so im sure pretty much everyone knows by know that the UK is releasing their so called "X-files" regarding UFOs and such to the public.
I saw a report about it on CNN the same day I read about the Vatican acknowledging the possibility of extraterrestrial life and intelligence (possibly even free from original sin, if you are into that sort of thing).

Ive been waiting and watching things for awhile now, and I really think that the powers that be are preparing us for the announcement "that we are not alone and heres proof." or better yet, "meet Bob. Bobs an alien from Omicron Perseii 8." but i digress.

anyway heres a couple links, and please share your thoughts.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/200...e.encounter.cnn

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewnews.php?id=126076

I was thrilled over the Mars asteroid speculation several years ago, thinking, "Is this it? Could this really be proof of life beyond Earth?"

And I was disappointed when the answer was no. But honestly, that doesn't deter me in thinking that it could be true that there's life elsewhere.

But I don't think releasing files like this means anything, really. In other words, they're not doing it in preparation for full disclosure, because there's not that much to disclose. Not like what some think could be disclosed.

The cover only appears to be uncovering, not in the sense that it's uncovering the way we'd like it uncovered out in the open for all to see but more in a sense that it's uncovering only due to the coverage especially mainstream coverage which in reality when bottom lining it at the end of the day...absolutely nothing is really uncovering at all leaving us all wondering if theres actually anything to uncover. I think that would pretty much covers it imo.

oy im dizzy.....

I had someone the other day trying to tell me that it (full disclosure) was tied in with 2012, and the new era begins when we find out we are truly not alone.

I will admit that a disclosure project liek that would have to be done in small stages over a long period of time, but personally dont think anything will happen in Dec. of 2012 other than the calendar turning again.

I dont think there is anything significative in the files being released by uk or any other country in the world who really give some substance to alien visitation speculation, not only that, but this type of ´disclosure´ can be powder in the hands of debunkers, so they can cry loud where is the undeniable evidence that ufos are not from earth. Any material which could confirm the existence of aliens on earth vicinity would still be classified anyway...

For the vatican or scientists to finally came up and accept we are not alone in the universe, they are just complying with today science which is showing that space travel is a real possibility and other life forms in the universe are likely to exist.

These people still need to accept the possibility that aliens may have discovered us before we found them, and the technology necessary to travel from one point to another in the universe is too far ahead ours that we would have a hard time to identify those crafts, they would appear as ghosts in our atmosphere, or ufos...

It is uncovering.

We can go back to the late 1970s where the CIA was taken to court and all of a sudden, all of those UFO files that were hidden from the public, were revealed. A clear example was the 1976 Iranian UFO encounter where the UFO shut down the avionics of both Iranian F-4 Phantoms.

There was the Disclosure Project, the COMETA Report, and last Fall, aviation officials once again, made headlines on what they were revealing and Aerojet engineers have been revealing over recent years that NORAD has been tracking UFOs as they flew into Earth's atmosphere from deep space. Countries are now coming forward and releasing their own UFO files.



So it is just a matter of time before full disclosure is made because we are already on that road to reality. My prediction is: in 15 years or less, the rest of mankind will know what the rest of us already know.

i personally think that they're preparing us for the announcement that the President of the USA for the last 7 years has, in fact, been an extraterrestrial, albeit one who they dumped on us because they didn't have any use for him, in the manner of the Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

How about linking to your source? And maybe putting in the final paragraph of the Chinese pilot story?


http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc445.htm

While I'm not familiar with Chinese newspapers in general, and especially not the Hebei Daily in particular, I might think of that statement in these terms as far as credibility:
"While America's racy tabloids often run stories of strange phenomena alongside celebrity-gossip and crime stories, UFO reports are seldom carried by more official papers like the New York Times." Certainly over the years, the Times and other major papers have run stories on UFOs, so that's not terribly unusual, even if it's par for the course for garbage like the weekly news stand tabloids.

My point is just because an "official" newspaper runs a story about a UFO, even in China (as opposed to the US, unapologetically loud, bombastic and in search of more and more headline-grabbing attention in comparison), doesn't mean the UFO is ET.

But then again,...probebly not.

It seems to be a common theme among 'ufoiphiles' to say 'we are right on the verge of a major UFO event'. I've had a passing interest in UFOs for quite some time (decades) and that theme always seems to come up. It's the proverbial carrot in front of the donkey's nose though. People keep predicting in the 'next few years' or 'very soon'....but it just doesn't happen.

Government disclosure proves nothing other than the government doesn't know what the hell UFO's are either. So, they can release all the documents they want, and all they are are accounts of things none of us understand or can explain.

I forgot his name, but the Attorney from Harvard at that event was Brilliant!




I think something is definitely up, Larry King had another UFO show last night and they talked about the 1-2 punch of the Vatican's statement endorsing alien life happening at the exact same time as this ...



UFO files newly released by Ministry of Defence with The National Archives:

http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

^^^ this will be an ongoing disclosure over the next four years by their government, other countries are expected to follow suit!






Next 5 years or even sooner IMO!

Remember Reagan's infamous off the top UN speech regarding an 'outside threat'...(for the world to 'band as one' etc) When/if i start hearing that type speech come from the Vatican/RCC, I'd be a just a little weary...and i'm not talking about the ETs...

Yea somethings up.

Soon.

Well, if you look at the popularity of the u.f.o. phenomenon in latin countries and consider the percentage of the worldwide catholic population this represents, it was only a matter of time before the Vatican would have to declare an official policy.

The move toward official disclosure has begun.

Over the past few years, we have had the Disclosure Project, the COMETA Report, and pilots and aviation officials llast fall, and now, countries around the globe are beginning to release their own UFO files, the same files that were kept hidden from the public for years and I expect more countries to do the same.

And now, China

____________________________________________________________

Airline Pilots In Close UFO
Encounter Over China

By Simon Parry
CenturyChina.com
11-25-3


Wendelle Stevens, an 80-year-old former US fighter pilot and one of the world's top UFO investigators, says the emergence of China as the epicentre of UFO activity is all the more remarkable considering there were no officially recorded sightings until less than 25 years ago. "UFOs seem to be taking a very close interest in China," Stevens said from his home in Tucson, Arizona. "From 1949 until 1979 the bamboo curtain was in place and no information about what was happening was coming in or out - but that's all changed now."

http://www.rense.com/general45/ecount.htm

Wendelle Stevens, man he's been around since time began. Correct me if i'm wrong here but he's like in some sought of Pleiadian ufo sect(?) now.

ufophotoarchive$.com even have a page dedicated on all his book$

He is a very interesting guy, but he has mentioned what has in fact, been taking place in China as far as UFOs are concerned.

Something has been happening over the past several years in regards to the release of government UFO files and revelations by government officials from countries around the world.

Could it be that the world is now being prepared for the eventuality of ET reality?





Japanese Government Spokesman: UFOs Definitely Real

http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3436



Defense Minister Ishiba Considers Japan's Options in UFO Attack

http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/12/24/defense-minister-ishiba-considers-japans-options-in-ufo-attack/



High Ranking Government Officials, Military Pilots, Generals & Scientists from 7 Countries demands real UFO investigation seen on CNN !

http://www.need2know.eu/?p=518



Former Canadian Defense Minister Speaks Out on Extraterrestrial Visitors & Government Secrecy

http://www.rense.com/general68/eurdo.htm


Now, the former governor of Arizona, Fife Symington, says that UFOs are real. Something definitely is going on around the world!!

Is it true that some of those paliadiean space cadets all put on ked`s tennis shoes and drank arsnic in there Kool-Aid? or was that those crazy calif people? DONTEATUS

I always get a chuckle when I read someone write "Full Disclosure". Does anyone believe they'll release anything that can be related to technology, armament, national security stuff? Nothing but the fact Alien life exists is what's in store from disclosure. No free energy will come out of it, no black budget technologies, nothing to help mankind unless it benefits "them" will ever be disclosed. Aliens exist? Big deal. Give me the full details of what's been going on for the last 50 years or so and freely distribute technologies recovered from encounters, then I'll believe in full disclosure.

The ones called nordics by us are going to reveal themselves. They are the ones who destroyed the gray bug eyed beasts that once controlled this place, and made the beasts rise over the people in ancient times.

They are the shining horde of prophecy.

Wow, this is extremely interesting.
Anyone care to explain this more simply to me?
As some of the posts you lot have made in this thread is quite complex in my opinion..sorry if I sound dumb.

Thanks

I already know as a fact, that the UFOs in question have nothing to do with top secret technology. After all, our weapons systems of the future are still tagged to use conventional propulsion systems and we are still working on how to get rid of the sonic boom, which the UFOs in question have already solved and evident in the radar data.

The Vatican statement makes a bigger impact on me than anything else. I'm a Catholic, and when the Vatican admits something like this (considering this is a very conservative Pontiff), something is up.

I believe my son and I saw a UFO last summer. I tried to explain it off as a satellite or a plane, but it was moving much too fast, and then it split into two more lights before disappearing.

I think this is going to be a very exciting time. I just hope they come in peace.

Sure seems like we are getting flooded with released UFO files, news interviews, revelations from countries and government officials around the globe, pilots, scientist, military officials wanting serious investigations into the UFO enigma, and many other things such as the Disclosure Project, the COMETA Report and the National Press Club last November.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vymLxCgGKM4

HAHAHA i could not agree more. We're not fighting the war in Iraq over oil, they just found out about our plans to turn the middle east into an intergalactic pit stop.

From the lips of the pilot who was involved in the 1976 UFO encounter over Iran. Additionally, several years ago, it has been revealed that NORAD also tracked this incident with one of its DSP satellites.

_______________________________________________________________

PARVIZ JAFARI

My name is Parviz Jafari, and I am a retired General of Iranian Air Force.

At about 11 pm on the evening of 18th September, 1976, citizens were frightened by the circling of an unknown object over Tehran, the Capital city of Iran, at a low altitude. It looked similar to a star, but bigger and brighter.

They reported it to the tower and it was seen by the tower man too. He alerted the Air Force command post and Deputy General Yousefi decided to scramble an F-4 jet to investigate.

The pilot in the first jet lost instrumentation and communications when he got too close to the brilliant object, so he headed back. About 10 minutes later, they scrambled a second jet, which I was piloting. At the time I was Squadron commander.

I approached the object, which was flashing with intense red, green, orange and blue light so bright that I was not able to see its body. The sequence of flashes was extremely fast, like a strobe light.

We locked on it with radar; it was at 30° left, at a range of 25 miles. The size on the radar scope was comparable to that of a 707 tanker.

Four other objects with different shapes separated from the main one, at different times during this close encounter.

Whenever they were close to me, my weapons were jammed and my radio communications were garbled.

One of the objects headed toward me. I thought it was a missile. I tried to launch a heat seeking missile to it, but my missile panel went out. Another followed me when I was descending on the way back.

One of the separated objects landed in an open area radiating a high bright light, in which the sands on the ground were visible.

We could hear emergency squash all the way, which was reported by other airliners flying at the time and continued for another couple of days.

During my interview at H.Q, after the incident, an American colonel took notes, but after it was over I could not find him to talk with.

Later, a once-classified document was released here in America through the Freedom of information Act. The Defense Intelligence Agency documented the event in great detail, and it was sent to NSA, The White House and the CIA. The DIA assessment said "this case is a classic that meets all necessary conditions for a legitimate study of the UFO phenomenon."

I would be happy to answer questions and tell you more.

Thank you.

http://www.freedomofinfo.org/national_pres...i_statement.pdf



And, the documents regarding his incident from the website of the National Security Agency (NSA) that I posted the other day.

http://www.nsa.gov/ufo/ufo00017.pdf

that was heavens gate in 1997 when Hale-Bopp comet made its pass. Im pretty sure they were in california.

what prophecy are we talking about? Revelations?

The pilot seemed very surprised that the US colonel was there, but given what was goin on with the cold war and Iran's proximity to Soviet Russia, the US would have wanted very detailed notes oin what possibly could have been some sort new Soviet technology, which in turn would explain why it was distributed throughout the govt. Still an interesting read tho.

Interesting. ...


... wait, I feel a theory coming on.


Why is the White House so interested in Iran now?

... is it because of nuclear programs and (alleged) shipments of arms to Iraq?

.. or is it because the Iranians have something else.
Something that the White House and the Pentagon would dearly like to get their hands on? ...

[/end of theory.]

hello? can anyone answer me please?!

Followed by "The beings on Bob's planet will work for even less than they do in 3rd world countries. We'll soon be sending jobs offplanet...."

It definitely wasn't Russian. The Russians are not known for such advancement in their aircraft.

When a Soviet pilot defected to the West in a top-of-the-line MiG-25, military examiners were surprised just how primitive the design really was and the engines were such that if the MiG-25 reached mach 3 at all, both engines would have to be replaced before the next flight.

When I saw the first photos of a Russian experimental stealth aircraft, I scratched my head and asked, where is the stealth aircraft??? I was refering to a number of obvious flaws in the design that would have reflected radar signals back to the radar units.

We are on the road to disclosure.

It will be a long one, but government workers and former government workers and many others, are releasing documentation that these objects are real and intelligently controlled.

Engineers of Aerojet, makers of NORAD's DSP satellites, have been revealing that NORAD has been tracking UFOs coming in from deep space and they have admitted that their own DSP satelllites have been tracking the crafts as well, up to 2-3 times per month, and up to 500 times per year using other surveillance methods of NORAD.

I was just offering an alternative to the UFO interest.

I always wondered why the Soviets were able to get into space before us but never did develop great aerospace technology aside form the mig fighters.

What was your question exactly earthling?

have you seen a thrust vectoring Su-27 display? Arguably more useful than any number of clever stealth aircraft that are pretty useless against an enemy that doesn't even have radar.

See above; the Russians have developed some oustanding aerospace technology.

Yes, it have and the Air Force's new F-22 can perform the same manuvers.

The F-22 not only has thrust-vectoring, but is a stealth aircraft as well. Since the SU-27 is not a steatlh aircraft, chances are, it will be taken out by an F-22 before the pilot even knows what happened.

The Russians have taken chances that we would not take to get a man into space, or even to the moon. Not many people were aware that the Soviets lost a lot of people in their space program, including a number of people killed when one of their moon rocket blew up on the launch pad.

Yep, In '80 a Vostok rocket exploded on its launch pad during a fueling operation killing 48 people...

Anyways, just an R.I.P to all the men & women who lost their lives... Aerospaceweb

Sorry, i meant the shining host. Revelations speaks about when the blackeyed beasts awaken, and start to eat the flesh, and drink the blood of real human being's, not the mimicking parady that they themselves are. They are insectile by nature. They are also referred to as the demon horde.

The shining host are our brothers, who had left this world, and have come back to help the survivers they had left behind so long ago at the nonmercy of the beasts. The beasts were geneticly enginered by the gray/insectile/reptillian aliens that had a mention in the bible.

how much does one cost compared with the other, though, i wonder? And more pertinently, how much of an advantage is stealth in an environment like Iraq or Afghanistan, where the enemy don't even have radar? Hopw many F-16s, say, could be bought for the cost of one F-22? Sophistication is all very well, but sometimes I do think the armed forces of the west can be carried away with technology just because they're clever enough to develop it.

... sorry, going off track there .... what were we talking about again?

The F-16 is no match for the F-22 and neither is the F-15 and the F-22 can do other things that does not involve dogfighting.

These days, we have to have a mix of aircraft from high-tech to low-tech to be prepared for any unforseen circumstances that may arise suddenly in the future. I have often said that you don't wait until you have an accident to buy car insurance.