Salaam (Peace)

The members of the BNG have found a group of large stones in a hidden area in rural Texas. I've put a couple pics of the place here and hope to get more, insha-Allah. There are eight stones; very tall, smooth stone in the north (approx. 19ft), three stones in the east and three in the west, and the smallest stone in the south. All the stones are made of granite. We are attempting, with difficulty, to speak directly with the land owner. The entire area is sealed off with numerous posted signs, and there are several other interconnected clearings in the surrounding forest, which are visible on google earth. Rumor has it that this is owned by some kind of “satanic cult”, with several other secret “chambers” [locked and guarded] in the area. If anyone has an understanding about such a construction, or if there are any groups or organizations that may (for any reason) have an interest in, or a knowledge of this place, please reply or contact me.

Sorry about the pics we were moving fast...


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It looks lie an interesting mystery. I tried to research it but came up empty. What do you think it is, are the towns people there interested in them?


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Speaking of salaam, I get the impression that these stones are set up on private property, which is posted as such, and apparently barred. You also mention haste in taking the photos, and it seems that you have not yet spoken to the landowner.

Could it be that you were trespassing when you took these photos?

Rumor has it? Rumor a lot of things. Even if the owner were practicing a Satanic ritual, what right would that give you to invade someone's privacy and distribute photographs of their belongings on the internet?

Salaam (Peace)

Initially, we did not even know the stones were really there, and the posted signs were not recognized until later. This is an Inter Faith Dialogue effort of the Occult Dawah Project, not an invasion. Iraq and Afghanistan were invasions, this is outreach. Since these pics were taken there has been some communication with members of those who are active at this site. Insha-Allah more pics are soon to come, with additional information.

what's the BNG?

yes i would definitely like to know what this is too.
seems suspect to me to trespass on someones property and then procede to try to
interrogate them for LEGAL activities that they are doing on their property.
not only sounds like harassment, but persecuting someone for their beliefs as well
as a number of civil liberties violations.
a mysterious group investigating peoples personal and LEGAL activities.
sounds fascist to me......

Salaam (Peace) About The BNG

The BNG is not about interrogation, harassment, and persecution. It would be quite contradicting if it were considering the members, including myself, are former occultists. It is about interfaith dialogue outside the mainstream idea of just muslims, christians, and the jewish being able to talk amongst themselves. Just as Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons reach out to the community, the BNG is doing the same.

The OP reports trespass and invasion of privacy. Calling criminal mischief "interfaith dialog" and "reaching out to the community" is balogna.

Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are pests, too. But they come to your door in the daylight, and leave promptly unless invited in. They do not cruise uninvited through your backyard in the nighttime, and they do not distribute pictures of what they find there on the web.

Who said these rumors and where did they hear them from? Has anyone seeing secret chambers or are just assuming they have to be there because their gut tells them so?

Either way I am not aware of any Satanist who erect stones that apppear to emulate megaliths. If anything it was done as art or it can be a Pagan site of worship. Not all Pagans, just a scant few who have nothing in common with the rest, are into Satanism. They are usually into earth based traditions. Some might include the stars. Other strains worship other gods that can be considered Pagan. None of those have any intentions of worshipping Satan.

Salaam (Peace)

The rumors seem to come mainly from a few people of mainstream religion, and I do not believe these people to be Satanic, yet we are awaiting their next response. I never went to such a place as a Satanist myself, so I'm inclined to believe otherwise. I believe they remain slightly hidden for the same reason that many other Pagan/Occult groups do, because they will be labeled as "Satanic" automatically. Mostly, Occult Orders have been driven underground, forced into secrecy for fear of persecution. I have found that when approached with a message of peaceful co-existence, they become as open and friendly as the Christians and Jewish communities with whom we have an ongoing interfaith dialogue and activity. Making the initial contact is the really big difference, but it always turns out (so far) to be members of your community. Also, occult groups will often value the interfaith relationship even more due to the forced isolation placed upon them.

Well occult groups, not the same as cults, will always remain hidden. Occult means hidden. While occult groups might be considered pagan they are not Pagans in the way Eurocentric Pagans and Neopagans identify themselves. They are two separate groups. The Pagans worship nature for the most but some have other practices. Occult groups are into hidden knowledge, old texts on magic, specialized rituals, a priesthood, spell craft of a different variety. While Pagans might have some similarities with the Occult groups, for those who cast circles as one, there still remains a vast different between the two. Pagans though will come out and have fairs at times but the Occult groups never will.

Uh, I don't get why you were there to start with. And why are you pursuing this? Your a Muslim, prior Satanist, trying to do what?

I'm glad I have finally met someone who kows what that means, do you know how many times I've tried to explain that??


This thead sounds more & more the begining of a sermon.

Salaam (Peace)

The reasons have been clearly stated by me and another BNG member on this thread. Such relationships have been previously established with members of Freemasonry, Golden Dawn, and some from the Rose Cross.

Can we just drop the whole trespassing bit? No one should encourage anyone trespass in pursuit of paranormal hunting but this thread should be about the interesting topic instead ^__^



A very common misconception it is ~_~ but do not get me wrong cause I have respect for the ones who get them confused and actually attempt to follow both paths while forming a new belief system. Sure it is based off of Hollywood and books and such but the 'Pagan Occult' followers believe in magic and that is just OK with me as long as they are not just flakes but that is still kinda OKish I guess. I know though, Pagan and Occult are two words that should not go with each other. But there are 'Christian Pagans' too of a sort and their beliefs are every bit as valid as a path as anyone else's.

Salaam (Peace)

There are indeed some occult groups that have absolutely no intention of ever being anything but hidden, but it is the knowledge that is in occultation, not necessarily the group itself. The Egyptian and Babylonian religions were not originally hidden from public view, nor were the adherents of the Semi Circle of Pythagoras, yet these very beliefs and practices permeate the occult world. It has been repeatedly found that the "secret knowledge and rituals" practiced within these occult orders were once openly practiced in society, their respective priests and priesthoods seen, heard and respected. The knowledge which these sacred texts point towards is obscure by its nature, and needs no additional veiling, nor protection from the so called "profane". Contacting and interacting with the New Age, and Pagan communities is an entirely different experience. Occult Dawah is directed to all things left in obscurity, science and history included.

Thank you Darklight for correcting me. You are right that it is the knowledge and not the group that is occult. I did get confused because when you have esoteric knowledge only initiates are taught it and it is usually kept away from the general public. Even if modern occult uses Egyptian knowledge thought it is not best to equate ancient Egyptians as being occult because while some parts of their religion were other parts were very much a state religion and the knowledge was not hidden at all. We can equate occult though with mystery religions perhaps to get a better idea even though as you said...mystery religions were not always hidden as groups and did come out into the open many times even if the knowledge was hidden.

Salaam (Peace)

You made a valid point Clovis, there is much diversity in what is commonly understood as the "occult world". Another valid point you made is trespassing should be discouraged, I do not recommend trespassing, but whats done is done and stuff. However, I will continue to actively encourage my fellow human beings to shine whatever spectrum of Light they possess, as I believe it is beneficial to everyone.

Harassing people about trespassing and derailing a thread should also be discouraged lol...

But maybe that place needs a sign like this one which can be found in my city.

Yes those who belong to occult groups don't advertise the fact.the knowledge or information they seek or have is not for the average person.,similar to gnostic in the christian faith. some say there are hidden meanings in some of the parables taught by Jesus and in some of his other statements.Information or knowledge meant for the apostles,as close followers,but not readily understood by the average listener.To learn and understand such lessons or teachings, one has to study hard,fast and do other things to reach a certain level of understanding.All religions have such things,even in the catholic Church not every priest is a biblical scholar,just as with the Cathars there were teachings passed from Parfaits to parfaits,but not to the average credentie,or ordinary believer.

Wonder what city that sign,no witches allowed was posted in.Probably the southwest,since that looks like a mesquite tree.
Wonder where the rumors of this place came from.If these stones are located deep in the woods,then possibly it could be used for some sort of ritual.
Tresspassing isn't a good idea,especially in Texas where the landowner might shoot first then ask questions later.

I respectfully disagree. I see no explanation of what the purpose is in contacting these individuals. What relationship are you pursuing? What goal are we pursuing?
From the website you linked, it seems the mission is not one of dialog, but rather conversion. In this case, directed at occult groups rather than Christians.

Salaam (Peace)

The relationship sought in this situation, (as with prior engagements) is to establish an esoteric version of what is very well established in the exoteric world. For example: The "Abraham House" is a Habitat for Humanity home built by the Jewish, Christian, and Muslim communities of East Texas collectively. Through Interfaith Dialogue many social issues are being addressed, such as homelessness, inner city crime, disaster relief, and many others. There are other levels of society where Interfaith activities can have a profound effect, in our opinion. As far as the BNG and the concept of "conversion", no such idea truly exists in Islam. Allah Al Hadi (The Guide) leads one towards conversion, it is our duty but to convey (dawah) the message; and since Islam is called the Deen ul-Fitrah (Religion of Nature) it is truly considered a "reversion" instead of "conversion".

Darklight could you show us where on google maps to find the stones?

And HollyDolly here is the link: http://www.lostdestinations.com/chinese.htm

Looks like a Neo-Celtic circle. The land on which my group meets has many circles, but none like that one. I know we would love to have one like that though. I know if you came poking around on my friend's land you would be eaten by the dogs no doubt. Personally I wouldn't mess around there. Their religion is none of your business.

Although Jesus taught in parables, he had to to make it "easier" to understand to the country men... not harder...

The mustard seed parable is a perfect example... it doesnt get much easier to understand than that....

And absolutly right! No tresspassing means No tresspassing! But as Clovis said... lets, let it go.........

We're going to have to close this on the grounds that it is based on photographs taken while trespassing on someone's property. I've actually had to deal with someone not that long ago who was looking to take legal action against us because some of our members were talking about trespassing on their land to try and take ghost pictures; trespassing is illegal and we don't want to be encouraging it nor associated with it.

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