when i was about ten, my dog, cora, began doing tricks without me telling her to, verbally at least. i was sitting on the porch in the evening about 12 feet away from her, i thought about her name, and a few seconds later her ears perked up and she looked at me, as if someone had called her name. thats how it started. I'm thirteen now, and three years later i can get my dog cora, to do many things without saying anything at all. since that evening, i began training her to stay, sit, come, lay down, stand, shake, and a few other things by communicating with her by other means. at the beginning it took a few times, more or less sometimes, to get her to respond, and when she did it would take a minute or two. now i can do it very easily it seems, and cora obeys within seconds.

basically what I'm asking for is insight. questions, answers, similar experiences, studies done on these types of things, anything at all relevant. thank you all in advance for your input.

What you are describing is known as telepathy.

Telepathy with pets is much more common than it is with other people. I would encourage you to keep using it this way. I once did a yahoo group search on telepathy and found 273 groups. There were three types of groups.
1. Those that studied every subject including telepathy.
2. Those that wanted to pratice telepathy.
3. Those that did pratice telepathy.

John

Howdy.

You may wish to Google clever hans.

Silent dog training is specialized, but well attested and proceeds by perfectly natural means. Behold, intelligence at work.

With all respect to John, it is no more telepathy than a poker player picking up on "tells," except that a dog has both better senses and also a shrewder idea of what to be looking, listening, and smelling for than most poker players ever figure out.

But just to be on the safe side, don't play poker until you understand what Cora read in you.

thats interesting. i might look into those sights

Information on telepathy with pets can be found at this link.
http://www.scottfree2b.com/default.cfm?pag...CID=ACC_SVboard

Other than my web site, another good site that describes telepathy is at this link.
http://www.telepathycourse.com/

I can see that your experience with your pet is authentically telepathic. Since most people do not recognize such a thing could be, you will need to rely on your own discernment more than anything else. That includes questioning your own beliefs and your own understandings on matters like this.

John

The dog is reading your body language. You may not speak to her, but are you gesturing a little more than you would if you were speaking?

Dogs become attached, they tend to pay a lot of attention to you. I think Cora came to you, as Moon said, when you made some form of body movement. Once you train them, specific tasks are associated with individual body movement. Over time, once they become accommodated with each individual body movements, they understand the tasks you want them to do. When you think about Cora performing a trick, you sub-consciously make the same body movement that you would when verbally announcing a task. You, however, don't realize it as you are too busy focusing on trying to get her to do a trick. The reason she recognizes the movement is because, as I stated above, she pays attention to you. But, I have no doubt in my mind that you two share a special bond, that many people and animals do.

Exactly.

If you really want to test it and honestly believe you have a psychic link with the dog, there's an easy way to find out - see if she does what you want without being able to see you, like with a blindfold on her or while you are behind a door.

i appreciate your insight, those are all very good points. one thing i didn't mention though, is that i never made any gestures or movements when i did these things, so i don't think she could be using body language. i will be sure to try the telepathy out of cora's sight, and let you know if it works if you want. thank you again for your view points

I think you are underestimating how many signals you subconsciously give your dog. I'm eager to hear your honest results with this.

I don't know about telepathy, and I suppose it is possible"I do not disbelieve in it",but it could also just be that your dog is doing tricks to get your attention, or it's natural tendency to want to please it's master.It could be as simple as that.Dogs want to please thier owners 24/7 and they are always seeking attention and love.

This is good. Animals get on better with people to can speak with them telepathically. In fact, telepathy is the communication of animals.

Well my dog communicates by preforming certain actions like making sounds and using her own body language to tell me what she wants.Not telepathy,I have had more realistic instances that could be considered telepathic with humans than I have with animals, and I have alsways had a very stronge bond with animals since I was a kid.All animals have ways of communicating there thoughts and feelings through body language and sounds.This would be there primary way of not only communicating with thier own species but with others as well.

People without telepathy will never receive telepathy from an animal, therefore, the animal has to make signs.

Well, one mystery is solved. Refraining from gross gestures when dealing with her is Cora's cue that it's time to play "guess what Dell wants."

Although I agree with Moonie's basic strategy, the design of any real test would need genuine work. Cora's sensory endowment and what she uses of her endowment are different from what most people would guess.

And, as the very fact we are having this discussion shows, most people underestimate the intelligence of those who cannot speak. Not just animals, but people, too.

Cora is probably not getting much from sight, because it's not as important to a dog as to most humans, and we have Dell's testimony that there isn't much to look at it. She will pick up on where you are looking, so mirrored sunglasses on you might be more practical than a blindfold on her. Baggy clothing would help, too, since she can assess your general muscle tone expertly, probably better than your own proprioception.

From Cora's point of view, when you think you are "being silent," she hears a brass band. Every breath you take is noted and analyzed. Most people are blissfully unaware how much they give away in breath, being too busy attending to "speech sounds." Cora knows better than to fall for that, as do people trained or practiced in this, like some actors and singers. Poker players, too.

And I don't know what you're going to do about smell. You probably think you don't have an odor, or to the extent you think about it, believe that you smell the same from one moment to the next.

So, it is very difficult to "disprove" telepathy. And you don't want to, because for whatever reason, having a smart dog is less interesting to you than having a psychic one.

Which is too bad, because the stream of communication could be two-way. But then, maybe you don't think Cora has anything interesting to say.

Bingo! Dogs can *read* us far, far better than we can read them. When a human does learn to read some of the subtle signs (albeit our sense of smell and hearing isn't at a dog's level) they are often referred to as being a "whisperer".

Oh, and I think that Cora probably has a great deal of interesting stuff to say, one just needs to listen on a different level.

i tried your suggestion about me being out of cora's sight when i tried to supposedly telepathically communicate. correct me if these were doubtable circumstances, but what i did was i left cora in the guest bedroom, then went upstairs to my bedroom, and tried telling her to get on the bed in the guest room. i did this for about thirty seconds, then went back down stairs. cora was walking around and sniffing the rug in the guest bedroom, so i went back upstairs. i tried telling her to get on the bed again for about another ten seconds before i could hear her jump on the bed downstairs. i went downstairs and sure enough she was laying on the bed. so i think this experiment worked, but i don't know if it means we can communicate telepathically.

what are your opinions on the results? id love to know.

I think you need to do something a little more complex than that. That could easily be attributed to her normal behaviors.

okay, i can see your point. what behavior would you suggest i experiment with?

A blindfold on her if it doesn't bug her would be best, then try to have her do various things while making sure not to make a sound.

If no blindfold, figure out some thing where you can see her, but she can't see you.

who and what proves this as a scientific fact?

I am not trying to discount the posibility at all,I'm just asking.I know there have been instances where pets have found there owners hundreds or even thousands of miles away on thier own.Animals are definitly capable of some truely amazing stuff.

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yeah, I think I would have heard about this,if it was scientifically proven that animals communicate telepathicly.I do not discount the possibility, as I tend to believe that everything communicate with everything else in the universe, but as far as i know all animals communicate with one another useing body language and sounds.

Example, growling, or posturing in a threatening manner as to warn others to stay away.working together via body language and sounds for hunting, etc, etc.There are so many examples of this all over the animal kingdom, but I have yet to see solid evidence that animals communicate by thought alone.

And not to dismiss the experiment in the guest room, but dogs are going to tend to get up on furniture and settle in to get comforatable.I know, I have a dog, and she always wants on a bed or a couch.It's just a better place to be than on the floor.

I think Cora might find the blindfold a little uncomfortable or distracting, i doubt she is in the habit of being blindfolded...basically we do not know if Cora has a habit of jumping on the guestroom bed (or any furniture for that matter) I can tell you my dog does not jump on the furniture. But, if I were conducting this experiment and I instructed him to do so and he did...I would most definately not dismiss it because he is doing something that he would normally not do.

Don't know about you, but I would like more info on Cora's habits.

cora doesn not get on the furniture very often, though she is allowed to. its hard for her to jump, because she has a very bad case of hip displaysia. occasionally she will get on a bed or couch, but not very often. as for the blind fold thing, that would probably work, as long as cora doesnt shake it off.

cora does have some other interesting habits that might on the slight chance concern the paranormal, if anyones interested.

I would be interested in that and also the consideration that you could pick up on some of cora's thoughts.

well, for coras habits:

-randomly barking
when i was about 12 i was laying on my bed, and cora randomly ran to the middle of the room and started barking. coras is a VERY friendly dog, the only time she barks is when she wants to play, but this was obviously not that kind of bark.
-scratching walls
when i was about 11 1/2 i was sitting on the couch (we have a really nice reclining one ). cora was sitting next to me, and suddenly she just got up and started scratching at the walls. we've actually had to repaint some parts of the walls one or two times because of it
chasing-
when you run, most dogs chase you, to them it is a game most likely. well, about a couple of months ago, cora began to do strange things. she will sometimes run back and forth along a wall, or sometimes act like she's chasing something, but nothing is there
pawing air-
cora will randomly sit somewhere and paw at nothing

these are all the strange behaviors of cora i can name off the top of my head. i know it seems farfetched, but you not believing me isnt going to make it a lie. still, i'd love to hear from you.

Which would go something like a rapid fire version of the following:

...Can I have a biscuit???...

Hello, biscuit? anyone with opposable thumbs help a brother out???...

pet me!!!...

biscuit???...

I have an itch...

scratch my ear...

is it dinner time? pet me again...

can we have another dinner?

Is the cat fair game, or are you really attached to it? They have others you know...fatter, slower cats at the pound, a lot of them, just sitting there...

OK, nap time...

Why am I not getting the petting I have come to deserve? Did the cat get promoted?

i tried you suggestion about the blindfold, and I'd like your opinions on the results:

basically i loosely tied a handkerchief around cora's head, so that it was blocking her sight (i also made sure she couldn't see through it ). it seemed to irritate her a little, she flicked her ears a couple of times, so i adjusted it to better accommodate them. anyways, she started in a sitting position, so i tried something simple, like telling her to lay down. i thought for a couple of minutes about it, and it didn't seem to be working, but finally she tilted her head, as if she was recognizing my voice, and laid down. after that i got her to stand up, a bit faster then she'd lain down, and then sit again.

I think there is something going on with dogs '6th sense'. I can tell whenever a family or friend is going to come to the house as my dog will sit in front of the door waiting for them for a good 5 minutes before they arrive. Also sometimes when he's crashed out in front of the fire I'll think to myself 'I'll take him for a walk' and he'll immediatley spring to life and go get his lead, even though I'm in another room in the house. Both examples occur at random times too so it's not as though it's his routine to go for a walk at certain times, and the people call at my house randomly. Although he only seems to know when people he knows reasonably well are coming...I've tried training him to give me advance warnings for when the Jehovah's Witnesses/Mormons come but sadly to no avail...lol. I can think of no other 'natrual' explanation other than some kind of pyschic/telepathic abilities.

I suggest you try thinking about taking Cora for a walk when she is asleep to see what happens...If she responds though you must take her out, because if she is anything like my dog she'll sulk and be cross with you for a little while...lol

I'd like to know how you go on trying this...also if anyone knows any other experiments to try with dogs I'd like to hear from you to try them on mine.

Cheers
ste

actually lol, I've done that already often before. once cora was laying downstairs, and i subconsciously thought about about how nice it would be to walk her to the park, and about forty seconds later she was next to me, all excited lol. cora is a big dog by the way, so i do walk her a bit to keep her in shape. i walk her every day for between 30-90 minutes more or less occasionally. anyways now sometimes i can just think the word "walk" and she'll come running up to me, then to the door and scratch at it, but this is a fairly new behavior, we're still practicing it.

Telepathy is something that is psychic. Means not able to being proven by logic. Namely science. Science prides itself on being able to prove and explain everything on earth. Which is not true. There are things unexplainable by science. One of them being telepathy. The ability to speak to animals using something called "mind message" which, animals are able to understand through pictures. Because that is the language of animals and most possibly out ancestors. But the wish to use their voices as the main mode of communication is very strong. Therefore they quit using telepathy, such that animals can no longer understand them. And now, in modern times, young children are able to use telepathy. But they do not use it for long because disbelieving adults always dismiss it as an active imagination. For example " the dog said he wants to play". Adults will not pay attention. Therefore, the children decide that spoken language is the best way to get adult's attention and, to be "normal", decide that telepathy, and all psychic abilities ae not normal. And so, the cycle continues. Therefore, I urge all who have telepathy not to give up their ability because it is a precious thing to know that your animal friends can understand you, and you, them.