fixing things (complete with virtually instantaneous planning, preparation and execution of a high rise CD)? Folks watch too much TV.
About the only thing productive he could do was to give shootdown orders to whatever meager assets were available, and watch.That's what he did. He doesn't order fighter scrambles...he (nor anyone else) doesn't have a magic all seeing Command Post ala Independence Day where they micromanage every detail down to radar tracks and missile launch counts. That's Hollywood, folks! If people think this is the way the world and C3I works, we're in deep doo doo, and it would explain the ignorant conspiracy claims...they really, truly think such things are possible!!!
The DOT boss had his authorities without the Prez's nod to shut down the airspace, the air bosses were already arranging loading fighters with missiles, all too little, too late. Confusion reigned on the current situation...nobody had the real big picture...nobody.
The President would have been slammed whatever he did, considering the recent election controversy. His choice to remain where he was for a short time made no difference in the outcome of things. Activities well below his level might have had a chance, but didn't.
Presidents drive policy. They have the morass of politics and Congress, which generally results in a lukewarm generally "middle ground" situation. What might Reagan have done...Carter...Clinton...?
We can only guess, but the final outcome of the day would have most probably been identical.

As for M&M and Chong...consider the source...

I didn’t mean to champion Eminem for next Secretary of State, rather get across the point I don’t like the job Condoleezza is doing... something to do with that US foreign policy I guess. If I hear her say “suspend” many more times in relation to Iran, it's gonna drive me crazy.

Well if George Bush tells ya You can sit there and say with a strieght face you believe him? bush, I mean. I would take the word from a crackhead over bush. The crackhead wants 10 bucks Bush want's well what ever Bush wants. What Bush want's scares the hell outa be and his legacy will prove what a freakin criminal he IS. Bush is a f'n killer, murderer,lier and deseves to get a cancer of the highest order !!!!

Iran denies the holocaust. They proclaim their desire to see the destruction of the Jews (not just Israel). They are working on nuclear power.
How is it that, while denouncing NIEs stating that Iraq had WMDs (which they obviously were capable of, ask the Kurds), and a nuclear ambition, that the "current" NIE, saying Iran has no nuclear ambition, is so readily, unquestionably accepted as fact? Same administration, same intelligence community...what has changed so radically in Iran that they are no longer a threat to the region? What new intelligence capability do we now posess for such an unequivocal consensus? And why is the UN still hounding them?

Iran is not the "fluffy bunny" we see from afar...ask Lebanon.

Well I guess you want to hop on your white horse and save Iran from it's leader as well. Fire up the jets and lets go yeeehaaa. The Turk's are now attacking the kurds, should you go to war with the Turk's now? The so called WMD's you speak of were sold to Iraq from the U.S. so of course the U.S new about WMD's but the U.S. also now the shelf life of these weapons, they had expired big time. Hence NONE were ever found, period... Iran may be a threat but as of yet only Israel has nukes, how would you think if a country said to the U.S. sorry no nukes for you and only nukes for Russia. Scary huh. The M.E. needs to take care of it's self and Israel has the capability of doing that. The more U.S. involvment the worse the situation. Iran knows full well what will happen if it ever fires a nuke at Israel, complete obliteration. You have fallen into the thinking that nukes mean they will be used. Has India fired at Pakistan yet? NO but yet one goverment is close to being over throwen by the Taliban, we should worry about that, no ?


Oh and Iran denies the holocaust or it's extent, who care's. It's one small country and the whole country probably doesn't feel the same. Just look at America and how the people there think of Bush. Or the fact that the world does not approve of Bush. It's a good thing America has a huge military cause I'm sure many nations would like to take him out as well. Bush with Nukes scares me more than anything....

I am not even sure what "point" you are talking about. Are you talking about this tid-bit of wisdom?



In the words of Dick Cheney when questioned about the opinion of the American public being against the war in Iraq, "so?". So what? Dubya's opinions are not only comparable to that of a pot-head, they are worth a great deal less than anyone that hasn't shown themselves to be full-of-it. dubya's title and position are not a free-ticket to love and respect. I have, as have majority of Americans, judged him on his actions and he has failed to earn our respect. If you choose to pride yourself in a cult of personality, good for you.

How far down that rabbit hole of "loving the leader" have you fallen? Far enough to believe that for 7 minutes after being told we were under attack, "THERE WAS NOTHING HE COULD'VE DONE AT THAT MOMENT". Maybe he could have been going somewhere, anywhere, to do something, anything? The threat wasn't even over and you believe there was "nothing" he could do but sit on his butt? Sorry, but for someone who holds dubya in such high esteem you seem to contrast it in that statement with a portrait of an ineffective, unconsequential dope. I bet even a "pot head" like tommy chong found a couple of things to take care of in those first moments.

Say he goofed or was a deer in the headlights of 9/11 but this snow job that there was "nothing" the president could do for 7 minutes is a pathetic fantasy in league with the moon-hoax and hollow-earth. Heck, the moon-hoax is even more believible than that.

Snopes

Actually, it appears the photo was manipulated to make it look like he was holding it upside down. The original AP photo can be found to show it wasnt upside down.
Click to view attachment
I am not saying the guy isnt a numbskull, just in this particular case he isnt holding he book upside down.

That was an alternative I hadn't considered!
But it makes sense in this day and age of image manipulation.

Midge,

I think you're mistaking what I say for Bush-loving.

You may wish to believe that there was something the President could've done for those 7 minutes...even if it was nothing (which is what "going somewhere, anywhere, doing something, anything..." is). I suspect his getting up, excusing himself, and running about like a chicken with his head cut off is preferable to maintaining his composure, while his staff prepapred things for him, got lines of communication open, strted collecting briefing materials, etc...for the few short minutes it would take him to finish with the children.

The threat wasn't even over? The threat wasn't even known...just what had occurred in New York.


The fact is, I neither love nor hate President Bush. I consider him a good man, but I take exception to several things that have occurred on his watch (that's called healthy American criticism). Still, I do not feel the need to second guess the man, especially in the moments immediately following his being informed about the apparent attack on the World Trade Center towers, since I was not in the position of being the President of the United States at that moment. Few people can appreciate or understand the import of that position, and the pressures inherent in the responsibility.

I am not a Bush lover, nor am I what you appear to be, a Bush hater (which is very unhealthy and pointless American criticism). I do not think his overall performance warrants the highest of esteem, let alone love. That would be an extreme. Nor has anything he's done qualified for the unwarranted hatred that certain fringe people seem to have for him. That too is an extreme which he in no way deserves...

Stuff like this, for instance...



Jesus Christ...how sweet is that???


The point here is that if anyone wishes to place any particular value on Tommy Chong's neuron-impaired statements, they are full of it. And if anyone wishes to somehow equate Chong with the President of the United States in respect to lies about the latter's alleged drug use, that's just deranged.

The mindset that creates hatred of Bush is distressing in extremis, and the mindset which produces comments such as Silver's (above) is incredible.

By that logic, any President, entrusted with the defense of the country (as they all are) has to be a potential murderer in order to be elected, and some of them have indeed been murderers: like Wilson, Roosevelt, Reagan, Kennedy, Nixon, Johnson, Clinton, and both Bush's...


No, I'm not a Bush lover.
I also am not a Bush hater...

Unless they were setting up a comand center in the elementary school, time was lost. End of story.



Being under attack isn't a threat in of its self?

Hey, maybe thats why they came up with the Homeland Security Advisory System? Not to warn the public but to let the dopes in charge know when there is a threat. I mean, if in the face of the largest terrorist attack ever the threat wasn't even "known" to them, maybe a handy-dandy color-coded chart might help clue them in.

Vis-a-vis that, and perhaps slightly off topic, I was prompted to look up the Terror Alert Status currently. http://www.nationalterroralert.com/
Elevated. I must say I'm mildly surprised at that.
Though for aircraft, it's apparently High. So why would it be High for aircraft, but only Elevated generally? Sounds fishy to me.


That seems to say it all, somehow. "We've no idea, but we just want you all to stay in a vague state of anxiety."



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the more and more average people like Tommy Chong , Rosie O'Donnel, etc. who come forward,
the more obvious it becomes that Bush botched the 9/11 job so bad that it cannot even fool
the average person.

What gives you the impression that Tommy Chong and Rosie O'Donnel are "average people"???

I see you don't understand the concept of information gathering and command center set-up...


The people who do that were doing it. Air Force One was the initial, and wherever the President would be heading (also being decided during that time) would be the primary, albeit temporary center for the initial period of the crisis.

I think the end of the story is the fact that you fail to address the actual point I was making...in favor of promoting your Bush hatred...